Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I am telling you all this as a cautionary tale. You have to careful and read labels really well and it's getting trickier. Your VM smoothie could contain more than you want it to. Thursday I made our usual trip to Costco. I like their fresh fruits and veggies as most are labeled organic and are often fresher than my local grocery (think it is due to the rapid turnover of product). Anyhow, I got organic celery, asparagus, tomatoes and other items. I also picked up some really nice looking Globe grapes. I knew they were from Peru, but there are several products at Costco from Peru which are Organic and you can't get grapes grown in Calif at this time of year. The next morning, having stored stuff and gone to a meeting Thur night, I got the grapes to wash and put in small bags for husband and son to grab (gets them to eat more fruit). I noticed there was in small print on the label-Wash Carefully , grapes treated with fungicide Sulfur Dioxide. I opened the carton to look and when I slid the cardboard sleeve to one side to look, I noticed a sticker which read, Packed Jan 12, 2012. Now, considering Thurs was March 8, I was a bit shocked. The grapes looked fine, fresh as can be.. Needless to say, I took them back to Costco, very unhappy. Now it gets strange. The guy at the returns counter looks and says, Oh, don't worry, I know, they aren't sweet. I said, Nope, that is not it. I said, look they contain Sulfur Dioxide, which is both carcinogenic and very dangerous to asthmatics. He said, no problem, I'll refund your money. I said, Wait, that is not all. Look at this date, under the sleeve, hidden to view until you take the sleeve off (which by implication is not done until you get it home), they were packed in Jan and it's now March! He looks at the label, gets this surprised look and then looks at the grapes and says, How can they be that fresh at that age???? Indulgent I pointed again to the Sulfur Dioxide label and said to him, Do you really want to eat grapes so well preserved that 2 months after they are packed they look this good? He said, Nope, here's your money. Note I said that was the PACKED date, not the pick date, who knows when they were picked. Lesson learned: Read labels better before purchase. Don't trust Peru Grapes (online research reveals that Sulfur Dioxide was outlawed in all fresh food EXCEPT grapes and wine! and is still allowed in dried fruits) Maybe give up grapes until they come back into season here in the USA. Velda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Here is another shocker for you. My mother bought some apples when she was up here visiting recently-just grabbed one randomly out of a bin of normal looking apples (I have yet to convince my mother to go organic-just NOT going to happen) When she started slicing up the apple that night, I became aware of a very chemical, odd, kool aid like grape smell, and even my mother noticed that the smell wasn't normal (I am chemically sensitive, so usually aware of smells that others don't pick up on) She tasted the apple, and said it tasted like grape kool aid-it smelled VILE! We went back to the store, and talked to the produce manager, who informed us they were a " new " type of apple called a grapple, that were " cross bred " with grapes, and he insisted that it was " natrual " grapes. I informed him that GRAPPLES were NOT a cross breed between real grapes, but artificially, chemically, and genetically modified-he was the produce manager and didn't even know this! They had put those nasty things right out with " normal " apples like they belonged there. It looked exactly the same as the apples in the other bins, but here it is totally altered from being anywhere remotely close to " natural " or normal! It is things such as this that lead me to learn to garden and grow my own stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Indeed, it is getting more difficult to find " real food " . Husband just agreed to let me get 2 of the Gardeners Supply self watering plant growing system so we can grow both tomatoes and peppers more easily, without having to practically dynamite the back yard to break through the clay soil. Slowly I am getting him into container gardens so we can grow much more of our own food. Much better that way, then I can go on the porch, pick and make my own smoothies! Velda On 3/10/2012 8:07 PM, wrote: > Here is another shocker for you. My mother bought some apples when she was up here visiting recently-just grabbed one randomly out of a bin of normal looking apples (I have yet to convince my mother to go organic-just NOT going to happen) When she started slicing up the apple that night, I became aware of a very chemical, odd, kool aid like grape smell, and even my mother noticed that the smell wasn't normal (I am chemically sensitive, so usually aware of smells that others don't pick up on) She tasted the apple, and said it tasted like grape kool aid-it smelled VILE! We went back to the store, and talked to the produce manager, who informed us they were a " new " type of apple called a grapple, that were " cross bred " with grapes, and he insisted that it was " natrual " grapes. I informed him that GRAPPLES were NOT a cross breed between real grapes, but artificially, chemically, and genetically modified-he was the produce manager and didn't even know this! They had put those! > nasty things right out with " normal " apples like they belonged there. It looked exactly the same as the apples in the other bins, but here it is totally altered from being anywhere remotely close to " natural " or normal! It is things such as this that lead me to learn to garden and grow my own stuff! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please bookmark these pages: > > /links/ > (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) > > /links/IMPORTANT_VitamixE\ nthusiasts_Membership__001327149393/ > PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 That is a GREAT start! I started out with a few containers on a window sill, never thinking I could possibly make use of my tiny yard that all goes up hill, but I have managed to turn it into enough of a garden to keep me and my veggie daughter in veggies year round. When hubby tastes that nice fresh produce that is WAY better than store bought, he might start viewing that clay yard of yours in a different light! My yard is all clay too...or it WAS! Earthboxes and Aerogardens are other wonderful ways to grow! I started prepping my deck containers today. I use the "lasagna garden" method in my containers, so I have to prepare a few weeks ahead of planting and turning out my farmed worms in to them-good fun!Sent from my iPadOn Mar 10, 2012, at 11:43 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote: Indeed, it is getting more difficult to find "real food". Husband just agreed to let me get 2 of the Gardeners Supply self watering plant growing system so we can grow both tomatoes and peppers more easily, without having to practically dynamite the back yard to break through the clay soil. Slowly I am getting him into container gardens so we can grow much more of our own food. Much better that way, then I can go on the porch, pick and make my own smoothies! Velda On 3/10/2012 8:07 PM, wrote: bins, but here it is totally altered from being anywhere remotely close to "natural" or normal! It is things such as this that lead me to learn to garden and grow my own stuff! > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please bookmark these pages: > > /links/ > (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) > > /links/IMPORTANT__Membership__001327149393/ > PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I would highly recommend “backtoedenfilm.com With his method you can grow your own veggies in your back yard end enjoy real food SharonM in W. WA From: Velda Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: Grape experience in winter in CA Beware of Costco Indeed, it is getting more difficult to find "real food". Husband just agreed to let me get 2 of the Gardeners Supply self watering plant growing system so we can grow both tomatoes and peppers more easily, without having to practically dynamite the back yard to break through the clay soil. Slowly I am getting him into container gardens so we can grow much more of our own food. Much better that way, then I can go on the porch, pick and make my own smoothies!Velda> ------------------------------------>> Please bookmark these pages:>> /links/> (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to)>> /links/IMPORTANT__Membership__001327149393/> PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 , Can you tell us about your " lasagna garden " method in containers. I've heard of the method for regular soil. I have the Gardener's Supply tomato boxes and I have always bought their container mix. Last year I used some organic soil but I think it was too dense for the container, maybe. Or maybe it was just a bad year for tomatoes here but I didn't get much. Would love to hear your container expertise and your worm method too. Thanks! > > bins, but here it is totally altered from being anywhere remotely close to " natural " or normal! It is things such as this that lead me to learn to garden and grow my own stuff! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Please bookmark these pages: > > > > > > /links/ > > > (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) > > > > > > /links/IMPORTANT_VitamixE\ nthusiasts_Membership__001327149393/ > > > PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Sure, happy to share. I keep it super simple. I prefer not to use PRINTED newspaper for my gardens, since I am allergic to soy (ink is soy based) and it contains heavy metals I don't want in my soil, so I get free end rolls from my local press office-they always have plenty to give away (just call yours and ask) I torch my soil with a chefs torch to kill off any weeds or seeds (not necessary, and much caution needed), or I solarize the soil in my solar oven for an afternoon-very easy, much safer to do, lol. I tear off sheets of the end rolls and place those down about halfway in my container, spooning up soil on top of them and mulching in any debris. I then put a handful of my farmed worms in the container, and leave them to do their work (note on worm farming to follow) I then put another layer of folded paper over the whole container, and weigh it down with some rocks-that keeps sunlight off of it long enough to further kill off any weeds. As the paper starts to break down, I pour in compost tea that I make from veggie scraps, and adjust my soil pH with baking soda or other ammendments, if needed. After a couple of weeks, the soil is rich and fully churned by the worms, and ready to plant in. Super easy. I let the worms to all the work. I also use this method in my 4x4 and 5x5 raised beds. For worm farming, all you need is a closed but vented container (5 gallon bucket works fine, but I like the covered storage bins-I just poke some holes in them. I add a handful of worms (can get them at any bait shop, or if you know how to hunt them down in the bottom of your garden) During the winter, just keep the bin in a dark, coolish location-I keep mine in my basement, but it can be anywhere and any size (the bins are not at all smelly, and the worms can't get out if you keep the solil under half way down) I toss in bits of newspaper (usually recycled from my garden-again, UNPRINTED) Once a week, I throw in veggie scraps, egg shells, more paper, etc-the paper they use to make nests with. I check the soil every few days and add water if needed-you want is MOIST, not dripping. If you want to take it a step further, you can put a spout in the bottom of the bin to pour off the rich worm castings (nice way of saying worm poop) as it makes a great fertilizer for houseplants and veggies. I rarely bother to siphon off the castings, unless I have a really huge bin going. I just mix it all in with the soil before I turn the worms out in the spring. Fun little hobby, not messy or gross like I first thought it would be, and WHAT an amazing job those little critters do in the gardens! Amazes me every time. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I would love to do that but we have such a huge yard, it would take years to get enough material to cover the inches thick eden calls for. I am familiar with the Eden method. We have dumped years worth of our own wood chipper materials (trimmings from our trees, grape vines, etc) onto the same area and by the next year it almost disappears into the clay. One area was a depression husband filled with chipped stuff and I checked recently and even after last year it being a pile of chips, it is now less than an inch deep in material and the ground is hard as a rock (nope, not frozen, it's Calif). Our best option for our health situation is containers. I just showed husband a really neat self watering home made system, by a guy in Tx who goes by LDSPREPPER who put together a really nice system from buckets and a few parts, which we think we will do instead of mail order. Velda On 3/11/2012 7:30 AM, sharon wrote: I would highly recommend “backtoedenfilm.com   With his method you can grow your own veggies in your back yard end enjoy real food     SharonM in W. WA  From: Velda Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Re: Grape experience in winter in CA Beware of Costco   Indeed, it is getting more difficult to find "real food". Husband just agreed to let me get 2 of the Gardeners Supply self watering plant growing system so we can grow both tomatoes and peppers more easily, without having to practically dynamite the back yard to break through the clay soil. Slowly I am getting him into container gardens so we can grow much more of our own food. Much better that way, then I can go on the porch, pick and make my own smoothies! Velda> ------------------------------------ > > Please bookmark these pages: > > /links/ > (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) > > /links/IMPORTANT__Membership__001327149393/ > PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 , You are so resourceful!!! Thank you for the explanation. This info will be passed on to my friends who now have my worm bin. When I had a 3 layer worm compost bin I did not succeed so I gave it to them. I must not have kept up the right conditions. I had mold growing in my bin and I'm allergic to mold. Getting the moisture level right was difficult for me. I either had mold or it was so dry the worms went away. I really gave up gardening and I now support my farmers market. :-) You inspire me, though. Picking produce in your own backyard can't be beat. Barb > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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