Re: Linen spray won't emulsify

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/20/01 8:25:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

hscholes1@... writes:

> You really need an emulsifier, like Polysorbate if you

> want them to blend.

>

>

Would the everclear be that Polysorbate, so you don't have to shake it each

time. I'm having trouble with this too. I'm not off the top of my head

knowing what a polysorbate is.

Pamela

[Guest guest]

You really need an emulsifier, like Polysorbate if you

want them to blend.

If you don't mind shaking it before every use, you can try

mixing the eos with a little glycerin, then add the alcohol

and finally the water.

HTH

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lonie Mc " <lonie@...>

> I'm trying to make a linen spray and it won't emulsify. I'm

> using ethyl alcohol (70%) which I picked up at a drug

> store, essential oils and water. Right now, I'm letting

> the eos sit in the alcohol before I add the water and

> they still are not mixing in.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

Polysorbate is a chemical that you can buy. It works to mix the water and

the oils together into a stable mix. The It used to be made from Ash

Laurel, but it is synthetic these days. You can get either Polysorbate 20,

60 or 80. The higher numbers are for more water in your solution. For

instance the 20 would be good for a lotion. Everclear is a liquid so think

of it as water in this case. With your solution being mostly water, you

would want the 80. You mix equal amounts of your oils and the Polysorbate,

then add the water (or alcohol and then water). It may be a little cloudy at

first, but it will go back to being clear after a while.

HTH

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: <frugalmomof4@...>

> Would the everclear be that Polysorbate, so you don't have to shake it

each

> time. I'm having trouble with this too. I'm not off the top of my head

> knowing what a polysorbate is.

[Guest guest]

I thought the alcohol was supposed to be an emulsifier. Why use it when

it doesn't emulsify?

smiles, Lonie

Re: Linen spray won't emulsify

You really need an emulsifier, like Polysorbate if you

want them to blend.

If you don't mind shaking it before every use, you can try

mixing the eos with a little glycerin, then add the alcohol

and finally the water.

HTH

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lonie Mc " <lonie@...>

> I'm trying to make a linen spray and it won't emulsify. I'm

> using ethyl alcohol (70%) which I picked up at a drug

> store, essential oils and water. Right now, I'm letting

> the eos sit in the alcohol before I add the water and

> they still are not mixing in.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

Alcohol mixes with water, but not with oil, so how could it act

as an emulsifier?

The alcohol is to help the spray evaporate in the air.

You don't really need it in a linen spray. But if you want your

spray to stay blended together you have to add something to mix

them together in the first place.

If you are using a light oil like Lavender, you can probably get away

with just using vegetable glycerin. But it's not the greatest emulsifier

and it doesn't do anything for the heavier oils

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: " Lonie Mc " <lonie@...>

> I thought the alcohol was supposed to be an emulsifier. Why use it when

> it doesn't emulsify?

>

[Guest guest]

I just ordered some from Somerset, I will see if I can rustle up the URL.

In the meantime if you do a search for Polysorbate 80, lots of places come

up.

I chose one close to home.

HTH

Heidi

----- Original Message -----

From: <ktbons@...>

> Heidi - Do you know where to get Polysorbate 80?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

Well I wouldn't want to be responsible for you overspending so here you are

http://www.makingcosmetics.com/

Like you aren't going to overspend at this place!!! Bwa-ha-ha-ha <evil

laugh>

I had to keep slapping my mouse hand, it wanted to click on everything. I

want

to make make-up, now, even though I hardly ever wear it myself!! LOL

Heidi

RE: Linen spray won't emulsify

> Heidi,

>

> I guess I just get lazy - all search engines are not the same and I find

some work on some items and some on others - so I just ask for URLs because

I get side tracked and end up buying stuff I don't NEED. You know -

Obsessive Shopper. Can't have money sitting in my account - oh no.

>

> Anyway - I will do a search - so don't bother - BUT, if I find something

else that I end up buying you are going to get the bill - LOL

>

[Guest guest]

You did better than me, I think you owe me one of those bottles!!!

Only kidding.

Heidi

RE: Linen spray won't emulsify

> Hey - look at my invoice....

>

> buy 1 , get 2 free=3 total 005051 Polysorbate 80 $ 11.95 $ 11.95

>

> Grand Total $ 16.31

>

> http://puritan.com/scriptsp/start.exe/puritan/mainnew.html

>

> Heidi - searching worked out great - 3 bottles!!!!

>

> Take Care,

>

>

>

>

> Bons

> http://www.isosoapa.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lonie:

Sorry I didn't get to this earlier...don't throw away your old blends! You

can salvage them by adding a small amount (about an ounce or so per 8 oz.

product) of 190-proof grain or ethyl alcohol and shake until it clarifies.

If it doesn't clear on the first try, add a bit more and shake again.

You have to remember that 70 per-cent alcohol is still 30 per-cent water.

Adding more water to this is risking clouding and separation.

I recommend using 190 proof (which is 95%) grain or 39C denatured alcohol,

dissolving the oils in this and slowly adding distilled water to that. (up

to an equal amount...stop if it starts to cloud).

From what I understand (I have never used it myself), using polysorbate 20

will result in an emulsified, but cloudy mixture. You can package the spray

in opaque containers otherwise.

Cat

> I'm trying to make a linen spray and it won't emulsify. I'm

> using ethyl alcohol (70%) which I picked up at a drug

> store, essential oils and water. Right now, I'm letting

> the eos sit in the alcohol before I add the water and

> they still are not mixing in.

[Guest guest]

Heidi - Do you know where to get Polysorbate 80?

Thanks,

> ** Original Subject: RE: Linen spray won't emulsify

> ** Original Sender: " Heidi Scholes " <hscholes1@...>

> ** Original Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 13:02:39 -0400 (EDT)

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Polysorbate is a chemical that you can buy. It works to mix the water and

> the oils together into a stable mix. The It used to be made from Ash

> Laurel, but it is synthetic these days. You can get either Polysorbate 20,

> 60 or 80. The higher numbers are for more water in your solution. For

> instance the 20 would be good for a lotion. Everclear is a liquid so think

> of it as water in this case. With your solution being mostly water, you

> would want the 80. You mix equal amounts of your oils and the Polysorbate,

> then add the water (or alcohol and then water). It may be a little cloudy at

> first, but it will go back to being clear after a while.

>

> HTH

> Heidi

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <frugalmomof4@...>

> > Would the everclear be that Polysorbate, so you don't have to shake it

> each

> > time. I'm having trouble with this too. I'm not off the top of my head

> > knowing what a polysorbate is.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

I guess I just get lazy - all search engines are not the same and I find some

work on some items and some on others - so I just ask for URLs because I get

side tracked and end up buying stuff I don't NEED. You know - Obsessive

Shopper. Can't have money sitting in my account - oh no.

Anyway - I will do a search - so don't bother - BUT, if I find something else

that I end up buying you are going to get the bill - LOL

Thanks!

Take Care,

Bons

http://www.isosoapa.com

[Guest guest]

Hey - look at my invoice....

buy 1 , get 2 free=3 total 005051 Polysorbate 80 $ 11.95 $ 11.95

Grand Total $ 16.31

http://puritan.com/scriptsp/start.exe/puritan/mainnew.html

Heidi - searching worked out great - 3 bottles!!!!

Take Care,

Bons

http://www.isosoapa.com

[Guest guest]

Oh Darn - This is a fun site! Thanks Heidi - I think I will be using my card

here too - but will keep the bill for myself since you've been so sweet.

By the way - I LOVE MAKEUP - don't fully open my eyes without it - blonde lashes

- so I need some mascara just to look alive.

Take Care,

Bons

http://www.isosoapa.com

[Guest guest]

I'm told they have this sale EVERY September - so next time you know where to

go.

Take care - Thanks for your help - Oh, not giving away any bottles - sorry

Bons

http://www.isosoapa.com