Re: anti-inflammatory for disc rupture

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Dear oxyyy,

A disc rupture is serious business.

It can be successfully treated with ozone injections around the disc.

There is a doctor in Vancouver who specializes in this.

If you are interested, email me privately for his number.

Best of Health!

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anti-inflammatory for disc rupture

> anti-inflammatory for disc rupture in neck.

> dont want to take steroids for inflammation. have been tho.

> need to keep inflammation down so i can heal without surgery if

> possible.

> read where SOD might help? wondering if there is lotion to put on

> neck?

> or will peroxide drinking help in long run?

> looking for alternative to keeping inflammation down without drugs!

>

> thanks

>

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>anti-inflammatory for disc rupture in neck.

> dont want to take steroids for inflammation. have been tho.

> need to keep inflammation down so i can heal without surgery if

>possible.

> read where SOD might help? wondering if there is lotion to put on

>neck?

> or will peroxide drinking help in long run?

> looking for alternative to keeping inflammation down without drugs!

>

>thanks

You might want to try Proteolytic enzymes like Papain to break up the Fibrin

that walls of the area, so that fluids can move freely again. I just

listened to an interview with Dr. Cicocke and he said you need to take them

in between meals, and in acute inflamatory state you need to take up to 20

tablets a day for a few days only. Then cut back when inflamation is down.

You might want to check out his book Enzyme Therapies. Not 100% sure of the

spelling of his name.

le

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oxyyy,

I have one of the chinese FIR lamps. A buddy of mine has

herneated disks in his lower back so bad he had to lie in bed for

6 weeks. Couldn't even sit up. MD's wanted to operate. WHen he

came to me he was bent over & shuffling his steps. After 3

60-minute treatments he said, " Jim, thois lamp is healing my

back. He was walking normally. This took place in less than a

week.

The lamps begin at $235, but the good news is you can get the

same thing from the Sun, if you will simply expose the affected

area to the Sun for an hour at a time. Do it every day, and you

will notice some improvement.

jim

oxyyy@... wrote:

>

> anti-inflammatory for disc rupture in neck.

> dont want to take steroids for inflammation. have been tho.

> need to keep inflammation down so i can heal without surgery if

> possible.

> read where SOD might help? wondering if there is lotion to put on

> neck?

> or will peroxide drinking help in long run?

> looking for alternative to keeping inflammation down without drugs!

>

> thanks

>

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I am feeling better, almost over a 2 week earache and my throat is clearing.

I used

my infrared massager on heat and vibrate mode right against the outer ear.

Felt the junk running out my eustasean tube immediately. Did this 3 or 4

times for about 10 minutes each. Nothing else I tried worked - h204, Cs,

etc. I see the light regarding IR. True multidimensional vibrational

medicine at work here. I don't think a fir lamp would match my decor

however, and they are not PC anymore with animal rights and such.

My liver is still plugged, if feel, and believe that's what is making the

toxins back up in me. I Notice just this buildup after ingesting fatty foods

(brain fog, ear popping), but in retrospect it was happening before and I

didn't make the connection. I tried the hulda flush twice and no stones

visited the concert stage? Has anyone had luck with the other flushes, or

should I try hers again. I believe I did the last one prior to the colon

cleanse, which might account for it not working.

Thanks in advance Team Oxyplus,

Matt

From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...>

oxyplusegroups <oxyplusegroups>

Date: Sunday, July 02, 2000 9:11 AM

Subject: Re: anti-inflammatory for disc rupture

|oxyyy,

|

|I have one of the chinese FIR lamps. A buddy of mine has

|herneated disks in his lower back so bad he had to lie in bed for

|6 weeks. Couldn't even sit up. MD's wanted to operate. WHen he

|came to me he was bent over & shuffling his steps. After 3

|60-minute treatments he said, " Jim, thois lamp is healing my

|back. He was walking normally. This took place in less than a

|week.

|

|The lamps begin at $235, but the good news is you can get the

|same thing from the Sun, if you will simply expose the affected

|area to the Sun for an hour at a time. Do it every day, and you

|will notice some improvement.

|

|jim

|

|oxyyy@... wrote:

|>

|> anti-inflammatory for disc rupture in neck.

|> dont want to take steroids for inflammation. have been tho.

|> need to keep inflammation down so i can heal without surgery if

|> possible.

|> read where SOD might help? wondering if there is lotion to put on

|> neck?

|> or will peroxide drinking help in long run?

|> looking for alternative to keeping inflammation down without drugs!

|>

|> thanks

|>

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Wobenzyme (pancreatic enzymes) has several formulations, some which are

specifically designed for inflamed joints. There is a book i have somewhere

written by some physicians who recommend Wobenzyme. Enzymatic Therapy makes a

product called Megazyme which is a good substitute (but without the dozens of

published studies backing Wobenzyme). Wobenzyme is distributed in the US by

Arizona Naturals (i think that's the company... i am certain they are out of

Arizona anyway, the Phoenix area.

Boswellin and curcumin extract combinations are also very helpful. There are

several formulations using these two potent anti-inflammatories. I would also

take MSM and glucosamine sulfate and magnesium ascorbate.

jd

p.s. bromelain... 2000 G.D.U. strength, is another excellent product for

inflammation.

Re: anti-inflammatory for disc rupture

>anti-inflammatory for disc rupture in neck.

> dont want to take steroids for inflammation. have been tho.

> need to keep inflammation down so i can heal without surgery if

>possible.

> read where SOD might help? wondering if there is lotion to put on

>neck?

> or will peroxide drinking help in long run?

> looking for alternative to keeping inflammation down without drugs!

>

>thanks

You might want to try Proteolytic enzymes like Papain to break up the Fibrin

that walls of the area, so that fluids can move freely again. I just

listened to an interview with Dr. Cicocke and he said you need to take them

in between meals, and in acute inflamatory state you need to take up to 20

tablets a day for a few days only. Then cut back when inflamation is down.

You might want to check out his book Enzyme Therapies. Not 100% sure of the

spelling of his name.

le

>

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There's an article that may be of interest on Naturally Vitamin's (the

US distributor of Wobenzym) site:

FIGHT INJURIES WITH ENZYMES

J. Cichoke

M.A., D.C., D.A.C.B.N.

http://www.naturallyvitamins.com/html/library2.html and yes, they ARE

in Arizona.

Otherwise you can go to the main Mucos site (the manufacturer) in

Germany. Unfortunately, it has been changed since last time I visited it

and navigation is a bit tricky, as clicking on most things leads to dead

ends. Unless you read German, the only way you can get to the articles

is by clicking on " Czech and Russian, " where (surprise-surprise!) you

are then given a choice of English. If you click on " Scientific

Information, " you will find a wealth of articles.

http://www.mucos.de/

http://www.mucos.cz/eng/Default.htm

Wobenzym is available from www.vitaminshoppe.com and

www.seacoastvitamins.com

Lana

Re: anti-inflammatory for disc rupture

> Wobenzyme (pancreatic enzymes) has several formulations, some which

are specifically designed for inflamed joints. There is a book i have

somewhere written by some physicians who recommend Wobenzyme. Enzymatic

Therapy makes a product called Megazyme which is a good substitute (but

without the dozens of published studies backing Wobenzyme). Wobenzyme

is distributed in the US by Arizona Naturals (i think that's the

company... i am certain they are out of Arizona anyway, the Phoenix

area.

>

> Boswellin and curcumin extract combinations are also very helpful.

There are several formulations using these two potent

anti-inflammatories. I would also take MSM and glucosamine sulfate and

magnesium ascorbate.

>

> jd

>

> p.s. bromelain... 2000 G.D.U. strength, is another excellent product

for inflammation.

>

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MAtt,

Ms. states you can't get many stones with a flush unless

you deparisitize first. My personal experiments after reading

this bear out her assertion. You can do it with a $25 zapper or

$35 worth of herbs. She recommends the San Francisco Self Help

herb store, as freshness of the herbs is paramount to

effectiveness.

For those that don't realize it, infra-red lamps are not even

similar to far infra-red lamps. on the lower end of the broad

spectrum there is visible light, infra-red, middle infra-red, far

infra-red, then microwaves. Far infra-red (FIR) is an

electromagnetic radiation, no a visible one. Our cells produce

it. We also store it from the Sun. It it known to trigger

cellular responses, such as immune/healing things, & expand

micro-capillary circulation.

I assume you already knew that, MAtt. Humor is a sure sign of

recovery. ;-)

jim

Matt Curtin wrote:

>

> I am feeling better, almost over a 2 week earache and my throat is clearing.

> I used

> my infrared massager on heat and vibrate mode right against the outer ear.

> Felt the junk running out my eustasean tube immediately. Did this 3 or 4

> times for about 10 minutes each. Nothing else I tried worked - h204, Cs,

> etc. I see the light regarding IR. True multidimensional vibrational

> medicine at work here. I don't think a fir lamp would match my decor

> however, and they are not PC anymore with animal rights and such.

>

> My liver is still plugged, if feel, and believe that's what is making the

> toxins back up in me. I Notice just this buildup after ingesting fatty foods

> (brain fog, ear popping), but in retrospect it was happening before and I

> didn't make the connection. I tried the hulda flush twice and no stones

> visited the concert stage? Has anyone had luck with the other flushes, or

> should I try hers again. I believe I did the last one prior to the colon

> cleanse, which might account for it not working.

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Thanks Jim,

I recall the parasite business now. I did make a zapper and it seems to be

beneficial as well.

I also suspected FIR was a higher freq. than IR, but I haven't seen a chart

of freqs for a long time. I was having a discussion at a party with a few

engineers (clueless) and trying to figure out which freqs. were used by

different apparatus, such as microwave, Cellular. etc. It appears the higher

frequencies are harmful whereas the lower ones are beneficial. Somehow I

believe they also map to the Chakras, with the lowest red and the highest

violet.

For example the " zapper " is around 30khz, and I think the cellular is in

megahertz somewhere. Do you know where to get a chart, and what is your

opinion of the above. If I am correct in the above hypothesis, then a device

you could wear or keep with that would translate harmful radiation to

beneficial would be a good thing. My knowledge of this area is cursors

still, but I am interested in learning about it. I sense a lot of the EMF's

we are exposed to are harmful. I would like to also determine how to measure

this, as there is a cell tower on top of my bdg.

BTW: Sense of humour has returned along with the libido!!! Did you catch the

" fir/FIR " joke " ?

Peace,

Matt

|

|Ms. states you can't get many stones with a flush unless

|you deparisitize first. My personal experiments after reading

|this bear out her assertion. You can do it with a $25 zapper or

|$35 worth of herbs. She recommends the San Francisco Self Help

|herb store, as freshness of the herbs is paramount to

|effectiveness.

|

|For those that don't realize it, infra-red lamps are not even

|similar to far infra-red lamps. on the lower end of the broad

|spectrum there is visible light, infra-red, middle infra-red, far

|infra-red, then microwaves. Far infra-red (FIR) is an

|electromagnetic radiation, no a visible one. Our cells produce

|it. We also store it from the Sun. It it known to trigger

|cellular responses, such as immune/healing things, & expand

|micro-capillary circulation.

|

|I assume you already knew that, MAtt. Humor is a sure sign of

|recovery. ;-)

|

|jim

|

|Matt Curtin wrote:

|>

|> I am feeling better, almost over a 2 week earache and my throat is

clearing.

|> I used

|> my infrared massager on heat and vibrate mode right against the outer

ear.

|> Felt the junk running out my eustasean tube immediately. Did this 3 or 4

|> times for about 10 minutes each. Nothing else I tried worked - h204, Cs,

|> etc. I see the light regarding IR. True multidimensional vibrational

|> medicine at work here. I don't think a fir lamp would match my decor

|> however, and they are not PC anymore with animal rights and such.

|>

|> My liver is still plugged, if feel, and believe that's what is making the

|> toxins back up in me. I Notice just this buildup after ingesting fatty

foods

|> (brain fog, ear popping), but in retrospect it was happening before and I

|> didn't make the connection. I tried the hulda flush twice and no stones

|> visited the concert stage? Has anyone had luck with the other flushes, or

|> should I try hers again. I believe I did the last one prior to the colon

|> cleanse, which might account for it not working.

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