Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 Dear , You could pressurize a bag that was attached securely around the waist, but you couldn't get much pressure into it, before it would blow off the cuff. And oxygen alone is not nearly as powerful as ozone, so you need lots of pressure. This is not a really good avenue to pursue, since bagging at normal atmospheric pressure with ozone works fine. When scientific tests are done with ozone on a group of people, the control group gets oxygen. Best of Health! Saul Pressman URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... Re: OT: Atmospheric oxygen > From: Slivinski <sunbrite1@...> > > Hello All, > I have a question that I hope is strange.... Can just the feet or legs be > in a pressurized > oxygen bag....say both legs up to the hips.... or just feet to knees to > get benefits of > oxygen into the body???? > thanks mike slivinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 Dear Mike, Medical ozone therapy requires only pure oxygen supply (either a tank or a concentrator). The Alpine units are not medical devices and should not be used for this purpose. They are to be used for cleaning the air only. You might want to think about taking a warm bath with 8 oz of 35% H2O2 added, if you are looking for safe ways of doing an oxygen therapy. Or, try a can of Homozon. Either of these are inexpensive, safe methods. Don't try and do an ozone therapy on the cheap with equipment that is not designed for the purpose. Best of Health! Saul Pressman URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... Re: OT: Atmospheric oxygen > > > > > > > From: Slivinski <sunbrite1@...> > > > > > > Hello All, > > > I have a question that I hope is strange.... Can just the feet or > > legs be > > > in a pressurized > > > oxygen bag....say both legs up to the hips.... or just feet to > > knees to > > > get benefits of > > > oxygen into the body???? > > > thanks mike slivinski > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR! > > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as > > 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. > > Apply NOW! > > 1/2121/2/_/507288/_/952279445/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > > and other alternative self- help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > > provider. > > > > You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the > > following address > > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > > oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. > > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. > > oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest > > mode. > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > > mode. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > DON'T HATE YOUR RATE! > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as > 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. > Apply NOW! > 1/2120/2/_/507288/_/952288069/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the following address > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. > oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2000 Report Share Posted March 6, 2000 Dear Bill, There are more things to consider. The level of clean ozone is greater at higher altitudes, as well as there being less pollutants. Mountain living people have larger lung capacity (Andes Indians have nearly 50% greater capacity). And cleaner air encourages deeper breathing, whereas dirty air encourages shallow breathing. Also, more UV at altitude means more Vitamin D produced; therefore greater absorption of calcium. Lack of calcium is related to all the degenerative diseases. Regarding atmospheric pressure, the pressure on Venus is many times higher than on earth. Yet they are of similar size and gravity (ostensibly). (Venus has large amounts of carbon dioxide and sulfuric acid in its atmosphere, so its not a nice place to visit.) There are scientists who believe that the earth had a canopy of vapor before the Great Flood, (possibly 12,000 years ago), and as a consequence, higher atmospheric pressure, and a worldwide tropical climate. Amongst the evidence for this proposition, they cite tropical plants found fossilized at high latitudes, not accounted for by any other theory. Greater vegetative mass means more oxygen in the atmosphere. So perhaps the enormous lifespans of the Ancient Patriarchs were possible with higher pressure and higher oxygen level. Like living in a hyperbaric chamber! There are more things in heaven and earth .... Best of Health! Saul Pressman URL: http://www.plasmafire.com email: saul@... Re: OT: Atmospheric oxygen concentration dropping ? > From: Bill Kingsbury <kingsbry@...> > > Sun, 05 Mar 2000, Jim Lambert indicated: > > > ><snip> ...if our bodies adapted to an environment with 150 % > > of today's atmospheric pressure, and 35% more oxygen, then > > we would be virtually invulnerable to bacteria, virus, mold, > > yeast,etc. We would be supermen for real! > > And, if this were true, then today's atmosphere would mean > > we have to take drastic steps not to fall prey to our body's > > natural vulnerabilities to these changes. > > Jim, > > Can you explain how the Earth's atmospheric pressure might have > once been 150% of its current level ? Is that possible ? > > Actually most people can adapt well to lower oxygen levels in > one generation or less, as when a person moves from sea level > to live in a region at 10-12 thousand feet altitude, where the > air is relatively thin. Healthy people soon adapt with little > problem, by a natural increase in the number of red blood cells. > > I've never heard that health of human populations decreases as > the air becomes rarified, with an increase in altitude. In fact, > health may actually increase in thinner air at higher altitudes > -- although this is partly due to CO (carbon monoxide) and other > pollutants settling down towards sea-level. And, with thinner > air, people breathe deeper, which provides a healthy increase in > lymphatic circulation. > > > The following point is from n@...: > > > > ......it's unlikely the earth's atmosphere was a 35% O2 while > > we were around. Oxygen is great stuff that is also extremely > > dangerous in it's effect of lowering the temperature at which > > substances will combust. Human flesh as it turns out, > > burns quite nicely at 28% O2 (in the presence of a flame). > > One lightening strike in a 35% O2 environment could do a > > LOT of damage. > > > But what if the atmospheric pressure was increased by 150% ? > Could this offset the combustibility problem of higher O2 levels, > or could this exacerbate the problem ? > > > I still have reservations about accepting the theory that free > O2 levels were 35% sometime in the last 50,000+ years -- merely > based upon measuring O2 in air pockets in Antarctic ice samples. > > Assuming Jim's information is correct -- that natural ozone holes > cyclically reoccur over Antarctica -- then long term solar and > cosmic radiation (that enter more easily through these ozone holes) > may have dissociated some water vapor into H2 and O2, inside those > air pockets found in the ice. The smaller molecules of H2 could > have more easily diffused out of those air pockets, leaving behind > a relative excess of O2, thus distorting the recent scientific > measurements, and leading to false conclusions... > > > However, this may be a natural, long term buffering process, which > resupplies atmospheric free O2 when too much becomes 'bound up' > into CO2, NOx, SOx, or whatever gasses are involved in creating > those ozone holes. The vast majority of this posited 'radiation- > dissociated O2' would not be created hidden inside Antarctic ice > cap bubbles. It would be created in the open, and the dissociated > H2 would diffuse off into space, leaving behind the O2, to slowly > replenish the Earth's atmosphere. > > > Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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