Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount ofartificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems.After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer,and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used,were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume morethan 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became sopopular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount ofartificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems.After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer,and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used,were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume morethan 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became sopopular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I don't trust Splenda or any of the other artificial ones. They trick your body and actually make you hold onto weight instead of losing it. Not to mention the headaches and other horrible symptoms they cause. Plus, I trust what the natural health studies show, not what conventional doctors tell you. They just want you to stay sick so they can collect your money. Eat healthy, stay away from ANYTHING artificial, and you will be much better off! ~katie > > Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. > > •Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I have read several times recently that artificial sweetners trick you into maintaining a high level of desire for sweet and super sweet foods, yet provide no calories, therefore make you want to eat more to make up the calories, often by eating more sweet foods because you crave the sweet. It's a never ending battle of wanting more sweet. VElda On 1/28/2012 3:41 PM, Kat Rat wrote: > I don't trust Splenda or any of the other artificial ones. They trick your body and actually make you hold onto weight instead of losing it. Not to mention the headaches and other horrible symptoms they cause. Plus, I trust what the natural health studies show, not what conventional doctors tell you. They just want you to stay sick so they can collect your money. Eat healthy, stay away from ANYTHING artificial, and you will be much better off! ~katie > > >> Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. >> >> •Robbin > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please bookmark these pages: > > /links/ > (this is the Links page where I save the answers to FAQs and Answers, Recipes, and LOTS of other helpful information - this page is always being added to) > > /links/IMPORTANT_VitamixE\ nthusiasts_Membership__001327149393/ > PLEASE DON'T UNSUBSCRIBE IF YOU ARE GETTING TOO MUCH MAIL! (if you unsubscribe, you will lose access to the Links page - an Encyclopedia of Collected Vitamix Wisdom! Go to this link to learn how to stop mail from coming, but STILL be a member of the group so you can STILL visit the Links page and read messages online! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 the only thing i use now is stevia... Patti From: Kat Rat <katratvet@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:41 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda I don't trust Splenda or any of the other artificial ones. They trick your body and actually make you hold onto weight instead of losing it. Not to mention the headaches and other horrible symptoms they cause. Plus, I trust what the natural health studies show, not what conventional doctors tell you. They just want you to stay sick so they can collect your money. Eat healthy, stay away from ANYTHING artificial, and you will be much better off! ~katie > > Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. > > •Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Well, except that its well known that the corporations who produce these toxics pay for the main studies that “prove†their safety. And, believe it or not, these companies are not required to publish ALL the studies, like for instance the ones that show the toxicity. They’re allowed to just publish and cite the favorable ones and keep the others hushed up. Also, what with the truly staggering burden of toxic chemicals we are all subjected to these days, it may not take a lot of splenda to provide the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Neil From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:27 PM To: Subject: Re: About Splenda FDA has " poo poo " the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda " Granules " . Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, " flnancy1958 " <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 My sentiments EXACTLY, Neil! We are inundated with artificial and chemical stuff all day, every day, so I figure if we actually have a choice about what we CONSUME into our body, then we are better off. I avoid anything artificial or chemical-there are always better options from whole foods.Sent from my iPadOn Jan 28, 2012, at 7:37 PM, "Neil Rhoads" <neilinthegarden@...> wrote: Well, except that its well known that the corporations who produce these toxics pay for the main studies that “prove†their safety. And, believe it or not, these companies are not required to publish ALL the studies, like for instance the ones that show the toxicity. They’re allowed to just publish and cite the favorable ones and keep the others hushed up. Also, what with the truly staggering burden of toxic chemicals we are all subjected to these days, it may not take a lot of splenda to provide the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Neil From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:27 PM To: Subject: Re: About Splenda FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turkobstetrician"Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels:Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day).Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it.Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount ofartificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems.After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer,and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used,were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume morethan 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became sopopular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. Velda On 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi.  However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful??  Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda   Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote:  FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular.  From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda  http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx  Good information about splenda.            Lucille   From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh                      cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules".                       Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a                       matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And                       yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when                        chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so.                                                                                                             From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix  I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote:  A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 One Dr in a lecture said when he went to med school, they only had 4 hours of nutrition. Anyone with arthritic? I take "New Zealand Green lip mussels". They make an extract from them in a capsule. It works real good for me. Lucille From: Velda Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. VeldaOn 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PMSubject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PMSubject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 For a time a few years ago I sold a green powder product (gave it up as I felt it was way too expensive). One of the gals I met had a recurring breast cancer. Her doctors tried to tell her NOT to drink any of those "weird" green drinks as they might interfere with her treatment. They told her that same day to get her affairs in order as she would not iive more than six weeks. She ignored them. She drank her Green drink several times a day. She lived another two years, and more important to her, her quality of life was good almost to the end, where the doctors had promised her only a drug induced haze for her last six weeks. We all learned from her during that two years. The doctors did not mean any "harm" they simply, esp in this litigious climate, would rather play safe and say "don't do that" than ,give it a try, to protect their own living. Some few "rebels" such as Weil and Mercola and others whose names escape me at moment, will continue their studies and encourage patients to use their own instincts and combine medical with nutritional info to get the best possible outcome. Velda On 1/28/2012 5:48 PM, Berry wrote: Sadly, YES, an obstetrician would okay it...but they shouldn't!  Remember, they used to "okay" smoking, drinking, and thalidomide for pregnant women.  MOST doctors have absolutely no training in nutrition, and are often wrong in what they recommend, to pregnant patients or otherwise.  Choosing to consume such things is of course a personal choice, but it doesn't hurt to do your own research and draw your own conclusions about it.  Certainly don't count on what the FDA allows in our food!  They are okay with a certain number of rat hairs and poisons in everything too, so proceed at your own risk as far as they go! Sent from my iPad On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote:  I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi.  However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful??  Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda   Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote:  FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular.  From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda  http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx  Good information about splenda.            Lucille   From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh                      cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules".                       Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a                       matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And                       yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when                        chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so.                                                                                                             From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix  I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote:  A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 They probably would OK it because most likely they are reading the studies funded by the manufacturers same as they go by the studies provided by the drug company reps when they prescribe so many medications which ultimately prove to be unsafe! Just my opinion. Fran In a message dated 1/28/2012 8:07:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pilgrimbrooks@... writes: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PMSubject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PMSubject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 When asked if diet soda is safe to drink, while pregnant: Melinda dietitianYes, as long as you don't overdo the caffeine, which you'll want to limit to 200 mg per day.The non-nutritive sweeteners used in these drinks are considered safe, especially if you're drinking them in moderation. If you like these drinks, you can allow yourself a can or two a day, but make sure you're also drinking water, milk, and 100 percent fruit juice for hydration and nutrition. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda One Dr in a lecture said when he went to med school, they only had 4 hours of nutrition. Anyone with arthritic? I take "New Zealand Green lip mussels". They make an extract from them in a capsule. It works real good for me. Lucille From: Velda Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. VeldaOn 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PMSubject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PMSubject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Good for you! I love it when a doctor actually pays attention to what the patient did that worked! Even better when they want to apply it to future patients. We, as nurses, know what is needed to help healing. Velda On 1/28/2012 8:39 PM, Robbin wrote: Velda, I agree. I too am an RN and can not believe how little docs know. My son had a pylenoidal cyst and had surgery on it. The surgeon said " do not do anything to the dressing " he wante us to see him in two weeks. I took his dressing off, gave him zinc daily 15mg, vitamin c 250 mg twice daily, two protein shakes a day and astralligus. Two weeks later the surgeon was amazed. We needed no other follow up. He made me write down what I gave him to eat and drink. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote:  The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. Velda On 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi.  However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful??  Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda   Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote:  FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular.  From: Lucille <lschacht@...> To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda  http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx  Good information about splenda.            Lucille   From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh                      cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules".                       Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a                       matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And                       yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when                        chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so.                                                                                                             From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix  I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote:  A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Click Here for a great video on aspartame.---------------------Rene Oswald, RN, APHBest Beginnings, Inc. Living Food Classes & Consultationswww.rawfoodrene.comwww.reneoswald.com561-775-4867From: Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...>" " < >Sent: Sun, January 29, 2012 2:36:30 AMSubject: Re: About Splenda When asked if diet soda is safe to drink, while pregnant: Melinda dietitianYes, as long as you don't overdo the caffeine, which you'll want to limit to 200 mg per day.The non-nutritive sweeteners used in these drinks are considered safe, especially if you're drinking them in moderation. If you like these drinks, you can allow yourself a can or two a day, but make sure you're also drinking water, milk, and 100 percent fruit juice for hydration and nutrition. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda One Dr in a lecture said when he went to med school, they only had 4 hours of nutrition. Anyone with arthritic? I take "New Zealand Green lip mussels". They make an extract from them in a capsule. It works real good for me. Lucille From: Velda Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. VeldaOn 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PMSubject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PMSubject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 This is a great topic for the Off Topic Vitamix Enthusiasts list - OffTopic/(there is no approval process to join…)I am well aware of the goals of the "elites"… Blessings,Lea Ann SavageSatellite Beach, FL(321) 773-7088 (home)(321-961-9219 (cell)))><'>www.VitamixLady.comwww..com<))>< On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:46 AM, Lucille wrote: It get worst Pat. this is just the beginning. Look for a you tube video with bill gates and what he's putting tons of money for genocide. He and his wife are with a group of elites wanting to reduce the world's population by 90%. They will sterilize our kids with vaccines. There's a lot more but I won't get into it now. Lucille From: Pat Keller Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:36 AM Cc: Subject: Re: About Splenda I did the math on Splenda as well don't be fooled by what you read, I switched to organic stevia that I know is safe and it's not a modified chemical...watch the Movie called Food Inc. plus along with the testimony of a dear friend who is a chemist for a very Large food company tells us all not to eat any processed foods as the big processed food co are sleeping in bed with the pharmaceutical company's to make our food taste good the chemicals like a drug keep you craving for more and the drug company makes the drug to counteract the effects of those chemicals and the government supports the pharmaceutical co (FDA) etc. because it's not about us it's all about the money..most Dr.s are in it for the money they get paid whether you live or die some Dr.s truly care about people You just have to look a little harder they are out there and they do care. but we are so use to living in a world that puts up a good front for mankind and we have a hard time believing otherwise...just saying...as your journey continues into healthier choices you will start to see what a deceptive world we live in...Read the China Study by Dr. T Colin ..what an eye opener...living a plant based food lifestyle and loving it..best of luck in your journey for truth.Sent from my iPad On Jan 28, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Robbin <diciacco1@...> wrote: Velda, I agree. I too am an RN and can not believe how little docs know. My son had a pylenoidal cyst and had surgery on it. The surgeon said " do not do anything to the dressing " he wante us to see him in two weeks. I took his dressing off, gave him zinc daily 15mg, vitamin c 250 mg twice daily, two protein shakes a day and astralligus. Two weeks later the surgeon was amazed. We needed no other follow up. He made me write down what I gave him to eat and drink. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote: The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. VeldaOn 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PMSubject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PMSubject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AMSubject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose.An occasional treat.>> Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I have read the many posts on Splenda and wanted to share that I have seen the research about the effect it has on your brain and typically makes people desire more sweets. It only makes sense to use whole food for sweeteng. Bananas, dates prunes in a vitamix provide typically enough sweetness. For those of you that love your sodas and milk, both cause acidic conditions and will leech calcium out of your bones, there is research on people not rats showing this. > > > > Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. > > > > •Robbin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Not to get persnickity, but that response alone shows the dieticians ignorance about recommending soda, when she says it is okay to " have a can or TWO a day " . Most people don't realize that a " serving size " in a can of soda is less than one half of the can-the " servings per can " label on the back of a can shows that it is 2.5, meaning that the nutrition info (calories, sugars, etc) is based on that amount PER serving-not the entire can. I use a Sodastream home soda maker to make wonderful soda-you can buzz up some fresh ginger, dates, agave nectar, berries, etc. in the Vitamix to make your own flavoring, then carbonate plain water in the Sodastream to add to it, avoiding the sugars, chemicals, or preservatives in canned soda. I think there are others on the list that use the Sodastream too. I sometimes see them on ebay and Amazon, or you can see them at http://www.mymealmasters.com in the webstore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Lucille Thanks I saw that just plain crazy o e of the reasons I trashed my laptop and switched to Apple products I won't give that crazy man any of my money to use... I totally hate how the government is so deceiving but it goes to show you how lazy many people are that they will lay down and except this information and do nothing about it ugh what a crazy and twisted world we live in...There is another movie that is good called Blue Gold about our water let me know if you watch it what you think.. Have a blessed day Lucille :-)Sent from my iPhone 29:11On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:46 AM, "Lucille" <lschacht@...> wrote: It get worst Pat. this is just the beginning. Look for a you tube video with bill gates and what he's putting tons of money for genocide. He and his wife are with a group of elites wanting to reduce the world's population by 90%. They will sterilize our kids with vaccines. There's a lot more but I won't get into it now. Lucille From: Pat Keller Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:36 AM Cc: Subject: Re: About Splenda I did the math on Splenda as well don't be fooled by what you read, I switched to organic stevia that I know is safe and it's not a modified chemical...watch the Movie called Food Inc. plus along with the testimony of a dear friend who is a chemist for a very Large food company tells us all not to eat any processed foods as the big processed food co are sleeping in bed with the pharmaceutical company's to make our food taste good the chemicals like a drug keep you craving for more and the drug company makes the drug to counteract the effects of those chemicals and the government supports the pharmaceutical co (FDA) etc. because it's not about us it's all about the money..most Dr.s are in it for the money they get paid whether you live or die some Dr.s truly care about people You just have to look a little harder they are out there and they do care. but we are so use to living in a world that puts up a good front for mankind and we have a hard time believing otherwise...just saying...as your journey continues into healthier choices you will start to see what a deceptive world we live in...Read the China Study by Dr. T Colin ..what an eye opener...living a plant based food lifestyle and loving it..best of luck in your journey for truth.Sent from my iPad On Jan 28, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Robbin <diciacco1@...> wrote: Velda, I agree. I too am an RN and can not believe how little docs know. My son had a pylenoidal cyst and had surgery on it. The surgeon said " do not do anything to the dressing " he wante us to see him in two weeks. I took his dressing off, gave him zinc daily 15mg, vitamin c 250 mg twice daily, two protein shakes a day and astralligus. Two weeks later the surgeon was amazed. We needed no other follow up. He made me write down what I gave him to eat and drink. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote: The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. VeldaOn 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PMSubject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PMSubject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...>" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I, too, am a Nurse ( 30 yrs Med/Surg ). I never stopped being surprised,when the Docs would ask me, what I thought "We" should do, LOL! From: Velda <solomon@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:51 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda Good for you! I love it when a doctor actually pays attention to what the patient did that worked! Even better when they want to apply it to future patients. We, as nurses, know what is needed to help healing. Velda On 1/28/2012 8:39 PM, Robbin wrote: Velda, I agree. I too am an RN and can not believe how little docs know. My son had a pylenoidal cyst and had surgery on it. The surgeon said " do not do anything to the dressing " he wante us to see him in two weeks. I took his dressing off, gave him zinc daily 15mg, vitamin c 250 mg twice daily, two protein shakes a day and astralligus. Two weeks later the surgeon was amazed. We needed no other follow up. He made me write down what I gave him to eat and drink. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote: The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. Velda On 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've enjoyed the spirited "Debate" on splenda.Forgive me for being deceptive, but I thought it wasa novel way to bring all the misinformation to people. P.S. Knowing what I know, I still have 1 or 2 diet Pepsia month, and, make my cranberry sauce 2 to 3 times a year. From: Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> " " < > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:28 AM Subject: Re: About Splenda I, too, am a Nurse ( 30 yrs Med/Surg ). I never stopped being surprised,when the Docs would ask me, what I thought "We" should do, LOL! From: Velda <solomon@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:51 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda Good for you! I love it when a doctor actually pays attention to what the patient did that worked! Even better when they want to apply it to future patients. We, as nurses, know what is needed to help healing. Velda On 1/28/2012 8:39 PM, Robbin wrote: Velda, I agree. I too am an RN and can not believe how little docs know. My son had a pylenoidal cyst and had surgery on it. The surgeon said " do not do anything to the dressing " he wante us to see him in two weeks. I took his dressing off, gave him zinc daily 15mg, vitamin c 250 mg twice daily, two protein shakes a day and astralligus. Two weeks later the surgeon was amazed. We needed no other follow up. He made me write down what I gave him to eat and drink. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Velda <solomon@...> wrote: The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. Velda On 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi. However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful?? Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote: FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx Good information about splenda. Lucille From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules". Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so. From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote: A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Very interesting video. I can say that I got a metallic taste that lasted several days after each time I tried Aspartame (I am not a slow learner but wanted to be sure what was causing the problem, which , at first I did not attribute to the sweetener). I also got Migraine headaches from even a packet in ice tea. I watch carefully to make sure I don't ingest foods containing Aspartame. Velda On 1/29/2012 12:54 AM, Rene Oswald wrote: Click Here for a great video on aspartame. --------------------- Rene Oswald, RN, APH Best Beginnings, Inc. Living Food Classes & Consultations www.rawfoodrene.com www.reneoswald.com 561-775-4867 From: Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> To: " " < > Sent: Sun, January 29, 2012 2:36:30 AM Subject: Re: About Splenda  When asked if diet soda is safe to drink, while pregnant:  Melinda dietitian Yes, as long as you don't overdo the caffeine, which you'll want to limit to 200 mg per day. The non-nutritive sweeteners used in these drinks are considered safe, especially if you're drinking them in moderation. If you like these drinks, you can allow yourself a can or two a day, but make sure you're also drinking water, milk, and 100 percent fruit juice for hydration and nutrition. From: Lucille <lschacht@...> To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda  One Dr in a lecture said when he went to med school, they only had 4 hours of nutrition. Anyone with arthritic?   I take "New Zealand Green lip mussels".   They make an extract from them in a capsule.  It works real good for me.             Lucille From: Velda Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda The sad fact, of which I became aware as a Nurse (RN) many years ago, is, doctors do not generally get as much nutritional training as a nurse does in their schooling. So, I think it is quite possible, unless the OB has taken extra training on nutrition, that they are as mislead as the rest of us on stuff such as artificial sweeteners. I took several Nutrition classes in school then continued my learning in the area over the past 41 years since graduation, and yet I still feel I am learning each day. Velda On 1/28/2012 5:07 PM, Carrol Ganoe wrote: I prefer water, tea, or lemonade, but, once in awhile I enjoy a diet Pepsi.  However would an Obstetrician be okaying it, for pregnant women, if it was that awful??  Turk obstetrician "Diet sodas often contain both caffeine and an artificial sweetener. There are several types of artificial sweeteners you may see on nutrition labels: Aspartame (NutraSweet): Seems to be okay when consumed in moderation (the amount found in one or two 12-ounce servings of soda per day). Saccharin (Sweet'n Low): Saccharin was found to cause birth defects in laboratory rats when consumed in very high amounts. Because its safety in smaller amounts is hard to prove, I would advise avoiding it. Sucralose (Splenda): This relatively new sweetener, a modified form of regular table sugar, appears to be safe. But because it hasn't been extensively studied, it's best used in moderation." From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: Re: About Splenda   Diet sodas leech calcium from your bones. It keeps you craving sweets. The sweetener is not healthy. The cans are aluminum. Water or tea for better health. •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Carrol Ganoe <pilgrimbrooks@...> wrote:  FDA has "poo poo" the claims because of the amount of artificial sweetner (given the rats) it took, to cause problems. After diet sodas came out, there was a loud alarm about cancer, and, all kinds of other medical problems the sweeteners used, were causing in rats. But, a human would have to consume more than 200 sodas a day, for years, to equal ( pound for pound) the amount the rats were given. The same thing happened a few years after saccrine became so popular.  From: Lucille <lschacht@...> To: Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:25 PM Subject: About Splenda  http://www.womentowomen.com/healthyweight/splenda.aspx  Good information about splenda.            Lucille   From: Carrol Ganoe Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 3:56 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix Hmmmm, I make fresh cranberry sauce, using splenda, this does sound good! If interested: 1 orange with half the peel removed, one bag of fresh                      cranberries, 1 Gala apple and 1/3 cup Splenda "Granules".                       Using tamper, quickly advance VitaMix to speed 10. In a                       matter of seconds you have fresh cranberry sauce. And                       yes I do use 1/2 of the orange, orange rind. It's best when                        chilled in fridg. for an hour, or so.                                                                                                             From: Robbin <diciacco1@...> To: " " < > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Re: Your most favorite recipe in your vitamix  I love cranberry sauce and this does sound yummy as an occasional treat. Thanks for both posts •Robbin On Jan 28, 2012, at 8:43 AM, "flnancy1958" <flnancy1958@...> wrote:  A really good one, not so healthy is a can of cranberry sauce and a can of pineappe with some coconut flakes. Delicious but a bit bad because of the fructose. An occasional treat. > > Can you post it here? Your go to recipe. > > •Robbin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 My headaches started when the Coke company added the aspartame to the saccharin in TAB back when I was 12. I had severe headaches and the doctors couldn't figure out why. I heard about the side effects of aspartame and quit drinking pop all together and BOOM!, my headaches went away!!! Haven't had a drop since. ~katrat (no longer katie because there are too many of us on this list!) > > Very interesting video. I can say that I got a metallic taste that > lasted several days after each time I tried Aspartame (I am not a slow > learner but wanted to be sure what was causing the problem, which , at > first I did not attribute to the sweetener). I also got Migraine > headaches from even a packet in ice tea. > I watch carefully to make sure I don't ingest foods containing Aspartame. > Velda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I had a violent allergic to aspartame when it first came out and was given to me in a medication! I have avoided all artificial sweeteners since-dont ever want to experience such a thing again. I know it was the aspartame, as I had taken the medicine previously, but reacted only after they changed the formula and added aspartame. Since the hospital had a record of the reaction, when I needed a barrium swallow for a test a year later, I had to DRINK the barrium ENEMA solution to avoid the aspartame-same stuff in both I guess, but they don't " flavor " what goes in the other end, lol. > > > > Very interesting video. I can say that I got a metallic taste that > > lasted several days after each time I tried Aspartame (I am not a slow > > learner but wanted to be sure what was causing the problem, which , at > > first I did not attribute to the sweetener). I also got Migraine > > headaches from even a packet in ice tea. > > I watch carefully to make sure I don't ingest foods containing Aspartame. > > Velda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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