de-toxing your stuff

[Guest guest]

Well, I have good news for anyone wishing to de-contaminate their

belongings- after one year in an ozone room- my woolen jackets that I

left in there are OK- I got dressed up tonight in my old woolen jacket

and overcoat and went out , and did not burn the hide off of me. The

items that had been storred without oxone machine are still

radioactive- so I know it was the ozone that made the difference.

also, items storred in a closed box are still bad, but anything out in

the ozone seems OK, also it bleached writting totally off the paper-

so may not be an acceptable remediation process for everything. I am

just sorry that I ruined so many valuable things trying to clean them-

allso threw away most everyting. But there is hope for my paintings, I

will put them in the shed with the ozone generator as soo as possible.

[Guest guest]

Interesting!

I have tried this too, but after a while for me it seems to make some

things *more* reactive - perhaps in a different way. (carpets)

And greasy/gunky/dirty as all the tiny dust particles adhere to things

left out with ion generators around.. (I'm assuming that ion

generators and ozone generators are the same thing.. what I was using

were air ionizers..)

It also makes rubber bands (and anything made out of soft rubber)

disintegrate. Thats what scared me about them and why I don't use them

in active living spaces.. They seem to oxidize things very rapidly..

(This may also apply to people!)

(I have heard that its dangerous to work right next to a busy copier

or laser printer for that reason.)

Perhaps there is a time/ionization level where some mold activity is

neutralized.. but then if you let it fry beyond that, the tendency of

ionized objects to attract dust begins to make them ooze dirt..

Note, I live in an semi-urban environment with its share of dust.. so

this situation may not apply to others..

On 1/13/06, carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote:

> Well, I have good news for anyone wishing to de-contaminate their

> belongings- after one year in an ozone room- my woolen jackets that I

> left in there are OK- I got dressed up tonight in my old woolen jacket

> and overcoat and went out , and did not burn the hide off of me. The

> items that had been storred without oxone machine are still

> radioactive- so I know it was the ozone that made the difference.

> also, items storred in a closed box are still bad, but anything out in

> the ozone seems OK, also it bleached writting totally off the paper-

> so may not be an acceptable remediation process for everything. I am

> just sorry that I ruined so many valuable things trying to clean them-

> allso threw away most everyting. But there is hope for my paintings, I

> will put them in the shed with the ozone generator as soo as possible.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ozone and Ionization are different,from what I have read, Yes? and

as anyone on this list for long can tell you, you don't want to

ozone with people around. Also , as I have said many times before ,

do not attempt remediation with ozone, ozone may in fact kill mold,

but it will make it release all its toxin first, and make

remediation impossible, as everything- will be contaminated with

toxin- and could possible kill you outright if the colony is big

enough. That said, your contaminated, but pre-cleaned of spores as

well as you can items, in a closed clean enviroment, can by my

experience be de-contaminated faster if they are in ozone.

-- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@g...>

wr ote:

>

> Interesting!

>

> I have tried this too, but after a while for me it seems to make

some

> things *more* reactive - perhaps in a different way. (carpets)

>

> And greasy/gunky/dirty as all the tiny dust particles adhere to

things

> left out with ion generators around.. (I'm assuming that ion

> generators and ozone generators are the same thing.. what I was

using

> were air ionizers..)

>

> It also makes rubber bands (and anything made out of soft rubber)

> disintegrate. Thats what scared me about them and why I don't use

them

> in active living spaces.. They seem to oxidize things very

rapidly..

> (This may also apply to people!)

>

> (I have heard that its dangerous to work right next to a busy

copier

> or laser printer for that reason.)

>

> Perhaps there is a time/ionization level where some mold activity

is

> neutralized.. but then if you let it fry beyond that, the tendency

of

> ionized objects to attract dust begins to make them ooze dirt..

>

> Note, I live in an semi-urban environment with its share of dust..

so

> this situation may not apply to others..

>

>

> On 1/13/06, carondeen <kdeanstudios@v...> wrote:

> > Well, I have good news for anyone wishing to de-contaminate their

> > belongings- after one year in an ozone room- my woolen jackets

that I

> > left in there are OK- I got dressed up tonight in my old woolen

jacket

> > and overcoat and went out , and did not burn the hide off of me.

The

> > items that had been storred without oxone machine are still

> > radioactive- so I know it was the ozone that made the difference.

> > also, items storred in a closed box are still bad, but anything

out in

> > the ozone seems OK, also it bleached writting totally off the

paper-

> > so may not be an acceptable remediation process for everything.

I am

> > just sorry that I ruined so many valuable things trying to clean

them-

> > allso threw away most everyting. But there is hope for my

paintings, I

> > will put them in the shed with the ozone generator as soo as

possible.

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

How are ionizers and ozone generators different?

I have dissassembled a lot of cheap ionizers. The only difference I

can see between them and what are marketed as ozone generators is

price...

(ionizers basically are voltage multipliers that take an ac or dc

voltage and step it up to 10000 volts or more dc, but at a very low

current - this makes ions bleed off of pointy parts of the charged

surface, transforming oxygen into ozone.. like in a copyer or printer

that uses toner..)