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Hi Vickie.

I hope all is well with you. I'm not trying to be argumentative but I disagree with your statement about Patty supports just her friends in the group. First off, Patty considers everyone to be a friend and of value as she has posted to that effect on several occasions. Yes, she and I are friends and she has defended my posting of my experience because she believes it was the right thing to do--not out of bias for me. There have been times Patty has not agreed with things I've said and done and has told me so directly. There was a time when I said things on this site that offended others as well as Patty and she did not hesitate to tell me to refrain from using bad language or be moderated.Rules about respect for members apply across the board here--not just to a selective few.Yes, there will be disagreements but we can disagree without it getting ugly.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

LM

Vickie <gracie17db@...> wrote:

Lynda; Like it or not it IS Patty's party so she gets to make the rules. But isnt it much easier to email someone personally than go thru all this crap every month. I too have more drama in my life than I can stand and this just adds to it. It is such a turn off. I'm searching for another site that has less drama and supports everyone in the group not just a few friends.

VickieLynda <coss@...> wrote:

Patty,I am sorry that women cannot understand that any doctor can have a bad day.I am sorry that all women do not see eye to eye and feel that they have to be right.I am sorry that women are ill from implants.I am sorry that this has become a forum for bashing doctors.I am sorry about a lot of things, but not for standing up for what is right.Women should take it off the group if they want to bash someone. That should be a rule, not giving out the name of compassionate wonderful doctors.You have made some mistakes here. I am sure others have seen it. Of course, you will get support because of who you are, but if you do not recognize the mistakes, they will recur.I did not win any argument, and it is too bad. Because right lost. Justice lost. And many women lost because

of that.And that makes me sad.LyndaAt 07:38 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:>A house divided cannot stand...how many times have>women in the breast implant cause failed because of>this one thing?>>I have known for a long time now that you can win the>argument, but totally lose the battle.>>To me, it is all about compassion and understanding.>>You win many arguments, Lynda, but with me, you lost>the battle. That's really sad.>Patty

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Excuse me???? I did not say that. You need to re-read my post. I told Lynda that this is Patty's group and she gets to make the rules. We may not like it but we have to deal with it. I dont know how you got from that to my saying anything about Patty only supporting friends... Make sure you totally understand something before you respond. And why are we still talking about this. What are we five???? Lets move on to something product.

VickieJane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> wrote:

Hi Vickie.

I hope all is well with you. I'm not trying to be argumentative but I disagree with your statement about Patty supports just her friends in the group. First off, Patty considers everyone to be a friend and of value as she has posted to that effect on several occasions. Yes, she and I are friends and she has defended my posting of my experience because she believes it was the right thing to do--not out of bias for me. There have been times Patty has not agreed with things I've said and done and has told me so directly. There was a time when I said things on this site that offended others as well as Patty and she did not hesitate to tell me to refrain from using bad language or be moderated.Rules about respect for members apply across the board here--not just to a selective few.Yes, there will be disagreements but we can disagree without it getting ugly.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

LM

Vickie <gracie17db@...> wrote:

Lynda; Like it or not it IS Patty's party so she gets to make the rules. But isnt it much easier to email someone personally than go thru all this crap every month. I too have more drama in my life than I can stand and this just adds to it. It is such a turn off. I'm searching for another site that has less drama and supports everyone in the group not just a few friends.

VickieLynda <coss@...> wrote:

Patty,I am sorry that women cannot understand that any doctor can have a bad day.I am sorry that all women do not see eye to eye and feel that they have to be right.I am sorry that women are ill from implants.I am sorry that this has become a forum for bashing doctors.I am sorry about a lot of things, but not for standing up for what is right.Women should take it off the group if they want to bash someone. That should be a rule, not giving out the name of compassionate wonderful doctors.You have made some mistakes here. I am sure others have seen it. Of course, you will get support because of who you are, but if you do not recognize the mistakes, they will recur.I did not win any argument, and it is too bad. Because right lost. Justice lost. And many women lost because

of that.And that makes me sad.LyndaAt 07:38 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:>A house divided cannot stand...how many times have>women in the breast implant cause failed because of>this one thing?>>I have known for a long time now that you can win the>argument, but totally lose the battle.>>To me, it is all about compassion and understanding.>>You win many arguments, Lynda, but with me, you lost>the battle. That's really sad.>Patty

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Yes, please, something productive.

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At 09:18 AM 6/18/2004, you wrote:

>Excuse me???? I did not say that. You need to re-read my post. I told

>Lynda that this is Patty's group and she gets to make the rules. We may

>not like it but we have to deal with it. I dont know how you got from

>that to my saying anything about Patty only supporting friends... Make

>sure you totally understand something before you respond. And why are we

>still talking about this. What are we five???? Lets move on to something

>product.

>Vickie

>

>Jane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> wrote:

>Hi Vickie.

>I hope all is well with you. I'm not trying to be argumentative but I

>disagree with your statement about Patty supports just her friends in the

>group. First off, Patty considers everyone to be a friend and of value as

>she has posted to that effect on several occasions. Yes, she and I are

>friends and she has defended my posting of my experience because she

>believes it was the right thing to do--not out of bias for me. There have

>been times Patty has not agreed with things I've said and done and has

>told me so directly. There was a time when I said things on this site that

>offended others as well as Patty and she did not hesitate to tell me to

>refrain from using bad language or be moderated.Rules about respect for

>members apply across the board here--not just to a selective few.Yes,

>there will be disagreements but we can disagree without it getting ugly.

>

>That's my 2 cents anyway.

>LM

>

>

>

>Vickie <gracie17db@...> wrote:

>Lynda; Like it or not it IS Patty's party so she gets to make the

>rules. But isnt it much easier to email someone personally than go thru

>all this crap every month. I too have more drama in my life than I can

>stand and this just adds to it. It is such a turn off. I'm searching for

>another site that has less drama and supports everyone in the group not

>just a few friends.

>Vickie

>

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>Patty,

>

>I am sorry that women cannot understand that any doctor can have a bad day.

>

>I am sorry that all women do not see eye to eye and feel that they have to

>be right.

>

>I am sorry that women are ill from implants.

>

>I am sorry that this has become a forum for bashing doctors.

>

>I am sorry about a lot of things, but not for standing up for what is right.

>

>Women should take it off the group if they want to bash someone. That

>should be a rule, not giving out the name of compassionate wonderful doctors.

>

>You have made some mistakes here. I am sure others have seen it. Of

>course, you will get support because of who you are, but if you do not

>recognize the mistakes, they will recur.

>

>I did not win any argument, and it is too bad. Because right lost. Justice

>lost. And many women lost because of that.

>

>And that makes me sad.

>

>Lynda

>

>

>At 07:38 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:

> >A house divided cannot stand...how many times have

> >women in the breast implant cause failed because of

> >this one thing?

> >

> >I have known for a long time now that you can win the

> >argument, but totally lose the battle.

> >

> >To me, it is all about compassion and understanding.

> >

> >You win many arguments, Lynda, but with me, you lost

> >the battle. That's really sad.

> >Patty

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Vickie:

If you didn't want a reply to your post, simply don't post it. It's that simple.

A lesson in English communication:

All in the same paragraph, the very first sentence----you stated Patty's name (Patty's party), stated this site has drama(negative) and CLEARLY stated finding a site that "supports everyone in the group not just a few friends." No other names were mentioned here, therefore the subject (Patty) is the implied subject in your following sentences (being in the same paragraph and topic). If there were another individual(s) you were referring to, you should have stated that. I'm reading your grammar not your mind--that's all I you gave me to work with here.Now if you did not mean that Patty was favorable to only support a few individuals here, that's fine--I take you at your word and I'm glad to hear that, however, I would appreciate it if you did not direct such rudeness in my direction next time.I will also try not to be rude to you as well, OK? Thank you.

Have a nice weekend and take care.

LMVickie <gracie17db@...> wrote:

Excuse me???? I did not say that. You need to re-read my post. I told Lynda that this is Patty's group and she gets to make the rules. We may not like it but we have to deal with it. I dont know how you got from that to my saying anything about Patty only supporting friends... Make sure you totally understand something before you respond. And why are we still talking about this. What are we five???? Lets move on to something product.

VickieJane Doe <oceanlilly_csu@...> wrote:

Hi Vickie.

I hope all is well with you. I'm not trying to be argumentative but I disagree with your statement about Patty supports just her friends in the group. First off, Patty considers everyone to be a friend and of value as she has posted to that effect on several occasions. Yes, she and I are friends and she has defended my posting of my experience because she believes it was the right thing to do--not out of bias for me. There have been times Patty has not agreed with things I've said and done and has told me so directly. There was a time when I said things on this site that offended others as well as Patty and she did not hesitate to tell me to refrain from using bad language or be moderated.Rules about respect for members apply across the board here--not just to a selective few.Yes, there will be disagreements but we can disagree without it getting ugly.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

LM

Vickie <gracie17db@...> wrote:

Lynda; Like it or not it IS Patty's party so she gets to make the rules. But isnt it much easier to email someone personally than go thru all this crap every month. I too have more drama in my life than I can stand and this just adds to it. It is such a turn off. I'm searching for another site that has less drama and supports everyone in the group not just a few friends.

VickieLynda <coss@...> wrote:

Patty,I am sorry that women cannot understand that any doctor can have a bad day.I am sorry that all women do not see eye to eye and feel that they have to be right.I am sorry that women are ill from implants.I am sorry that this has become a forum for bashing doctors.I am sorry about a lot of things, but not for standing up for what is right.Women should take it off the group if they want to bash someone. That should be a rule, not giving out the name of compassionate wonderful doctors.You have made some mistakes here. I am sure others have seen it. Of course, you will get support because of who you are, but if you do not recognize the mistakes, they will recur.I did not win any argument, and it is too bad. Because right lost. Justice lost. And many women lost because

of that.And that makes me sad.LyndaAt 07:38 PM 6/16/2004, you wrote:>A house divided cannot stand...how many times have>women in the breast implant cause failed because of>this one thing?>>I have known for a long time now that you can win the>argument, but totally lose the battle.>>To me, it is all about compassion and understanding.>>You win many arguments, Lynda, but with me, you lost>the battle. That's really sad.>Patty

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