Re: re: ozone sauna therapy

[Guest guest]

Dear Mike,

Both. Financially, it can become expensive.

3 x $ 40 x 7 = $840 for the first go 'round.

And, hitting the healing crisis can be intense for some people : diarrhea,

headaches,

itchy red rash, insomnia, aches and pains, etc.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Re: re: ozone therapy

> Hello Dr Saul Pressman,

> Below... what do you me by... if you can take it???

> Is it uncomfortable... or affordable????

> Thanks Mike Slvinski

>

> Dear Kat,

>

> Good going!

>

> Go with the ozone sauna. It is the most powerful. 30 minutes if you can

take

> it, three times per week.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

>

> URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

> email: saul@...

[Guest guest]

Or, do the smart thing: buy an ozone sauna. I don't care if it costs as

much as a used car. Walk, if you have to! You will be healthy enough to

do so if you get one -- after you clean out! ;-) That's my plan!

My mother and I are splitting the cost of one of Saul's new units. We

figure the money it will save over the years on doctors, chiropractors,

supplements for problems we won't have, etc. is a lot more than the cost

of the unit.

Then, there's the feeling better that goes with healthier! That's

priceless! If I had to I would get several interested friends to go in

on one. I'd sell my 4X4 and a coupla pistols if I had to! Ever since I

found out what an ozone sauna was and could do, 2 years ago, it has been

a matter of when, not if.

IMO, if you want continued excellent health and control over it, an

ozone sauna is the best way to go at home. It is less expensive than an

HBO unit. And, there are certain stages of certain cancers that

contraindicate HBOT, but I've never heard of any similar

contraindications using an ozone sauna & cupping.

I can't think of anything else in a category with these two modalities.

The closest I can think of is an FIR sauna, which is wonderful, but not

in a class with oxidative therapies. They cost $3400, and naturally, I

want one of those too. ;-)

jim

Saul Pressman wrote:

>

> Dear Mike,

>

> Both. Financially, it can become expensive.

> 3 x $ 40 x 7 = $840 for the first go 'round.

>

--

" Coming events cast their shadows before. " --

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

[Guest guest]

Dear Jim,

There is another aspect to ozone saunas that appeals to many people.

The cost of each treatment is minimal. So many people start treating their

friends and neighbours. After a few months of that, they realize that there

is

a future in this and they start up a clinic. That is why we have 117 clinics

doing

ozone sauna therapy now. And after a few months of helping people regain

their health, they have paid for their equipment.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Re: re: ozone sauna therapy

Or, do the smart thing: buy an ozone sauna. I don't care if it costs as

much as a used car. Walk, if you have to! You will be healthy enough to

do so if you get one -- after you clean out! ;-) That's my plan!

My mother and I are splitting the cost of one of Saul's new units. We

figure the money it will save over the years on doctors, chiropractors,

supplements for problems we won't have, etc. is a lot more than the cost

of the unit.

Then, there's the feeling better that goes with healthier! That's

priceless! If I had to I would get several interested friends to go in

on one. I'd sell my 4X4 and a coupla pistols if I had to! Ever since I

found out what an ozone sauna was and could do, 2 years ago, it has been

a matter of when, not if.

IMO, if you want continued excellent health and control over it, an

ozone sauna is the best way to go at home. It is less expensive than an

HBO unit. And, there are certain stages of certain cancers that

contraindicate HBOT, but I've never heard of any similar

contraindications using an ozone sauna & cupping.

I can't think of anything else in a category with these two modalities.

The closest I can think of is an FIR sauna, which is wonderful, but not

in a class with oxidative therapies. They cost $3400, and naturally, I

want one of those too. ;-)

jim

Saul Pressman wrote:

>

> Dear Mike,

>

> Both. Financially, it can become expensive.

> 3 x $ 40 x 7 = $840 for the first go 'round.

>

--

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Saul,

The form that idea has taken in my mind for the last few months is to

put all of my health machines & gadgets in one room and to rent the room

to friends, allowing them to choose what to use.

If I'm not in the room, don't choose the modality, don't turn it on,

etc. I think authorities would have a hard time proving a case of

practicing without a license. Am I mistaken?

jim

Saul Pressman wrote:

>

> Dear Jim,

>

> There is another aspect to ozone saunas that appeals to many people.

>

> The cost of each treatment is minimal. So many people start treating their

> friends and neighbours. After a few months of that, they realize that there

> is

> a future in this and they start up a clinic. That is why we have 117 clinics

> doing

> ozone sauna therapy now. And after a few months of helping people regain

> their health, they have paid for their equipment.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

>

> URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

> email: saul@...

>

> " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

> them " . - Einstein

>

> Re: re: ozone sauna therapy

>

> Or, do the smart thing: buy an ozone sauna. I don't care if it costs as

> much as a used car. Walk, if you have to! You will be healthy enough to

> do so if you get one -- after you clean out! ;-) That's my plan!

>

> My mother and I are splitting the cost of one of Saul's new units. We

> figure the money it will save over the years on doctors, chiropractors,

> supplements for problems we won't have, etc. is a lot more than the cost

> of the unit.

>

> Then, there's the feeling better that goes with healthier! That's

> priceless! If I had to I would get several interested friends to go in

> on one. I'd sell my 4X4 and a coupla pistols if I had to! Ever since I

> found out what an ozone sauna was and could do, 2 years ago, it has been

> a matter of when, not if.

>

> IMO, if you want continued excellent health and control over it, an

> ozone sauna is the best way to go at home. It is less expensive than an

> HBO unit. And, there are certain stages of certain cancers that

> contraindicate HBOT, but I've never heard of any similar

> contraindications using an ozone sauna & cupping.

>

> I can't think of anything else in a category with these two modalities.

> The closest I can think of is an FIR sauna, which is wonderful, but not

> in a class with oxidative therapies. They cost $3400, and naturally, I

> want one of those too. ;-)

>

> jim

>

--

" Coming events cast their shadows before. " --

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

[Guest guest]

Dear Jim,

You are absolutely correct.

You will be making no diagnosis and no prescription.

They couldn't lay a glove on you.

Your pals are just using your toys -- no problemo!

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Re: re: ozone sauna therapy

> >

> > Or, do the smart thing: buy an ozone sauna. I don't care if it costs as

> > much as a used car. Walk, if you have to! You will be healthy enough to

> > do so if you get one -- after you clean out! ;-) That's my plan!

> >

> > My mother and I are splitting the cost of one of Saul's new units. We

> > figure the money it will save over the years on doctors, chiropractors,

> > supplements for problems we won't have, etc. is a lot more than the cost

> > of the unit.

> >

> > Then, there's the feeling better that goes with healthier! That's

> > priceless! If I had to I would get several interested friends to go in

> > on one. I'd sell my 4X4 and a coupla pistols if I had to! Ever since I

> > found out what an ozone sauna was and could do, 2 years ago, it has been

> > a matter of when, not if.

> >

> > IMO, if you want continued excellent health and control over it, an

> > ozone sauna is the best way to go at home. It is less expensive than an

> > HBO unit. And, there are certain stages of certain cancers that

> > contraindicate HBOT, but I've never heard of any similar

> > contraindications using an ozone sauna & cupping.

> >

> > I can't think of anything else in a category with these two modalities.

> > The closest I can think of is an FIR sauna, which is wonderful, but not

> > in a class with oxidative therapies. They cost $3400, and naturally, I

> > want one of those too. ;-)

> >

> > jim

> >

> --

> " Coming events cast their shadows before. " --

>

> jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

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>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Jim Lambert wrote:

>

> Saul,

>

> The form that idea has taken in my mind for the last few months is to

> put all of my health machines & gadgets in one room and to rent the room

> to friends, allowing them to choose what to use.

>

> If I'm not in the room, don't choose the modality, don't turn it on,

> etc. I think authorities would have a hard time proving a case of

> practicing without a license. Am I mistaken?

Cool, can I come over and play?

[Guest guest]

Saul and Jim and list:

This has been on the list before but is gives a difinitive answer to

this thread. The court system is a word game, choose your words

carefully.

Del Snow

Four Forbidden Words

by Ralph Fucetola III, Esq.

When counseling alternative practitioners, such as nutritionists, I

often find myself cautioning them to watch their language. How the

practitioner presents his or her work to the client is very important,

it lets the client know what to expect from the work, and helps to

elicit the voluntary informed consent which is necessary before the

practitioner can do the work.

What not to say is often as important as what to say. There are a few

words which an alternative practitioner must learn not to use, to avoid

confusing the client, leading them to erroneously believe that you are

practicing medicine, rather than offering an alternative or

complimentary modality.

The four forbidden words are:

* DIAGNOSE,

* PRESCRIBE,

* TREAT

* CURE.

" Diagnose " or, sometimes, " examine " is when an MD or other licensed

profes -sional examines a patient and determines the recognized medical

term for the " disease " or " condition. " Observing is not diagnosis, and

an alternative practitioner can certainly note physical observables,

such as voice frequencies, static response, biological terrain,

nutritional stresses, etc. An alternative practitioner never diagnoses

or uses medical terms which name " diseases " or " conditions, " like

" respiratory infection " for a runny nose or " arthritis " for painful

joints. " Prescribe " is when a licensed professional authorizes specific

medication or treatment in writing. Recommending the use of bioenergies,

herbs, supplements, frequencies, aromas, etc., is not prescribing.

" Treat " is the process of providing drug materials or other recognized

medical treatments for the diagnosed " disease " or " condition. " An

alternative practitioner does not " treat. " Teaching clients how to

change, so that the normal form and function of the body may be

maintained or restored, is not treating. Providing non-drug modalities,

such as sound frequencies, Bioenergetic Nutrition™, body work or massage

is not part of orthodox medical treatment, and may be offered by anyone

who has been trained in, or learned such complimentary wellness

techniques. Recommending supplements to nourish the normal form and

function of the body, and not to " treat " by changing form and function,

is lawful.

" Cure " or " heal " is when the observables (symptoms) from which the

licensed professional deduced a " diagnosis " are no longer observed, and

the patient is said to have been " cured " or " healed " by the authorized

" treatment, " even if the patient is dead a few years latter.

Allowing the normal form and function of the body to be maintained or

regained does not cure anything: if there is a cure, the person healed

him or herself.

So say what you do. You permit the body to find harmony or wellness,

feeding it what it needs for normal form and function, and do not claim

to " treat " —which might just be another way to say, suppress the symptoms

and pretend there has been a " cure " or " healing " . Saying the right

words—and not saying the " wrong " words—goes a long way toward protecting

your right to practice.

Published at: http://pages.prodigy.com/lifespirit.htm

© 1997

All rights reserved. UCC 1-207

Saul Pressman wrote:

>

> Dear Jim,

>

> You are absolutely correct.

> You will be making no diagnosis and no prescription.

> They couldn't lay a glove on you.

> Your pals are just using your toys -- no problemo!

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

>

> URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

> email: saul@...

>

> " The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

> them " . - Einstein

>

> Re: re: ozone sauna therapy

> > >

> > > Or, do the smart thing: buy an ozone sauna. I don't care if it costs as

> > > much as a used car. Walk, if you have to! You will be healthy enough to

> > > do so if you get one -- after you clean out! ;-) That's my plan!

> > >

> > > My mother and I are splitting the cost of one of Saul's new units. We

> > > figure the money it will save over the years on doctors, chiropractors,

> > > supplements for problems we won't have, etc. is a lot more than the cost

> > > of the unit.

> > >

> > > Then, there's the feeling better that goes with healthier! That's

> > > priceless! If I had to I would get several interested friends to go in

> > > on one. I'd sell my 4X4 and a coupla pistols if I had to! Ever since I

> > > found out what an ozone sauna was and could do, 2 years ago, it has been

> > > a matter of when, not if.

> > >

> > > IMO, if you want continued excellent health and control over it, an

> > > ozone sauna is the best way to go at home. It is less expensive than an

> > > HBO unit. And, there are certain stages of certain cancers that

> > > contraindicate HBOT, but I've never heard of any similar

> > > contraindications using an ozone sauna & cupping.

> > >

> > > I can't think of anything else in a category with these two modalities.

> > > The closest I can think of is an FIR sauna, which is wonderful, but not

> > > in a class with oxidative therapies. They cost $3400, and naturally, I

> > > want one of those too. ;-)

> > >

> > > jim

[Guest guest]

Dear Del,

Thanks for keeping us on the straight and narrow with those words of wisdom.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh

URL: http://www.plasmafire.com

email: saul@...

" The problems of today cannot be solved using the same thinking that created

them " . - Einstein

Re: re: ozone sauna therapy

> > > >

> > > > Or, do the smart thing: buy an ozone sauna. I don't care if it costs

as

> > > > much as a used car. Walk, if you have to! You will be healthy enough

to

> > > > do so if you get one -- after you clean out! ;-) That's my plan!

> > > >

> > > > My mother and I are splitting the cost of one of Saul's new units.

We

> > > > figure the money it will save over the years on doctors,

chiropractors,

> > > > supplements for problems we won't have, etc. is a lot more than the

cost

> > > > of the unit.

> > > >

> > > > Then, there's the feeling better that goes with healthier! That's

> > > > priceless! If I had to I would get several interested friends to go

in

> > > > on one. I'd sell my 4X4 and a coupla pistols if I had to! Ever since

I

> > > > found out what an ozone sauna was and could do, 2 years ago, it has

been

> > > > a matter of when, not if.

> > > >

> > > > IMO, if you want continued excellent health and control over it, an

> > > > ozone sauna is the best way to go at home. It is less expensive than

an

> > > > HBO unit. And, there are certain stages of certain cancers that

> > > > contraindicate HBOT, but I've never heard of any similar

> > > > contraindications using an ozone sauna & cupping.

> > > >

> > > > I can't think of anything else in a category with these two

modalities.

> > > > The closest I can think of is an FIR sauna, which is wonderful, but

not

> > > > in a class with oxidative therapies. They cost $3400, and naturally,

I

> > > > want one of those too. ;-)

> > > >

> > > > jim

>

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found

here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher

or health care provider.

>

> You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following

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