Re: Help with water damage mold

[Guest guest]

Ugg....I hate to hear all these stories. I am a

victim of mold almost killing me and ruining me

financially. You better get the heck out of there as

fast as you can. Insist that they give you another

house ASAP. Doctors still don't know much about the

effects of mold. Basically, you and your family are

being poisoned. It sounds very extensive, and I don't

think you need to bother with a test. You can also go

to www.mold-help.org. Just move and inspect the new

place for any additional problems. At least you don't

own the place and won't be stuck with it. Get a note

from your doctors if you need help (if they will do

that). They vacate schools, court houses, governor's

mansions because of mold! That should be enough to

convince the housing authority there. Also, I

wouldn't think they would want a lawsuit.

Judi

--- SnuggleKitty <greeneyedchic75@...> wrote:

> Recently I noticed black mold on my baseboard in the

> bathroom. I live

> in Military housing and they sent a repairman he was

> able to push

> right on through the wall cause it was mushy. I had

> a major water

> leak in some pipes that connect the bathroom sink

> and the kitchen

> sink. It had a huge hole in it and everytime you

> used the water it

> drained out of the hole into the wall. He also said

> he it had been

> leaking for a very long time probably 2 years or so

> and that he could

> tell it had been fixed before. When I first moved

> into my house 2 1/2

> years ago they had to put jacks under the house to

> hold up the

> hallway floor in front of the bathroom cause it was

> sagging so bad

> from I am guessing water damage. Ever since I have

> moved in this

> house I have had chronic sinus infections, losing my

> sense of smell

> for months at a time and alwyas having swollen nasal

> passages and

> lots of sinus headaches. My husband has an awful

> cough and has some

> breathing problems that he is seeing a pulmonary dr

> on the 23rd. Now

> I am getting concerned that maybe its all from the

> mold. I have an

> appt with an allergist to get testing done since my

> dr thinks i may

> be allergic to mold. When the came to fix the pipe

> they did not fix

> any of the water damage or do anything they replaced

> the base board

> and sheetrock but left all that wet icky mess in the

> walls. The wood

> in the walls was black and slimy and smelled awful.

> The bathroom

> floor they removed the top layer and put the new

> layer on top of the

> black nasty wet wood. I had them come out last

> friday cause the mold

> smell is so bad and they put lime under my house. I

> also bought a

> mold test today at lowes and did that, have a to

> wait a few days to

> get results on that. I am just worried and don't

> know what I should

> do. I have been reading stuff and am getting scared

> thinking I should

> move due to being always sick with sinus problems

> and I also have a

> three year old whose bedroom is beside the bathroom.

> My husband and I

> have fatigue big time but not sure if thats mold

> related or what. I

> just don't know if I should fight the housing office

> to try to get

> another house , this house is over 50 years old.

> Anyhow, I took pics

> of inside the wall when they were fixing the pipe,

> when they went

> outside I popped in the bathroom and snapped some

> pics. If anyone can

> tell me if they see mold or can identify anything or

> give me advice I

> would appreciate it. I am so worried about all this.

> Thanks in

> advance. Here is link to see my pics I took,

>

http://pg.photos./ph/snugglekittyyy24/album?.dir=2e8c & .src=ph

>

& store= & prodid= & .done=http%3a//photos./ph//my_photos

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

SnuggleKitty,

You really need to get yourself and your child out of there. I know

it's not as easy as it sounds. These toxins can affect your health

and your childs health for the rest of your lives, if exposure is

for any great length of time or at high levels for short periods of

time. I looked at your pictures and they leave alot to be desired,

obviously you have a very serious water intrusion issue. I don't

know what the proper procedures are that you would have to take with

the miltary, but you should take action as soon as possible. This

isn't the first time I have come across horrendous situations

concerning military housing or barracks, they are in deplorable

condition. I can't believe our soldiers that protect our country are

having to live in these conditions. Knowing first hand (including

the military)how it affects the neurological system and the lack of

capability of making quick decisive decisions on the battlefield

doesn't mix. Our miltary already knows about aflatoxins, why is it

different overseas than in their own military homes? I have also

received pictures from other military basis and most of them are in

the same shape.

KC

>

> Recently I noticed black mold on my baseboard in the bathroom. I

live

> in Military housing and they sent a repairman he was able to push

> right on through the wall cause it was mushy. I had a major water

> leak in some pipes that connect the bathroom sink and the kitchen

> sink. It had a huge hole in it and everytime you used the water it

> drained out of the hole into the wall. He also said he it had been

> leaking for a very long time probably 2 years or so and that he

could

> tell it had been fixed before. When I first moved into my house 2

1/2

> years ago they had to put jacks under the house to hold up the

> hallway floor in front of the bathroom cause it was sagging so bad

> from I am guessing water damage. Ever since I have moved in this

> house I have had chronic sinus infections, losing my sense of

smell

> for months at a time and alwyas having swollen nasal passages and

> lots of sinus headaches. My husband has an awful cough and has

some

> breathing problems that he is seeing a pulmonary dr on the 23rd.

Now

> I am getting concerned that maybe its all from the mold. I have an

> appt with an allergist to get testing done since my dr thinks i

may

> be allergic to mold. When the came to fix the pipe they did not

fix

> any of the water damage or do anything they replaced the base

board

> and sheetrock but left all that wet icky mess in the walls. The

wood

> in the walls was black and slimy and smelled awful. The bathroom

> floor they removed the top layer and put the new layer on top of

the

> black nasty wet wood. I had them come out last friday cause the

mold

> smell is so bad and they put lime under my house. I also bought a

> mold test today at lowes and did that, have a to wait a few days

to

> get results on that. I am just worried and don't know what I

should

> do. I have been reading stuff and am getting scared thinking I

should

> move due to being always sick with sinus problems and I also have

a

> three year old whose bedroom is beside the bathroom. My husband

and I

> have fatigue big time but not sure if thats mold related or what.

I

> just don't know if I should fight the housing office to try to get

> another house , this house is over 50 years old. Anyhow, I took

pics

> of inside the wall when they were fixing the pipe, when they went

> outside I popped in the bathroom and snapped some pics. If anyone

can

> tell me if they see mold or can identify anything or give me

advice I

> would appreciate it. I am so worried about all this. Thanks in

> advance. Here is link to see my pics I took,

>

http://pg.photos./ph/snugglekittyyy24/album?.dir=2e8c & .src=p

h

> & store= & prodid= & .done=http%3a//photos./ph//my_photos

>

[Guest guest]

Don't bother with the allergist- mold toxin is non-allergenic, so it

is a useless consept- I lost $2000 to an allergist- total waste of

time and money

>

> Recently I noticed black mold on my baseboard in the bathroom. I

live

> in Military housing and they sent a repairman he was able to push

> right on through the wall cause it was mushy. I had a major water

> leak in some pipes that connect the bathroom sink and the kitchen

> sink. It had a huge hole in it and everytime you used the water it

> drained out of the hole into the wall. He also said he it had been

> leaking for a very long time probably 2 years or so and that he

could

> tell it had been fixed before. When I first moved into my house 2

1/2

> years ago they had to put jacks under the house to hold up the

> hallway floor in front of the bathroom cause it was sagging so bad

> from I am guessing water damage. Ever since I have moved in this

> house I have had chronic sinus infections, losing my sense of

smell

> for months at a time and alwyas having swollen nasal passages and

> lots of sinus headaches. My husband has an awful cough and has

some

> breathing problems that he is seeing a pulmonary dr on the 23rd.

Now

> I am getting concerned that maybe its all from the mold. I have an

> appt with an allergist to get testing done since my dr thinks i

may

> be allergic to mold. When the came to fix the pipe they did not

fix

> any of the water damage or do anything they replaced the base

board

> and sheetrock but left all that wet icky mess in the walls. The

wood

> in the walls was black and slimy and smelled awful. The bathroom

> floor they removed the top layer and put the new layer on top of

the

> black nasty wet wood. I had them come out last friday cause the

mold

> smell is so bad and they put lime under my house. I also bought a

> mold test today at lowes and did that, have a to wait a few days

to

> get results on that. I am just worried and don't know what I

should

> do. I have been reading stuff and am getting scared thinking I

should

> move due to being always sick with sinus problems and I also have

a

> three year old whose bedroom is beside the bathroom. My husband

and I

> have fatigue big time but not sure if thats mold related or what.

I

> just don't know if I should fight the housing office to try to get

> another house , this house is over 50 years old. Anyhow, I took

pics

> of inside the wall when they were fixing the pipe, when they went

> outside I popped in the bathroom and snapped some pics. If anyone

can

> tell me if they see mold or can identify anything or give me

advice I

> would appreciate it. I am so worried about all this. Thanks in

> advance. Here is link to see my pics I took,

>

http://pg.photos./ph/snugglekittyyy24/album?.dir=2e8c & .src=p

h

> & store= & prodid= & .done=http%3a//photos./ph//my_photos

>

[Guest guest]

This is how my exposure started.. exactly... If its an option, you

HAVE to get another house.. immediately if its an option....

Tell them its unsafe..that you have children...

[Guest guest]

--- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@g...>

Thank you everyone for your replies. Its so hard to fight with the

Military about stuff like this so I have to find out everything I can

and then confront them . In the pictures of inside the wall could

anyone tell if that is mold. The wood was black and slimy and that

residue thats in the one pic on my brotherinlaws hand come off the

wood. I am so stressed out about this whole thing. I left a msg for

my dr cause the only way I can get an air test done for my house is

if my dr writes a note. I also started doing a at home mold test last

night. This morning I looked at it even though I know its way to

early , but it looked like there was a cloudy spot on the inside part

of the lid. The test did not have pictures showing what the test

would look like if it grew mold so I may have to call the 1800and ask

them. Its the one by Pro Lab. Its still to early to get results yet

on it since it said atleast 48 hours and I just did it last night. I

was also able to access the newspaper article that KC was telling me

about. Which was about a military family here where I am that was

getting sick from her house, she had to pay for it herself and move

offpost. I am hoping I don't have to move off post , I am hoping I

can fight and get moved into another home on base . So anyhow any

help letting me know if you can see anything in my pictures would

greatly help me. Thanks so much! Heres link to the pictures

http://pg.photos./ph/snugglekittyyy24/album?.dir=2e8c & .src=ph

& store= & prodid= & .done=http%3a//photos./ph//my_photos

PS they came and threw all this lime down yesterday, now you can't

smell the mold smell in the house as much all you can smell is that

horrible lime now. But if the mold is in between the walls the lime

wouldn't get rid of that would it? Thanks :)cara

wrote:

>

> This is how my exposure started.. exactly... If its an option, you

> HAVE to get another house.. immediately if its an option....

>

> Tell them its unsafe..that you have children...

>

[Guest guest]

Why are my antibodies so high on these mycotoxins if we can't develop allergic

reactions to them. Loni

carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote: Don't bother with the allergist-

mold toxin is non-allergenic, so it

is a useless consept- I lost $2000 to an allergist- total waste of

time and money

>

> Recently I noticed black mold on my baseboard in the bathroom. I

live

> in Military housing and they sent a repairman he was able to push

> right on through the wall cause it was mushy. I had a major water

> leak in some pipes that connect the bathroom sink and the kitchen

> sink. It had a huge hole in it and everytime you used the water it

> drained out of the hole into the wall. He also said he it had been

> leaking for a very long time probably 2 years or so and that he

could

> tell it had been fixed before. When I first moved into my house 2

1/2

> years ago they had to put jacks under the house to hold up the

> hallway floor in front of the bathroom cause it was sagging so bad

> from I am guessing water damage. Ever since I have moved in this

> house I have had chronic sinus infections, losing my sense of

smell

> for months at a time and alwyas having swollen nasal passages and

> lots of sinus headaches. My husband has an awful cough and has

some

> breathing problems that he is seeing a pulmonary dr on the 23rd.

Now

> I am getting concerned that maybe its all from the mold. I have an

> appt with an allergist to get testing done since my dr thinks i

may

> be allergic to mold. When the came to fix the pipe they did not

fix

> any of the water damage or do anything they replaced the base

board

> and sheetrock but left all that wet icky mess in the walls. The

wood

> in the walls was black and slimy and smelled awful. The bathroom

> floor they removed the top layer and put the new layer on top of

the

> black nasty wet wood. I had them come out last friday cause the

mold

> smell is so bad and they put lime under my house. I also bought a

> mold test today at lowes and did that, have a to wait a few days

to

> get results on that. I am just worried and don't know what I

should

> do. I have been reading stuff and am getting scared thinking I

should

> move due to being always sick with sinus problems and I also have

a

> three year old whose bedroom is beside the bathroom. My husband

and I

> have fatigue big time but not sure if thats mold related or what.

I

> just don't know if I should fight the housing office to try to get

> another house , this house is over 50 years old. Anyhow, I took

pics

> of inside the wall when they were fixing the pipe, when they went

> outside I popped in the bathroom and snapped some pics. If anyone

can

> tell me if they see mold or can identify anything or give me

advice I

> would appreciate it. I am so worried about all this. Thanks in

> advance. Here is link to see my pics I took,

>

http://pg.photos./ph/snugglekittyyy24/album?.dir=2e8c & .src=p

h

> & store= & prodid= & .done=http%3a//photos./ph//my_photos

>

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I am not a dr, and the differences describing our problems are for

those smartter than me. Serena wrote a great description about a

month ago. a teaching pharmacist I know said allergy testing only

shows that you have mounted an immune response to a substance. He

did not think that allergy shots helped anyone, that they were

medieval torture. My allergy testing showed that I was allergic to 3

different types of mold, I think he tested for 7 types. I told the

allergist that I thought I had mycotoxosis, but he said all my

problems were do to an allergy- the shots were bad- made me sick- I

found this site and stopped them. As far as my understanding, mold

toxin turn on inflammation- then we become " allergic " to everything-

(universel reponder, or Pan-allergic) as the imflamation subsides,

these " allergies " also subside. But strictly speaking , everything I

have ever read says mycotoxins are non-allergenic- but toxic-

-- In , Loni Rosser <loni326@y...>

wrote:

>

> Why are my antibodies so high on these mycotoxins if we can't

develop allergic reactions to them. Loni

>

> carondeen <kdeanstudios@v...> wrote: Don't bother with the

allergist- mold toxin is non-allergenic, so it

> is a useless consept- I lost $2000 to an allergist- total waste of

> time and money

>

>

> >

> > Recently I noticed black mold on my baseboard in the bathroom. I

> live

> > in Military housing and they sent a repairman he was able to

push

> > right on through the wall cause it was mushy. I had a major

water

> > leak in some pipes that connect the bathroom sink and the

kitchen

> > sink. It had a huge hole in it and everytime you used the water

it

> > drained out of the hole into the wall. He also said he it had

been

> > leaking for a very long time probably 2 years or so and that he

> could

> > tell it had been fixed before. When I first moved into my house

2

> 1/2

> > years ago they had to put jacks under the house to hold up the

> > hallway floor in front of the bathroom cause it was sagging so

bad

> > from I am guessing water damage. Ever since I have moved in this

> > house I have had chronic sinus infections, losing my sense of

> smell

> > for months at a time and alwyas having swollen nasal passages

and

> > lots of sinus headaches. My husband has an awful cough and has

> some

> > breathing problems that he is seeing a pulmonary dr on the 23rd.

> Now

> > I am getting concerned that maybe its all from the mold. I have

an

> > appt with an allergist to get testing done since my dr thinks i

> may

> > be allergic to mold. When the came to fix the pipe they did not

> fix

> > any of the water damage or do anything they replaced the base

> board

> > and sheetrock but left all that wet icky mess in the walls. The

> wood

> > in the walls was black and slimy and smelled awful. The bathroom

> > floor they removed the top layer and put the new layer on top of

> the

> > black nasty wet wood. I had them come out last friday cause the

> mold

> > smell is so bad and they put lime under my house. I also bought

a

> > mold test today at lowes and did that, have a to wait a few days

> to

> > get results on that. I am just worried and don't know what I

> should

> > do. I have been reading stuff and am getting scared thinking I

> should

> > move due to being always sick with sinus problems and I also

have

> a

> > three year old whose bedroom is beside the bathroom. My husband

> and I

> > have fatigue big time but not sure if thats mold related or

what.

> I

> > just don't know if I should fight the housing office to try to

get

> > another house , this house is over 50 years old. Anyhow, I took

> pics

> > of inside the wall when they were fixing the pipe, when they

went

> > outside I popped in the bathroom and snapped some pics. If

anyone

> can

> > tell me if they see mold or can identify anything or give me

> advice I

> > would appreciate it. I am so worried about all this. Thanks in

> > advance. Here is link to see my pics I took,

> >

>

http://pg.photos./ph/snugglekittyyy24/album?.dir=2e8c & .src=p

> h

> > & store= & prodid= & .done=http%3a//photos./ph//my_photos

> >

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[Guest guest]

The symptoms you and your husband are showing are all consistent with

chronic high level mold exposure. And, the description you give of your

house is exactly what a bad mold problem can look and smell like.

Unfortunately, most military bases have housing shortages, so getting

another house is unlikely, unless you are transferred to a different base.

Also, unfortunately, most base housing directors are not aware of the health

and building damage consequences of mold. Fort Meade land is the eastern

base of the army's Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine

(CHPPM). When my son was in that unit, I had the opportunity to meet some of

the professional staff, and found some to be quite knowledgeable in mold

health effects, and trying, often futily, to direct the army to improve

housing. They did at least succeed in getting Ft. Meade to demolish some of

its unsafe housing. I was directed to one of their web pages,

http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/mold/

This is an excellent place for you to start reading, and show the info you

find to your base housing officer. Since it is a military site empasizing

health efects, you will have far more liklihood of being taken seriously.

Good luck.

Gil

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:27:49 -0000

From: " SnuggleKitty " <greeneyedchic75@...>

Subject: Help with water damage mold

Recently I noticed black mold on my baseboard in the bathroom. I live

in Military housing and they sent a repairman he was able to push

right on through the wall cause it was mushy. I had a major water

leak in some pipes that connect the bathroom sink and the kitchen

sink. It had a huge hole in it and everytime you used the water it

drained out of the hole into the wall. He also said he it had been

leaking for a very long time probably 2 years or so and that he could

tell it had been fixed before. When I first moved into my house 2 1/2

years ago they had to put jacks under the house to hold up the

hallway floor in front of the bathroom cause it was sagging so bad

from I am guessing water damage. Ever since I have moved in this

house I have had chronic sinus infections, losing my sense of smell

for months at a time and alwyas having swollen nasal passages and

lots of sinus headaches. My husband has an awful cough and has some

breathing problems that he is seeing a pulmonary dr on the 23rd. Now

I am getting concerned that maybe its all from the mold. I have an

appt with an allergist to get testing done since my dr thinks i may

be allergic to mold. When the came to fix the pipe they did not fix

any of the water damage or do anything they replaced the base board

and sheetrock but left all that wet icky mess in the walls. The wood

in the walls was black and slimy and smelled awful. The bathroom

floor they removed the top layer and put the new layer on top of the

black nasty wet wood. I had them come out last friday cause the mold

smell is so bad and they put lime under my house. I also bought a

mold test today at lowes and did that, have a to wait a few days to

get results on that. I am just worried and don't know what I should

do. I have been reading stuff and am getting scared thinking I should

move due to being always sick with sinus problems and I also have a

three year old whose bedroom is beside the bathroom. My husband and I

have fatigue big time but not sure if thats mold related or what. I

just don't know if I should fight the housing office to try to get

another house , this house is over 50 years old. Anyhow, I took pics

of inside the wall when they were fixing the pipe, when they went

outside I popped in the bathroom and snapped some pics. If anyone can

tell me if they see mold or can identify anything or give me advice I

would appreciate it. I am so worried about all this. Thanks in

advance. Here is link to see my pics I took,

http://pg.photos./ph/snugglekittyyy24/album?.dir=2e8c & .src=ph

& store= & prodid= & .done=http%3a//photos./ph//my_photos

[Guest guest]

Here is a resource oriented to military folks that gives a good

overview of what you may be dealing with..

http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1018.5/index.html

in particularly, I would look at the last 2/3 of Chapter 4 on toxins,

which deals with myco-toxins..

(poisons from fungi) from a biological warfare perspective..

There are some good descriptions there of what the effects of chronic

low-level mycotoxin exposure are.. many are similar to what a lot of

people here have experienced..