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I have used this book and have recommended it to colleiges. Teaching the

tiger is also very easy to read. The authors have taken the time to

consider how they can get their message across without a lot of jargon.

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Mellie asked:

>Has anyonr read the booK-TEACHING THE TIGER and

>is it a good book for parents or is it more for teachers?????

yes, it's excellent! I found it useful at home, and my son's previous

teacher liked it so much she bought her own copy. Basically, it has

information on what may be seen in class - both behavior and academics -

from children with OCD, ADHD, and/or Tourette's Syndrome. Then there are

long lists of ideas for handling specific symptoms. There's also great

advice on writing better IEPs and behavior plans, a lot of which is now

incorporated into my son's IEP.

BTW, I've also found many of the suggestions in this book to apply to

autistic behaviors as well, especially OCD-ish stuff (like having to

write " perfectly " or not at all).

Great book, highly recommended!!!

Mitzi Waltz * Author and Editor * http://www.teleport.com/~infobahn

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In a message dated 2/17/00 11:13:17 AM Mountain Standard Time,

kathyh@... writes:

<< It sounds like you have a lot of valuable experience

to share about advocating for Leigh in the school system. Have her

teachers read Dr. Marilyn Dornbusch's book " Teaching the Tiger? " This book

has a lot of good ideas and you are probably already familiar with it.

>>

Hi Kathy,

Yes I have a copy of Teaching the Tiger I tried to share with them, even

photocopied sections for them. They took the copies, but my gut feeling says

they didn't even read it!! Well, maybe one of them did.... I picked this

book up at a Movement Disorders conference in the fall. It was the first

time I knew that these disorders were called polygenetic, meaning it takes

more than one gene to make someone have the disorder. Say if a certain

disorder takes 7 genes, you could have three of the genes and no problems,

but add a fourth and whammo... you have the disorder... it revealed a lot to

me about my family tree as both my mom and sister have OCD (hoarding) and my

sister has to keep brushing her teeth over and over again.... my poor kid

ended up with the jackpot of both sides of a slightly loaded dice.

Jay W.

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>Jay W. wrote:

>It was the first time I knew that these disorders were called >polygenetic,

>meaning it takes more than one gene to make someone >have the disorder.

>Say if a certain disorder takes 7 genes, you >could have three of the genes

>and no problems, but add a fourth and >whammo... you have the disorder...

>it revealed a lot to me about my >family tree as both my mom and sister

>have OCD (hoarding) and my

>sister has to keep brushing her teeth over and over again.... my >poor kid

>ended up with the jackpot of both sides of a slightly >loaded dice.

>Jay W.

Jay,

personally I find this very interesting. My husband, and I are 4th cousins

on our mothers sides. His mother has ocd, both our mothers had/have

depression, I have dysphemia, yigal has ocd/depression, and so do our 3

kids.

can you tell me more from this research?

wendy in canada

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HI Jay:

You touch on a common problem, how much time do teachers have to read these

books? I find them useful for myself as I know what to ask for in Steve's

MP and can make suggestions for accommodations at school.

Our family has participated in a genetic study of OCD. Boy that was tough

getting Steve to agree to take a needle when his contamination OCD (many

AIDS fears) was pretty much at an all time high. We don't have any results

yet, but I have found out pretty recently that the OCD is on my side of the

family and the MDD is on both sides of the family (we are suicide

survivors). Before then I thought the OCD was from my husband's side of

the family and thought I was doing pretty well not to feel upset with him

for passing it on.....

Sometimes you just have to joke about the genetic load. In addition to OCD

I have also passed on genes for cancer and heart disease! I told Steve he

just has to hope I gave him some good ones along with the bad. He told me

not to worry about it, fat chance.

I hope your mother and sister are getting their OCD treated now the family

is focusing on OCD. Take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

kathyh@...

At 05:48 PM 02/18/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>From: Jay7138658@...

>

>In a message dated 2/17/00 11:13:17 AM Mountain Standard Time,

>kathyh@... writes:

>

><< It sounds like you have a lot of valuable experience

> to share about advocating for Leigh in the school system. Have her

> teachers read Dr. Marilyn Dornbusch's book " Teaching the Tiger? " This book

> has a lot of good ideas and you are probably already familiar with it.

> >>

>

>Hi Kathy,

>Yes I have a copy of Teaching the Tiger I tried to share with them, even

>photocopied sections for them. They took the copies, but my gut feeling

says

>they didn't even read it!! Well, maybe one of them did.... I picked this

>book up at a Movement Disorders conference in the fall. It was the first

>time I knew that these disorders were called polygenetic, meaning it takes

>more than one gene to make someone have the disorder. Say if a certain

>disorder takes 7 genes, you could have three of the genes and no problems,

>but add a fourth and whammo... you have the disorder... it revealed a lot

to

>me about my family tree as both my mom and sister have OCD (hoarding) and my

>sister has to keep brushing her teeth over and over again.... my poor kid

>ended up with the jackpot of both sides of a slightly loaded dice.

>Jay W.

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Beth, in IN,

Dysphemia is low grade, constant depression. It means that at times the

person can cope without meds, but when there is stress, etc. the depression

will come out full force.

I probably have had it since my teens, but was diagnosed about 2.5 years

ago. I tried to go off anti'd's while participating in a research project,

but it was a disaster. Like Tom, it looks like I will need anti-D's all my

life in order to survive.

wendy in canada

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, Hi what is dysphemia? Thanks Beth

Re: Teaching the Tiger

> From: " W. Birkhan " <wb4@...>

>

> >Jay W. wrote:

> >It was the first time I knew that these disorders were called

>polygenetic,

> >meaning it takes more than one gene to make someone >have the disorder.

> >Say if a certain disorder takes 7 genes, you >could have three of the

genes

> >and no problems, but add a fourth and >whammo... you have the disorder...

> >it revealed a lot to me about my >family tree as both my mom and sister

> >have OCD (hoarding) and my

> >sister has to keep brushing her teeth over and over again.... my >poor

kid

> >ended up with the jackpot of both sides of a slightly >loaded dice.

> >Jay W.

>

> Jay,

> personally I find this very interesting. My husband, and I are 4th cousins

> on our mothers sides. His mother has ocd, both our mothers had/have

> depression, I have dysphemia, yigal has ocd/depression, and so do our 3

> kids.

> can you tell me more from this research?

>

> wendy in canada

>

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HI Kathy,

Last year I gave andra's exceptional first grade teacher a copy of

" Teaching the Tiger, " for a resource library she was starting at our

school. I agree - I think every school should have several copies. I

also keep one to refer to at home.

Lesli (SFBay)

Kathy Hammes wrote:

>

> Hi AUreen:

>

> Oops! I mispoke - must have been a untamed behavior day at home <VBG>.

> You are quite right it is entitled " TEaching the Tiger " . Mea culpa, mea

> maxima culpa, sixteen lashes with a wet noodle for giving our misinformation.

>

> I think every school should have several copies of this book. Maybe for

> the new year we can think about donating one to our kid's school library

> for professional development. Take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

> kathyh@...

>

> P.S. I wonder if there is a good book by that wrong title, ....hmmm.....:-))

>

> P.P.S. I promise to control my OCD book hoarding by giving them

> away. .....

>

> At 05:49 PM 01/04/2001 -0500, you wrote:

> >

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: Kathy Hammes <kathyh@...>

> >> If you specify what symptoms are most difficult at school I can try to

> >> think of specific accommodations. Dr. Dornbush's book, " Taming the

> >Tiger " has lots of great suggestions.

> >

> >Kathy,

> >Pardon me, I could not resist giving you a hard time about this.....What

> >book is this again? LOL.

> >

> >For those of you who are not aware of this book, it's TEACHING the Tiger,

> >lest you be misguided.

> >

> >Aureen

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