Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 Dear El, There are a couple of things to consider: 1) Rectal insufflation requires an enema before each one. Funneling does not. Continuous daily enemas are not that great an idea for the bacterial colony we need in place there. 2) Rectal insufflation is hard to do for a long time. Most people cannot do 30 minutes, even at 1/32 l/m. Since ozone effectiveness is a result of CT (Concentration x Time), the time factor is very important. With funneling, it is easy to do 30 minutes every time. 3) Results have been excellent with funneling. Our clients have had spotty results with rectal insufflation, and I believe it is mostly due to #1 above. 4) With funneling there is nothing to throw away after each time. With rectal insufflation, many people do not want to reuse the catheter. 5) With funneling, the ozone is directed to a specific organ. With rectal insufflation, the colon is targeted, with extra effect as the ozone spreads throughout the system in the blood stream. Since the portal vein from the colon goes directly to the liver, that is where most of the ozone that is absorbed will end up. That is great for the liver, but not so good if you want to treat the pancreas, or the kidneys, etc. 6) There are psychological barriers for some people regarding rectal insufflation. There are no such barriers for funneling. 7) In general, we only recommend rectal insufflation for colitis, ileitis, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel, or cancer. This is in recognition of ozone's proximity effect, due to its charge. It will react with whatever it comes into contact with, so it is important that it come into contact with the area requiring treatment. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: Testimonials > How does this funnel over the liver compare to rectal ozone? > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2000 Report Share Posted October 11, 2000 I have an ozone generator. HOw/where would I get this funnel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2000 Report Share Posted October 12, 2000 Dear El, We get them at Safeway. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: Funneling vs. rectal insufflation > I have an ozone generator. HOw/where would I get this funnel? > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2000 Report Share Posted October 12, 2000 Saul, The funnels look like nylon to me. Are nylon products resistant to ozone? jim Saul Pressman wrote: > > Dear El, > > We get them at Safeway. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2000 Report Share Posted October 12, 2000 Dear Jim, I think they are polyethylene. Either way, they are resistant. Not as resistant as glass, but then they don't break if you drop them, and they don't cost $50. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: Funneling vs. rectal insufflation > Saul, > > The funnels look like nylon to me. Are nylon products resistant to > ozone? > > jim > > Saul Pressman wrote: > > > > Dear El, > > > > We get them at Safeway. > > > > Best of Health! > > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2000 Report Share Posted October 12, 2000 Hello Saul, Isn't it important Not to use an aluminum funnel? Many are made from this inexpensive metal. Kenzie Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Jim, > > I think they are polyethylene. Either way, they are resistant. > Not as resistant as glass, but then they don't break if you drop them, and > they don't cost $50. > > > > Re: Funneling vs. rectal insufflation > > > Saul, > > > > The funnels look like nylon to me. Are nylon products resistant to > > ozone? > > > > jim > > > > Saul Pressman wrote: > > > > > > Dear El, > > > > > > We get them at Safeway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2000 Report Share Posted October 13, 2000 Dear Kenzie, Yes, metals are out, especially aluminum. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created them " . - Einstein Re: Funneling vs. rectal insufflation > > > > > Saul, > > > > > > The funnels look like nylon to me. Are nylon products resistant to > > > ozone? > > > > > > jim > > > > > > Saul Pressman wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear El, > > > > > > > > We get them at Safeway. > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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