Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Besides Homozon and food grade H2O2, I've noticed a number of oxygen products on the market that mainly come in th form of stabilized liquid oxygen in small plastic bottles (Vitamin O, Aerobic 7, etc.). Are these latters products as usefu/effective as Homozon and Hyrogen Peroxide? Any feedback appreciated. BTW - like others on this list, I am becoming more and more convinced that ozone may be one of the best tools one can use for better health. Colin Yardley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2000 Report Share Posted October 22, 2000 Colin, No, of course they aren't, or we wouldn't need to pay the $$$ needed to purchase a top quality ozone generator, HBOT or ozone sauna. Even Homozon is way beyond any of the other inexpensive products. You can prove this to yourself by comparing them. The day I 1st took a heaping tblsp of Homozon I went to the races with my ex and felt like I could beat the ponies around the track. None of the other stabilized O2 products will do that so dramatically! As for the efficacy of oxidative therapies & ozone in particular.... but of course! Don't misunderstand me -- I believe HBOT is as powerful tool as ozone in most respects. There are some diseases or conditions that contraindicate HBOT, but there are none that come to my mind with an ozone sauna, and would certainly be fewer if they exist. On the other hand, for something like stroke I would want HBOT. The disease one is being treated for has a lot to do with treatment choice, IMO. I don't want to just recover my health, I want to keep it once I do. To hedge my bet on this I want either an ozone sauna or an HBOT (Can I please have both, God?) in my home for the rest of my life. I don't think a single place HBOT can be bought new for under $10,000 And, even if it were that inexpensive, that is still about twice the cost of an ozone sauna. If an HBOT cost $10,000 and you used it 3 times a week for a year it comes to $64 per treatment. If an ozone sauna cost $6000 and you used it 3 times a week for a year it would be $38 per treatment. (I think my cost guess is way low for HBOT & slightly high for the sauna, so there is probably a much bigger disparity) I don't believe basic common sense safety attitudes would allow even a trained person to self-administer HBOT, whereas an intelligent child could safely use an ozone sauna without supervision. These things in no way diminish the value of HBOT. I am not comparing one therapy to another. But, if one decides that purchasing one of them is the cheapest route in the long run, then an ozone sauna is, IMO, the clear choice for home use. But, that doesn't mean I won't go to 's clinic for HBOT as often as I can afford to. ;-) jim Colin Yardley wrote: > > Besides Homozon and food grade H2O2, I've noticed a number of oxygen products on the market that mainly come in th form of stabilized liquid oxygen in small plastic bottles (Vitamin O, Aerobic 7, etc.). Are these latters products as usefu/effective as Homozon and Hyrogen Peroxide? Any feedback appreciated. > BTW - like others on this list, I am becoming more and more convinced that ozone may be one of the best tools one can use for better health. > Colin Yardley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2001 Report Share Posted February 1, 2001 I am sorry I don't remember who wrote this: Besides Homozon and food grade H2O2, I've noticed a number of oxygen products on the market that mainly come in th form of stabilized liquid oxygen in small plastic bottles (Vitamin O, Aerobic 7, etc.). Are these latters products as usefu/effective as Homozon and Hyrogen Peroxide? Any feedback appreciated. But, here is my response. I have used Vit O and topicaly it is amazing. Just shared it with a friend who had a chronic skin rash in the pubic area. The doctor had no answers and so she just suffered with it. Just a few applications of Vit O from R Garden and she said it is completely gone and she is totally amazed. And I, of course, feel brilliant. Smile And, I have used Vit internally and got a little boost, but nothing spectacular, although I have read stories of those who have experienced amazing things on it. I do personally know of a woman who had black lung disease and was not expected to live more than a month. Her parents drove her to my mother's house. My mother went out the the vehicle and gave her a few drops and she immediately started to perk up. She was on an oxygen machine. She started taking Vit O and started thriving immediately. It has been several years now and she is living and doing well and her doctor now regularly recommends Vit O to others. And so, tho I haven't experienced anything that radical from it, I know it is a great product. For topical use I love it. But for internal I prefer homozon. I am new to homozon use and I am only doing 1/4 tsp a day but I love what I am experiencing on low dose. I am not up for any heroic bathroom experiences right now, so I am being cautious. It seems to stay in the system and release oxygen for hours longer than Vit O. And is less expensive. On another note. I joined this group for oxygen info and find it is loaded with too many other non oxygen posts. Is there any other group that anyone knows of that is strictly oxygen/ozone/homozon, that any of you know of? Not complaining, just inquiring. If so please send me a note privately at ruthful@... Thanks, Donna To purchase homozon at $24.00 plus postage contact me at ruthful@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2001 Report Share Posted February 2, 2001 i am still on the search for an oxygen product that works for me. i have tried clo2, hydrogen peroxide , and magnesium peroxide( oxy-gen by rockland), and stabilized oxygen (dr. donsbach). i had best results with oxy-gen, but it doesnt seem to work all the time. i think that too much of these products seems to kill of intestinal flors of whic h i have precious few due to a longstanding yeast fiasco. has anyone found an oxygen supplement that works for sensitive yeast people. i am still too cheap to get hbot even thought hat might be the solution for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2001 Report Share Posted February 2, 2001 Hi Donna, vitamin O is naclO2 +trace minerals.......another product, aerox is also naclO2.....both contain chlorine, but it's with na so supposedly is safe. This product aerox and an even older one aerobic 7 have been around for 50 years and Ed McCabe likes them. The Vit O is just a copy it appears....with trace minerals added. This quote from rgarden is an attempt to distance themselves from these older products, but it sounds like bullshit to me, since vit O does contain chloride, but I 'm no expert, and the truth would be impossibe to determine probably since it is proprietary: " Vitamin O " should not be confused with the Chlorite compounds which are available on the market and which represent an older, now outdated approach to providing oxygen supplementation. These older Chlorite type compounds must first come into contact with the hydrochloric acid in the stomach before oxygen is released by way of a vigorous chemical reaction. What's more, unlike " Vitamin O " which can be placed onto the skin, the older Chlorite type compounds are extremely caustic and can do serious damage to the skin and delicate mucous membranes. Also, " Vitamin O " should not be confused with hydrogen peroxide, a compound which can cause a severe " healing crisis " if not administered properly and with appropriate care, and apparently has a tendency to release potentially harmful free radicals into the system As far as topical use, ozonated olive oil is supposedly unsurpassed. And you can make your own, with a good ozonator for the cost of olive oil. P. Re: Oxygen Products I am sorry I don't remember who wrote this: Besides Homozon and food grade H2O2, I've noticed a number of oxygen products on the market that mainly come in th form of stabilized liquid oxygen in small plastic bottles (Vitamin O, Aerobic 7, etc.). Are these latters products as usefu/effective as Homozon and Hyrogen Peroxide? Any feedback appreciated. But, here is my response. I have used Vit O and topicaly it is amazing. Just shared it with a friend who had a chronic skin rash in the pubic area. The doctor had no answers and so she just suffered with it. Just a few applications of Vit O from R Garden and she said it is completely gone and she is totally amazed. And I, of course, feel brilliant. Smile And, I have used Vit internally and got a little boost, but nothing spectacular, although I have read stories of those who have experienced amazing things on it. I do personally know of a woman who had black lung disease and was not expected to live more than a month. Her parents drove her to my mother's house. My mother went out the the vehicle and gave her a few drops and she immediately started to perk up. She was on an oxygen machine. She started taking Vit O and started thriving immediately. It has been several years now and she is living and doing well and her doctor now regularly recommends Vit O to others. And so, tho I haven't experienced anything that radical from it, I know it is a great product. For topical use I love it. But for internal I prefer homozon. I am new to homozon use and I am only doing 1/4 tsp a day but I love what I am experiencing on low dose. I am not up for any heroic bathroom experiences right now, so I am being cautious. It seems to stay in the system and release oxygen for hours longer than Vit O. And is less expensive. On another note. I joined this group for oxygen info and find it is loaded with too many other non oxygen posts. Is there any other group that anyone knows of that is strictly oxygen/ozone/homozon, that any of you know of? Not complaining, just inquiring. If so please send me a note privately at ruthful@... Thanks, Donna To purchase homozon at $24.00 plus postage contact me at ruthful@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2001 Report Share Posted February 2, 2001 And the problem you're trying to cure, is...??? And, why these do not work for you? What are your reactions? Ronen. Re: Re: Oxygen Products i am still on the search for an oxygen product that works for me. i have tried clo2, hydrogen peroxide , and magnesium peroxide( oxy-gen by rockland), and stabilized oxygen (dr. donsbach). i had best results with oxy-gen, but it doesnt seem to work all the time. i think that too much of these products seems to kill of intestinal flors of whic h i have precious few due to a longstanding yeast fiasco. has anyone found an oxygen supplement that works for sensitive yeast people. i am still too cheap to get hbot even thought hat might be the solution for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2001 Report Share Posted February 2, 2001 I am certainly no expert. As I have stated before. But I think that homozon is supposed to be better than oxy-gen. And oxygen, from what I understand, does not kill good bacteria. Good intestinal flora are aerobic, they like oxygen. Bad intestinal bacteria and parasites and candida are anaerobic, they don't like oxygen. So, if a product is releasing oxygen into your intestines it should help the good guys and beat back the bad guys. On the candida thing. The flora L plantarum specifically targets candida. So, you might want to look for a probiotic with a good amount of that in it. I know of one called Inner Garden Flora by R. Garden, the makers of Vit O. 1800-800-1927 It has worked for friends of mine when all the other candida programs failed. I am sure there must be other ones out there, I just am not personally famiilar with them. Maybe someone on this list is. If you want to chat more about that, you can contact me direct at ruthful@... Hope this helps, Donna Subject: Re: Re: Oxygen Products i am still on the search for an oxygen product that works for me. i have tried clo2, hydrogen peroxide , and magnesium peroxide( oxy-gen by rockland), and stabilized oxygen (dr. donsbach). i had best results with oxy-gen, but it doesnt seem to work all the time. i think that too much of these products seems to kill of intestinal flors of whic h i have precious few due to a longstanding yeast fiasco. has anyone found an oxygen supplement that works for sensitive yeast people. i am still too cheap to get hbot even thought hat might be the solution for me. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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