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nope..not madness and not rocket science either. if this is your

first challenge go by the book. it's the concept of consistency over

time that pays off in the end. do the portions, eat from the

authorized food list, do your 3 weight workouts (splits) a week plus

3 cardios and a free day and you'll be fine.

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Some of the stuff can get confusing, but following the book

works for me and several others. Any tweaking, counting calories

etc... is just extra stuff that some people do to help lose the body

fat or it is their 2, 3rd, or 4th challenge and they want different

results and know what works or doesn't work for them. :)

Don't feel confused, just hit delete. :) I would hate to see someone

leave the group or even BFL program. It is simple and clear cut,

the rest of the discussions are just research or tips.

*hugs*

Tink :)

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> Ladies, for 3 weeks I have been thinking how easy and clear cut BFL

> is! Now

> in a matter of hours and 98 emails, I am starting to think it's the most

> complicated nonsense ever. What is going on? I thought the whole idea

> behind Bills' program is that you go by portions - no counting

> calories, no

> measuring, no weighing. What' s going on?

>

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BINGO! BFL is made to be easy. Palm/fist portions, protein/carbs

plus veggies, 6 meals a day....follow that and you will get results.

Colleen

> Ladies, for 3 weeks I have been thinking how easy and clear cut BFL

is! Now

> in a matter of hours and 98 emails, I am starting to think it's the

most

> complicated nonsense ever. What is going on? I thought the whole

idea

> behind Bills' program is that you go by portions - no counting

calories, no

> measuring, no weighing. What' s going on?

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

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It just seems to me like this group focuses quite a bit on that and it's

really stressful for someone like me who chose this diet because its lack of

obsession with numbers.

>From: Crystal <tinkerbell@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Madness!

>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:06:17 -0400

>

>,

>

>Some of the stuff can get confusing, but following the book

>works for me and several others. Any tweaking, counting calories

>etc... is just extra stuff that some people do to help lose the body

>fat or it is their 2, 3rd, or 4th challenge and they want different

>results and know what works or doesn't work for them. :)

>

>Don't feel confused, just hit delete. :) I would hate to see someone

>leave the group or even BFL program. It is simple and clear cut,

>the rest of the discussions are just research or tips.

>

>*hugs*

>

>Tink :)

>

> Anne Klueppel wrote:

>

> > Ladies, for 3 weeks I have been thinking how easy and clear cut BFL

> > is! Now

> > in a matter of hours and 98 emails, I am starting to think it's the most

> > complicated nonsense ever. What is going on? I thought the whole idea

> > behind Bills' program is that you go by portions - no counting

> > calories, no

> > measuring, no weighing. What' s going on?

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

> > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

> > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

> >

> >

> >

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Take a deep breath. Okay, take another one. :) You don't have to do

any of this stuff (i.e., counting calories, entering food into

Fitday, become obsessive and neurotic about every morsel that goes in

your mouth). All that is strictly optional. Most of the ladies on

this board (myself included) who do go above and beyond the book are

BFL veterans and have been at it for years. Don't let it overwhelm

you. The reason so many extra topics are discussed on this board is

because the pure program itself is so simple there'd really be no

need for a discussion board at all. :)

dani

> Ladies, for 3 weeks I have been thinking how easy and clear cut BFL

is! Now

> in a matter of hours and 98 emails, I am starting to think it's the

most

> complicated nonsense ever. What is going on? I thought the whole

idea

> behind Bills' program is that you go by portions - no counting

calories, no

> measuring, no weighing. What' s going on?

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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,

I know I already replied, but this statement kind of hit a nerve with me.

The women in this group have tons of knowledge, support and wisdom

and there are all ranges from experts to beginners. My original advice

was to just delete what you do not need to know or care to know...you

choose what you read right? :)

I chose this diet because of the lack of numbers, I counted Weight Watcher

points for years and got VERY tired of it and the obsession. BUT, some

people need to count calories and need to keep an eye on their portion

sizes....because lets face it, somedays I want to eat a palm sized

portion the

size of Bill palm, not mine! LOL and there's a big difference.

Point is....follow the book, don't worry about what other people are doing

do what works for you, and let them do what works for them! :)

My photo's are under C1 for Tink...I followed the book for 3 weeks and look

what happened. Don't stress, there is no need too. The joy of having a

discussion

group is so that people can discuss options for the program and get tips

from

others as well as share successes, recipes, and friendship.

Best of Luck to You,

Tink

Anne Klueppel wrote:

>

> It just seems to me like this group focuses quite a bit on that and it's

> really stressful for someone like me who chose this diet because its

> lack of

> obsession with numbers.

>

> >From: Crystal <tinkerbell@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Re: Madness!

> >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:06:17 -0400

> >

> >,

> >

> >Some of the stuff can get confusing, but following the book

> >works for me and several others. Any tweaking, counting calories

> >etc... is just extra stuff that some people do to help lose the body

> >fat or it is their 2, 3rd, or 4th challenge and they want different

> >results and know what works or doesn't work for them. :)

> >

> >Don't feel confused, just hit delete. :) I would hate to see someone

> >leave the group or even BFL program. It is simple and clear cut,

> >the rest of the discussions are just research or tips.

> >

> >*hugs*

> >

> >Tink :)

> >

> > Anne Klueppel wrote:

> >

> > > Ladies, for 3 weeks I have been thinking how easy and clear cut BFL

> > > is! Now

> > > in a matter of hours and 98 emails, I am starting to think it's

> the most

> > > complicated nonsense ever. What is going on? I thought the whole idea

> > > behind Bills' program is that you go by portions - no counting

> > > calories, no

> > > measuring, no weighing. What' s going on?

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________________

> > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

> > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt the amount of knowledge in the group at

all. That's evident, and that is, in fact, why I decided to join after

having read several hundred of the postings. I didn't mean to strike a

nerve with you or anyone- I was just checking to see if the group's

discussions were focused on that kind of idea or if I just got a less than

ordinary sampling in the past couple of days, that's all. It's not that I

am not interested in the whole numbers idea - quite the contrary - I am a

numbers hound and today on my lunch break found myself in and Noble

looking to buy all kinds of guides on calories and proteins and carbs and

fat and .... you get the picture. It made me stop and say to myself " why

the sudden change in my attitude and take on this program? " I come from a

family of devout Weight Watchers point counters, and struggled with my

weight and my incessant numbers battles for 17 years, so when I'm presented

with the option of counting and tallying, I jump at it, but for me it's

detrimental to my success. I have seen in the past hours, though, that

there is a vast array of approaches, which is reassuring. Sorry to have

struck a chord! :-) Didn't mean to! But thanks to everyone for the

messages and opinions - it's healthy to have a good idea of how each

individual approaches this program.

>From: Crystal <tinkerbell@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Madness!

>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:43:30 -0400

>

>,

>

>I know I already replied, but this statement kind of hit a nerve with me.

>The women in this group have tons of knowledge, support and wisdom

>and there are all ranges from experts to beginners. My original advice

>was to just delete what you do not need to know or care to know...you

>choose what you read right? :)

>

>I chose this diet because of the lack of numbers, I counted Weight Watcher

>points for years and got VERY tired of it and the obsession. BUT, some

>people need to count calories and need to keep an eye on their portion

>sizes....because lets face it, somedays I want to eat a palm sized

>portion the

>size of Bill palm, not mine! LOL and there's a big difference.

>

>Point is....follow the book, don't worry about what other people are doing

>do what works for you, and let them do what works for them! :)

>

>My photo's are under C1 for Tink...I followed the book for 3 weeks and look

>what happened. Don't stress, there is no need too. The joy of having a

>discussion

>group is so that people can discuss options for the program and get tips

>from

>others as well as share successes, recipes, and friendship.

>

>Best of Luck to You,

>Tink

>

> Anne Klueppel wrote:

>

> >

> > It just seems to me like this group focuses quite a bit on that and it's

> > really stressful for someone like me who chose this diet because its

> > lack of

> > obsession with numbers.

> >

> > >From: Crystal <tinkerbell@...>

> > >Reply-

> > >

> > >Subject: Re: Madness!

> > >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:06:17 -0400

> > >

> > >,

> > >

> > >Some of the stuff can get confusing, but following the book

> > >works for me and several others. Any tweaking, counting calories

> > >etc... is just extra stuff that some people do to help lose the body

> > >fat or it is their 2, 3rd, or 4th challenge and they want different

> > >results and know what works or doesn't work for them. :)

> > >

> > >Don't feel confused, just hit delete. :) I would hate to see someone

> > >leave the group or even BFL program. It is simple and clear cut,

> > >the rest of the discussions are just research or tips.

> > >

> > >*hugs*

> > >

> > >Tink :)

> > >

> > > Anne Klueppel wrote:

> > >

> > > > Ladies, for 3 weeks I have been thinking how easy and clear cut BFL

> > > > is! Now

> > > > in a matter of hours and 98 emails, I am starting to think it's

> > the most

> > > > complicated nonsense ever. What is going on? I thought the whole

>idea

> > > > behind Bills' program is that you go by portions - no counting

> > > > calories, no

> > > > measuring, no weighing. What' s going on?

> > > >

> > > > _________________________________________________________________

> > > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

> > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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It is the easiest in the world. It's just that... wellllll... some

of use don't see the progress we want to see and think we can speed

things up. Some of us want are fixated by numbers and just have to

know the macrobiotic breakdown of everything we eat. Some of us

just want to make sure that we're not overdoing it to make sure we

get the most our of all this hard work that we're doing. And some of

us are just taking it one day at a time and the only counting we're

doing is the reps we're working on. :) Smile. It's all good!

Debra

> Ladies, for 3 weeks I have been thinking how easy and clear cut

BFL is! Now

> in a matter of hours and 98 emails, I am starting to think it's

the most

> complicated nonsense ever. What is going on? I thought the whole

idea

> behind Bills' program is that you go by portions - no counting

calories, no

> measuring, no weighing. What' s going on?

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE*

> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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