Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. [Note: this story is breaking on the internet and has not yet been picked up by the main stream media] http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2006/2/1/20940/49383 Homeland Security seizing medications from elderly, former Customs official reports By Bill Conroy, Posted on Wed Feb 1st, 2006 at 08:09:40 PM EST Are grandma and grandpa now the newest targets in an expanding war on drugs? An operation allegedly underway in Miami -- supposedly being spearheaded by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) -- seems to indicate that elderly folks are indeed in the dragnet zone. As part of that operation, CBP, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, is seizing Canadian shipments of legally prescribed drugs that are being flown into the international mail facility at Miami International Airport, according to Mark Conrad, a retired U.S. Customs supervisory special agent. Conrad, now an attorney, serves as the associate general counsel for the National Association of Federal Agents. He says the information about the seizure program was brought to his attention by a whistleblower, who does not want to go public out of fear of retaliation. Officials from CBP's public affairs office in South Florida did not return a phone call from Narco News seeking comment on the operation. The medications being seized, Conrad adds, are bound for delivery to elderly people who have ordered them from Canadian providers. Due to the extremely high cost of many prescription drugs in the United States, many senior citizens cannot afford to pay for their medications, absent ordering the drugs, often over the Internet, from lower-cost Canadian vendors. Although ordering prescription medicines from Canada is technically illegal, U.S. officials have, for the most part, looked the other way in terms of broad enforcement. However, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has previously ordered targeted seizures of prescription drugs shipped from overseas. Hubbard, the FDA's associate commissioner of policy and planning, stated the following in a March 10, 2005, Bloomberg News wire story: The FDA can target particular shipments, Hubbard said. The agency seized about 450 packages in July from [a] Canadian Internet pharmacy, CanadaRx.net, that passed through the Bahamas, Hubbard said. Critics of such seizures say the policy threatens the lives of senior citizens and demonstrates that the U.S. government is carrying water for the pharmaceutical industry. Drug makers see it differently, of course. Jack , a spokesman for the New York-based pharmaceutical conglomerate Pfizer, told Bloomberg News that " the FDA is 'just enforcing US law.' " Conrad says his information on the Miami CBP seizure program is coming from a source with direct knowledge of the operation. He adds that those involved in the seizures have been ordered to assist with the program and also are under orders not to discuss the operation with anyone. He adds that the program has been ongoing for at least three weeks. " Customs in Miami is seizing medications shipped in from Canada, " Conrad says. " Most of this medication is U.S.-made, then shipped to Canada, and is now simply coming back into the country. " Conrad says he is not sure if the seizure operation extends beyond Miami at this time. However, he says the operation was undertaken with no notice to the public. That means senior citizens depending on this medication are unaware that the drugs have been seized. " The [elderly] people who ordered the medication will be getting letters [from the government] informing them that the shipments have been seized, " Conrad says. " They have bins and bins of medicine, some of it live-saving medication. " Conrad says drugs on the hit list include blood-pressure, asthma, antidepressant, heart and cancer medication. " My understanding is that some cancer medication was seized that requires refrigeration, " he adds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 I really worry about the direction the USA is taking these days. cheers Duncan from Canada. > > NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President. > > [Note: this story is breaking on the internet and has not yet been picked up by the main stream media] > http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2006/2/1/20940/49383 > > Homeland Security seizing medications from elderly, former Customs official reports > By Bill Conroy, > Posted on Wed Feb 1st, 2006 at 08:09:40 PM EST > Are grandma and grandpa now the newest targets in an expanding war on drugs? > An operation allegedly underway in Miami -- supposedly being spearheaded by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) -- seems to indicate that elderly folks are indeed in the dragnet zone. > > As part of that operation, CBP, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security, is seizing Canadian shipments of legally prescribed drugs that are being flown into the international mail facility at Miami International Airport, according to Mark Conrad, a retired U.S. Customs supervisory special agent. > > > Conrad, now an attorney, serves as the associate general counsel for the National Association of Federal Agents. He says the information about the seizure program was brought to his attention by a whistleblower, who does not want to go public out of fear of retaliation. > Officials from CBP's public affairs office in South Florida did not return a phone call from Narco News seeking comment on the operation. > > The medications being seized, Conrad adds, are bound for delivery to elderly people who have ordered them from Canadian providers. > > Due to the extremely high cost of many prescription drugs in the United States, many senior citizens cannot afford to pay for their medications, absent ordering the drugs, often over the Internet, from lower-cost Canadian vendors. > > Although ordering prescription medicines from Canada is technically illegal, U.S. officials have, for the most part, looked the other way in terms of broad enforcement. However, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has previously ordered targeted seizures of prescription drugs shipped from overseas. > > Hubbard, the FDA's associate commissioner of policy and planning, stated the following in a March 10, 2005, Bloomberg News wire story: > > > The FDA can target particular shipments, Hubbard said. The agency seized about 450 packages in July from [a] Canadian Internet pharmacy, CanadaRx.net, that passed through the Bahamas, Hubbard said. > Critics of such seizures say the policy threatens the lives of senior citizens and demonstrates that the U.S. government is carrying water for the pharmaceutical industry. > > Drug makers see it differently, of course. Jack , a spokesman for the New York-based pharmaceutical conglomerate Pfizer, told Bloomberg News that " the FDA is 'just enforcing US law.' " > > Conrad says his information on the Miami CBP seizure program is coming from a source with direct knowledge of the operation. He adds that those involved in the seizures have been ordered to assist with the program and also are under orders not to discuss the operation with anyone. He adds that the program has been ongoing for at least three weeks. > > " Customs in Miami is seizing medications shipped in from Canada, " Conrad says. " Most of this medication is U.S.-made, then shipped to Canada, and is now simply coming back into the country. " > > Conrad says he is not sure if the seizure operation extends beyond Miami at this time. However, he says the operation was undertaken with no notice to the public. That means senior citizens depending on this medication are unaware that the drugs have been seized. > > " The [elderly] people who ordered the medication will be getting letters [from the government] informing them that the shipments have been seized, " Conrad says. " They have bins and bins of medicine, some of it live-saving medication. " > > Conrad says drugs on the hit list include blood-pressure, asthma, antidepressant, heart and cancer medication. > > " My understanding is that some cancer medication was seized that requires refrigeration, " he adds. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 I don't mind reading emails on this list BUT when this type of ALARMING information is posted I want to know from what source, and their political leanings is from. Is it a watchdog group with no leanings of extreme. Is it Democratic or Republican in its makeup?? I am a very very senior and need medications for lyme but I question why this is on our list or if more explaination can be contributed from the sender. Thanks Bev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Thank you Dawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Bev, the original post came w/an address so further reading can be done and you can then make up your own mind whether it is true or not. I dont think it really matters if its partisan or bipartisan ( and what news at all is bipartisan anmore anyhow?) what matters is if its truthfull and legitimate. oh, here is that link in case you dont have the original email http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2006/2/1/20940/49383 > I don't mind reading emails on this list BUT when this type of ALARMING > information is posted I want to know from what source, and their political > leanings is from. Is it a watchdog group with no leanings of extreme. Is it > Democratic or Republican in its makeup?? > > I am a very very senior and need medications for lyme but I question why > this is on our list or if more explaination can be contributed from the sender. > > Thanks Bev > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Did the person who bothered to post this ever think to VERIFY whether it is fact or fiction?? Besides, a call for impeaching the president is really not an issue for a LYME disease support group. Why not take your political agenda to a political forum? This is not the place! Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 > Did the person who bothered to post this ever think to VERIFY whether it is > fact or fiction?? Having been a member for many years, I cant even begin to count the posts that are of treatments that 'out there' or so off the mainstream you have to wonder. That post was an info post, it had the link to the main website so the reader could then make their own decisions on its validity. As for the political statement, if you will notice it is a signature and is on all of her emails. If you do not like it then feel free to either set your email to not accept emails from that person, or hit the delete button. There are emails that I find rather, well, not quit offensive but rediculous and since someone else might find them usefull I just ignore them and hit delete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hi Bev, I agree that we should have more informtion, but I do think this is an appropriate post. I have gone outside the country and brought in meds. I wonder if they are being confisgated too? If I need IV's and can't get my insurance to pay for it in the USA, I might go to a foreign country where friends live and have it done. It's amazing how much cheaper meds are in other countries, with the same quality of meds. The USA has the highest cost in the world for pharmaceuticals. I believe whatever the USA market will bear is true in this instance. cooky > > I don't mind reading emails on this list BUT when this type of ALARMING > information is posted I want to know from what source, and their political > leanings is from. Is it a watchdog group with no leanings of extreme. Is it > Democratic or Republican in its makeup?? > > I am a very very senior and need medications for lyme but I question why > this is on our list or if more explaination can be contributed from the sender. > > Thanks Bev > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Dawn and others, This issue has already been rectified. Please understand that I do a lot of my work behind the scenes. =) Robynn [ ] Re: Homeland Security seizing medications from elderly Did the person who bothered to post this ever think to VERIFY whether it is fact or fiction?? Besides, a call for impeaching the president is really not an issue for a LYME disease support group. Why not take your political agenda to a political forum? This is not the place! Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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