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Hi everyone,

I think I'm feeling the same way as Kathy R. at the end of this day. It's hard

to be in this state of chronic change and always trying to be prepared as we

deal with our OCDers.

andra is in the midst of an increase in her Prozac. Last week it was great,

really helping her depression. This week, Dana's words describe her behavior

best: over-excited, way too

exuberant, mouthy, impertinent and obnoxious. She is calling us names and

screaming words that a five-year-old considers really naughty, such as fart.

And she's delighted with herself!!

All this and we're still less than halfway toward the dose that her doctor

thinks will start to work on the OCD. My thoughts are with all of you and I

wish I was going to the conference in May.

We decided not to go for financial reasons and am now starting to regret that

decision.

Take care,

Lesli

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Dana Carvalho wrote:

> From: Dana Carvalho <clayvon@...>

>

> My daughter's behavior worsened on Luvox. Some people notice this at first

and then it gets better so it's probably worth it to try it at least for awhile.

We tried it for too long, 5

> months, because her doctor blew off my concerns that the Luvox might be

causing the over-excited, way too exhuberant, impertinent, mouthy and obnoxious

behavior she started exhibiting at home

> and at school, and instead sent us to a therapist to deal with " pre-adolescent

mother-daughter issues " . What a waste of time and money not to mention worry !

Anyway, I decided ($600 later)

> to stop the Luvox and she changed back to her old sweet self. Now she takes

Paxil and it's worked well for her. But I know other people have had success

with Luvox so I'm not saying it's

> not worth giving it a chance; just sharing my experience.

> Dana in NC

>

> Mahida@... wrote:

>

> > From: Mahida@...

> >

> > Hi everyone. My name is allie and i have a 9 yr. old son with ocd. he also

> > has a very mild case of touretts. does any one have this problem too? if so

I

> > would like to hear from you. we have tried several medications and now my

son

> > is on luvox for the ocd. it works so so, not great. his behavior seems to

> > have gotten worse, and I was wondering if any of your childrens behavoir

> > worsened, due to the meds. I was also wonderin g if anyone knows of any

> > support groups for children with ocd, in palm beach county, florida.

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Hi,I'm so up set when I read about these children and the way the drugs are

making them;WHY doesn't the doctor see it I think they should ALL have to

spent some time on a list like this and read letters from all these

parents.This many people can NOT be wrong.When Klyee was upped to 75mg. of

Zolft I saw the same behavior you have been talking about.We took her to a

new DR. he added adhd and added more meds.AT that point I couldn't find

my e.Her teacher Never saw ADHD till she got up to 100mg.of Zolft. (Now

whats wrong with this picture.)e's ocd symptoms where still there,and I

had a child that was hard to like.Last week I took her down to 50 mg. of

Zolft.,and I'm starting to see more of my e.The teacher saw it right

away. CAN WE BOTH BE WRONG? She is with her 3hrs every day I'm with her the

rest of the time,(Her symptoms are still the same ,but her behavior is SO

much better.Stand your ground ,when you see things change,I think OCD is

getting blamed for allot of what Meds. are causing. Thanks Beth

Re: meds and behavior

> From: Masoud Molaei <desk@...>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I think I'm feeling the same way as Kathy R. at the end of this day. It's

hard to be in this state of chronic change and always trying to be prepared

as we deal with our OCDers.

>

> andra is in the midst of an increase in her Prozac. Last week it was

great, really helping her depression. This week, Dana's words describe her

behavior best: over-excited, way too

> exuberant, mouthy, impertinent and obnoxious. She is calling us names and

screaming words that a five-year-old considers really naughty, such as fart.

And she's delighted with herself!!

>

> All this and we're still less than halfway toward the dose that her doctor

thinks will start to work on the OCD. My thoughts are with all of you and I

wish I was going to the conference in May.

> We decided not to go for financial reasons and am now starting to regret

that decision.

>

> Take care,

> Lesli

> desk@...

>

>

>

>

>

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Zoloft made my daughter over-excited but not mouthy and impertinent, and only

slightly obnoxious. Then she started having crying spells for no apparent

reason. This happened two days in a

row and I had to go and pick her up from school early. It wasn't like an OCD

" meltdown " . In fact she was almost detached from it, she said " jeez it would be

nice to make it through a day

without crying " in a slightly amused and puzzled tone. We stopped the zoloft.

Good luck in court tomorrow, I'm sorry you have to deal with that.

Oh, and I have an OCD husband too and I LOVE having a garage! It keeps stuff out

of the house and he's a neat freak too. In a way it's great because I have ADHD

and I just leave stuff out a

little too long and he cleans it right up, files it labels it....whatever...all

in the garage.

Dana

W. Birk wrote:

> From: " W. Birk " <wb4@...>

>

> Lesli, Dana, others,

>

> >>This week, Dana's words describe her behavior best: over-

> excited, way too exuberant, mouthy, impertinent and obnoxious. <<

>

> This is also a discription of my 9 year old. She has been on

> 100mg Zoloft for a month now, and at home she is more confrontive,

> angry and her swear words are much more graphic!! At school, her

> teacher says she is more productive, focused, etc, but to be honest,

> I have my doubts.

> Has anyone had these kind of side effects from zoloft??

>

> Aside from that, my 13 year old had her efexor increased this

> week. She can't get over how productive she has been today. She must

> have completed 4 different subjects of homework which took hours, did

> not break into tears even once - and is proud of herself!! Let's just

> hope that she sleeps tonight, which is our goal for increasing her

> meds!!

>

> My husband has been hoarding insolation. Today he put it in the

> garage, to insulate it. Sounds ok, but he also has put up racks on

> every wall to hang all his important tools, extra equipment, winter

> supplies, etc. It looks like a Canadian Tire Store!!

>

> tomorrow we go to court with our son. He was charged with

> assaulting an officer when he was pushed to touch something that he

> 'couldnt' touch - and instead pushed the officer out of his way...

>

> Living in this ocd household truly never has a dull moment!

>

> take care all - one day at a time, eh?

>

> wendy in canada

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Hi Lesli:

Your desciption of Xana's BSE's from Prozac reminded me a lot of Steve,

except with him it was physical as well as verbal. I have always regretted

how fast we titrated him up on his Paxil since we were trying to get a

handle on his depression. When I compare that to how gradually and

carefully we titrated him down I wish we had been slower on the way up.

Perhaps with the liquid Prozac you can increase this very slowly and have

less BSEs. (noodles@...) on the OCD-L is a seasoned expert

at liquid Prozac and the gradual approach. You might want to contact her

for some useful input.

Take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

kathyh@...

>From: Masoud Molaei <desk@...>

>

>Hi everyone,

>

>I think I'm feeling the same way as Kathy R. at the end of this day. It's

>hard to be in this state of chronic change and always trying to be

>prepared as we deal with our OCDers.

>

>andra is in the midst of an increase in her Prozac. Last week it was

>great, really helping her depression. This week, Dana's words describe

>her behavior best: over-excited, way too

>exuberant, mouthy, impertinent and obnoxious. She is calling us names and

>screaming words that a five-year-old considers really naughty, such as

>fart. And she's delighted with herself!!

>

>All this and we're still less than halfway toward the dose that her doctor

>thinks will start to work on the OCD. My thoughts are with all of you and

>I wish I was going to the conference in May.

>We decided not to go for financial reasons and am now starting to regret

>that decision.

>

>Take care,

>Lesli

>desk@...

>

>

>

>

>

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I recently discovered that Paxil comes in a liquid too, so this is another drug

that can be increased gradually if necessary.

Dana in NC

Kathy Hammes wrote:

> From: kathyh@... (Kathy Hammes)

>

> Hi Lesli:

>

> Your desciption of Xana's BSE's from Prozac reminded me a lot of Steve,

> except with him it was physical as well as verbal. I have always regretted

> how fast we titrated him up on his Paxil since we were trying to get a

> handle on his depression. When I compare that to how gradually and

> carefully we titrated him down I wish we had been slower on the way up.

> Perhaps with the liquid Prozac you can increase this very slowly and have

> less BSEs. (noodles@...) on the OCD-L is a seasoned expert

> at liquid Prozac and the gradual approach. You might want to contact her

> for some useful input.

>

> Take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

> kathyh@...

>

> >From: Masoud Molaei <desk@...>

> >

> >Hi everyone,

> >

> >I think I'm feeling the same way as Kathy R. at the end of this day. It's

> >hard to be in this state of chronic change and always trying to be

> >prepared as we deal with our OCDers.

> >

> >andra is in the midst of an increase in her Prozac. Last week it was

> >great, really helping her depression. This week, Dana's words describe

> >her behavior best: over-excited, way too

> >exuberant, mouthy, impertinent and obnoxious. She is calling us names and

> >screaming words that a five-year-old considers really naughty, such as

> >fart. And she's delighted with herself!!

> >

> >All this and we're still less than halfway toward the dose that her doctor

> >thinks will start to work on the OCD. My thoughts are with all of you and

> >I wish I was going to the conference in May.

> >We decided not to go for financial reasons and am now starting to regret

> >that decision.

> >

> >Take care,

> >Lesli

> >desk@...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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HI Dana:

Thanks for the reminder. Actually Steve had a prescription for the liquid

form as he was titrating down off his Paxil. Unfortunately just five days

before he was due to go to 5 mg and we were going to fill the liquid

prescription, his depression came back and so we had to up him back up to

20 mg. His psychiatrist reassured us that he may yet be able to go down

when the issues of puberty are behind him. Actually on 20 mg he is so much

more alert, happy and functional than he was on the 60 mg. Aloha, Kathy (H)

kathyh@...

At 06:41 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote:

>From: Dana Carvalho <clayvon@...>

>

>I recently discovered that Paxil comes in a liquid too, so this is another

drug that can be increased gradually if necessary.

>Dana in NC

>

>Kathy Hammes wrote:

>

>> From: kathyh@... (Kathy Hammes)

>>

>> Hi Lesli:

>>

>> Your desciption of Xana's BSE's from Prozac reminded me a lot of Steve,

>> except with him it was physical as well as verbal. I have always regretted

>> how fast we titrated him up on his Paxil since we were trying to get a

>> handle on his depression. When I compare that to how gradually and

>> carefully we titrated him down I wish we had been slower on the way up.

>> Perhaps with the liquid Prozac you can increase this very slowly and have

>> less BSEs. (noodles@...) on the OCD-L is a seasoned expert

>> at liquid Prozac and the gradual approach. You might want to contact her

>> for some useful input.

>>

>> Take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

>> kathyh@...

>>

>> >From: Masoud Molaei <desk@...>

>> >

>> >Hi everyone,

>> >

>> >I think I'm feeling the same way as Kathy R. at the end of this day. It's

>> >hard to be in this state of chronic change and always trying to be

>> >prepared as we deal with our OCDers.

>> >

>> >andra is in the midst of an increase in her Prozac. Last week it was

>> >great, really helping her depression. This week, Dana's words describe

>> >her behavior best: over-excited, way too

>> >exuberant, mouthy, impertinent and obnoxious. She is calling us names and

>> >screaming words that a five-year-old considers really naughty, such as

>> >fart. And she's delighted with herself!!

>> >

>> >All this and we're still less than halfway toward the dose that her doctor

>> >thinks will start to work on the OCD. My thoughts are with all of you and

>> >I wish I was going to the conference in May.

>> >We decided not to go for financial reasons and am now starting to regret

>> >that decision.

>> >

>> >Take care,

>> >Lesli

>> >desk@...

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Sorry, somebody has probably answered this question already. We switched our

7 year old just last week to Luvox from 100mg Zoloft for the same reasons. I

was

told by the Doctors that one of the side effects of Zoloft is anger etc, however

I have

my doubts that this was the reason. She had been on this dose for over a year

and

just recently had this problem. I think that her body is changing and that is

the reason.

If you just started Zoloft then certainly this could be a side effect of the

medication.

Good Luck.

W. Birk wrote:

> From: " W. Birk " <wb4@...>

>

> Lesli, Dana, others,

>

> >>This week, Dana's words describe her behavior best: over-

> excited, way too exuberant, mouthy, impertinent and obnoxious. <<

>

> This is also a discription of my 9 year old. She has been on

> 100mg Zoloft for a month now, and at home she is more confrontive,

> angry and her swear words are much more graphic!! At school, her

> teacher says she is more productive, focused, etc, but to be honest,

> I have my doubts.

> Has anyone had these kind of side effects from zoloft??

>

> Aside from that, my 13 year old had her efexor increased this

> week. She can't get over how productive she has been today. She must

> have completed 4 different subjects of homework which took hours, did

> not break into tears even once - and is proud of herself!! Let's just

> hope that she sleeps tonight, which is our goal for increasing her

> meds!!

>

> My husband has been hoarding insolation. Today he put it in the

> garage, to insulate it. Sounds ok, but he also has put up racks on

> every wall to hang all his important tools, extra equipment, winter

> supplies, etc. It looks like a Canadian Tire Store!!

>

> tomorrow we go to court with our son. He was charged with

> assaulting an officer when he was pushed to touch something that he

> 'couldnt' touch - and instead pushed the officer out of his way...

>

> Living in this ocd household truly never has a dull moment!

>

> take care all - one day at a time, eh?

>

> wendy in canada

>

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