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[Guest guest]

Most folks who read regularly had become acquainted with Bob.

Unfortunately, I just received the following from his daugher. I do not know the

exact circumstances, but if anyone cares to send the family a note, I will

forward it for you.

I am Blue74730's daughter and I got your e-mail addresses from my father's

e-mails.

I just wanted to inform all of you that my father passed away last week. If

you have any questions please feel free to e-mail me. I don't know how close

any of you were to him but I wanted to let everyone know about his death and

thank you for being his friend.

Sincerely,

Tami.

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

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[Guest guest]

To Bob's family:

My name is Marcie and have talked to Bob several times. My heart goes out to

you Tami and the rest of the family. I do not know what happened to him but I

hope that he did not suffer. Please let me know what I can do to help and feel

free to contact me by e-mail. marcie1029@...

Sincerely sorry what happened,

Marcie McGovern

SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@...> wrote:

Most folks who read regularly had become acquainted with Bob.

Unfortunately, I just received the following from his daugher. I do not know the

exact circumstances, but if anyone cares to send the family a note, I will

forward it for you.

I am Blue74730's daughter and I got your e-mail addresses from my father's

e-mails.

I just wanted to inform all of you that my father passed away last week. If

you have any questions please feel free to e-mail me. I don't know how close

any of you were to him but I wanted to let everyone know about his death and

thank you for being his friend.

Sincerely,

Tami.

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Serena,

Thank you for posting this. It's a stark reminder that what we

interpret from the words on the computer screen may be much different

than the circumstances of what or how the writer is experiencing it.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Most folks who read regularly had become acquainted with

> Bob. Unfortunately, I just received the following from his daugher. I

> do not know the exact circumstances, but if anyone cares to send the

> family a note, I will forward it for you.

>

>

> I am Blue74730's daughter and I got your e-mail addresses from my

> father's e-mails.

>

> I just wanted to inform all of you that my father passed away last

> week. If you have any questions please feel free to e-mail me. I

> don't know how close any of you were to him but I wanted to let

> everyone know about his death and thank you for being his friend.

>

> Sincerely,

> Tami.

>

>

>

>

> Serena

>

> There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

> ...Ayn Rand, paraphrased

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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> on new and used cars.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carl, I had been in touch with Bob (we think) right up until the day he died.

When we last spoke, he had a doctor's appointment for the next day, was planning

to visit his family, and was enthusiastic about buying a new travel trailer. All

things he had discussed here with us, and he was on his way to do them all.

Up until then, he had been having some trouble understanding what was going

on around him and was reacting very emotionally to all sorts of things. His

writing had gotten a bit disjointed at times, and as it turned out later, some

of what he had written was apparently not quite what he had meant to say. But we

had sorted a lot of it out and he had settled down quite a lot. We even had good

laugh over the whole " PhD " rant. As it turned out, he had gotten somewhat

confused because we had a member and a non-member with the same name. If you

don't refer to one as " Dr. " , you can't tell which is which. When we finally

caught on, it was pretty funny. If I had had any idea he was not in a good place

and improving, I'd have stayed up later and talked more. I know that any of us

would have. I didn't hear from him again. Instead, I am told, he cancelled his

plans suddenly the following day and instead took his own life.

I don't think I quite have my head around this yet. That is, I know what

happened to him. I know this disease kills. I know what the mental and emotional

effects of it are. I know how close some of us have come, and there's no

particular reason why it took him and not me or someone else. I know he was in

touch with others here, and was planning to come back to the group just as he

had done several times before. I just...wish he had said something that last

day, is all.

I have forwarded notes to Bob's family as promised, and I have asked Bob's

daughter if she would like to send along a picture or memorial or something for

the files section here. I have assured her that he won't be forgotten by us and

that we won't stop trying to end this illness.

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Serena,

Thank you for posting this. It's a stark reminder that what we

interpret from the words on the computer screen may be much different

than the circumstances of what or how the writer is experiencing it.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

OMG, I emailed Bob & he didn't return my email. He was trying to connect with

someone here in Az & I was helping him to do that. I didn't know what was going

on. I am really upset. This is so tragic. Loni

SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@...> wrote: Carl, I had been in touch with Bob

(we think) right up until the day he died. When we last spoke, he had a doctor's

appointment for the next day, was planning to visit his family, and was

enthusiastic about buying a new travel trailer. All things he had discussed here

with us, and he was on his way to do them all.

Up until then, he had been having some trouble understanding what was going

on around him and was reacting very emotionally to all sorts of things. His

writing had gotten a bit disjointed at times, and as it turned out later, some

of what he had written was apparently not quite what he had meant to say. But we

had sorted a lot of it out and he had settled down quite a lot. We even had good

laugh over the whole " PhD " rant. As it turned out, he had gotten somewhat

confused because we had a member and a non-member with the same name. If you

don't refer to one as " Dr. " , you can't tell which is which. When we finally

caught on, it was pretty funny. If I had had any idea he was not in a good place

and improving, I'd have stayed up later and talked more. I know that any of us

would have. I didn't hear from him again. Instead, I am told, he cancelled his

plans suddenly the following day and instead took his own life.

I don't think I quite have my head around this yet. That is, I know what

happened to him. I know this disease kills. I know what the mental and emotional

effects of it are. I know how close some of us have come, and there's no

particular reason why it took him and not me or someone else. I know he was in

touch with others here, and was planning to come back to the group just as he

had done several times before. I just...wish he had said something that last

day, is all.

I have forwarded notes to Bob's family as promised, and I have asked Bob's

daughter if she would like to send along a picture or memorial or something for

the files section here. I have assured her that he won't be forgotten by us and

that we won't stop trying to end this illness.

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Serena,

Thank you for posting this. It's a stark reminder that what we

interpret from the words on the computer screen may be much different

than the circumstances of what or how the writer is experiencing it.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

---------------------------------

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Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

[Guest guest]

Tami, I am so sorry about your dad. He was a great man & I so enjoyed our

emails. I was trying to connect him with a friend named Marie here in Arizona.

If you would like me to try to reach her I will. I will really miss him. Please

feel free to email me at loni326@... My regards to you & your family!!

Loni

SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@...> wrote: Most folks who read

regularly had become acquainted with Bob. Unfortunately, I just received the

following from his daugher. I do not know the exact circumstances, but if anyone

cares to send the family a note, I will forward it for you.

I am Blue74730's daughter and I got your e-mail addresses from my father's

e-mails.

I just wanted to inform all of you that my father passed away last week. If

you have any questions please feel free to e-mail me. I don't know how close

any of you were to him but I wanted to let everyone know about his death and

thank you for being his friend.

Sincerely,

Tami.

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Serena,

I'm glad you were in touch with him and he had a happy time. I don't

know either why him and not others, or why they give no clue or hint.

In the last 3 years or so I've lost three friends that were also

clients. None gave even the slightest indication except in hindsight,

and then only because you now know what they were really intending.

He and I got off to a rough start but once we got clear - which was

very quickly - we had a good relationship especially off-line. Thank

you for being in contact with his family and for forwarding the

expressions of sympathy.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

-----

> Carl, I had been in touch with Bob (we think) right up until the day

> he died. When we last spoke, he had a doctor's appointment for the

> next day, was planning to visit his family, and was enthusiastic about

> buying a new travel trailer. All things he had discussed here with us,

> and he was on his way to do them all.

>

> Up until then, he had been having some trouble understanding what

> was going on around him and was reacting very emotionally to all

> sorts of things. His writing had gotten a bit disjointed at times,

> and as it turned out later, some of what he had written was

> apparently not quite what he had meant to say. But we had sorted a

> lot of it out and he had settled down quite a lot. We even had good

> laugh over the whole " PhD " rant. As it turned out, he had gotten

> somewhat confused because we had a member and a non-member with the

> same name. If you don't refer to one as " Dr. " , you can't tell which

> is which. When we finally caught on, it was pretty funny. If I had

> had any idea he was not in a good place and improving, I'd have

> stayed up later and talked more. I know that any of us would have.

> I didn't hear from him again. Instead, I am told, he cancelled his

> plans suddenly the following day and instead took his own life.

>

> I don't think I quite have my head around this yet. That is, I know

> what happened to him. I know this disease kills. I know what the

> mental and emotional effects of it are. I know how close some of us

> have come, and there's no particular reason why it took him and not

> me or someone else. I know he was in touch with others here, and was

> planning to come back to the group just as he had done several times

> before. I just...wish he had said something that last day, is all.

>

> I have forwarded notes to Bob's family as promised, and I have asked

> Bob's daughter if she would like to send along a picture or memorial

> or something for the files section here. I have assured her that he

> won't be forgotten by us and that we won't stop trying to end this

> illness.

>

>

> " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

> Serena,

>

> Thank you for posting this. It's a stark reminder that what we

> interpret from the words on the computer screen may be much different

> than the circumstances of what or how the writer is experiencing it.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

>

> Serena

>

> There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

> ...Ayn Rand, paraphrased

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

> Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Carl, I think the thing that's bothering me about this isn't that there were

signs and I missed them, because I didn't miss them. That's why I stayed in

touch. That's probably why several of us stayed in touch. What bothers me is

that he was finally soooo close to getting out of that trailer for good and

getting some real help. He knew he had finally run out of time, and he had made

the decision, only it was too late. Maybe a split second too late, or five

minutes too late, or five days too late - doesn't matter. We see it again and

again, and we warn people and they just don't choose to believe it. They

convince themselves that they can stay just a little longer or handle just a

little more pain, or that it's somehow just a tiny little bit better than not

knowing where they will live next. He was trying, really hard. And we were

trying too, and it still wasn't enough. The illness got to him and lied to him

and he couldn't overcome that and now he's gone. I hate this disease.

I won't dwell on it further. But I'll remember it, that's for sure.

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Serena,

I'm glad you were in touch with him and he had a happy time. I don't

know either why him and not others, or why they give no clue or hint.

In the last 3 years or so I've lost three friends that were also

clients. None gave even the slightest indication except in hindsight,

and then only because you now know what they were really intending.

He and I got off to a rough start but once we got clear - which was

very quickly - we had a good relationship especially off-line. Thank

you for being in contact with his family and for forwarding the

expressions of sympathy.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

It's all so sad. I wish I could have done more. Talked to him more often. He

will be missed. Loni

SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@...> wrote: Carl, I think the thing that's

bothering me about this isn't that there were signs and I missed them, because I

didn't miss them. That's why I stayed in touch. That's probably why several of

us stayed in touch. What bothers me is that he was finally soooo close to

getting out of that trailer for good and getting some real help. He knew he had

finally run out of time, and he had made the decision, only it was too late.

Maybe a split second too late, or five minutes too late, or five days too late -

doesn't matter. We see it again and again, and we warn people and they just

don't choose to believe it. They convince themselves that they can stay just a

little longer or handle just a little more pain, or that it's somehow just a

tiny little bit better than not knowing where they will live next. He was

trying, really hard. And we were trying too, and it still wasn't enough. The

illness got to him and lied to him and he couldn't overcome that

and now he's gone. I hate this disease.

I won't dwell on it further. But I'll remember it, that's for sure.

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Serena,

I'm glad you were in touch with him and he had a happy time. I don't

know either why him and not others, or why they give no clue or hint.

In the last 3 years or so I've lost three friends that were also

clients. None gave even the slightest indication except in hindsight,

and then only because you now know what they were really intending.

He and I got off to a rough start but once we got clear - which was

very quickly - we had a good relationship especially off-line. Thank

you for being in contact with his family and for forwarding the

expressions of sympathy.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

I am very very sad to hear this news . It just isn't right. I could

feel Bob's dispair at Christmas time. God Bless you Bob.

In , SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@y...>

wrote:

>

> Carl, I had been in touch with Bob (we think) right up until the

day he died. When we last spoke, he had a doctor's appointment for

the next day, was planning to visit his family, and was enthusiastic

about buying a new travel trailer. All things he had discussed here

with us, and he was on his way to do them all.

>

> Up until then, he had been having some trouble understanding

what was going on around him and was reacting very emotionally to all

sorts of things. His writing had gotten a bit disjointed at times,

and as it turned out later, some of what he had written was

apparently not quite what he had meant to say. But we had sorted a

lot of it out and he had settled down quite a lot. We even had good

laugh over the whole " PhD " rant. As it turned out, he had gotten

somewhat confused because we had a member and a non-member with the

same name. If you don't refer to one as " Dr. " , you can't tell which

is which. When we finally caught on, it was pretty funny. If I had

had any idea he was not in a good place and improving, I'd have

stayed up later and talked more. I know that any of us would have. I

didn't hear from him again. Instead, I am told, he cancelled his

plans suddenly the following day and instead took his own life.

>

> I don't think I quite have my head around this yet. That is, I

know what happened to him. I know this disease kills. I know what the

mental and emotional effects of it are. I know how close some of us

have come, and there's no particular reason why it took him and not

me or someone else. I know he was in touch with others here, and was

planning to come back to the group just as he had done several times

before. I just...wish he had said something that last day, is all.

>

> I have forwarded notes to Bob's family as promised, and I have

asked Bob's daughter if she would like to send along a picture or

memorial or something for the files section here. I have assured her

that he won't be forgotten by us and that we won't stop trying to end

this illness.

>

>

> " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@h...> wrote:

> Serena,

>

> Thank you for posting this. It's a stark reminder that what we

> interpret from the words on the computer screen may be much

different

> than the circumstances of what or how the writer is experiencing it.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

>

> Serena

>

> There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original

premise.

> ...A

yn Rand, paraphrased

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Photos & #8211; Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

> Photo Books. You design it and we & #8217;ll bind it!

>

>

[Guest guest]

How VERY sad & tragic......if Bob's family is reading this, I'm SOOOO very

sorry. This site offers relief & help to those of us suffering, but

obviously much MORE needs to be done.....when will our " government " ever

listen!?

Take care, all, & God bless,

Re: [] Fwd: Blue74730

OMG, I emailed Bob & he didn't return my email. He was trying to connect

with someone here in Az & I was helping him to do that. I didn't know what

was going on. I am really upset. This is so tragic. Loni

SERENA EDWARDS <pushcrash@...> wrote: Carl, I had been in touch with

Bob (we think) right up until the day he died. When we last spoke, he had a

doctor's appointment for the next day, was planning to visit his family, and

was enthusiastic about buying a new travel trailer. All things he had

discussed here with us, and he was on his way to do them all.

Up until then, he had been having some trouble understanding what was

going on around him and was reacting very emotionally to all sorts of

things. His writing had gotten a bit disjointed at times, and as it turned

out later, some of what he had written was apparently not quite what he had

meant to say. But we had sorted a lot of it out and he had settled down

quite a lot. We even had good laugh over the whole " PhD " rant. As it turned

out, he had gotten somewhat confused because we had a member and a

non-member with the same name. If you don't refer to one as " Dr. " , you can't

tell which is which. When we finally caught on, it was pretty funny. If I

had had any idea he was not in a good place and improving, I'd have stayed

up later and talked more. I know that any of us would have. I didn't hear

from him again. Instead, I am told, he cancelled his plans suddenly the

following day and instead took his own life.

I don't think I quite have my head around this yet. That is, I know what

happened to him. I know this disease kills. I know what the mental and

emotional effects of it are. I know how close some of us have come, and

there's no particular reason why it took him and not me or someone else. I

know he was in touch with others here, and was planning to come back to the

group just as he had done several times before. I just...wish he had said

something that last day, is all.

I have forwarded notes to Bob's family as promised, and I have asked Bob's

daughter if she would like to send along a picture or memorial or something

for the files section here. I have assured her that he won't be forgotten by

us and that we won't stop trying to end this illness.

" Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@...> wrote:

Serena,

Thank you for posting this. It's a stark reminder that what we

interpret from the words on the computer screen may be much different

than the circumstances of what or how the writer is experiencing it.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

Serena

There is no such thing as an anomaly. Recheck your original premise.

...Ayn Rand,

paraphrased

---------------------------------

Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover

Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it!