Natural cleaners?

February 9, 2006

Hi folks, Also, have you all found cleaners that work for disinfecting? Right

now I'm sometimes using a hand soap that I kinda tolerate, or Dawn

dishwashing cleaner.(It bothers me but gotta have something.) Sometimes I wipe

with

alcohol which doesn't seem to bother me too much. I also use the white vinegar.

Husband does most of the real cleaning since I can't tolerate the smell, then I

have to avoide the area after and run the air cleaners and open the windows. I

still suffer.

So problem is still disinfecting. Toilets and shower. I had a mildew problem

in the shower and what it took to take care of it means that I have to avoid

the shower after. I still have a small mildew problem there on one tile that

is resistant. Any thoughts on that? Oh, also will use chlorine but that is a

problem. Ever notice that when you rewet chlorine the smell reactivates?

For laundry, I really am doing much better with Sun FREE liquid. I do 3

rinses on most of my washes.

So any products to recommend that will disinfect but still be tolerable?

Thanks!

ARounce@...

February 9, 2006

Peroxide has been mentioned before here, and as a restorer I use it

allot and have no reaction to it - buying the strong- 40 vol stuff

at a beauty supply house- it would be affordable to-use as a cleaner-

especially if you get them to order it for you in a case- Sally

used to do it for me before they closed their store here- now I buy

technical grade on the internet. 40 Vol peroxide will burn you- so

you have to be carefull and dilute it for most purposes- but it has

no order like chlorine, and bleaches as well as disinfects.Great in

the laundry and does not hurt the septic tank

-- In , arounce@... wrote:

>

> Hi folks, Also, have you all found cleaners that work for

disinfecting? Right

> now I'm sometimes using a hand soap that I kinda tolerate, or Dawn

> dishwashing cleaner.(It bothers me but gotta have something.)

Sometimes I wipe with

> alcohol which doesn't seem to bother me too much. I also use the

white vinegar.

> Husband does most of the real cleaning since I can't tolerate the

smell, then I

> have to avoide the area after and run the air cleaners and open

the windows. I

> still suffer.

>

> So problem is still disinfecting. Toilets and shower. I had a

mildew problem

> in the shower and what it took to take care of it means that I

have to avoid

> the shower after. I still have a small mildew problem there on

one tile that

> is resistant. Any thoughts on that? Oh, also will use chlorine but

that is a

> problem. Ever notice that when you rewet chlorine the smell

reactivates?

>

> For laundry, I really am doing much better with Sun FREE liquid. I

do 3

> rinses on most of my washes.

>

> So any products to recommend that will disinfect but still be

tolerable?

> Thanks!

> ARounce@...

>

February 9, 2006

Any kind of soap should disinfect the usual suspects. Most people tolerate the

brands

from the coop that are unscented, like Seventh generation brand, for dishwashers

and dish

detergent, toilet bowl cleaner, laundry detergent, etc.

I use quite a bit of vinegar, also borax. Another soap I use is the liquid Dr

bronner's, which

some people can't use due to the smell, although they have an unscented version

too.

I put a T of borax in my dusting water, since it kills all kinds of bugs, and

dust mites. I wet

dust and mop most everything I can, since it easier on me.

If you really want to kill bad germs, use the rubbing alchohol in a spray

bottle, and put on

a mask while you spray it.

As far as the mildew in the shower, I had that, and it was cause by the tile

being glued

over sheet rock, which was INCREDIBLY moldy. No amount of bleach can get rid of

something like that, as you have a reservoir inside the wall, and it off gasses

out of the

pores in the grout, then it started growing on the shower curtain and walls,

etc. You can

check this by popping a tile off near the tub, and looking to see what is behind

it.

We had to tear out the shower and re-do everything, but in the summer. So we

wouldn't

get as sick from stirring it all up.

Good luck,

>

> Hi folks, Also, have you all found cleaners that work for disinfecting? Right

> now I'm sometimes using a hand soap that I kinda tolerate, or Dawn

> dishwashing cleaner.(It bothers me but gotta have something.) Sometimes I wipe

with

> alcohol which doesn't seem to bother me too much. I also use the white

vinegar.

> Husband does most of the real cleaning since I can't tolerate the smell, then

I

> have to avoide the area after and run the air cleaners and open the windows. I

> still suffer.

>

> So problem is still disinfecting. Toilets and shower. I had a mildew problem

> in the shower and what it took to take care of it means that I have to avoid

> the shower after. I still have a small mildew problem there on one tile that

> is resistant. Any thoughts on that? Oh, also will use chlorine but that is a

> problem. Ever notice that when you rewet chlorine the smell reactivates?

>

> For laundry, I really am doing much better with Sun FREE liquid. I do 3

> rinses on most of my washes.

>

> So any products to recommend that will disinfect but still be tolerable?

> Thanks!

> ARounce@...

February 10, 2006

Great advice , I have found and read the same to work well. I was also

told to use a little viniger in last cycle of wash. seems to work well. Wish I

could find such good stuff to work in my body lol....

Chris

kl_clayton <kl_clayton@...> wrote:

Any kind of soap should disinfect the usual suspects. Most people tolerate the

brands

from the coop that are unscented, like Seventh generation brand, for dishwashers

and dish

detergent, toilet bowl cleaner, laundry detergent, etc.

I use quite a bit of vinegar, also borax. Another soap I use is the liquid Dr

bronner's, which

some people can't use due to the smell, although they have an unscented version

too.

I put a T of borax in my dusting water, since it kills all kinds of bugs, and

dust mites. I wet

dust and mop most everything I can, since it easier on me.

If you really want to kill bad germs, use the rubbing alchohol in a spray

bottle, and put on

a mask while you spray it.

As far as the mildew in the shower, I had that, and it was cause by the tile

being glued

over sheet rock, which was INCREDIBLY moldy. No amount of bleach can get rid of

something like that, as you have a reservoir inside the wall, and it off gasses

out of the

pores in the grout, then it started growing on the shower curtain and walls,

etc. You can

check this by popping a tile off near the tub, and looking to see what is behind

it.

We had to tear out the shower and re-do everything, but in the summer. So we

wouldn't

get as sick from stirring it all up.

Good luck,

>

> Hi folks, Also, have you all found cleaners that work for disinfecting? Right

> now I'm sometimes using a hand soap that I kinda tolerate, or Dawn

> dishwashing cleaner.(It bothers me but gotta have something.) Sometimes I wipe

with

> alcohol which doesn't seem to bother me too much. I also use the white

vinegar.

> Husband does most of the real cleaning since I can't tolerate the smell, then

I

> have to avoide the area after and run the air cleaners and open the windows. I

> still suffer.

>

> So problem is still disinfecting. Toilets and shower. I had a mildew problem

> in the shower and what it took to take care of it means that I have to avoid

> the shower after. I still have a small mildew problem there on one tile that

> is resistant. Any thoughts on that? Oh, also will use chlorine but that is a

> problem. Ever notice that when you rewet chlorine the smell reactivates?

>

> For laundry, I really am doing much better with Sun FREE liquid. I do 3

> rinses on most of my washes.

>

> So any products to recommend that will disinfect but still be tolerable?

> Thanks!

> ARounce@...

FAIR USE NOTICE:

February 8, 2010

>

> I read up on natural cleaners on Bee's site and the other links that were

provided.

>

> Would anyone who uses these cleaning sources to share your experiences or

little quirks I should be aware of, or other natural ideas.

>

> We have quite a bit of black mold that forms easily on damp surfaces in my

bathroom, such as under faucets, shower heads, shower curtains, shower doors,

and along floor by tub/shower. What is the quickest spray I can make to kill

and keep this at bay? I don't often feel well enough to scrub or have someone

else to do it.

+++Hi . Baking soda mixed in water kills molds the best. I don't know

the amounts to use at the moment but you can look it up.

> Has anyone used vinegar for laundry and for fabric softener? Has any of your

clothing been ruined by it?

+++I've put vinegar in the wash water and it doesn't harm my clothes at all, but

that was when I wanted to set dark colors better. I haven't tried it as a

fabric softener. I use unscented fabric softener sheets.

>

> Also, can anyone recommend a natural strong-hold hairspray and antiperspirant

and deodorant for my husband to use ? The ones he uses knock me out, and he

hasn't liked any of the brands (I don't remember what they were) that I have

purchased for him.

+++I don't know of any hairsprays, but he should only use a natural deodorant

that doesn't contain chemicals like aluminum. I buy mine at the health store

which are free of aluminum, parabens, and glycols. If a person needs a strong

deodorant that is because of toxins and poor health.

>

> 2 other questions:

>

> Has anyone tried air purifiers for mold removal in the air? Any success that

you notice with any of the products?

+++I think they would help since the spores are airborne.

>

> One of my therapists recommended to me to use magnet or some small things, I

can't remember what they are called to put on my computer, tv, cell phones, etc.

to block electromagnetic fields. I came across a site a week ago that sold some

for a laptop, which I use daily, and now I can't find it. Does anyone believe

these devices really work and if so, where I can purchase them?

+++Those devices can't help since we cannot avoid electromagnetics in todays

world, and microwaves are the worst. Our moderator, Zack, is an electrical

engineer and he wrote about EMF Protection in Message #78126, September 9, 2009,

so check it out.

All the best, Bee

February 8, 2010

,

I use vinegar in every load of laundry. I put it in the dispenser for fabric

softener. I haven't used fabric softener of any kind for about 5 years. Your

clothes will not be as soft feeling as with a fabric softener (especially the

liquid type), but it helps it you realize that the liquid fabric softeners are

just coating your fabrics and the fabric softener sheets are releasing

chemicals. Makes it easy to accept a little less softness.

I make my own liquid laundry detergent. It's easy and so inexpensive. Get a

bar of soap (such as fels napha or a hand made soap - but not gycerine soap).

Grate about 1/3 bar. Put it in a a sauce pan with 6 cups of hot water. Heat

until soap dissolves. Add 1/2 cup washing soda and 1/2 cup borax powder and

stir until dissolved. Remove from heat. Pour into bucket and add 4 cups of hot

water and stir to mix. Now add 1 gallon plus 6 cups of water and stir. Let sit

24 hours and it will gel slightly (mine never does). Use 1/2 cup per load. I

also add some essential oils (such as tea tree, lavender, rosemary, eucalytus...

for their anti microbial effects to cut down on mold in the washing machine. I

saved some liquid detergent containers and store it in that. Makes it easy to

dispense. In my opinion it works as well as any earth friendly detergent I have

bought.

I do all my housecleaning using white vinegar and also use orange oil diluted in

water if I have something really greasy. I have them in spray bottles. Vinegar

does a great job of cutting soap scum so it's perfect for the shower or sink. I

use Bon Ami if I need scouring action.

I wash my floors with hot water, 1 cup white vinegar and 1 tsp orange oil. It

works great and you can toss the water out on your lawn or flower beds. The

orange oil also adds a nice aroma.

Makes me feel better as I am washing the floor.

Vinegar and baking soda make a great toilet bowl cleaner and drain cleaner. For

toilet, pour 1/4 cup baking soda and 1 cup vinegar into bowl. Let foam and sit

for a few minutes and then scrub with brush. For drains, pour 1/2 baking soda

down the drain and then pour 1/2 vinegar down the drain. Let sit 15 minutes

then rinse with very hot water. Be careful with the heat of the water if you

have plastic drains. If the drain is badly clogged, it make take several

applications to clear it, but it has always worked for me.

I have never been satisfied with any of the natural deoderants I have bought in

the store. Recently I started using apple cider vinegar. I keep a small jar of

it in the bathroom and dip a cotton ball into it. I squeeze out the excess and

use the cotton ball to apply to my arm pits. It's amazing - no more body odor!!

Now, if you have just shaved, it could sting a little, but not bad and by the

next day, no sting. I don't even have to do this everyday. The benefits seem

to last. I have also heard of using coconut oil in the same manner and folks

say it works great.

Hope this helps...

Ann

> >

> > I read up on natural cleaners on Bee's site and the other links that were

provided.

> >

> > Would anyone who uses these cleaning sources to share your experiences or

little quirks I should be aware of, or other natural ideas.

> >

> > We have quite a bit of black mold that forms easily on damp surfaces in my

bathroom, such as under faucets, shower heads, shower curtains, shower doors,

and along floor by tub/shower. What is the quickest spray I can make to kill

and keep this at bay? I don't often feel well enough to scrub or have someone

else to do it.

>

> +++Hi . Baking soda mixed in water kills molds the best. I don't know

the amounts to use at the moment but you can look it up.

>

> > Has anyone used vinegar for laundry and for fabric softener? Has any of

your clothing been ruined by it?

>

> +++I've put vinegar in the wash water and it doesn't harm my clothes at all,

but that was when I wanted to set dark colors better. I haven't tried it as a

fabric softener. I use unscented fabric softener sheets.

> >

> > Also, can anyone recommend a natural strong-hold hairspray and

antiperspirant and deodorant for my husband to use ? The ones he uses knock me

out, and he hasn't liked any of the brands (I don't remember what they were)

that I have purchased for him.

>

> +++I don't know of any hairsprays, but he should only use a natural deodorant

that doesn't contain chemicals like aluminum. I buy mine at the health store

which are free of aluminum, parabens, and glycols. If a person needs a strong

deodorant that is because of toxins and poor health.

> >

> > 2 other questions:

> >

> > Has anyone tried air purifiers for mold removal in the air? Any success

that you notice with any of the products?

>

> +++I think they would help since the spores are airborne.

> >

> > One of my therapists recommended to me to use magnet or some small things, I

can't remember what they are called to put on my computer, tv, cell phones, etc.

to block electromagnetic fields. I came across a site a week ago that sold some

for a laptop, which I use daily, and now I can't find it. Does anyone believe

these devices really work and if so, where I can purchase them?

>

> +++Those devices can't help since we cannot avoid electromagnetics in todays

world, and microwaves are the worst. Our moderator, Zack, is an electrical

engineer and he wrote about EMF Protection in Message #78126, September 9, 2009,

so check it out.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

February 8, 2010

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Hi , I tried cleaning my floors with a mixture of 50/50 water and vinegar

solution. I found that it worked best for me to use straight up vinegar for my

floors. Without diluting it.Â I also keep a squirt bottle filled with vinegar

with a few drops of essential oil added to it and spray that around the house

throughout the day.

IÂ use vinegar to wash my clothes. A couple of splashes of it once the washer

is filled with water is all that I use. It takes odors away, doesn't alter the

color of the clothes in any way, and it leaves my clothes soft.

I have a vinyl shower curtain that can get moldy at times. I just throw it in

the washer with the microfiber towels that I use to clean the floor. Splash some

vinegar in the wash and voila. It works well.

You might want to experiment, but these have worked well for me.

kelly

Â

February 8, 2010

Bee,

I am surprised to hear that you use fabric softener sheets, since they are

still toxic. Unless there is a kind that is not toxic...

As far as deodorant, I have been using baking soda made into a paste and

applied manually to my underarms. This is the only thing that I can tolerate

since having ongoing rash under my arms for several months now. Also, I

haven't been shaving, so the hairs help hold onto the paste.

If I am not going anywhere, I don't apply anything and just let my underarms

go natural. Amd when the rash is irritated, I wipe hydrogen peroxide onto

it with a cotton ball, which seems to soothe it.

Deb

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > I read up on natural cleaners on Bee's site and the other links that were

> provided.

> >

> > Would anyone who uses these cleaning sources to share your experiences or

> little quirks I should be aware of, or other natural ideas.

> >

> > We have quite a bit of black mold that forms easily on damp surfaces in

> my bathroom, such as under faucets, shower heads, shower curtains, shower

> doors, and along floor by tub/shower. What is the quickest spray I can make

> to kill and keep this at bay? I don't often feel well enough to scrub or

> have someone else to do it.

>

> +++Hi . Baking soda mixed in water kills molds the best. I don't

> know the amounts to use at the moment but you can look it up.

>

> > Has anyone used vinegar for laundry and for fabric softener? Has any of

> your clothing been ruined by it?

>

> +++I've put vinegar in the wash water and it doesn't harm my clothes at

> all, but that was when I wanted to set dark colors better. I haven't tried

> it as a fabric softener. I use unscented fabric softener sheets.

>

> >

> > Also, can anyone recommend a natural strong-hold hairspray and

> antiperspirant and deodorant for my husband to use ? The ones he uses knock

> me out, and he hasn't liked any of the brands (I don't remember what they

> were) that I have purchased for him.

>

> +++I don't know of any hairsprays, but he should only use a natural

> deodorant that doesn't contain chemicals like aluminum. I buy mine at the

> health store which are free of aluminum, parabens, and glycols. If a person

> needs a strong deodorant that is because of toxins and poor health.

>

> >

> > 2 other questions:

> >

> > Has anyone tried air purifiers for mold removal in the air? Any success

> that you notice with any of the products?

>

> +++I think they would help since the spores are airborne.

>

> >

> > One of my therapists recommended to me to use magnet or some small

> things, I can't remember what they are called to put on my computer, tv,

> cell phones, etc. to block electromagnetic fields. I came across a site a

> week ago that sold some for a laptop, which I use daily, and now I can't

> find it. Does anyone believe these devices really work and if so, where I

> can purchase them?

>

> +++Those devices can't help since we cannot avoid electromagnetics in

> todays world, and microwaves are the worst. Our moderator, Zack, is an

> electrical engineer and he wrote about EMF Protection in Message #78126,

> September 9, 2009, so check it out.

>

> All the best, Bee

>

February 8, 2010

I like Herbal Magic Roll-on deoderant herbal scent. It's very effective and

smells manly yet natural. I haven't tried the other scents.

-

February 8, 2010

Hi,

I use Dr. Bronner's Sal Suds, which is a lot like that homemade mentioned. With

the addition of white vinegar , borax, and washing soda(for dishes), it can be

used for bathrooms, clothing, dishes, and floors. Vitacost has it by the gallon.

It is concentrated. I have used coconut oil for a deodorant, but mostly one of

those natural crystals.

C.

http://www.iherb.com/Dr-Bronner-s-Magic-Soaps-Sal-Suds-32-fl-oz-944-ml/15876?at=\

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> ,

> I make my own liquid laundry detergent. It's easy and so inexpensive. Get a