Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Fletch, Thank you for your story, elegantly written. It illustrates how we change how we see the world as the world changes for us. But the others won't until it happens to them, in their own way. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > Hi Group, > > I have a friend that I have known since high school. He bought a > grain handling facility out in the country that was once a fairly nice > place in its day but was run down but he put work into it and bought > it for a right price and for his purposes is really a nice operation > to have. The original owner before it closed had added on an extra > office space that has carpet, paneling, 2X2 ceiling tiles, and of > course a very flat roof. > > A year ago I went to the place to see it and he said he was afraid to > show me that room because another friend of mine told him I would > freak out over the ceiling tiles. They had, like many ceiling tiles > one sees everywhere, evidence of water leakage. But his showed > obvious mold colonies growing. I told him they will make him sick, he > did not believe >>>he<<< gets sick from mold and I said any perfectly > healthy person would become ill from it over time and did not go on > since I knew from his tone he thought I am overboard on mold's dangers > and did not want to totally over do it. > > I was just there last week and the room is much worse. He had said he > tried to fix the roof leaks, but the one corner was still bad. I > looked and one of the 2X2 tiles was mushrooming downward with many > colonies of mold upon it. The other colonies I saw last year are > bigger. Some black and some dark green in the room. > > This guy in college could party more than me and get up for the > earliest class and had a part time job, wife and child. He has > built himself from very little into a very successful farmer during > times where many are not doing well. He is a risk taker and always is > thinking ahead and planning and organized. > > I asked him why he could not cut fiberglass boards into 2x2 pieces and > replace the the ceiling very cheaply and then water would not matter > as much. I put those in my bacement and they are great. He told me > there is a lot of insulation above the tiles and it is really bad > there. I did not say anything, but thoughts did race in my head. > Then he laughed in my face in ways hard for me to determine. He is > the type of friend whose relationship has consisted of giving and > recieveing a lot of sh#* from, we don't usually get offended. I don't > know if the laugh was his being embarrassed over it or more toward > laughing a me for being overboard about the danger of mold. > > I told him it is very dangerous and left it at that. He is setting > his sons up to work at that elevator and I do fear for their health. > Anything I say will not help because everyone thinks I am crazy for > tearing apart my house dumping huge sums of money into it for a little > mold. I dare not tell them I don't trust my house yet. > > As farmers, you deal with a lot of mold. Working in elevators even > moreso. It has never bothered me nor him. If he uses that office I > know this energetic person will not stay that way. > > I have to admit that when the harsh laugh came, an ugly part of me had > the attittude of " go ahead sucker, get ill and see how hard you laugh > then " . As I try to get rid of those feelings I know I will still not > be able to do anything about it other than to watch it happen. > > I am overboard. As KC puts it, we are obsessed with mold. I did not > think I was that obvious to my friends, but evidentially I am. It is > a helpless feeling to see it happen to others, warning does not seem > to do any good. If my son were to go into that place, he would no > doubt be wheezing greatly within an hour and might have to go to an > emergency room. > > My own sister, knowing what we went through, has mold in her home and > they have had constant sinus infections. She thinks I am overboard on > mold and can not believe that is the reason for her and her husbands > illness. The children are off to college, but they had problems too > since one school teacher had called her daughter " Miss aches and > pains " . My other sister believes and has seen mold in her shower > walls this summer(no one told me until now). She has tried to warn > her. As I was finding all this out, we went there on Christmas eve > and my son did cough a little bit later than night and a maybe a > little the next day but did quickly recover. Running around with his > cousins and getting plenty of junk food that he rarely sees at home > did not help him much either I am sure. > > These days, everytime I go to into any business or resturant, I > notice the stained ceiling tiles and point them out to my wife and > wonder if my son will be reacting. I did not notice ceilings a few > years ago, my life is different, I have changed. > > So far this winter so good and my son is off all asthma meds since > Thanksgiving. My son has only a very, very small cold now, first one > this winter where many in his school have missed days with flu and > colds. But this spring I know the asthma will be back. > > Sorry to unload, but only people here can understand, > Thanks and no need to reply, I feel better now, > Fletch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I am with you on this one.. This situation is especially scary because not only is he ruining his own and his sons health, potentially, but this guy HANDLES FOOD.. Not just food, but grain.. He is asking for problems.. Good luck! I am also really grateful for this community. Its awesome how we have such a diversity of people here and everybody has something to contribute.. I totally know what you mean about that kind of friends.. I have been lucky to be able to pick my friends in tha last few years and I think it has somewhat spoiled me.. not good.. On 1/18/06, fletch_82000 <fletch_8@...> wrote: > Hi Group, > > I have a friend that I have known since high school. He bought a > grain handling facility out in the country that was once a fairly > nice place in its day but was run down but he put work into it and > bought it for a right price and for his purposes is really a nice > operation to have. The original owner before it closed had added on > an extra office space that has carpet, paneling, 2X2 ceiling tiles, > and of course a very flat roof. > > A year ago I went to the place to see it and he said he was afraid > to show me that room because another friend of mine told him I would > freak out over the ceiling tiles. They had, like many ceiling tiles > one sees everywhere, evidence of water leakage. But his showed > obvious mold colonies growing. I told him they will make him sick, > he did not believe >>>he<<< gets sick from mold and I said any > perfectly healthy person would become ill from it over time and did > not go on since I knew from his tone he thought I am overboard on > mold's dangers and did not want to totally over do it. > > I was just there last week and the room is much worse. He had said > he tried to fix the roof leaks, but the one corner was still bad. I > looked and one of the 2X2 tiles was mushrooming downward with many > colonies of mold upon it. The other colonies I saw last year are > bigger. Some black and some dark green in the room. > > This guy in college could party more than me and get up for the > earliest class and had a part time job, wife and child. He has > built himself from very little into a very successful farmer during > times where many are not doing well. He is a risk taker and always > is thinking ahead and planning and organized. > > I asked him why he could not cut fiberglass boards into 2x2 pieces > and replace the the ceiling very cheaply and then water would not > matter as much. I put those in my bacement and they are great. He > told me there is a lot of insulation above the tiles and it is > really bad there. I did not say anything, but thoughts did race in > my head. Then he laughed in my face in ways hard for me to > determine. He is the type of friend whose relationship has > consisted of giving and recieveing a lot of sh#* from, we don't > usually get offended. I don't know if the laugh was his being > embarrassed over it or more toward laughing a me for being overboard > about the danger of mold. > > I told him it is very dangerous and left it at that. He is setting > his sons up to work at that elevator and I do fear for their > health. Anything I say will not help because everyone thinks I am > crazy for tearing apart my house dumping huge sums of money into it > for a little mold. I dare not tell them I don't trust my house yet. > > As farmers, you deal with a lot of mold. Working in elevators even > moreso. It has never bothered me nor him. If he uses that office I > know this energetic person will not stay that way. > > I have to admit that when the harsh laugh came, an ugly part of me > had the attittude of " go ahead sucker, get ill and see how hard you > laugh then " . As I try to get rid of those feelings I know I will > still not be able to do anything about it other than to watch it > happen. > > I am overboard. As KC puts it, we are obsessed with mold. I did > not think I was that obvious to my friends, but evidentially I am. > It is a helpless feeling to see it happen to others, warning does > not seem to do any good. If my son were to go into that place, he > would no doubt be wheezing greatly within an hour and might have to > go to an emergency room. > > My own sister, knowing what we went through, has mold in her home > and they have had constant sinus infections. She thinks I am > overboard on mold and can not believe that is the reason for her and > her husbands illness. The children are off to college, but they had > problems too since one school teacher had called her daughter " Miss > aches and pains " . My other sister believes and has seen mold in her > shower walls this summer(no one told me until now). She has tried > to warn her. As I was finding all this out, we went there on > Christmas eve and my son did cough a little bit later than night and > a maybe a little the next day but did quickly recover. Running > around with his cousins and getting plenty of junk food that he > rarely sees at home did not help him much either I am sure. > > These days, everytime I go to into any business or resturant, I > notice the stained ceiling tiles and point them out to my wife and > wonder if my son will be reacting. I did not notice ceilings a few > years ago, my life is different, I have changed. > > So far this winter so good and my son is off all asthma meds since > Thanksgiving. My son has only a very, very small cold now, first > one this winter where many in his school have missed days with flu > and colds. But this spring I know the asthma will be back. > > Sorry to unload, but only people here can understand, > Thanks and no need to reply, I feel better now, > Fletch > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I am definitly in your camp, Fletch. My sister, who saved me from dying and nursed me, took care of me like one of her children, has mold in her house now also- they won't listen to me, even knowing all I have been through- she is sick and won't even talk to me about it- my mother said she went for an MRI- the dr says she has allot of imnflamation- but they don't know what is causing it. It is killing me to see her suffer- they looked behind their shower stall , because it was moldy there- found no mold- and won't look anywhere else-even though they have had several floods- they say they don't want to hear any more about mold- I can feel it the moment I walk in- and can't breath if I stay there. But on the positive side, I meet people- at least once a week who are interested in cleaning their houses of mold and are interested in my experiences- so converts are made little by little. > > Hi Group, > > I have a friend that I have known since high school. He bought a > grain handling facility out in the country that was once a fairly > nice place in its day but was run down but he put work into it and > bought it for a right price and for his purposes is really a nice > operation to have. The original owner before it closed had added on > an extra office space that has carpet, paneling, 2X2 ceiling tiles, > and of course a very flat roof. > > A year ago I went to the place to see it and he said he was afraid > to show me that room because another friend of mine told him I would > freak out over the ceiling tiles. They had, like many ceiling tiles > one sees everywhere, evidence of water leakage. But his showed > obvious mold colonies growing. I told him they will make him sick, > he did not believe >>>he<<< gets sick from mold and I said any > perfectly healthy person would become ill from it over time and did > not go on since I knew from his tone he thought I am overboard on > mold's dangers and did not want to totally over do it. > > I was just there last week and the room is much worse. He had said > he tried to fix the roof leaks, but the one corner was still bad. I > looked and one of the 2X2 tiles was mushrooming downward with many > colonies of mold upon it. The other colonies I saw last year are > bigger. Some black and some dark green in the room. > > This guy in college could party more than me and get up for the > earliest class and had a part time job, wife and child. He has > built himself from very little into a very successful farmer during > times where many are not doing well. He is a risk taker and always > is thinking ahead and planning and organized. > > I asked him why he could not cut fiberglass boards into 2x2 pieces > and replace the the ceiling very cheaply and then water would not > matter as much. I put those in my bacement and they are great. He > told me there is a lot of insulation above the tiles and it is > really bad there. I did not say anything, but thoughts did race in > my head. Then he laughed in my face in ways hard for me to > determine. He is the type of friend whose relationship has > consisted of giving and recieveing a lot of sh#* from, we don't > usually get offended. I don't know if the laugh was his being > embarrassed over it or more toward laughing a me for being overboard > about the danger of mold. > > I told him it is very dangerous and left it at that. He is setting > his sons up to work at that elevator and I do fear for their > health. Anything I say will not help because everyone thinks I am > crazy for tearing apart my house dumping huge sums of money into it > for a little mold. I dare not tell them I don't trust my house yet. > > As farmers, you deal with a lot of mold. Working in elevators even > moreso. It has never bothered me nor him. If he uses that office I > know this energetic person will not stay that way. > > I have to admit that when the harsh laugh came, an ugly part of me > had the attittude of " go ahead sucker, get ill and see how hard you > laugh then " . As I try to get rid of those feelings I know I will > still not be able to do anything about it other than to watch it > happen. > > I am overboard. As KC puts it, we are obsessed with mold. I did > not think I was that obvious to my friends, but evidentially I am. > It is a helpless feeling to see it happen to others, warning does > not seem to do any good. If my son were to go into that place, he > would no doubt be wheezing greatly within an hour and might have to > go to an emergency room. > > My own sister, knowing what we went through, has mold in her home > and they have had constant sinus infections. She thinks I am > overboard on mold and can not believe that is the reason for her and > her husbands illness. The children are off to college, but they had > problems too since one school teacher had called her daughter " Miss > aches and pains " . My other sister believes and has seen mold in her > shower walls this summer(no one told me until now). She has tried > to warn her. As I was finding all this out, we went there on > Christmas eve and my son did cough a little bit later than night and > a maybe a little the next day but did quickly recover. Running > around with his cousins and getting plenty of junk food that he > rarely sees at home did not help him much either I am sure. > > These days, everytime I go to into any business or resturant, I > notice the stained ceiling tiles and point them out to my wife and > wonder if my son will be reacting. I did not notice ceilings a few > years ago, my life is different, I have changed. > > So far this winter so good and my son is off all asthma meds since > Thanksgiving. My son has only a very, very small cold now, first > one this winter where many in his school have missed days with flu > and colds. But this spring I know the asthma will be back. > > Sorry to unload, but only people here can understand, > Thanks and no need to reply, I feel better now, > Fletch > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Fletch, I know exactly how you feel!!! Whenever we are invited to my brother's his wife has scented candles burning even though I've told them they make me sick. We go out with friends and NO one ever asks how I am doing & if someone does it's just because it's the proper social thing to say. While others sit and talk about their diabetes, sinus & heart problems, kidney/gall stones,allergies, etc. I listen patiently. However, the minute I mention my illness they shut down immediately. As a mold victim/survivor I feel like a leper. Most of the time I just don't talk about it because people just don't want to listen. You can tell right away, their eyes drift, their body language changes, they really just ignore you and are in total denial. People think you are crazy if you say you can't go to a certain restaurant or theater. They think we are just over reacting, wanting attention & have become a very boring person. Other than my husband no one whats to hear it or try to understand. One friend told me recently that I just need to get over it and move on with my life!!!! She's a teacher who has many classic symptoms and ever took the VCS test and tested positive!!!! She just wants to retire in 3 yrs. and travel. She'll probably be too sick to enjoy her retirement but I can only lead a horse to water!! I'll try to take care of myself and do what I can to help those that will listen!! I'm just happy to have all of you to vent to and listen to. It is a trememdous help and support. We have to stick together and win this battle. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Marcie, We may all be crazy people but we sure know a lot more than they do. I can't wait for the day we can all shout I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 this is sooooooooo scary, fletch, & i agree with you....some people have to learn the hard way. its very sad, that they refuse to listen to the TRUTH. take GOOD care, victoria [] what I see now days > Hi Group, > > I have a friend that I have known since high school. He bought a > grain handling facility out in the country that was once a fairly > nice place in its day but was run down but he put work into it and > bought it for a right price and for his purposes is really a nice > operation to have. The original owner before it closed had added on > an extra office space that has carpet, paneling, 2X2 ceiling tiles, > and of course a very flat roof. > > A year ago I went to the place to see it and he said he was afraid > to show me that room because another friend of mine told him I would > freak out over the ceiling tiles. They had, like many ceiling tiles > one sees everywhere, evidence of water leakage. But his showed > obvious mold colonies growing. I told him they will make him sick, > he did not believe >>>he<<< gets sick from mold and I said any > perfectly healthy person would become ill from it over time and did > not go on since I knew from his tone he thought I am overboard on > mold's dangers and did not want to totally over do it. > > I was just there last week and the room is much worse. He had said > he tried to fix the roof leaks, but the one corner was still bad. I > looked and one of the 2X2 tiles was mushrooming downward with many > colonies of mold upon it. The other colonies I saw last year are > bigger. Some black and some dark green in the room. > > This guy in college could party more than me and get up for the > earliest class and had a part time job, wife and child. He has > built himself from very little into a very successful farmer during > times where many are not doing well. He is a risk taker and always > is thinking ahead and planning and organized. > > I asked him why he could not cut fiberglass boards into 2x2 pieces > and replace the the ceiling very cheaply and then water would not > matter as much. I put those in my bacement and they are great. He > told me there is a lot of insulation above the tiles and it is > really bad there. I did not say anything, but thoughts did race in > my head. Then he laughed in my face in ways hard for me to > determine. He is the type of friend whose relationship has > consisted of giving and recieveing a lot of sh#* from, we don't > usually get offended. I don't know if the laugh was his being > embarrassed over it or more toward laughing a me for being overboard > about the danger of mold. > > I told him it is very dangerous and left it at that. He is setting > his sons up to work at that elevator and I do fear for their > health. Anything I say will not help because everyone thinks I am > crazy for tearing apart my house dumping huge sums of money into it > for a little mold. I dare not tell them I don't trust my house yet. > > As farmers, you deal with a lot of mold. Working in elevators even > moreso. It has never bothered me nor him. If he uses that office I > know this energetic person will not stay that way. > > I have to admit that when the harsh laugh came, an ugly part of me > had the attittude of " go ahead sucker, get ill and see how hard you > laugh then " . As I try to get rid of those feelings I know I will > still not be able to do anything about it other than to watch it > happen. > > I am overboard. As KC puts it, we are obsessed with mold. I did > not think I was that obvious to my friends, but evidentially I am. > It is a helpless feeling to see it happen to others, warning does > not seem to do any good. If my son were to go into that place, he > would no doubt be wheezing greatly within an hour and might have to > go to an emergency room. > > My own sister, knowing what we went through, has mold in her home > and they have had constant sinus infections. She thinks I am > overboard on mold and can not believe that is the reason for her and > her husbands illness. The children are off to college, but they had > problems too since one school teacher had called her daughter " Miss > aches and pains " . My other sister believes and has seen mold in her > shower walls this summer(no one told me until now). She has tried > to warn her. As I was finding all this out, we went there on > Christmas eve and my son did cough a little bit later than night and > a maybe a little the next day but did quickly recover. Running > around with his cousins and getting plenty of junk food that he > rarely sees at home did not help him much either I am sure. > > These days, everytime I go to into any business or resturant, I > notice the stained ceiling tiles and point them out to my wife and > wonder if my son will be reacting. I did not notice ceilings a few > years ago, my life is different, I have changed. > > So far this winter so good and my son is off all asthma meds since > Thanksgiving. My son has only a very, very small cold now, first > one this winter where many in his school have missed days with flu > and colds. But this spring I know the asthma will be back. > > Sorry to unload, but only people here can understand, > Thanks and no need to reply, I feel better now, > Fletch > > > > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Sue, Boy....do I know how you feel!!!!! Just saw the doc @ TCID where I get my IVIG's. He stated that Dr.Shoemaker's idea that mold could make you sick is " INSANE " . The doc told me to " Get over it, go on with my life and let it go!!!!! Have you tried Yoga? " Nope....I am not kidding!!!! Well, before I got exposed to the Stachybotrys Mold, I used to do Marshall Arts,and lift weights even though I was diagnosed with MS in 1989. I used to be able to slam down a 300 lb. man easy during an arrest. I told the doc I have problems just fighting a cold now!!! I then showed him a picture of me 5 weeks before I started working @ the company that I got sick at...his jaw dropped. As they say.....a picture says it all!!! This picture was yelling at him!!!! :-) Hang in there......you are not alone!!! ( I wish that was not a true statement, I wish no one was sick from mold like this!) Sincerely, Marcie <toria@...> wrote: AMEN!!!!!!! victoria Re: [] what I see now days > > > Fletch, I know exactly how you feel!!! Whenever we are invited to my > brother's his wife has scented candles burning even though I've told > them they > make me sick. We go out with friends and NO one ever asks how I am > doing & if > someone does it's just because it's the proper social thing to say. > While others sit and talk about their diabetes, sinus & heart problems, > kidney/gall stones,allergies, etc. I listen patiently. However, the > minute I > mention my illness they shut down immediately. As a mold victim/survivor > I feel > like a leper. Most of the time I just don't talk about it because people > just don't want to listen. You can tell right away, their eyes drift, > their > body language changes, they really just ignore you and are in total > denial. > People think you are crazy if you say you can't go to a certain > restaurant > or theater. They think we are just over reacting, wanting attention & > have > become a very boring person. Other than my husband no one whats to hear > it > or try to understand. One friend told me recently that I just need to > get > over it and move on with my life!!!! She's a teacher who has many > classic > symptoms and ever took the VCS test and tested positive!!!! She just > wants to > retire in 3 yrs. and travel. She'll probably be too sick to enjoy her > retirement but I can only lead a horse to water!! > I'll try to take care of myself and do what I can to help those that will > listen!! > I'm just happy to have all of you to vent to and listen to. It is a > trememdous help and support. We have to stick together and win this > battle. > Sue > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 AMEN!!!!!!! victoria Re: [] what I see now days > > > Fletch, I know exactly how you feel!!! Whenever we are invited to my > brother's his wife has scented candles burning even though I've told > them they > make me sick. We go out with friends and NO one ever asks how I am > doing & if > someone does it's just because it's the proper social thing to say. > While others sit and talk about their diabetes, sinus & heart problems, > kidney/gall stones,allergies, etc. I listen patiently. However, the > minute I > mention my illness they shut down immediately. As a mold victim/survivor > I feel > like a leper. Most of the time I just don't talk about it because people > just don't want to listen. You can tell right away, their eyes drift, > their > body language changes, they really just ignore you and are in total > denial. > People think you are crazy if you say you can't go to a certain > restaurant > or theater. They think we are just over reacting, wanting attention & > have > become a very boring person. Other than my husband no one whats to hear > it > or try to understand. One friend told me recently that I just need to > get > over it and move on with my life!!!! She's a teacher who has many > classic > symptoms and ever took the VCS test and tested positive!!!! She just > wants to > retire in 3 yrs. and travel. She'll probably be too sick to enjoy her > retirement but I can only lead a horse to water!! > I'll try to take care of myself and do what I can to help those that will > listen!! > I'm just happy to have all of you to vent to and listen to. It is a > trememdous help and support. We have to stick together and win this > battle. > Sue > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Great post, I think you very eloquently expressed what many of us go through. I know I have warned a few of my friends that have mold contamination from floods in their basements...but they just ignore me. One friend has already had prostrate cancer, he also has mold in his basement, six inches up the wall. My old neighbors treated me like a " mold freak. " A few people do listen though. --- fletch_82000 <fletch_8@...> wrote: > Hi Group, > > I have a friend that I have known since high school. > He bought a > grain handling facility out in the country that was > once a fairly > nice place in its day but was run down but he put > work into it and > bought it for a right price and for his purposes is > really a nice > operation to have. The original owner before it > closed had added on > an extra office space that has carpet, paneling, 2X2 > ceiling tiles, > and of course a very flat roof. > > A year ago I went to the place to see it and he said > he was afraid > to show me that room because another friend of mine > told him I would > freak out over the ceiling tiles. They had, like > many ceiling tiles > one sees everywhere, evidence of water leakage. But > his showed > obvious mold colonies growing. I told him they will > make him sick, > he did not believe >>>he<<< gets sick from mold and > I said any > perfectly healthy person would become ill from it > over time and did > not go on since I knew from his tone he thought I am > overboard on > mold's dangers and did not want to totally over do > it. > > I was just there last week and the room is much > worse. He had said > he tried to fix the roof leaks, but the one corner > was still bad. I > looked and one of the 2X2 tiles was mushrooming > downward with many > colonies of mold upon it. The other colonies I saw > last year are > bigger. Some black and some dark green in the room. > > This guy in college could party more than me and get > up for the > earliest class and had a part time job, wife and > child. He has > built himself from very little into a very > successful farmer during > times where many are not doing well. He is a risk > taker and always > is thinking ahead and planning and organized. > > I asked him why he could not cut fiberglass boards > into 2x2 pieces > and replace the the ceiling very cheaply and then > water would not > matter as much. I put those in my bacement and they > are great. He > told me there is a lot of insulation above the tiles > and it is > really bad there. I did not say anything, but > thoughts did race in > my head. Then he laughed in my face in ways hard > for me to > determine. He is the type of friend whose > relationship has > consisted of giving and recieveing a lot of sh#* > from, we don't > usually get offended. I don't know if the laugh was > his being > embarrassed over it or more toward laughing a me for > being overboard > about the danger of mold. > > I told him it is very dangerous and left it at that. > He is setting > his sons up to work at that elevator and I do fear > for their > health. Anything I say will not help because > everyone thinks I am > crazy for tearing apart my house dumping huge sums > of money into it > for a little mold. I dare not tell them I don't > trust my house yet. > > As farmers, you deal with a lot of mold. Working in > elevators even > moreso. It has never bothered me nor him. If he > uses that office I > know this energetic person will not stay that way. > > I have to admit that when the harsh laugh came, an > ugly part of me > had the attittude of " go ahead sucker, get ill and > see how hard you > laugh then " . As I try to get rid of those feelings > I know I will > still not be able to do anything about it other than > to watch it > happen. > > I am overboard. As KC puts it, we are obsessed with > mold. I did > not think I was that obvious to my friends, but > evidentially I am. > It is a helpless feeling to see it happen to others, > warning does > not seem to do any good. If my son were to go into > that place, he > would no doubt be wheezing greatly within an hour > and might have to > go to an emergency room. > > My own sister, knowing what we went through, has > mold in her home > and they have had constant sinus infections. She > thinks I am > overboard on mold and can not believe that is the > reason for her and > her husbands illness. The children are off to > college, but they had > problems too since one school teacher had called her > daughter " Miss > aches and pains " . My other sister believes and has > seen mold in her > shower walls this summer(no one told me until now). > She has tried > to warn her. As I was finding all this out, we went > there on > Christmas eve and my son did cough a little bit > later than night and > a maybe a little the next day but did quickly > recover. Running > around with his cousins and getting plenty of junk > food that he > rarely sees at home did not help him much either I > am sure. > > These days, everytime I go to into any business or > resturant, I > notice the stained ceiling tiles and point them out > to my wife and > wonder if my son will be reacting. I did not notice > ceilings a few > years ago, my life is different, I have changed. > > So far this winter so good and my son is off all > asthma meds since > Thanksgiving. My son has only a very, very small > cold now, first > one this winter where many in his school have missed > days with flu > and colds. But this spring I know the asthma will > be back. > > Sorry to unload, but only people here can > understand, > Thanks and no need to reply, I feel better now, > Fletch > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Again, Amen, Marcie & the rest of our " gang. " I used to work a full time job, mow my own lawn, go DANCING 2-3 nites a week, take dance lessons, etc. I HAD a full life......till my employer destroyed all that. take care, all. Re: [] what I see now days > > > Fletch, I know exactly how you feel!!! Whenever we are invited to my > brother's his wife has scented candles burning even though I've told > them they > make me sick. We go out with friends and NO one ever asks how I am > doing & if > someone does it's just because it's the proper social thing to say. > While others sit and talk about their diabetes, sinus & heart problems, > kidney/gall stones,allergies, etc. I listen patiently. However, the > minute I > mention my illness they shut down immediately. As a mold victim/survivor > I feel > like a leper. Most of the time I just don't talk about it because people > just don't want to listen. You can tell right away, their eyes drift, > their > body language changes, they really just ignore you and are in total > denial. > People think you are crazy if you say you can't go to a certain > restaurant > or theater. They think we are just over reacting, wanting attention & > have > become a very boring person. Other than my husband no one whats to hear > it > or try to understand. One friend told me recently that I just need to > get > over it and move on with my life!!!! She's a teacher who has many > classic > symptoms and ever took the VCS test and tested positive!!!! She just > wants to > retire in 3 yrs. and travel. She'll probably be too sick to enjoy her > retirement but I can only lead a horse to water!! > I'll try to take care of myself and do what I can to help those that will > listen!! > I'm just happy to have all of you to vent to and listen to. It is a > trememdous help and support. We have to stick together and win this > battle. > Sue > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 At least your husband is on your side..... not all husbands are like that. > > > > Fletch, I know exactly how you feel!!! Whenever we are invited to my > brother's his wife has scented candles burning even though I've told them they > make me sick. We go out with friends and NO one ever asks how I am doing & if > someone does it's just because it's the proper social thing to say. > While others sit and talk about their diabetes, sinus & heart problems, > kidney/gall stones,allergies, etc. I listen patiently. However, the minute I > mention my illness they shut down immediately. As a mold victim/survivor I feel > like a leper. Most of the time I just don't talk about it because people > just don't want to listen. You can tell right away, their eyes drift, their > body language changes, they really just ignore you and are in total denial. > People think you are crazy if you say you can't go to a certain restaurant > or theater. They think we are just over reacting, wanting attention & have > become a very boring person. Other than my husband no one whats to hear it > or try to understand. One friend told me recently that I just need to get > over it and move on with my life!!!! She's a teacher who has many classic > symptoms and ever took the VCS test and tested positive!!!! She just wants to > retire in 3 yrs. and travel. She'll probably be too sick to enjoy her > retirement but I can only lead a horse to water!! > I'll try to take care of myself and do what I can to help those that will > listen!! > I'm just happy to have all of you to vent to and listen to. It is a > trememdous help and support. We have to stick together and win this battle. > Sue > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 > One friend told me recently that I just need to get over it and move on with my life!!!! She's a teacher who has many classic symptoms and ever took the VCS test and tested positive!!!! She just wants to retire in 3 yrs. and travel. She'll probably be too sick to enjoy her retirement but I can only lead a horse to water!! < That's for sure! Just like that receptionist who was showing " the signs " that Dr D was trying to help. Not only did she reject Dr D's information, but she participated in Dr D's getting fired for being " mold crazy " . And now she has lost everything with doctors completely unable to help. Dr D, who is doing fine now, tells me being fired not only helped get her out of that bad place quicker, but it also opened her eyes about the true nature of people she thought were her friends. Dr D says that perhaps she could develope a little more sympathy if the receptionist would just call and say something like " Maybe you weren't so crazy after all. Can you tell me about it? " . But nope, that call hasn't come, and the receptionist is completely reliant upon her doctors to get her out of this mess. I guess you could make a good guess what her chances are. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I already have my sign ready with those words to hold up in front of me!!!! I think I will try to get a car tag with " ITYS " on it. LOL! Marcie ssr3351@... wrote: Marcie, We may all be crazy people but we sure know a lot more than they do. I can't wait for the day we can all shout I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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