Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 I've begun to branch out from all natural soap. I've made some great, easy balm, lotion, body mist, & insect repellant. I want to sell these at a craft fair in Oct. & I've been convinced that I should use a preservative(the p word!). From what I've read, there are no all natural preservatives. What's the best(healthiest) alternative? Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2001 Report Share Posted August 25, 2001 In a message dated 8/25/01 12:30:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, gregpenngreg@... writes: > I've begun to branch out from all natural soap. I've made some great, easy > balm, lotion, body mist, & insect repellant. I want to sell these at a craft > fair in Oct. & I've been convinced that I should use a preservative(the p > word!). From what I've read, there are no all natural preservatives. What's > the best(healthiest) alternative? > > Hi Penny, You are right---there are no " natural " preservatives that work. The Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) that was so popular at one time does not work on its own---studies have shown that synthetic preservatives were in the GSE and that's what made it effective. Anyway, just a word of caution so that you don't get sucked into that one!! As far as the " best " and " healthiest " ....depends on who you ask. As I mentioned in an earlier post today--I use Germall Plus-either liquid or powder. The reason I use it is because it has been tested extensively for efficacy and safety. It also works well in products that have emulsifying wax in them. Angie The Herbarie at Stoney Hill Farm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 Where you can find it? Thanks Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 I was given this http://oshun.bc.ca for the Germall Plus Liquid Pamela Mom of four wonderful boys Spenser 13, Preston 10.5, Bryce 6 and Paxton 2 Wife of my soulmate Dwight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2001 Report Share Posted August 26, 2001 In a message dated 8/26/2001 9:41:53 AM Central Daylight Time, frugalmomof4@... writes: > http://oshun.bc.ca for the Germall Plus Liquid > Great!! Thanks Pamela!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 I was referred to http:oshun.bc.ca Pamela Mom of four wonderful boys Spenser 13, Preston 10.5, Bryce 6 and Paxton 2 Wife of my soulmate Dwight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 I know another Source where you don't have to buy for 50Dollars bevore you get it,this is it:.lanaturale.com Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 Where do you purchase Germall Plus? Thanks in advance! Sweetly, Jan www.sweetnothingsbyjan.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2001 Report Share Posted August 27, 2001 Hi Jan, What’s the best preservative? Well, that depends on what you are preserving. You can use natural products such as gum benzoin (Styrax benzoin) to act against bacteria, molds, yeasts and fungi, but that takes practice, as the material is rather begrudging (thick and sticky). I have used it extensively in the past, and had negative results when testing for bacteria, fungi, molds and yeast, even after 2 years in the jar with no special storage considerations. As with everything in life, your mileage may vary. I STRONGLY suggest you perform a basic test to see if there’s anything growing in your mixes – even if they’re kept refrigerated. You can find a simple test for bacteria, molds, fungi and yeast at www.snowdriftfarm.com/chek-it.html <http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/chek-it.html> After gum benzoin, and trying to keep things as natural as possible, you could look at things such as alcohol, sugars and salts. These can be used as hurdles, but you have to keep the water contained – sort of like you do when you make a CP soap. You still have water in the finished product (til it completely dissipates), but you don’t have to worry as much about molds, yeast, fungi and/or bacteria forming. For more info on water hurdles, refer to this Pharmaceutical Formulation and Quality (PFQ) Magazine article at http://www.pharmaquality.com/wateract.html This is a rather interesting article, but the tactics they discuss are generally not available to those of us manufacturing at home. And again, they are not failsafe. That leads us to commercially prepared synthetic preservatives. Without knowing what type of emulsifier you are using or how much oil is being used in the formula, it is difficult to know what is the best preservative for your particular system. That said, I recommend and use Euxyl K 700 as a preservative for most lotion systems. It contains phenoxyethanol, benzyl alcohol, tocopherol and sorbic acid. It does not contain any formaldehyde releasing agents, such as you find in Germaben/Germall products, nor does it contain any parabens. You can add parabens to Euxyl, if the formulation requires it. If the pH is greater than 5.5, add 0.1% methyl paraben to ensure anti fungal and yeast activity. The two preservatives work very well in tandem. You can find Euxyl at www.snowdriftfarm.com/preservatives.html <http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/preservatives.html> If you wish to avoid the use of preservatives, I suggest labeling your product/s with the recommendation to refrigerate and toss after “X” number of days. Generally, I tell folks to toss unpreserved, refrigerated products within 3 days of their manufacture. Any more than that, and you may be running a bit more of a risk than you wish. Sincerely, Trina Wallace -- August's Oils of the Month- Lavender 40/42 & Aloe Butter www.SnowdriftFarm.com Quality Doesn't Have to Cost a Fortune! From: Randy & /or Jan Mahoney <frmpro@...> Subject: Re: Okay, what's the best preservative Where do you purchase Germall Plus? Thanks in advance! Sweetly, Jan www.sweetnothingsbyjan.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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