Need some advice

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In a message dated 03/31/2000 10:11:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,

CeeJaeC@... writes:

<< Can someone tell me if there is a Tae Bo tape that works mostly upper

body?

I only have the original 4 pack minus the advanced tape. My sister swears

there was never an advanced tape with the pack she bought. Anyway, the side

kicks and roundhouse kicks cause pain and discomfort in my hips so I'd like

to find a tape that has a few kicks, but mostly works upper body. >>

I strongly suggest BL3

it has minimal kicking (no roundhouses), great music and alot of upper body

work. Remember too, modify, modify , modify and substitute punching combos

when is kicking

Barb

who is sore from TBTV Adv #7 tonight but a good kind of sore

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<< I strongly suggest BL3

it has minimal kicking (no roundhouses), great music and alot of upper body

work. Remember too, modify, modify , modify and substitute punching combos

when is kicking >>

Thanks Barb. I have a hard time remembering to " modify " so thanks for

reminding me! LOL! I will get BL3. I appreciate your help.

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<< , the tapes I do when my legs or hips are bothering me are AL5, the

advanced (stop after the floor work) and basic >>

Thanks Elena. There are so many tapes that I don't know how everybody keeps

them all straight! LOL! I just subscribed to the automatic shipment so

hopefully I'll have a whole library of tapes that I can do without hurting my

hips. If I have to do the upper body work from more than one tape to get a

good workout, that's what I'll do. Thanks again :-)

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CeeJaeC@... wrote:

>

> Can someone tell me if there is a Tae Bo tape that works mostly upper

> body?

> I only have the original 4 pack minus the advanced tape. My sister

> swears

> there was never an advanced tape with the pack she bought. Anyway, the

> side

> kicks and roundhouse kicks cause pain and discomfort in my hips so I'd

> like

> to find a tape that has a few kicks, but mostly works upper body.

> Thanks for

> any info.

>

> , the tapes I do when my legs or hips are bothering me are AL5, the

advanced (stop after the floor work) and basic (some kicks, but

just skip them). AL5 is mostly floor work but I find that much easier on the

hips and legs. The tapes (part of the live 4-pack) have a lot of upper

body work. I don't have BL3-BL7. Maybe someone else can tell you if they have

mostly upper body stuff.

Elena

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In a message dated 03/31/2000 10:29:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

CeeJaeC@... writes:

<< If I have to do the upper body work from more than one tape to get a

good workout, that's what I'll do. Thanks again :-) >>

now that is what I call modifying

BTW, the original 8 minute doesn't have much kicking either I believe?

Barb

whose mom is proud she can now lift her foot off the floor long enough to

kick but knows to kick low

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In a message dated 03/31/2000 10:29:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

CeeJaeC@... writes:

<< If I have to do the upper body work from more than one tape to get a

good workout, that's what I'll do. Thanks again :-) >>

now that is what I call modifying

BTW, the original 8 minute doesn't have much kicking either I believe?

Barb

whose mom is proud she can now lift her foot off the floor long enough to

kick but knows to kick low

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Hi Pam - We have a Ds Clinic here in Cincinnati. Dr. Bonnie is the chief of staff and is a Developmental Pediatrician as well. We found it to be helpful to consult with her. Annie saw her when she was about one year old. You meet with a team of specialists, and each gives you a detailed assessment of what they find...typically, it occurs right there, and they offer the time to ask questions and chat. It is about a two hour appointment, but what a wealth of knowledge one gains! It was so nice to have all of the specialists in the room to talk with. Another thing is that they don't all converge upon you at once. They see you one or two at a time to cut down on a crowded office. I felt that it was a good choice to take Annie there. Granted, I knew a lot of what they already had to say, but it was a comfort nonetheless, and I felt like I did something that needed to be done on Annie's behalf. So, in a word, I say take advantage of the service. My experience was a positive one. Hope all is well with everyone. Take care, all )

Love, The Baxter's (Tim, , Ann and Kate, twins, 4 yrs. old)

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Hi Pam,

We don't have any experience with other children teaching our girls challenging bahaviour YET! I think they teach the other kids some tricks though :-)

We don't have any other kids in Emma and Nicki's class with Special Needs. Next year however there is a boy with Aspergers in Emma's new class although he doesn't do anything as radical as the boy you describe.

I'm not sure what I would do in this situation - big lot of help I am! Emma would respond well to saying "No" and redirecting to something else. How do the teachers deal with the boy when he slaps himself?

I went and saw a Special school the other day which made my heart sink. There were some pretty scary things going on there and LOADS of behaviour that I wouldn't want imitated.

Good luck Pam and let us know how you get on.

Love

CarolynMum to on, , Emma (Ds) and Nicki (Ds)www.geocities.com/nz_mom/sykesfamily.html

Need some advice

Hi everyone,

There is a little boy with austism in the twins classroom at school. He has a lot of behaviour problems and Hannah is starting to act like he does. He slaps hisself in the face and hits hisself between the legs often during the day. He also screams as he is doing this. Hannah is starting to do these things when she is mad or wants something. Needless to say this is causing some problems for us but I don't know what to do about it. I guess there is nothing I can do except teach Hannah this is not appropriate behaviour. What would you do in this case? Or has anyone else been in a similiar situation?

Also, Vanderbilt medical Center in Nashville has started a Down Syndrome clinic. I was thinking of taking the girls to see some of the specialist there. Does anyone have any experience with a clinic like this? What benefits did you get from it. I think a development pediatrician would be helpful. What do they do exactly anyway?

I hope all is well in your house.

Pam mom to Hannah and age 6 with DS, Josh age 20 and Dusty age 15

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Hi Lindsey :-) Yay, you've made it almost to the end, that must feel

so great!

My thoughts:

a)muscle weighs 4 times more than fat - have you had your body fat %

taken recently?

b)too much cardio is bad if you're doing it all in one session, or

are you breaking it up and doing it 20 minutes at a time? When you

do your cardio, are you going so hard you can't talk, can barely walk

when you get off the bike?

c)My partner tells me that I should not be aiming for the exact same

amount of protein/carbs in my diet. He gave me the numbers that are

supposed to be correct for me, but I don't recall off the top of my

head. In any case although I'm no expert on this matter, I'm pretty

sure that they don't have to be exact. I'm sure someone else will be

able to shed more light on this than me.

> Hey everyone my name is Lindsey and I start week 10 tomorrow. Woop!

> Im kinda down because ive only lost 1.5 lbs in the past 3 weeks...

i

> dunno whats going on. IM working my butt off including extra cardio

> and everything.. i really dont get it. ALso i have a question about

> Eating For Life... Okay you can look up the nutritional facts

online

> on the EFL website and i was juts wondering why there are more

carbs

> than protein in the recipes or vise versa.. because in the BFL book

> he says to have one portion of each .. being a number nerd and

> couting everything.. i cant help it lol.. this kind of bothers me.

I

> have the EFL book and i want to try the recipes soo bad im just

> scared that i will gain from them because they have more calories

> than i usually eat in a meal time and more carbs vs. protein ( or

> vise versa again) Any suggestions?? Did anyone plateau like i'm

> doing? I really want to come out strong in my last couple of

weeeks..

> please help.

> p.s- the ladies at the gym said their last couple of weeks they

went

> low carb and they really saw a differnce but ive already cut my

carbs

> out on my last meal before bed and i dont want to push it.

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If you're doing extra cardio and cutting carbs, you may be shooting yourself in

the foot, so to speak. There's a certain point at which that backfires badly and

you go into a catabolic spiral. Your body starts consuming fast-twitch (size and

strength) fibers for energy and preserving the slow-twitch fibers you need for

the cardio. Your cortisol levels shoot up, your strength decreases, and

eventually all your progress stalls because you're burning up lean mass instead

of body fat. That may or may not be the problem but it's the first thing to

consider.

As for the EFL recipes being higher carb, check out this Bill chat

where everybody asks him the questions about carbs and portions and ratios. In a

nutshell, he tells everybody to chill the hell out. :-)

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/79/96131.htm

Need some Advice

Hey everyone my name is Lindsey and I start week 10 tomorrow. Woop!

Im kinda down because ive only lost 1.5 lbs in the past 3 weeks... i

dunno whats going on. IM working my butt off including extra cardio

and everything.. i really dont get it. ALso i have a question about

Eating For Life... Okay you can look up the nutritional facts online

on the EFL website and i was juts wondering why there are more carbs

than protein in the recipes or vise versa.. because in the BFL book

he says to have one portion of each .. being a number nerd and

couting everything.. i cant help it lol.. this kind of bothers me. I

have the EFL book and i want to try the recipes soo bad im just

scared that i will gain from them because they have more calories

than i usually eat in a meal time and more carbs vs. protein ( or

vise versa again) Any suggestions?? Did anyone plateau like i'm

doing? I really want to come out strong in my last couple of weeeks..

please help.

p.s- the ladies at the gym said their last couple of weeks they went

low carb and they really saw a differnce but ive already cut my carbs

out on my last meal before bed and i dont want to push it.

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What are your overall results? The scale really is the least accurate

way to gauge your progress. It does help tell you certain things but

for overall progress, I'd go by inches lost, fat loss percentage and

the good ol' pantsometer.

Colleen

> Hey everyone my name is Lindsey and I start week 10 tomorrow. Woop!

> Im kinda down because ive only lost 1.5 lbs in the past 3 weeks...

i

> dunno whats going on. IM working my butt off including extra cardio

> and everything.. i really dont get it. ALso i have a question about

> Eating For Life... Okay you can look up the nutritional facts

online

> on the EFL website and i was juts wondering why there are more

carbs

> than protein in the recipes or vise versa.. because in the BFL book

> he says to have one portion of each .. being a number nerd and

> couting everything.. i cant help it lol.. this kind of bothers me.

I

> have the EFL book and i want to try the recipes soo bad im just

> scared that i will gain from them because they have more calories

> than i usually eat in a meal time and more carbs vs. protein ( or

> vise versa again) Any suggestions?? Did anyone plateau like i'm

> doing? I really want to come out strong in my last couple of

weeeks..

> please help.

> p.s- the ladies at the gym said their last couple of weeks they

went

> low carb and they really saw a differnce but ive already cut my

carbs

> out on my last meal before bed and i dont want to push it.

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Hi Stacie-

First let me say how sorry I am that you are going

through this frustration when you already have enough

stress in your life! My son used to be sick all the

time. I would say that he is still unlucky when it

comes to illness, but it isn't nearly as bad as it was

before. It is different because he is only three, but

he does receive services through the school district.

I have NEVER had anyone say my son shouldn't receive

services due to illness. They are always supportive

and hope he feels better soon. They are also thankful

I don't subject them and the other kids they are

working with to illness! You can't help it if he

misses school due to illness! You also shouldn't have

to decrease any services when he is healthy because of

this!

My assumption is that this is more about money. If

your speech therapist isn't working with your son due

to illness then that speech therapist could be

assigned to someone else therefor lowering the cost to

the school district. I might be completely off, but

this may have nothing to do with sickness and

everything to do with excuses to get out of providing

proper services. My son receives speech therapy in

school and in home from the school district. There

are many reasons for this, but one of the benefits is

that when he doesn't feel great (but isn't contagious)

he can still get speech therapy (they tone it down and

work at his pace.)

My son had constant URI and ear/sinus infections. In

one year he was on antibiotics 11 times! Then I found

out he had allergies and asthma. I know you said your

son was tested for allergies, but did they test him

for asthma? My son has not had a single ear/sinus

infection since being put on medication. Maybe you

can go into your son's primary care doctor and lay it

all out. Tell the doctor that these illnesses are

having a huge affect on your son's therapy and future.

Then ask what they suggest can be done to help this

little guy. Obviously these illnesses are having a

major affect on his life and should be addressed. I

was told my son was unlucky and then I found out the

poor kid had allergies and was suffering constant low

grade asthma attacks making his life miserable and

making it impossible for him to learn. Hang in there

and don't give up any services you qualify for unless

you think your son doesn't need or truly wont use

them! If you have another IEP meeting have a person

there to support you. If you have a great doctor

maybe they would attend, but anyone that understands

your situation (is on your side) and is diplomatic can

be very helpful! In addition maybe you would even

want to include someone from your son's intensive

therapy to attend.

Good luck!

Angie

--- Stacie <scrapitall54201@...> wrote:

> Good Morning. I have some issues I am trying to sort

> out and learn how to

> present to school and I am really stuck. First of

> all, my son is 5 and has

> high functioning autism. He gets occupational

> therapy from school for fine

> motor which he is doing awesome. They are working on

> his writing. And he

> gets speech therapy about 2 hours per week. Dakota

> also gets intensive

> therapy about 20 - 35 hours per week. They were

> going to school for about 6

> hours a week and the rest at home. Dakota is sick a

> lot. So he misses school

> Everytime he is sick I call the doctor and its

> documented. I kept him home

> one week for a sinus infection as he was pale. This

> week he has been home

> with fevers all week. I took him to the allergist

> and with the tests they

> did he didn't have any reactions. They also tested

> his immune system. We

> were hoping that would show us something. Nope

> nothing. I got told yesterday

> Dakota is one of the unlucky kids who gets sick all

> the time. I am

> frustrated as I feel there is a reason. Well the

> allergist said his nose

> looks like he has allergies. I called yesterday

> because his symptoms got

> worse. They said he had a virus and a sinus

> infection so they are treating

> him with a antibiotic, sudafed and clartin. Fine.

> Well the point of this

> email is I got a phone call from the speech

> therpaist yesterday from school.

> She starts out Dakota has been missing a lot of

> school. And he didn't come

> today. I said that's because he has a fever. I can't

> send him to school sick

> Then she proceeds and says well you know last

> quarter he missed 18 days.

> Well that was due to being sick and doctors

> appointments. Well then she

> starts asking about the company that does Dakota's

> therapy. They ask if they

> are still working with him on his speech and I said

> yes. She says when he is

> sick do they work with him. I said only when he

> doesn't have a fever. She

> said well if he is well enough for a therapist he is

> well enough to go to

> school. I was like excuse me. I said I will not send

> him if he is sick. Then

> she says well he is regressing really bad in his

> speech. And I said oh no

> your telling me this when you don't even update me

> on his progress at all. I

> already know he is regressing. I talked to the

> neurologist back in December

> I think it was and we think it's due to a seizure

> but we don't know if the

> damage is permanent or temporary. Well she proceeds

> to be rude. I told her I

> don't need the harassment. I told her she was

> ticking me off and I was

> hanging up. I felt attacked. I felt it was rude of

> her. I don't know what

> they want me to do. I can't send him to school sick.

> Even his teacher knows

> how sick he is. So I called the prinicpal. And he

> starts out saying tha the

> told the special Ed teachers that the copmany that

> does the intensive

> therapy is not allowed to work with him during

> school hours. I said why are

> they still at school then. He says I will have to

> find out. If I have to I

> will stand out the front doors and not let them in.

> I said that's fine as I

> think Dakota will do better with no one at school.

> And besides I don't like

> the therapist at school. She is always nagging at

> him. So basically he was

> defending the teacher. He said with the IEP they are

> contracted to 2 hours a

> week. I siad look I can't please the county and the

> school. He said you don

> t have to please anyone but yourself and your

> family. He then said if the

> kid is contaigus don't send him. I told him about

> the testing that was going

> on to find out why Dakota was sick all the time. I

> didn't get them back at

> that point. So he says wie will tread water until

> then. Once I get the

> results I was to call back. I left him a message

> this morning to call me.

> The worst that will happen at this point is we will

> change his IEP. And part

> of me wants to lower the speech to the minimum

> because he is sick all the

> time. I can't gaurentee he will be at school with

> how sick he gets. I called

> Dakota's senior therapist once I got off the phone

> with him and she

> contacted the county. Basically what's happening is

> the principal doesn't

> want the company in therer to work with Dakota. So

> the county said that's

> fine pull him out. We dn' tneed to argue with him at

> the moment. It's not

> against the law for them to go to school or to be

> here at my home during

> school hours. I think he is making things up. I

> don't agree with the label

> the put him on for the IEP. He is labeled OHI

> because he doesn't meet the

> autism requirements. I think they are wrong about

> that. So I am going to

> write a letter to the county and let them know I

> awant someone else to come

> in and observe for one. But what can I do to fight

> back. What's next they

> call social services because he is missing so much

> school. If they do I am

> not worried as everytime he is home I have contacted

> the doctor or he has

> had appointments and everything is documented. How

> can I fight back at

> school. I don't know what else to do. Any

> suggestions.

>

> Stacie

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FIRST OFF GET AN ADVOCATE !!!!! THEY WILL FIGHT AND HELP YOU TRHOUGH THE PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE YOUR SON GETS THE HELP HE NEEDS.SINCE HE IS GETTING DR APPTS AND DR EXCUSES THERE IS NO REASON THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS MISSING SCHOOL YOU HAVE DOCUMENTATION .I WOULD NOT SEND A KID TO SCHOOL SICK AND IF IT IS A CONTAGIOUS THING NO ONE WANTS THE OTHER STUDENTS TO GET SICK. BUT TELL THEM IF U DO SEND HIM THE OTHER KIDS CAN GET IT AND LETS FACE IT WHO WANTS TO DO THINGS WHEN U ARE HACKING UP A LUNG OR HAVE A FEVER GOD THESE SCHOOLS ARE PATHETIC ANYMORE .IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND AND ALSO HAVING THE SCHOOLS ACCOUNTABLE WITH THE KIDS NOT LEARNING OR LEARNING AT A SLOWER RATE THAN THE OTHER SCHOOLS.FUNDING PLAYS A BIG PART IF ONE OR MORE KIDS BRING DOWN THE SCORES OF THE SCHOOL OVER ALL THEY DO NOT GET MORE FUNDING .I DIDNT FIGHT MY SONS OLD SCHOOL TO HAVE HIM IN IT I FOUGHT TO GET HIM IN A SPECIAL

SCHOOL IT TOOK A LONG TIME FOR IT FROM K TO 5 TH GRADE I FOUGHT THEY FINALLY HAD TO ADMIT THEY COULDNT TEACH HIM IT TOOK HIS 5 TH GRADE TEACHER (SPECIAL ED)WHO I KNEW A FRIEND OF HERS AND SHE HAD MY OLDEST SON FOR REMEDIAL SAYING TO THEM THEY ARNT DOING RIGHT BY HIM THAT THERE WAS NO WAY SHE CAN REACH HIM HERE IN THIS EVVIRONEMNT WELL HE WAS PLACED IN ANOTHER SCHOOL WELL HE ISNT PERFECT DIDNT DO THIS MASSIVE LEARNING SPREEE BUT HE CAME OUT OF HIS SHELL MORE AND LEARNED MORE THAN HE HAD AT THE OTHER SCHOOL THE FIRST 9 WEEKS ..

FOR YOUR SON IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN HAVE A TUTOR OR A HOME SCHOOL SITUATION WHILE HE IS SICK I KNOW THEY DO IT FOR THE KIDS WHO GET HURT OR WHAT NIOT AND WILL BE ABSENT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME ALSO YOU CAN ALSO GET PRIVATE SPEECH OUT SIDE OF THE SCHOOL SO IF HE MISSED A SPEECH SESSION AT SCHOOL IT WOULDNT BE THAT BAD CUZ HE WOULD STILL HAVE SPEECH OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL..... FOR 2 YEARS I TOOK MY 2 SONS 2 TIMES A WEEK FOR AN HOUR LONG TO SPEECH AND OT OUT SIDE OF THE SCHOOL SO IF THEY WERE BY CHANCE ABSENT ON THEIR SPEECH DAY IT WAS NO BIG DEAL CUS THEY WERE STILL GETTING IT SO THERE IS NO REGRESION FROM MISSED DAYS.

SCHOOLS MOST OF THEM DO NOT WANT TO WORK WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES AND THERE IS USUALLY ALWAYS A PROBLEM BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE AGENCY THAT IS WHERE AN ADVOCATE WOULD COME IN .

DO NOT LET THEM CRITISISE YOU FOR KEEPING HIM HOME .AND MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS IT THE BUSINESS OF THE SPEECH THERAPISTS TO SAY ABOUT HIS DAYS MISSED OF SCHOOL .THAT IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JOB (VIA THE PRINCIPLE /TRUANCY OFFICER) . IT IS NOT THE THERAPISTS OR THE TEACHERS JOB TO CONTACT YOU AT ALL . THE TEACHER COULD ALSO ARRANGE TO HAVE HOMEWORK SENT HOME AND YOU WORK ON IT AT HOME WITH HIM. THERE IS ALWAYS WAYS TO GET AROUND THIS. WITH OUT THEM HAVING TO RESORT TO CRITISING AND MAKING IT SOUND LIKE A LEGALITY/LIABILITY. THEY ARE JUST BEING JERKS

I WAS WONDERING WHAT OHI MEANT .SEE IF THEIR IS A MH/MR FACILTY NEAR YOU A GOOD ONE WHO GOES INTO DETAILS WITH THE CHILD TO GET HIM A BETTER DIAGNOSIS .RULE OUT AUTISM ,ASPIES,THE REGRESSION ONE I CANT THINK OF THE NAME ,THERE IS MORE BUT MAKE SURE ALL OF IT IS LOOKED AT CLOSELY I AM IN THE PITTSBURGH AREA WE HAVE THE JOHN MERCK CLINIC AND WESTERN PSYCH THEY ARE VERY GOOD AND THEY HAVE BETTER TRAINED PEOPLE ON RECOGNISING AND DIAGNOSING THE SPECTRUM DISORDERS.

I KNOW IT IS FRUSTRATING DONT TAKE IT TO HEART LIKE A PERSONAL ATTACK FROM THE SCHOOL.FIGHT FOR YOUR CHILD AND DONT WORRY ABOUT THEIR RUDENESS .THEY ARE JUST JERKS . FIGHT FOR YOUR SON AND GOOD LUCK WITH IT KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB !!!!!!

Need some advice

Good Morning. I have some issues I am trying to sort out and learn how to present to school and I am really stuck. First of all, my son is 5 and has high functioning autism. He gets occupational therapy from school for fine motor which he is doing awesome. They are working on his writing. And he gets speech therapy about 2 hours per week. Dakota also gets intensive therapy about 20 - 35 hours per week. They were going to school for about 6 hours a week and the rest at home. Dakota is sick a lot. So he misses school. Everytime he is sick I call the doctor and its documented. I kept him home one week for a sinus infection as he was pale. This week he has been home with fevers all week. I took him to the allergist and with the tests they did he didn't have any reactions. They also tested his immune system. We were hoping that would show us something. Nope nothing. I got told yesterday Dakota is one of the unlucky kids who gets sick all the time. I am frustrated as I feel

there is a reason. Well the allergist said his nose looks like he has allergies. I called yesterday because his symptoms got worse. They said he had a virus and a sinus infection so they are treating him with a antibiotic, sudafed and clartin. Fine. Well the point of this email is I got a phone call from the speech therpaist yesterday from school. She starts out Dakota has been missing a lot of school. And he didn't come today. I said that's because he has a fever. I can't send him to school sick. Then she proceeds and says well you know last quarter he missed 18 days. Well that was due to being sick and doctors appointments. Well then she starts asking about the company that does Dakota's therapy. They ask if they are still working with him on his speech and I said yes. She says when he is sick do they work with him. I said only when he doesn't have a fever. She said well if he is well enough for a therapist he is well enough to go to school. I was like excuse me. I said

I will not send him if he is sick. Then she says well he is regressing really bad in his speech. And I said oh no your telling me this when you don't even update me on his progress at all. I already know he is regressing. I talked to the neurologist back in December I think it was and we think it's due to a seizure but we don't know if the damage is permanent or temporary. Well she proceeds to be rude. I told her I don't need the harassment. I told her she was ticking me off and I was hanging up. I felt attacked. I felt it was rude of her. I don't know what they want me to do. I can't send him to school sick. Even his teacher knows how sick he is. So I called the prinicpal. And he starts out saying tha the told the special Ed teachers that the copmany that does the intensive therapy is not allowed to work with him during school hours. I said why are they still at school then. He says I will have to find out. If I have to I will stand out the front doors and not let

them in. I said that's fine as I think Dakota will do better with no one at school. And besides I don't like the therapist at school. She is always nagging at him. So basically he was defending the teacher. He said with the IEP they are contracted to 2 hours a week. I siad look I can't please the county and the school. He said you don't have to please anyone but yourself and your family. He then said if the kid is contaigus don't send him. I told him about the testing that was going on to find out why Dakota was sick all the time. I didn't get them back at that point. So he says wie will tread water until then. Once I get the results I was to call back. I left him a message this morning to call me. The worst that will happen at this point is we will change his IEP. And part of me wants to lower the speech to the minimum because he is sick all the time. I can't gaurentee he will be at school with how sick he gets. I called Dakota's senior therapist once I got off the phone

with him and she contacted the county. Basically what's happening is the principal doesn't want the company in therer to work with Dakota. So the county said that's fine pull him out. We dn' tneed to argue with him at the moment. It's not against the law for them to go to school or to be here at my home during school hours. I think he is making things up. I don't agree with the label the put him on for the IEP. He is labeled OHI because he doesn't meet the autism requirements. I think they are wrong about that. So I am going to write a letter to the county and let them know I awant someone else to come in and observe for one. But what can I do to fight back. What's next they call social services because he is missing so much school. If they do I am not worried as everytime he is home I have contacted the doctor or he has had appointments and everything is documented. How can I fight back at school. I don't know what else to do. Any suggestions.

Stacie

Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business.

[Guest guest]

Schools are under a great deal of pressure to keep track of students -

and have a maximum number of days they allow absences.

Accountability. This makes it difficult to nurse colds and the like -

and explains why kids go to school sick. They have to.

This can be quite inconvenient, but there is no answer. I found that

schools (private and public) are a bit easier on you for attendance

for grades Pre-K-K, but get tougher as they enter first grade. At

some point, you need to decide whether the system can work for you or

whether you'd prefer to opt out (homeschool). There are

advantages/disadvantages to both sides ...

[Guest guest]

Vickie,

I did get an advocate. She is absolutely wonderful and I started the steps I needed to take. Sadly I don't think Dakota will be going to school again tomorrow. He has a double ear infection. The one ear is fire engine red and his blood levels are off. They said he has some kind of virus. The wind chill is suppose to be -25 - -35 tomorrow. Some schools are closing already but as of now not ours. All he did today was lay around. I don't know if they could tutor him. But I am looking into other speech programs I can get him in after school.

OHI is other health impairment. I am fighting to change it to Educational Autism. I have the some good leverage right now with what the neuropsychologist wrote in her work up to get it changed to that. The neuro psychologist was wonderful. She went into great detail. She is diagnosing him with High Functioning Autism. I thought for sure she would look at Aspergers but she didn't and that's ok. I am just happy to have a current diagnosis on where they think he is at this time.

Stacie

-- Re: Need some advice

FIRST OFF GET AN ADVOCATE !!!!! THEY WILL FIGHT AND HELP YOU TRHOUGH THE PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE YOUR SON GETS THE HELP HE NEEDS.SINCE HE IS GETTING DR APPTS AND DR EXCUSES THERE IS NO REASON THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS MISSING SCHOOL YOU HAVE DOCUMENTATION .I WOULD NOT SEND A KID TO SCHOOL SICK AND IF IT IS A CONTAGIOUS THING NO ONE WANTS THE OTHER STUDENTS TO GET SICK. BUT TELL THEM IF U DO SEND HIM THE OTHER KIDS CAN GET IT AND LETS FACE IT WHO WANTS TO DO THINGS WHEN U ARE HACKING UP A LUNG OR HAVE A FEVER GOD THESE SCHOOLS ARE PATHETIC ANYMORE .IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND AND ALSO HAVING THE SCHOOLS ACCOUNTABLE WITH THE KIDS NOT LEARNING OR LEARNING AT A SLOWER RATE THAN THE OTHER SCHOOLS.FUNDING PLAYS A BIG PART IF ONE OR MORE KIDS BRING DOWN THE SCORES OF THE SCHOOL OVER ALL THEY DO NOT GET MORE FUNDING .I DIDNT FIGHT MY SONS OLD SCHOOL TO HAVE HIM IN IT I FOUGHT TO GET HIM IN A SPECIAL SCHOOL IT TOOK A LONG TIME FOR IT FROM K TO 5 TH GRADE I FOUGHT THEY FINALLY HAD TO ADMIT THEY COULDNT TEACH HIM IT TOOK HIS 5 TH GRADE TEACHER (SPECIAL ED)WHO I KNEW A FRIEND OF HERS AND SHE HAD MY OLDEST SON FOR REMEDIAL SAYING TO THEM THEY ARNT DOING RIGHT BY HIM THAT THERE WAS NO WAY SHE CAN REACH HIM HERE IN THIS EVVIRONEMNT WELL HE WAS PLACED IN ANOTHER SCHOOL WELL HE ISNT PERFECT DIDNT DO THIS MASSIVE LEARNING SPREEE BUT HE CAME OUT OF HIS SHELL MORE AND LEARNED MORE THAN HE HAD AT THE OTHER SCHOOL THE FIRST 9 WEEKS ..

FOR YOUR SON IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN HAVE A TUTOR OR A HOME SCHOOL SITUATION WHILE HE IS SICK I KNOW THEY DO IT FOR THE KIDS WHO GET HURT OR WHAT NIOT AND WILL BE ABSENT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME ALSO YOU CAN ALSO GET PRIVATE SPEECH OUT SIDE OF THE SCHOOL SO IF HE MISSED A SPEECH SESSION AT SCHOOL IT WOULDNT BE THAT BAD CUZ HE WOULD STILL HAVE SPEECH OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL..... FOR 2 YEARS I TOOK MY 2 SONS 2 TIMES A WEEK FOR AN HOUR LONG TO SPEECH AND OT OUT SIDE OF THE SCHOOL SO IF THEY WERE BY CHANCE ABSENT ON THEIR SPEECH DAY IT WAS NO BIG DEAL CUS THEY WERE STILL GETTING IT SO THERE IS NO REGRESION FROM MISSED DAYS.

SCHOOLS MOST OF THEM DO NOT WANT TO WORK WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES AND THERE IS USUALLY ALWAYS A PROBLEM BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE AGENCY THAT IS WHERE AN ADVOCATE WOULD COME IN .

DO NOT LET THEM CRITISISE YOU FOR KEEPING HIM HOME .AND MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS IT THE BUSINESS OF THE SPEECH THERAPISTS TO SAY ABOUT HIS DAYS MISSED OF SCHOOL .THAT IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JOB (VIA THE PRINCIPLE /TRUANCY OFFICER) . IT IS NOT THE THERAPISTS OR THE TEACHERS JOB TO CONTACT YOU AT ALL . THE TEACHER COULD ALSO ARRANGE TO HAVE HOMEWORK SENT HOME AND YOU WORK ON IT AT HOME WITH HIM. THERE IS ALWAYS WAYS TO GET AROUND THIS. WITH OUT THEM HAVING TO RESORT TO CRITISING AND MAKING IT SOUND LIKE A LEGALITY/LIABILITY. THEY ARE JUST BEING JERKS

I WAS WONDERING WHAT OHI MEANT .SEE IF THEIR IS A MH/MR FACILTY NEAR YOU A GOOD ONE WHO GOES INTO DETAILS WITH THE CHILD TO GET HIM A BETTER DIAGNOSIS .RULE OUT AUTISM ,ASPIES,THE REGRESSION ONE I CANT THINK OF THE NAME ,THERE IS MORE BUT MAKE SURE ALL OF IT IS LOOKED AT CLOSELY I AM IN THE PITTSBURGH AREA WE HAVE THE JOHN MERCK CLINIC AND WESTERN PSYCH THEY ARE VERY GOOD AND THEY HAVE BETTER TRAINED PEOPLE ON RECOGNISING AND DIAGNOSING THE SPECTRUM DISORDERS.

I KNOW IT IS FRUSTRATING DONT TAKE IT TO HEART LIKE A PERSONAL ATTACK FROM THE SCHOOL.FIGHT FOR YOUR CHILD AND DONT WORRY ABOUT THEIR RUDENESS .THEY ARE JUST JERKS . FIGHT FOR YOUR SON AND GOOD LUCK WITH IT KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB !!!!!!

Need some advice

Good Morning. I have some issues I am trying to sort out and learn how to present to school and I am really stuck. First of all, my son is 5 and has high functioning autism. He gets occupational therapy from school for fine motor which he is doing awesome. They are working on his writing. And he gets speech therapy about 2 hours per week. Dakota also gets intensive therapy about 20 - 35 hours per week. They were going to school for about 6 hours a week and the rest at home. Dakota is sick a lot. So he misses school. Everytime he is sick I call the doctor and its documented. I kept him home one week for a sinus infection as he was pale. This week he has been home with fevers all week. I took him to the allergist and with the tests they did he didn't have any reactions. They also tested his immune system. We were hoping that would show us something. Nope nothing. I got told yesterday Dakota is one of the unlucky kids who gets sick all the time. I am frustrated as I feel there is a reason. Well the allergist said his nose looks like he has allergies. I called yesterday because his symptoms got worse. They said he had a virus and a sinus infection so they are treating him with a antibiotic, sudafed and clartin. Fine. Well the point of this email is I got a phone call from the speech therpaist yesterday from school. She starts out Dakota has been missing a lot of school. And he didn't come today. I said that's because he has a fever. I can't send him to school sick. Then she proceeds and says well you know last quarter he missed 18 days. Well that was due to being sick and doctors appointments. Well then she starts asking about the company that does Dakota's therapy. They ask if they are still working with him on his speech and I said yes. She says when he is sick do they work with him. I said only when he doesn't have a fever. She said well if he is well enough for a therapist he is well enough to go to school. I was like excuse me. I said I will not send him if he is sick. Then she says well he is regressing really bad in his speech. And I said oh no your telling me this when you don't even update me on his progress at all. I already know he is regressing. I talked to the neurologist back in December I think it was and we think it's due to a seizure but we don't know if the damage is permanent or temporary. Well she proceeds to be rude. I told her I don't need the harassment. I told her she was ticking me off and I was hanging up. I felt attacked. I felt it was rude of her. I don't know what they want me to do. I can't send him to school sick. Even his teacher knows how sick he is. So I called the prinicpal. And he starts out saying tha the told the special Ed teachers that the copmany that does the intensive therapy is not allowed to work with him during school hours. I said why are they still at school then. He says I will have to find out. If I have to I will stand out the front doors and not let them in. I said that's fine as I think Dakota will do better with no one at school. And besides I don't like the therapist at school. She is always nagging at him. So basically he was defending the teacher. He said with the IEP they are contracted to 2 hours a week. I siad look I can't please the county and the school. He said you don't have to please anyone but yourself and your family. He then said if the kid is contaigus don't send him. I told him about the testing that was going on to find out why Dakota was sick all the time. I didn't get them back at that point. So he says wie will tread water until then. Once I get the results I was to call back. I left him a message this morning to call me. The worst that will happen at this point is we will change his IEP. And part of me wants to lower the speech to the minimum because he is sick all the time. I can't gaurentee he will be at school with how sick he gets. I called Dakota's senior therapist once I got off the phone with him and she contacted the county. Basically what's happening is the principal doesn't want the company in therer to work with Dakota. So the county said that's fine pull him out. We dn' tneed to argue with him at the moment. It's not against the law for them to go to school or to be here at my home during school hours. I think he is making things up. I don't agree with the label the put him on for the IEP. He is labeled OHI because he doesn't meet the autism requirements. I think they are wrong about that. So I am going to write a letter to the county and let them know I awant someone else to come in and observe for one. But what can I do to fight back. What's next they call social services because he is missing so much school. If they do I am not worried as everytime he is home I have contacted the doctor or he has had appointments and everything is documented. How can I fight back at school. I don't know what else to do. Any suggestions.

Stacie

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Hi Angie,

My son does have athsma. The allergist did say that even though the tests came back negative he could still have allergies. He said that his nose looked like someone who had allergies so we have a plan to work from as far as medicine. The doctor is on my side. She is writing up a note to the school. I did find a advocate and she is wonderful. I know she is going to help me thru this.

Stacie

-- Re: Need some advice

Hi Stacie-

First let me say how sorry I am that you are going

through this frustration when you already have enough

stress in your life! My son used to be sick all the

time. I would say that he is still unlucky when it

comes to illness, but it isn't nearly as bad as it was

before. It is different because he is only three, but

he does receive services through the school district.

I have NEVER had anyone say my son shouldn't receive

services due to illness. They are always supportive

and hope he feels better soon. They are also thankful

I don't subject them and the other kids they are

working with to illness! You can't help it if he

misses school due to illness! You also shouldn't have

to decrease any services when he is healthy because of

this!

My assumption is that this is more about money. If

your speech therapist isn't working with your son due

to illness then that speech therapist could be

assigned to someone else therefor lowering the cost to

the school district. I might be completely off, but

this may have nothing to do with sickness and

everything to do with excuses to get out of providing

proper services. My son receives speech therapy in

school and in home from the school district. There

are many reasons for this, but one of the benefits is

that when he doesn't feel great (but isn't contagious)

he can still get speech therapy (they tone it down and

work at his pace.)

My son had constant URI and ear/sinus infections. In

one year he was on antibiotics 11 times! Then I found

out he had allergies and asthma. I know you said your

son was tested for allergies, but did they test him

for asthma? My son has not had a single ear/sinus

infection since being put on medication. Maybe you

can go into your son's primary care doctor and lay it

all out. Tell the doctor that these illnesses are

having a huge affect on your son's therapy and future.

Then ask what they suggest can be done to help this

little guy. Obviously these illnesses are having a

major affect on his life and should be addressed. I

was told my son was unlucky and then I found out the

poor kid had allergies and was suffering constant low

grade asthma attacks making his life miserable and

making it impossible for him to learn. Hang in there

and don't give up any services you qualify for unless

you think your son doesn't need or truly wont use

them! If you have another IEP meeting have a person

there to support you. If you have a great doctor

maybe they would attend, but anyone that understands

your situation (is on your side) and is diplomatic can

be very helpful! In addition maybe you would even

want to include someone from your son's intensive

therapy to attend.

Good luck!

Angie

--- Stacie <scrapitall54201@...> wrote:

> Good Morning. I have some issues I am trying to sort

> out and learn how to

> present to school and I am really stuck. First of

> all, my son is 5 and has

> high functioning autism. He gets occupational

> therapy from school for fine

> motor which he is doing awesome. They are working on

> his writing. And he

> gets speech therapy about 2 hours per week. Dakota

> also gets intensive

> therapy about 20 - 35 hours per week. They were

> going to school for about 6

> hours a week and the rest at home. Dakota is sick a

> lot. So he misses school

> Everytime he is sick I call the doctor and its

> documented. I kept him home

> one week for a sinus infection as he was pale. This

> week he has been home

> with fevers all week. I took him to the allergist

> and with the tests they

> did he didn't have any reactions. They also tested

> his immune system. We

> were hoping that would show us something. Nope

> nothing. I got told yesterday

> Dakota is one of the unlucky kids who gets sick all

> the time. I am

> frustrated as I feel there is a reason. Well the

> allergist said his nose

> looks like he has allergies. I called yesterday

> because his symptoms got

> worse. They said he had a virus and a sinus

> infection so they are treating

> him with a antibiotic, sudafed and clartin. Fine.

> Well the point of this

> email is I got a phone call from the speech

> therpaist yesterday from school.

> She starts out Dakota has been missing a lot of

> school. And he didn't come

> today. I said that's because he has a fever. I can't

> send him to school sick

> Then she proceeds and says well you know last

> quarter he missed 18 days.

> Well that was due to being sick and doctors

> appointments. Well then she

> starts asking about the company that does Dakota's

> therapy. They ask if they

> are still working with him on his speech and I said

> yes. She says when he is

> sick do they work with him. I said only when he

> doesn't have a fever. She

> said well if he is well enough for a therapist he is

> well enough to go to

> school. I was like excuse me. I said I will not send

> him if he is sick. Then

> she says well he is regressing really bad in his

> speech. And I said oh no

> your telling me this when you don't even update me

> on his progress at all. I

> already know he is regressing. I talked to the

> neurologist back in December

> I think it was and we think it's due to a seizure

> but we don't know if the

> damage is permanent or temporary. Well she proceeds

> to be rude. I told her I

> don't need the harassment. I told her she was

> ticking me off and I was

> hanging up. I felt attacked. I felt it was rude of

> her. I don't know what

> they want me to do. I can't send him to school sick.

> Even his teacher knows

> how sick he is. So I called the prinicpal. And he

> starts out saying tha the

> told the special Ed teachers that the copmany that

> does the intensive

> therapy is not allowed to work with him during

> school hours. I said why are

> they still at school then. He says I will have to

> find out. If I have to I

> will stand out the front doors and not let them in.

> I said that's fine as I

> think Dakota will do better with no one at school.

> And besides I don't like

> the therapist at school. She is always nagging at

> him. So basically he was

> defending the teacher. He said with the IEP they are

> contracted to 2 hours a

> week. I siad look I can't please the county and the

> school. He said you don

> t have to please anyone but yourself and your

> family. He then said if the

> kid is contaigus don't send him. I told him about

> the testing that was going

> on to find out why Dakota was sick all the time. I

> didn't get them back at

> that point. So he says wie will tread water until

> then. Once I get the

> results I was to call back. I left him a message

> this morning to call me.

> The worst that will happen at this point is we will

> change his IEP. And part

> of me wants to lower the speech to the minimum

> because he is sick all the

> time. I can't gaurentee he will be at school with

> how sick he gets. I called

> Dakota's senior therapist once I got off the phone

> with him and she

> contacted the county. Basically what's happening is

> the principal doesn't

> want the company in therer to work with Dakota. So

> the county said that's

> fine pull him out. We dn' tneed to argue with him at

> the moment. It's not

> against the law for them to go to school or to be

> here at my home during

> school hours. I think he is making things up. I

> don't agree with the label

> the put him on for the IEP. He is labeled OHI

> because he doesn't meet the

> autism requirements. I think they are wrong about

> that. So I am going to

> write a letter to the county and let them know I

> awant someone else to come

> in and observe for one. But what can I do to fight

> back. What's next they

> call social services because he is missing so much

> school. If they do I am

> not worried as everytime he is home I have contacted

> the doctor or he has

> had appointments and everything is documented. How

> can I fight back at

> school. I don't know what else to do. Any

> suggestions.

>

> Stacie

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im glad u got an advocate ...wish u much luck with everything you will be going through .take care

Re: Need some advice

Hi Stacie-

First let me say how sorry I am that you are going

through this frustration when you already have enough

stress in your life! My son used to be sick all the

time. I would say that he is still unlucky when it

comes to illness, but it isn't nearly as bad as it was

before. It is different because he is only three, but

he does receive services through the school district.

I have NEVER had anyone say my son shouldn't receive

services due to illness. They are always supportive

and hope he feels better soon. They are also thankful

I don't subject them and the other kids they are

working with to illness! You can't help it if he

misses school due to illness! You also shouldn't have

to decrease any services when he is healthy because of

this!

My assumption is that this is more about money. If

your speech therapist isn't working with your son due

to illness then that speech therapist could be

assigned to someone else therefor lowering the cost to

the school district. I might be completely off, but

this may have nothing to do with sickness and

everything to do with excuses to get out of providing

proper services. My son receives speech therapy in

school and in home from the school district. There

are many reasons for this, but one of the benefits is

that when he doesn't feel great (but isn't contagious)

he can still get speech therapy (they tone it down and

work at his pace.)

My son had constant URI and ear/sinus infections. In

one year he was on antibiotics 11 times! Then I found

out he had allergies and asthma. I know you said your

son was tested for allergies, but did they test him

for asthma? My son has not had a single ear/sinus

infection since being put on medication. Maybe you

can go into your son's primary care doctor and lay it

all out. Tell the doctor that these illnesses are

having a huge affect on your son's therapy and future.

Then ask what they suggest can be done to help this

little guy. Obviously these illnesses are having a

major affect on his life and should be addressed. I

was told my son was unlucky and then I found out the

poor kid had allergies and was suffering constant low

grade asthma attacks making his life miserable and

making it impossible for him to learn. Hang in there

and don't give up any services you qualify for unless

you think your son doesn't need or truly wont use

them! If you have another IEP meeting have a person

there to support you. If you have a great doctor

maybe they would attend, but anyone that understands

your situation (is on your side) and is diplomatic can

be very helpful! In addition maybe you would even

want to include someone from your son's intensive

therapy to attend.

Good luck!

Angie

--- Stacie <scrapitall54201@ sbcglobal. net> wrote:

> Good Morning. I have some issues I am trying to sort

> out and learn how to

> present to school and I am really stuck. First of

> all, my son is 5 and has

> high functioning autism. He gets occupational

> therapy from school for fine

> motor which he is doing awesome. They are working on

> his writing. And he

> gets speech therapy about 2 hours per week. Dakota

> also gets intensive

> therapy about 20 - 35 hours per week. They were

> going to school for about 6

> hours a week and the rest at home. Dakota is sick a

> lot. So he misses school

> Everytime he is sick I call the doctor and its

> documented. I kept him home

> one week for a sinus infection as he was pale. This

> week he has been home

> with fevers all week. I took him to the allergist

> and with the tests they

> did he didn't have any reactions. They also tested

> his immune system. We

> were hoping that would show us something. Nope

> nothing. I got told yesterday

> Dakota is one of the unlucky kids who gets sick all

> the time. I am

> frustrated as I feel there is a reason. Well the

> allergist said his nose

> looks like he has allergies. I called yesterday

> because his symptoms got

> worse. They said he had a virus and a sinus

> infection so they are treating

> him with a antibiotic, sudafed and clartin. Fine.

> Well the point of this

> email is I got a phone call from the speech

> therpaist yesterday from school.

> She starts out Dakota has been missing a lot of

> school. And he didn't come

> today. I said that's because he has a fever. I can't

> send him to school sick

> Then she proceeds and says well you know last

> quarter he missed 18 days.

> Well that was due to being sick and doctors

> appointments. Well then she

> starts asking about the company that does Dakota's

> therapy. They ask if they

> are still working with him on his speech and I said

> yes. She says when he is

> sick do they work with him. I said only when he

> doesn't have a fever. She

> said well if he is well enough for a therapist he is

> well enough to go to

> school. I was like excuse me. I said I will not send

> him if he is sick. Then

> she says well he is regressing really bad in his

> speech. And I said oh no

> your telling me this when you don't even update me

> on his progress at all. I

> already know he is regressing. I talked to the

> neurologist back in December

> I think it was and we think it's due to a seizure

> but we don't know if the

> damage is permanent or temporary. Well she proceeds

> to be rude. I told her I

> don't need the harassment. I told her she was

> ticking me off and I was

> hanging up. I felt attacked. I felt it was rude of

> her. I don't know what

> they want me to do. I can't send him to school sick.

> Even his teacher knows

> how sick he is. So I called the prinicpal. And he

> starts out saying tha the

> told the special Ed teachers that the copmany that

> does the intensive

> therapy is not allowed to work with him during

> school hours. I said why are

> they still at school then. He says I will have to

> find out. If I have to I

> will stand out the front doors and not let them in.

> I said that's fine as I

> think Dakota will do better with no one at school.

> And besides I don't like

> the therapist at school. She is always nagging at

> him. So basically he was

> defending the teacher. He said with the IEP they are

> contracted to 2 hours a

> week. I siad look I can't please the county and the

> school. He said you don

> t have to please anyone but yourself and your

> family. He then said if the

> kid is contaigus don't send him. I told him about

> the testing that was going

> on to find out why Dakota was sick all the time. I

> didn't get them back at

> that point. So he says wie will tread water until

> then. Once I get the

> results I was to call back. I left him a message

> this morning to call me.

> The worst that will happen at this point is we will

> change his IEP. And part

> of me wants to lower the speech to the minimum

> because he is sick all the

> time. I can't gaurentee he will be at school with

> how sick he gets. I called

> Dakota's senior therapist once I got off the phone

> with him and she

> contacted the county. Basically what's happening is

> the principal doesn't

> want the company in therer to work with Dakota. So

> the county said that's

> fine pull him out. We dn' tneed to argue with him at

> the moment. It's not

> against the law for them to go to school or to be

> here at my home during

> school hours. I think he is making things up. I

> don't agree with the label

> the put him on for the IEP. He is labeled OHI

> because he doesn't meet the

> autism requirements. I think they are wrong about

> that. So I am going to

> write a letter to the county and let them know I

> awant someone else to come

> in and observe for one. But what can I do to fight

> back. What's next they

> call social services because he is missing so much

> school. If they do I am

> not worried as everytime he is home I have contacted

> the doctor or he has

> had appointments and everything is documented. How

> can I fight back at

> school. I don't know what else to do. Any

> suggestions.

>

> Stacie

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well i do hope he feels better soon it does suck when ur kids are constantly sick .my sons were like that all the time when they were little it seems they did grow ot of it some but thye also get flu shots (is that somthing maybe he could get every yr to help him not get sick). where u at ?we are in pa and all of our schools are closed in this area like everyone cuz of the cold are high today i think was -3 and we had windchill of -22 ugghhh brrrrrrrr tired of cold come on groundhog get ur prediction happening .well keep him home and dont worry his health comes first ..congrats on the advocate .good luck

Need some advice

Good Morning. I have some issues I am trying to sort out and learn how to present to school and I am really stuck. First of all, my son is 5 and has high functioning autism. He gets occupational therapy from school for fine motor which he is doing awesome. They are working on his writing. And he gets speech therapy about 2 hours per week. Dakota also gets intensive therapy about 20 - 35 hours per week. They were going to school for about 6 hours a week and the rest at home. Dakota is sick a lot. So he misses school. Everytime he is sick I call the doctor and its documented. I kept him home one week for a sinus infection as he was pale. This week he has been home with fevers all week. I took him to the allergist and with the tests they did he didn't have any reactions. They also tested his immune system. We were hoping that would show us something. Nope nothing. I got told yesterday Dakota is one of the unlucky kids who gets sick all the time. I am frustrated as I feel

there is a reason. Well the allergist said his nose looks like he has allergies. I called yesterday because his symptoms got worse. They said he had a virus and a sinus infection so they are treating him with a antibiotic, sudafed and clartin. Fine. Well the point of this email is I got a phone call from the speech therpaist yesterday from school. She starts out Dakota has been missing a lot of school. And he didn't come today. I said that's because he has a fever. I can't send him to school sick. Then she proceeds and says well you know last quarter he missed 18 days. Well that was due to being sick and doctors appointments. Well then she starts asking about the company that does Dakota's therapy. They ask if they are still working with him on his speech and I said yes. She says when he is sick do they work with him. I said only when he doesn't have a fever. She said well if he is well enough for a therapist he is well enough to go to school. I was like excuse me. I said

I will not send him if he is sick. Then she says well he is regressing really bad in his speech. And I said oh no your telling me this when you don't even update me on his progress at all. I already know he is regressing. I talked to the neurologist back in December I think it was and we think it's due to a seizure but we don't know if the damage is permanent or temporary. Well she proceeds to be rude. I told her I don't need the harassment. I told her she was ticking me off and I was hanging up. I felt attacked. I felt it was rude of her. I don't know what they want me to do. I can't send him to school sick. Even his teacher knows how sick he is. So I called the prinicpal. And he starts out saying tha the told the special Ed teachers that the copmany that does the intensive therapy is not allowed to work with him during school hours. I said why are they still at school then. He says I will have to find out. If I have to I will stand out the front doors and not let

them in. I said that's fine as I think Dakota will do better with no one at school. And besides I don't like the therapist at school. She is always nagging at him. So basically he was defending the teacher. He said with the IEP they are contracted to 2 hours a week. I siad look I can't please the county and the school. He said you don't have to please anyone but yourself and your family. He then said if the kid is contaigus don't send him. I told him about the testing that was going on to find out why Dakota was sick all the time. I didn't get them back at that point. So he says wie will tread water until then. Once I get the results I was to call back. I left him a message this morning to call me. The worst that will happen at this point is we will change his IEP. And part of me wants to lower the speech to the minimum because he is sick all the time. I can't gaurentee he will be at school with how sick he gets. I called Dakota's senior therapist once I got off the phone

with him and she contacted the county. Basically what's happening is the principal doesn't want the company in therer to work with Dakota. So the county said that's fine pull him out. We dn' tneed to argue with him at the moment. It's not against the law for them to go to school or to be here at my home during school hours. I think he is making things up. I don't agree with the label the put him on for the IEP. He is labeled OHI because he doesn't meet the autism requirements. I think they are wrong about that. So I am going to write a letter to the county and let them know I awant someone else to come in and observe for one. But what can I do to fight back. What's next they call social services because he is missing so much school. If they do I am not worried as everytime he is home I have contacted the doctor or he has had appointments and everything is documented. How can I fight back at school. I don't know what else to do. Any suggestions.

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It will take time but do a lot of practice homework with him. Going over each problem with him and showing him it's ok to skip and come back to it. I think if he learns to not be so focused on that one problem he will learn how to work on all the homework. Good LuckJerri Perrault <jerrip2001@...> wrote: Last night I had a parent teacher conference. I asked why was my 10.5 year old with Aspergers was coming home and telling me he did not have enough time to finish a assignment. Both

teachers told me that when he gets stumped on a problem he can't just skip it he shuts down until he figures it out. I know this to be true as it has also happened at home during HW. Both teachers and I have tried to teach him that when he does not know the answer just to skip that problem and come back to it later if he has enough time. He can't seem to do this. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to help my son overcome this issue? Thanks Jerri Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. Ally

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Jerri,

I had the same issues with my 9yr old son

AS soon to be 10 in March. I still do have these issues. Be careful that the

teachers are pushing him to far because you may end up with real problems,

anxiety issues, him not liking school or teachers etc. I of all ppl understand

they need to accomplish these task in order to be graded but when you have a

child that doesn’t do the work you have another problem. My son was on

the A-B honor roll, he isn’t currently due to pushing him and not

understanding him. I’m currently wondering what the best thing for us is,

public school vs. Home school.

(I don’t want to go into all about

public schools please read my other posts if your curious)

Although all children are different I can

only tell you my experiences and maybe it will ring a bell. My son hates math,

writing etc. I believe at one time he knew how to do the math and was very

bored. He also knew the answer without showing his work. Now and then he sits

there without doing his work. I can tell you positive reinforcements work. Also

cutting back on the problems he does also worked, he was feeling a bit

overwhelmed with the page full of math problems he hated doing. The thing is what’s

it matter how many problems he does as long as he gets it? Try asking the teacher

and if you have an IEP be sure this makes it into the IEP as well, to only do

odd or even problems., You can always work your way up (without him knowing

this) but start out small. Allow him to read in his idle time between subjects

if he likes reading in order to keep him seated etc. My son reads at college

level and he is allowed to read all he wishes as long as he does A, B and C,

yes it is hard to get him focused when needed but this is always hard if his

heart isn’t in it.

The teacher needs to reward him for doing

x amount of work for instance it needs to be immediate praise, give him a

ticket for so many problems worked. The end of the week let him spend time on

the computer with so many tickets or each ticket is worth 5mint. Computer time

or a various range of things he likes. You may have to provide the school some

sort of treats for him. More importantly start researching and trying to figure

out what the problems maybe. Maybe it’s hand writing, my son has issues

with writing but the school persisted, he still does chicken scratch but I do

believe it actually annoys him to the point of him not caring about what type

of grade he gets etc.

Good Luck

Debs

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Jerri Perrault

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007

4:51 PM

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Jenness Roth;

Subject: Need

some advice

Last night I had a parent teacher conference. I asked why was my

10.5 year old with Aspergers was coming home and telling me he did not have

enough time to finish a assignment. Both teachers told me that when he

gets stumped on a problem he can't just skip it he shuts down until he figures

it out. I know this to be true as it has also happened at home during

HW. Both teachers and I have tried to teach him that when he does not

know the answer just to skip that problem and come back to it later if he has

enough time. He can't seem to do this. Does anyone have any

suggestions on how to help my son overcome this issue?

Thanks

Jerri

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Hi Jerri,

>>Last night I had a parent teacher conference. I asked why was my 10.5

>>year old with Aspergers was coming home and telling me he did not have

>>enough time to finish a assignment. Both teachers told me that when he

>>gets stumped on a problem he can't just skip it he shuts down until he

>>figures it out. I know this to be true as it has also happened at home

>>during HW. Both teachers and I have tried to teach him that when he does

>>not know the answer just to skip that problem and come back to it later if

>>he has enough time. He can't seem to do this. Does anyone have any

>>suggestions on how to help my son overcome this issue?<<

It does no good telling him to do it - he will just not be able to remember

or generalise to that situation. He needs someone to help him move on, so

the teacher needs to keep an eye on him, and when he gets stuck, come

alongside him and remind him to leave it, go on to the next problem.

Having someone to move you on like this is an exam concession here, so

teachers should accept it is a well known issue, and take on that role.

in England

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Hi Jerri,

It might be worth practicing short

questions with a visual reminder. If someone can make him some short questions

which can be answered in a few minutes along with either an egg timer or some

sort of timer that gives a set time e.g. five minutes. He restarts the timer

with each question – when the timer goes he moves on to the next

question. Once he’s able to move on with either a visual or auditory

stimulus he might feel more confident about it being ok to leave questions till

later.

I know that an auditory reminder couldn’t

be used in exams unless he was sitting by himself, but it’s part of exam

technique. With older pupils I’ve used a tactic of working out how many

minutes per mark a question should get so that when they look at the question they

can work out their max time on it to give a fair shot to each question.

If that doesn’t work perhaps they

could cut up a question paper into the individual questions – he could organize

the slips into a pile of ‘easy’, ‘can do with thinking’

and ‘not so sure’. Then if he starts with the’easy’

ones there is a chance he could get through more of the questions with the problem

of forced order removed.

Regards

(the other one)

From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of Rowell

Sent: 24 February 2007 10:05

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Need some advice

Hi Jerri,

>>Last night I had a parent teacher conference. I asked why was my 10.5

>>year old with Aspergers was coming home and telling me he did not have

>>enough time to finish a assignment. Both teachers told me that when he

>>gets stumped on a problem he can't just skip it he shuts down until he

>>figures it out. I know this to be true as it has also happened at home

>>during HW. Both teachers and I have tried to teach him that when he

does

>>not know the answer just to skip that problem and come back to it later

if

>>he has enough time. He can't seem to do this. Does anyone have any

>>suggestions on how to help my son overcome this issue?<<

It does no good telling him to do it - he will just not be able to remember

or generalise to that situation. He needs someone to help him move on, so

the teacher needs to keep an eye on him, and when he gets stuck, come

alongside him and remind him to leave it, go on to the next problem.

Having someone to move you on like this is an exam concession here, so

teachers should accept it is a well known issue, and take on that role.

in England

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Re: Need some advice

Hi Jerri,>>Last night I had a parent teacher conference. I asked why was my 10.5 >>year old with Aspergers was coming home and telling me he did not have >>enough time to finish a assignment. Both teachers told me that when he >>gets stumped on a problem he can't just skip it he shuts down until he >>figures it out. I know this to be true as it has also happened at home >>during HW. Both teachers and I have tried to teach him that when he does >>not know the answer just to skip that problem and come back to it later if >>he has enough time. He can't seem to do this. Does anyone have any >>suggestions on how to help my son overcome this issue?<<It does no good telling him to do it - he will just not be able to remember or generalise to that situation. He needs someone to help him move on, so

the teacher needs to keep an eye on him, and when he gets stuck, come alongside him and remind him to leave it, go on to the next problem.Having someone to move you on like this is an exam concession here, so teachers should accept it is a well known issue, and take on that role. in England

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I have been having some really bad pain in my abdomen sometimes on the right upper and sometimes in the left upper and bad lower back pain that doubles me over.I know I have Crohn's but I dont think it is all from that.It worry's me because my sister died from pancreatic cancer and I dont know the signs of this.When the pain comes it makes me sick at my stomach.Anybody have any ideas? Thanks Jeanne

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--- Carl Rothenberg <carl.rothenberg@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I am having some difficultly combining a aroma. I am

> using the essential of seaweed to give a slight tone

> of being near the ocean. I am not sure which or how

> other essential oils mix with it or if I am just

> barking up the wrong tree to get the desired effect.

> Perhaps there is a better choice of oils to create

> that feeling? Does anyone have advice?

>

> Second, I get essential oils from different sources

> and they all seem to have such a tremendous

> difference in how they blend and even smell although

> they are from the same origin. I am having

> difficultly in combining the scent in my mind with

> the essential oils I order. They commonly have

> significant characteristics that require major

> adjustments in my planned formulation. Do I just

> need a better understanding on differentiating the

> processing of oils or does everyone experience this

> and just know how to work with it?

>

> Lastly, why is it that almost all spa and bath

> products refuse to color outside the lines and

> always use scents like rosemary, lavender and ylang

> ylang?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Any comments, information or advice will be helpful.

>

> carl

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Hi Carl

I can't be of much help with regard to the marine

aroma you're creating. We've discussed the difficulty

of this many times. It's like the quest for the grail.

Some folks have used seaweed with success. I haven't.

No matter how much I diluted it, it smelled of dead

fish to me, even in a blend. You could try Choya Nakh,

which is distilled from seashells, but it is a

" destructive " distillation meaning it ends up with a

very smoky smell in addition to the seashell smell. I

tried tincturing grey sea salt once too, but that

didn't work either.

As to the variablilty of your essences that's just

kinda the nature of the beast with naturals. You have

to kind of re-acquaint yourself with them every time

you order. Your suppliers may change their sources

from time to time. Even the aromatic plants that are

grown in the same region every year can vary because

of environmental factors - weather, soil quality,

altitude etc. (I think this is what they refer to in

winemaking as " terroir " .)

And finally, the reason that spa products often use

the same essences over and over is because they are a

sure thing, in the sense that their customers are

already familiar with them and they know they can sell

them.

Best of luck and happy experimenting!

Patty

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