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Just my personal opinion, but I think you are on the right track --

if there is no mold in the closet, (1) why can't you see the tests;

(2) where did the fungal contamination on your clothes come from;

and (3) why remediate?

On the clothes issue, I've seen two schools of thought -- one to

HEPA vacuum, one to wash washable clothes and dry clean those that

need dry cleaning. I've worked with several remediation companies

that say both can work (I've gotten alternate bids on the same job

from the same company) and it depends on (1) costs; (2) and what's

in the closet and how washable it is.

I don't have an opinion on the MCS issue, but I am sure you will

hear from other folks in the group that do.

Good luck!

Cyn

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PO Box 1007

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(626) 358-7471 Fax: (626) 358-2894

>

> Hi all

> I asked my landlord to test my closets because I am sure there is

mold there. I

> react when I open the doors and cannot use anything in the closets

anymore.

> They tested and took 6 weeks to get results. They claim there is

no mold, but

> that something fungal showed up on my clothes. They sent a

remediation

> company to look and give them an estimate for any required work.

The rep

> told me they would do what I wanted to make the closets safe. I

have bad

> MCS and am scared to do anything.

>

> They said that whatever they would do to " remediate " would involve

anti-

> fungal chemicals. They also offered to just vacuum everything in

the closet in

> a sealed filtration unit and pack it in plastic bags so it doesn't

contaminate the

> rest of the apt. Then I can remove it all and put in storage

indefinitely. Is this

> my best bet?

>

> What do you think of the fact that they seem quite resistant to

showing me the

> results of the report? If there was no mold, why wouldn't they

show me a copy,

> and why would they offer to do any work in the closets at all? I'm

confused....

>

> Thanks

>

>

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Did you look all through the closet and see if you can see any water

stain or marks? I have heard of people having a problem in their

closets before. Maybe there is a roof leak or some pipe leaking

somewhere. I would go where it seems to smell the strongest and get

someone to cut a piece of the drywall out and check out what is

underneath. There is possibly mold behind the walls that cannot be

seen yet.

When if first got ill way back around 1997 I had never heard of

mold, but I was very weak and sick. I started looking around to see

if I could find some mold or something.

I eventually had the health department come and they found the mold

in the panelling in the basement. This was from cracks in the

foundation. Of course the landlord ignored me.

It can also be difficult with the chemicals they use. My mom just

moved out of a condo that leaked on 4 floors for several years. The

landlord tried to clean the mold himself and used some chemical and

my mom couldn't use her bathroom for many months. Luckily they had a

shower room down by the pool. This was a very expensive condo on the

ocean and they still have not done anything about the leak that is

leaking on several floors. My mom couldn't see the mold but the

carpet was always wet outside in the hallway and my mom investigated

and found it herself.

If you find anything in the insulation you can cut out a piece and

send it to the lab and also show it to your landlord. Some states do

help more than they use to. I think my state has to see it and they

will check it out. The last place I had mold the roof leaked and

they were ready to condemn the home unless they put a new roof on but

I got out anyway cuz it was in the air system by then. Be careful.

, " lunagirl32002 " <j_genser@h...> wrote:

>

> Hi all

> I asked my landlord to test my closets because I am sure there is

mold there. I

> react when I open the doors and cannot use anything in the closets

anymore.

> They tested and took 6 weeks to get results. They claim there is no

mold, but

> that something fungal showed up on my clothes. They sent a

remediation

> company to look and give them an estimate for any required work.

The rep

> told me they would do what I wanted to make the closets safe. I

have bad

> MCS and am scared to do anything.

>

> They said that whatever they would do to " remediate " would involve

anti-

> fungal chemicals. They also offered to just vacuum everything in

the closet in

> a sealed filtration unit and pack it in plastic bags so it doesn't

contaminate the

> rest of the apt. Then I can remove it all and put in storage

indefinitely. Is this

> my best bet?

>

> What do you think of the fact that they seem quite resistant to

showing me the

> results of the report? If there was no mold, why wouldn't they show

me a copy,

> and why would they offer to do any work in the closets at all? I'm

confused....

>

> Thanks

>

>

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I cannot go in the closets anymore or touch anything inside or I will react and

be up all night and any clothes I had on would be unwearable. I took a lot of

clothes out of the closet several months ago to wash them. They were

handwashed by my mom and then washed in a machine and I cannot have

them on me or it affects my breathing immediately. I start choking.

There is no sign of leakage. However, 2 years ago there was a huge flood in

the apt above me and the whole ceiling came down with tons of water. They

repaired everything quickly, brand new ceiling...but did no work above the 3

closets. Now, 2 years later, it seems mold is proliferating in the closets only.

I

had an mold inspector come in but unfortunately did not know enough at the

time and they only did a tape test in the closets. Spent $650. The landlord

offered to do the testing and the woman was inspecting/testing for 2 1/2 hours,

it was pretty comprehensive. I am too scared to cut the ceiling...what if there

is

black mold and then I get much sicker? I have no place to go....I have lived

here for over 12 years. Not sure what to do. Should I move out, have all my

things removed, and then test the ceiling?

--- In , " ldelp84227 " <ldelp84227@a...>

wrote:

>

> Did you look all through the closet and see if you can see any water

> stain or marks? I have heard of people having a problem in their

> closets before. Maybe there is a roof leak or some pipe leaking

> somewhere. I would go where it seems to smell the strongest and get

> someone to cut a piece of the drywall out and check out what is

> underneath. There is possibly mold behind the walls that cannot be

> seen yet.

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" lunagirl32002 " < wrote:

>

> I cannot go in the closets anymore or touch anything inside or I

will react and be up all night and any clothes I had on would be

unwearable. I took a lot of clothes out of the closet several

months ago to wash them. They were handwashed by my mom and then

washed in a machine and I cannot have them on me or it affects my

breathing immediately. I start choking.

>

If the source is mold in the ceiling, of course you have to get

the clothes out of there and re-wash. But you must dry them

somewhere far away from any mold plumes.

I got snookered a couple of years ago when Dr D asked me

to " perceptify " a closet that was bothering her.

I felt slammed, but found no mold or water damage whatsoever.

I crawled under the building and the subfloor felt fine.

I crawled into the attic, and that felt fine too.

I checked out all areas on the other side of the closet, Hmm. Funny.

Doesn't feel bad anywhere but IN the closet, yet there is no mold.

Turns out that one of the employees who hangs her coat in that

closet lives in a mold castle.

She was the receptionist who didn't believe any of Dr D's " mold

nonsense " and participated in getting Dr D fired for being " crazy "

and mentally susceptible to my mold indoctrination.

She has since been diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and arthritis, can no

longer work, and her husband is talking divorce.

The doctors haven't got a clue as to what is wrong with her.

Dr D called me a week ago - she's doing fine and had a very nice

time over the holidays.

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The EPA says dry cleaning does nothing to kill or remove spores,

this has been my finding , did nothing to mycotoxins either

> >

> > Hi all

> > I asked my landlord to test my closets because I am sure there

is

> mold there. I

> > react when I open the doors and cannot use anything in the

closets

> anymore.

> > They tested and took 6 weeks to get results. They claim there is

> no mold, but

> > that something fungal showed up on my clothes. They sent a

> remediation

> > company to look and give them an estimate for any required work.

> The rep

> > told me they would do what I wanted to make the closets safe. I

> have bad

> > MCS and am scared to do anything.

> >

> > They said that whatever they would do to " remediate " would

involve

> anti-

> > fungal chemicals. They also offered to just vacuum everything in

> the closet in

> > a sealed filtration unit and pack it in plastic bags so it

doesn't

> contaminate the

> > rest of the apt. Then I can remove it all and put in storage

> indefinitely. Is this

> > my best bet?

> >

> > What do you think of the fact that they seem quite resistant to

> showing me the

> > results of the report? If there was no mold, why wouldn't they

> show me a copy,

> > and why would they offer to do any work in the closets at all?

I'm

> confused....

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> >

>

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looks like you will have to move, see my posts on sucessfully

cleanng clothes after over one year of failed trails

> >

> > Did you look all through the closet and see if you can see any

water

> > stain or marks? I have heard of people having a problem in

their

> > closets before. Maybe there is a roof leak or some pipe leaking

> > somewhere. I would go where it seems to smell the strongest

and get

> > someone to cut a piece of the drywall out and check out what is

> > underneath. There is possibly mold behind the walls that cannot

be

> > seen yet.

>

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