Re: Tofu is loaded with nickel

[Guest guest]

Ray wrote:

> Tofu is rich in nickel, just like wheat, oats, hydrogenated

> fats, liqorice root, sunflower seeds, cocoa and chocolate

> for example.

Refined wheat products including pasta, white bread, and white

wheat flour are LOW in nickel -- but wheat bran products (whole

wheat breads and cereals) are high in nickel. Also high in

nickel are 'healthy vegan foods' like tofu, beans, seeds, and nuts.

Bill

List of foods to be avoided for people on

a nickel-restricted diet -- see:

http://mayohealth.org/mayo/askdiet/htm/new/qd990317.htm

the following is extracted from:

http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/GDWQ/Chemicals/nickelfull.htm

" As nuts and beans are important sources of protein for

vegetarians, this population group can be expected to

have a markedly higher intake of nickel than reported

in the studies cited... "

-- Nickel --

( Information extracted from: Guidelines for drinking-water quality,

2nd ed. Addendum to Vol. 2. Health criteria and other supporting

information. Geneva, World Health Organization, 1998. pp. 48-61. )

Food

Nickel levels in food are generally in the range 0.01-0.1 mg/kg,

but there are large variations (Booth, 1990; Jorhem & Sundstr÷m,

1993; Dabeka & McKenzie, 1995; Levnedsmiddelstyrelsen, 1995).

Higher median levels of nickel (0.1-0.4 mg/kg) were found in

wholemeal products (Smart & Sherlock, 1987; Levnedsmiddelstyrelsen,

1995), whereas markedly higher levels (1-6 mg/kg) were found in

beans, seeds, nuts, and wheat bran (Smart & Sherlock, 1987; Jorhem

& Sundstr÷m, 1993). Even higher nickel levels (8-12 mg/kg) were

found in cocoa [chocolate] (Smart & Sherlock, 1987).

As nuts and beans are important sources of protein for vegetarians,

this population group can be expected to have a markedly higher

intake of nickel than reported in the studies cited above. The

nickel intake of eight volunteers when they ingested normal diets

averaged 0.13 mg/day (range 0.06-0.26 mg/day), compared with 0.07

mg/day when diets containing low nickel levels were consumed

(range 0.02-0.14 mg/day). When food rich in nickel was ingested,

the daily intake was 0.25 mg/day (range 0.07-0.48 mg/day) (Veien &

Andersen, 1986).

References

Booth J (1990) Nickel in the diet and its role in allergic

dermatitis. Journal of human nutrition and dietetics, 3:233-243.

Jorhem L, Sundstr÷m B (1993) Levels of lead, cadmium, zinc, copper,

nickel, chromium, manganese and cobalt in foods on the Swedish

market 1983-1990. Journal of food composition and analysis,

6:223-241.

Dabeka RW, McKenzie AD (1995) Survey of lead, cadmium, fluoride,

nickel, and cobalt in food composites and estimation of dietary

intakes of these elements by Canadians in 1986-1988. Journal of

the Association of Official Analytical Chemists International,

78:897-909.

Smart GA, Sherlock JC (1987) Nickel in foods and the diet. Food

additives and contaminants, 4:61-71.

Veien NK, Andersen MR (1986) Nickel in Danish food. Acta Dermato

Venereologica, 66:502-509.

[Guest guest]

Bill wrote...

<snip>

Also high in nickel are 'healthy vegan foods' like tofu,

beans, seeds, and nuts.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bill,

I've been seeing quite a bit on tofu as a definitely " unhealthy "

food. There is a long article in the Townsend newsletter, last

issue out, about tofu...very well-researched...I don't

think anyone who read that article would want to eat tofu again.

Here is something briefer but gives some of the ideas...

~^^V^^~

>SOY PROTEINS AND THEIR EFFECT ON THE THYROID: A Q & A WITH DR.

>FITZPATRICK

>

>I frequently get this question from readers about soy proteins and

>isoflavone supplements, and readers forward to me all the various

> " justifications " from different soy product manufacturers as to why

>their products are different, why their products should be viewed as

>safe, and are food supplements, NOT hormones, etc. Dr. Mike

>Fitzpatrick, phytoestrogen research and contributor to my upcoming book,

>has shared this Q & A with me, and I think you'll find the information

>valuable.

>

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>

>Dear Dr. Fitzpatrick:

>

>I am hypothyroid and was told by my doc that soy protein is OK. I take

>REVIVAL soy (1-800- 500-8053) manufactured by Physicians Labs in

>town, NC and recommended by Dr. Christiane Northrup. I called them

>and they said that the manufacturing process of high temperatures

>neutralizes the isoflavones therefore its Ok...after the high temps

>they pulverize the soybean into powder ready for use. It's very

>confusing. What do you think? Can you neutralize isoflavones in this

>way? Is it OK in small doses? If isoflavones are neutralized what

>benefits are left in the soy? --

>

>Hello

>

>Er, I'm confused too. I visited the Revival website and found that the

>product is marketed as being able to: " 1. Reduce hot flashes, improve

>sleeping and boost mood without weight gain. 2. Help sustain regular

>sexual activity by improving vaginal moisture levels. 3. Promote strong,

>healthy bones and joints. 4. Support healthy breast, vaginal,

>endometrial and prostate (men) tissues. " etc..

>

>That is, all the typical claims about isoflavones are being made by

>Revival as well. I also read at their website that " One serving of

>Revival contains: 20 grams of protein and about 160 milligrams of soy

>isoflavones (see http://www.revivalsoy.com/meno/askexperts.html)

>

>It is these same isoflavones that are potent anti-thyroid agents and I

>have very serious concerns that anybody (regardless of whether or not

>they have a thyroid condition) would be consuming 160 mg per day; this

>is a recipe for thyroid catastrophe.

>

>It is also absolute nonsense to claim that their high temperature

>process neutralizes the isoflavones. I think whoever you spoke to is

>getting mixed up with another group of soy toxins (protease

>inhibitors). The soy isoflavones are only 'neutralized' at temperatures

>above about 350 Celsius. This would fry the protein and everything else

>in the soy as well and you'd be left with a stinky black blob. Anyway,

>as you correctly point out, if they neutralize the isoflavones how can

>they work?!!

>

>My advice to you is avoid this product like the plague.

>

>Mike Fitzpatrick, PhD

>

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>

>There is more information about soy's detrimental effects on the thyroid

>in an article my website,

>http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa083099.htm This article also

>discusses how much soy can or might be safe for those adults with

>thyroid problems. Also, see what hormone and weight loss expert Larrian

>Gillespie, MD has to say about women and how much soy is actually safe.

>It's less than you think, and will probably surprise you,

>http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa102499.htm

>

>=========================================================

>

>RESEARCHERS FIND NO DATA TO SUPPORT CLAIMS THAT PHYTOESTROGENS HAVE

>HEALTH BENEFITS

>

>According to researchers reporting in the Jan. 15 issue of the British

>medical journal, The Lancet, there are no significant data to support

>the use of supplements containing phytoestrogens (i.e., soy isoflavone

>supplements) for the conditions for which they are being heavily

>promoted. Manufacturers are touting these products as being able to

>ease menopausal symptoms, and prevent or treat cancer and heart

>disease. The study's authors looked at published research and could not

>find any evidence that plant-derived estrogens significantly alleviate

>hot flashes, and found no significant protective effects of

>plant-derived estrogens for heart disease or cancer. The authors warned,

> " The possibility that there may be toxic as well as therapeutic effects

>is commonly ignored. "

>

>=========================================================

>

>DIET HIGH IN PHYTOESTROGENS MAY AFFECT UNBORN BABIES

>

>According to researchers at the University of Bristol in England,

>mothers who follow a vegetarian diet are five times more likely to

>deliver a baby boy with a birth defect called hypospadias. This

>condition causes abnormalities in a boy's genital organs. The

>researchers speculate that overconsumption of phytoestrogens such as

>soy, a staple in vegetarian diets, is causing hormonal effects.

>Interestingly, the researchers also found that mothers who took iron

>supplements during pregnancy doubled the risk of delivering a boy with

>this birth defect. While the research didn't make this correlation, iron

>is known to bind to thyroid hormone, and causes elevated TSH rates and

>worsened hypothyroidism. The study was published in the January issue

>of BJU International, a journal of the British Association of Urological

>Surgeons.

>

>=========================================================

>

>THIRD OF JAPANESE SUFFER CHRONIC FATIGUE

>

>Researchers in Japan have found that more than one in three Japanese

>suffer from a severe case of chronic fatigue. In a survey of more than

>3,000 people age 15 to 65, the Health Ministry found that 36 percent

>have suffered chronic fatigue for six months, and half had been forced

>to miss days of school or work due to the condition. The Japanese are

>apparently showing high levels of fatigue compared with respondents in

>similar studies from other countries. While researchers did not discuss

>possible causes for this problem, given the high consumption of soy and

>phytoestrogens in Japan, the question must be raised as to whether there

>is widespread underdiagnosed low-level hypothyroidism going on in Japan,

>or chronic autoimmune hypothyroidism is developing due to phytoestrogen

>exposure? (Source: Reuters Wire, 02/06/2000)

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Vilik,

Dr. Jensen's colon cleansing program booklet written 20-30 years ago??? points

out that concentrated vegetable protein (tofu) is as bad as animal meat in that

the same bacteria will feed on it. And, since it is the three ketone waste

products of the those bacteria that are more harmful than the meat itself, tofu

is as bad as beef for those who care.

Folks, Jack LaLanne said it last week, " If man makes it, don't eat it! " It don't

get a whole lot simpler than that! Now, who doesn't understand don't eat it?

;-))

((you mean, even if it tastes THAT good?))

jim

Vilik Rapheles wrote:

> Bill wrote...

>

> <snip>

> Also high in nickel are 'healthy vegan foods' like tofu,

> beans, seeds, and nuts.

>

--

" Coming events cast their shadows before. " --

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

[Guest guest]

<snip>

>Folks, Jack LaLanne said it last week, " If man makes it, don't eat it! " It

don't get a whole lot simpler than that! Now, who doesn't understand don't

eat it? ;-))

>

>((you mean, even if it tastes THAT good?))

>

>jim

~~~~~~~~

How about if a WOMAN makes it? (just looking for a loophole here...)

~^^V^^~

[Guest guest]

Vilik,

I know there's this whole feminist thing..... but, no, not even if a wo-man

makes it. ;-)

jim

Vilik Rapheles wrote:

> <snip>

> >Folks, Jack LaLanne said it last week, " If man makes it, don't eat it! " It

> don't get a whole lot simpler than that! Now, who doesn't understand don't

> eat it? ;-))

> ~~~~~~~~

> How about if a WOMAN makes it? (just looking for a loophole here...)

>

> ~^^V^^~

>

--

" Coming events cast their shadows before. " --

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

[Guest guest]

> Dr. Jensen's colon cleansing program booklet written 20-30 years ago??? points

out that

> concentrated vegetable protein (tofu) is as bad as animal meat in that the

same bacteria will

> feed on it.

>

Interesting. I am a vegetarian who has never gravitated to tofu type

things. J.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jim,

That is a nice little homily from Jack LaLanne, but it is not exactly

correct for everyone.

Nutrition is not an exact science, even at this late date. Too much

commercial interest

in the lab.

For a small number of people (fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, etc.) the

contents of many

fruits and vegetables are not beneficial. These contents are salicylates.

The most

familiar form is acetylsalicylate (ASA), aspirin, but they exist in many

foods.

Also, the nutritional content of some meats are required by some people, and

these are better

cooked than raw.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

Re: Re: Tofu is loaded with nickel

> Vilik,

>

> Dr. Jensen's colon cleansing program booklet written 20-30 years ago???

points out that concentrated vegetable protein (tofu) is as bad as animal

meat in that the same bacteria will feed on it. And, since it is the three

ketone waste products of the those bacteria that are more harmful than the

meat itself, tofu is as bad as beef for those who care.

>

> Folks, Jack LaLanne said it last week, " If man makes it, don't eat it! " It

don't get a whole lot simpler than that! Now, who doesn't understand don't

eat it? ;-))

>

> ((you mean, even if it tastes THAT good?))

>

> jim

>

> Vilik Rapheles wrote:

>

> > Bill wrote...

> >

> > <snip>

> > Also high in nickel are 'healthy vegan foods' like tofu,

> > beans, seeds, and nuts.

> >

>

> --

> " Coming events cast their shadows before. " --

>

> jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

>

>

>

>

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