Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 there are many etiologies for acute asthma. it would be helpful to post some relevant information, such as, where you live, your age, pets in the house, history of similar problems, smokers?, etc. charles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 john, you may want to consider colonics, reduced protein, esp. meat, lemon water, liver cleanse with milk thistle and dandelion root, lots of green veggies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Hi , I'm sure Saul would have some good information. Here are a couple of " remedies " sites in the meantime: http://www.drmorrow.com/cgi-bin/health.asp and http://www.healthproducts.cc/remedies.htm When I think of asthma I flash on someone in the house baking (may not be true in your case). I have read that asthma is really a digestive problem. I used to get rid of my winter bronchitis with lots of raw broccoli until one winter where respiratory viruses were rampant in my area, and then it seemed that nothing got rid of it. I must have survived. This last winter I didn't get the chronic bronchitis, so all the herbs and nutraceuticals I have taken must have been good for something. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh > Saul, does this mean a chiropractor? I have been wondering. . . J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Dear , Cheapest method : Boil some water on the stove. Put a few ounces of H2O2 in it. Place a towel over your head and in front of your face to trap the rising steam off the pot, and inhale. Be careful not to let the towel catch fire on the stove (not recommended on gas stoves!). A few drops of 3% H2O2 in the ears will help as well. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... asthma and bronchitis > My wife and I both have come down with > acute asthma and bronchitis. Does anyone on the list have some good usuable > ideas? > We are miserable. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Best friends, most artistic, class clown Find 'em here: > 1/4054/5/_/507288/_/960216243/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Arkansas river valley, sinus allergies for me, but my sinuses are fine this time. Good nutrition and we're both healthy. This hit us hard. Judie couldn't breath and she has no history of asthma. I ascribe it to allergies since she's been out in the yard, but it's strange for both of us to be hit so hard at the same time. Mine is just in my throat but I'm running a low grade fever. Judie has none. We went to Branson last week. I mention this only because the water is so soft I usually feel bad after showering there several days. > there are many etiologies for acute asthma. > it would be helpful to post some relevant information, such as, where you > live, your age, pets in the house, history of similar problems, smokers?, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 > Dear , > > Cheapest method : Boil some water on the stove. Put a few ounces of H2O2 in > it. Place a towel over your head and in front of your face to trap the > rising steam off the pot, and inhale. > > Be careful not to let the towel catch fire on the stove (not recommended on > gas stoves!). > > A few drops of 3% H2O2 in the ears will help as well. I did use the H2O2 in the ears last night. Thanks for the warning because I'm so clumsy I could start a fire even with an electric stove! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 , I use 1 fat (or 2 regular) pillows to raise my head and to keep from gasping for breath at night. Also, I have heard dairy products contribute to respiratory problems and create phlegm so I stay away from them. We sometimes use a vaporizer at night, and you can add H2O2 to the water. This was mentioned in Ed McCabe's book in the section about Dr. Donsbach. Good luck! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > beMANY! has a new way to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on > saving more each month: Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance > rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! > 1/3821/5/_/507288/_/960224956/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information > we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. > Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take > responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold > yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here > without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or > health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Thanks, Judie responds to colonics but it's been several years since she had one. We need to find a good person for that in the area of Little Rock to Fort . > john, > you may want to consider colonics, reduced protein, esp. meat, lemon water, > liver cleanse with milk thistle and dandelion root, lots of green veggies. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > beMANY! has a new way to save big on your phone bill -- and keep on > saving more each month: Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance > rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! > 1/3821/5/_/507288/_/960224956/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Thanks, J, I put these under favorites and will review the information. We are taking good nutrition but may learn of something here that may help. > I'm sure Saul would have some good information. Here are a couple of > " remedies " sites in the meantime: > http://www.drmorrow.com/cgi-bin/health.asp > and http://www.healthproducts.cc/remedies.htm > When I think of asthma I flash on someone in the house baking (may not > be true in your case). I have read that asthma is really a digestive > problem. I used to get rid of my winter bronchitis with lots of raw > broccoli until one winter where respiratory viruses were rampant in my > area, and then it seemed that nothing got rid of it. I must have > survived. This last winter I didn't get the chronic bronchitis, so all > the herbs and nutraceuticals I have taken must have been good for > something. J. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Free @Backup service! Click here for your free trial of @Backup. > @Backup is the most convenient way to securely protect and access > your files online. Try it now and receive 300 MyPoints. > 1/4935/5/_/507288/_/960220178/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 asthma and bronchitis > My wife and I both have come down with > acute asthma and bronchitis. Does anyone on the list have some good usuable > ideas? > We are miserable. > If you're really miserable call up Tom. About $300 for the inhalation unit. http://members.tripod.com/~healingtools/thn2.html http://www.oxytherapy.com/oxyfiles/oxy00347.html http://members.tripod.com/~healingtools/OIT.html http://www.oxytherapy.com/oxyfiles/oxy00373.html http://www.o3zone.com/ozoneser/articles/022.htm http://members.tripod.com/~healingtools/linksi.html#inhal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Price wrote: > > My wife and I both have come down with > acute asthma and bronchitis. Does anyone on the list have some good usuable > ideas? > We are miserable. > : Canola oil can cause asthma like symptoms. Any foods with wye or casein including gelatin capsules can also set these symptoms off. Cooking with any oils will give you a more difficult time breathing.... Some random thoughts from someone who had asthma for a number of years but is breathing fine as you read these words. Del Snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 > you may want to consider colonics, reduced protein, esp. meat, lemon water, > liver cleanse with milk thistle and dandelion root, lots of green veggies. WIth all Judie has been through recently, she is due some milk thistle, she even had to have a cortisone shot because she couldn't breath. I think her body had been maxed out with stress, because she was recovering from poison ivy and a brown recluse bite also. Normally, she is a picture of health. Now she has a migraine from all the coughing. Strangely, I mentioned to someone this morning about being in Branson for three days, and he said every time he went up there to visit relatives, he got sick. I wonder... Judie has had to take a Z-pak and now she is coughing up green infection. Last night was the first night she slept normally. She hasn't ever been sick like this before. You know, folks, we normally know what to do for ourselves, but this hit her so fast that we had to get MD help. Thanks though for the suggestions. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 > I use 1 fat (or 2 regular) pillows to raise my head and to keep from gasping > for breath at night. > > Also, I have heard dairy products contribute to respiratory problems and > create phlegm so I stay away from them. She had to " sleep " in the recliner for three nights. She is not much for dairy products. Last night she did sleep with extra pillows. P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Price wrote: > > > you may want to consider colonics, reduced protein, esp. meat, lemon > water, > > liver cleanse with milk thistle and dandelion root, lots of green veggies. > > WIth all Judie has been through recently, she is due some milk > thistle, she even had to have a cortisone shot because she > couldn't breath. I think her body had been maxed out with stress, > because she was recovering from poison ivy and a brown recluse > bite also. Normally, she is a picture of health. > > Now she has a migraine from all the coughing. > Strangely, I mentioned to someone this morning > about being in Branson for three days, and he said every time he went > up there to visit relatives, he got sick. I wonder... > > Judie has had to take a Z-pak and now she is coughing > up green infection. Last night was the first night she > slept normally. She hasn't ever been sick like this before. > > You know, folks, we normally know what to do for > ourselves, but this hit her so fast that we had to get > MD help. Thanks though for the suggestions. > > P : I have read that you can neutralize a brown recluse bite in a matter of minutes by one jolt from an electromagnetic stun gun or a cattle prod jolt right on the point of the bite. I have not used this technique on my self but have read two articles about research using this technique and it completely neutralizes brown recluse or rattle snake bites. The pharmaceutical method allows the body to go through hell for several weeks as your body fights off not only the angry protein from the spider but the reaction to the pharm.assault. Sorry to hear about this painful situation. Del Snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 Dang, Del! I don't think even Judie is that tough! LOL JP > > I have read that you can neutralize a brown recluse bite in a matter of > minutes by one jolt from an electromagnetic stun gun or a cattle prod > jolt right on the point of the bite. I have not used this technique on > my self but have read two articles about research using this technique > and it completely neutralizes brown recluse or rattle snake bites. The > pharmaceutical method allows the body to go through hell for several > weeks as your body fights off not only the angry protein from the spider > but the reaction to the pharm.assault. > > Sorry to hear about this painful situation. > > Del Snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 , The info below that either an electromagnetic pulse or a high voltage will neutralize a bite makes me think it would be worth a try to use virtually any high intensity electric or EM modality. My chiropractor has several pieces of equipment that would be worth trying. Isn't a diathermy machine radio waves? Personally I would also try an AC shock. When I was 11 years old, living in Mexico City, I wired amplifiers for a friend with a TV repair shop. He taught me how to safely use electricity. To make his point, he taught me to make sure I wasn't grounded, then he exposed two bare wire ends that were hot with 120. I touched them with my thumb & 1st finger for 1-2 seconds. This limits the path of the AC to a harmless area, i.e. NOT THROUGH THE HEART OR BRAIN! I used this technique every morning for several years to wake up without drinking coffee. It is the fastest pick-me-up you can get! If I had the spiderbite, I would rig up 2 hot wires with a momentary switch, apply the ends to the skin on either side of the bite (assuming it is in a safe area) and zap it. NOTICE TO LITIGIOUS IDIOTS WHO MIGHT TRY THE ABOVE, MAKE A MISTAKE, THEN CONSIDER SUING ME. MY LAWYER IS 45..... CALIBER! jim " H.SNOW " wrote: > : > I have read that you can neutralize a brown recluse bite in a matter of > minutes by one jolt from an electromagnetic stun gun or a cattle prod > jolt right on the point of the bite. -- When frustrated, lunge, choke & dismember! -- Penny Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 how do you unground yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 Date sombody who has many unresolved life issues. |how do you unground yourself? | | | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 jdklein, I commend your tenacity in deleting extraneous portions of the document to which you are answeering, thereby saving bandwidth and creating self-cleaned archives. But, please leave enough so we know that to which you are referring. ;-) jim oxyplus moderator jdklein wrote: > > how do you unground yourself? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 And..... the winner is: Matt Curtin.... for tongue-in-the-cheek-of-the-week! ;-) jim Matt Curtin wrote: > > Date sombody who has many unresolved life issues. > > |how do you unground yourself? > -- When frustrated, lunge, choke & dismember! -- Penny Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2000 Report Share Posted June 11, 2000 : Toughness is required if you get bit by a Brown Recluse. This is one of the most painful spider bites known and it is the spread of a protein in the venom through the body that causes pain reactions. One jolt from a stun gun at the point of injury ends the problem therewith. Now, can you give me an updated definition tough ? It sounds as though there is some other kind of bite there, the Brown Recluse can drop a Texas cowboy into a pool of his own tears and the flesh will rot around the point of bite for about an inch and there is no pharm. solution that will clean it up for several months. I'll take the jolt and send the pharm. gang else where. I hope Judie is doing well without any jolt but keep this information handy anyway. It doesn't take just a stun gun, any decent passage of electrons through the area of the bite will neutralize black widow, brown recluse, rattle snake, corral snake etc! I am hoping someone has identified the particular frequency that will neutralize this form of venom and then a less shocking treatment will be available. Del Snow Price wrote: > > Dang, Del! I don't think even Judie is that tough! LOL > JP > > > I have read that you can neutralize a brown recluse bite in a matter of > > minutes by one jolt from an electromagnetic stun gun or a cattle prod > > jolt right on the point of the bite. I have not used this technique on > > my self but have read two articles about research using this technique > > and it completely neutralizes brown recluse or rattle snake bites. The > > pharmaceutical method allows the body to go through hell for several > > weeks as your body fights off not only the angry protein from the spider > > but the reaction to the pharm.assault. > > > > Sorry to hear about this painful situation. > > > > Del Snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2000 Report Share Posted June 11, 2000 >Boil some water on the stove. Put a few ounces of H2O2 in >it. Place a towel over your head and in front of your face to trap the >rising steam off the pot, and inhale. I sometimes clean my nostrils with a drop or two of 3% food-grade h2o2. It goes up to the top of the head and also down to the saliva glands. I then get lots of tears in my eyes, and lots of saliva in my mouth, and of course lots of mucus in the nose. Would the steam method quoted above be the equivalent of the nose wash I describe? Thanks. Beatrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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