Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

[Guest guest]

Janice Wells wrote:

> Pure grain alcohol, white lightening...................yee haw

Yeah, I've not have the er, guts to try to drink any, but I get it at the

liquor store here in Missouri...Patti

[Guest guest]

I use activated aquarium charcoal in a paper coffee filter to run the

Everclear through to get rid of the fusel oil (when alcohol is distilled,

oils from the grain or other material come over in the distillate. This is

what gives it that nasty " bite " ). It helps remove the alcohol " smell " that

can alter a fragrance.

Vodka manufacturers also remove fusel oils with charcoal filtration.

> I buy the ethyl alcohol. However, I filtered denatured through charcoal

and it took out most of the smell. (I use a Brita water filter > and poured

the alcohol through right before changing the filter.) Wonder if the

charcoal filters for fish tanks would work.

[Guest guest]

There are different grades of denatured alcohol. Look for grade 39C which

is recommended specifically for perfumery.

> My husband picked up a can of de-natured alcohol for me from the hardware

> store. I'm wondering if this is the type of de-natured alcohol I should be

> using.

>

> The can says 'no prolonged use on skin', and says it should be washed off

> promptly.

>

> Wrong de-natured alcohol? And how can I tell which is the ''right " one?

[Guest guest]

Let me get this straight. All I have to do is pour

the Everclear through a filter and it becomes

denatured alcohol and I can sell this product???

What about this smelly, yucky stuff I bought from the

hardware store? Trash it?

Marcelle

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[Guest guest]

Perhaps you missed the original post on this...check the archives.

> Let me get this straight. All I have to do is pour

> the Everclear through a filter and it becomes

> denatured alcohol and I can sell this product???

> What about this smelly, yucky stuff I bought from the

> hardware store? Trash it?

[Guest guest]

Actually, the rulings on whether you an sell a body

splash/linen spray using everclear (or other consumable

alcohol) is dependant upon the state laws for the state you

live in.

In Oregon there are no restrictions. Up until Jan 1 this

year you had to get a license (nominal fee) but that was

recinded with new legislation.

Other states are different - some are very strict about it

(with raids and fines and such).

Call the Liquor or Alcohol board for your state to find out

the rules.

Marie Gale

Chandler's Soaps

All natural soaps and body care products made by hand on the

Chandler Ranch in Southwest Oregon.

www.chandlerssoaps.com <http://www.chandlerssoaps.com>

Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

Also, since we went through this thread before,

remember that you can't sell any linen sprays or bath

splashes made with alcohol as an ingredient unless you

are licensed to do so... especially Everclear!

MK

--- Grammycurtis@... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/22/2001 5:38:36 PM Central

> Daylight Time,

> sierra@... writes:

>

>

> >

>

> I found out on another list when we went through

> this same thread, not all

> states allow sale of everclear. I couldn't believe

> it. If it is available,

> you should be able to get it at a liquor store. It's

> pretty much what the

> bartenders use for the flaming drinks because it's

> so combustible. Like the

> lady said..............YEE HAW!! GRAMMY

>

> Robin Curtis, Savonier

> shopowners

> www.aromagardencreations.com

> email: grammycurtis@...

> P.U.S.H.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This brutal treatment I am getting is uncalled for. I

didn't tell someone to check the posts to be rude. I

have a full time job and a summer class at the local

college at night. Sometimes I only get a few minutes

to check my mail in between work and class.

When I saw the request for me to repeat all the info

the person had missed, I knew I didn't have time to

respond. I had considered just deleting the email and

going on my merry way hoping someone else would answer

them. But, I thought ignoring the email would be the

rude thing to do. So, I referred the person to the

archives since all the info they were looking for was

there.

Next time I don't have time to answer someone, I will

delete the email and say nothing at all. Not the

" neighborly " thing to do in my book, but, heck... if

that's what is preferred, that's what I will do.

Marcelle

Perhaps you missed the original post on this...check

the archives.

> Let me get this straight. All I have to do is pour

> the Everclear through a filter and it becomes

> denatured alcohol and I can sell this product???

> What about this smelly, yucky stuff I bought from

the

> hardware store? Trash it?

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[Guest guest]

no, denatured means that it is not potable (drinkable). Doesn't mean

that you can't use potable liquor.

NEVER, and I mean NEVER use the denatured alcohol that the hardware

store sells in toiletries - it is absolutely NOT safe for that purpose

and is DEFINITELY not approved by the FDA. That stuff is frequently

denatured with kerosene.

Yes, trash it, or use it to dissolve shellac and give your cupboards a

new finish...

> Let me get this straight. All I have to do is pour

> the Everclear through a filter and it becomes

> denatured alcohol and I can sell this product???

> What about this smelly, yucky stuff I bought from the

> hardware store? Trash it?

> Marcelle

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I don't guess you could take the stuff back to the hardware store for a refund?

Karyn

*who has wasted a lot of money trying to learn the business*

> Let me get this straight. All I have to do is pour

> the Everclear through a filter and it becomes

> denatured alcohol and I can sell this product???

> What about this smelly, yucky stuff I bought from the

> hardware store? Trash it?

> Marcelle

[Guest guest]

--- ny & Karyn <karyn@...> wrote:

> I don't guess you could take the stuff back to the

> hardware store for a refund?

> Karyn

I guess I could have phrased that question

differently. I was wondering if the yucky stuff I got

from the hardware store only needed filtering to take

away that smell, and then would be usable. But,

someone else answered the question quite nicely. They

said that the hardware stuff is denatured with

kerosene and can't be used for toiletries products at

all.

I guess there are many similar names for ingredient

products and it's easy not to readily understand

what's what when the names are so close.

Marcelle

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[Guest guest]

Soapwizards.com sells a bath splash already made, but it is unscented and

all you do is add your own scents, colors, etc.

Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

>

> > Yah, I did the same thing. I got it at Chem Lab and they said

> that's what all the soap makers order for perfume etc. I can't

> imaging using it either and it is still sitting unused in my

> cabinet. Anyone know about this?

>

> na, there are umteen formulas for denaturing alcohol. Rubbing

> alcohol is denatured alcohol, but you certainly wouldn't want to use

> it in something like a splash because it would be very difficult-if

> not impossible-to cover up the smell. 39-C or 40-B are generally used

> for splash. It is more difficult to get the 39-C but if you can get

> it, that is better for splash as it is also used in fine perfumes.

>

> Someone else asked why it is against the law to sell products made

> with vodka. You must remember that when you are dealing with alcohol,

> you are not only dealing with Federal regulations, but also State

> regulations. The Fed is mainly interested in collecting their tax. To

> purchase denatured in large quantities-over 5 gallons per year-you

> must purchase a permit from the Tobacco, alcohol, and firearms dept.

> this is the means used to collect the Fed tax. If you buy booze

> (vodka) in the store, you pay the tax, so the Fed don't care what you

> do with it.

>

> Each State is a whole different ballgame. All States have restrictive

> laws on the sale of booze. In many States it can only be sold in a

> bar or an offsale. Even in the States that allow it to be sold in

> grocery stores have strick rules and licensing laws. It is usually

> very difficult to get a liqor license in any State to sell booze to

> the public. When you put vodka in a product that you sell to the

> public, you are doing so without a liquor license and this is where

> you are breaking State law.

>

> Pat.

> Peace, Joy, Serenity.

> www.houseofscents.com

> Cosmeticinfo

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Now I like soapwizards and all, but I don't think that

it is worth the money to buy a splash base when you

can make it for so much less! Just my thoughts - I

bought some base from them and then made some myself

with witch hazel and water and it was just fine.

Jenn

--- Tammy Semelbauer <T_Semelbauer@...>

wrote:

> Soapwizards.com sells a bath splash already made,

> but it is unscented and

> all you do is add your own scents, colors, etc.

>

> Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

>

>

> >

> > > Yah, I did the same thing. I got it at Chem Lab

> and they said

> > that's what all the soap makers order for perfume

> etc. I can't

> > imaging using it either and it is still sitting

> unused in my

> > cabinet. Anyone know about this?

> >

> > na, there are umteen formulas for denaturing

> alcohol. Rubbing

> > alcohol is denatured alcohol, but you certainly

> wouldn't want to use

> > it in something like a splash because it would be

> very difficult-if

> > not impossible-to cover up the smell. 39-C or 40-B

> are generally used

> > for splash. It is more difficult to get the 39-C

> but if you can get

> > it, that is better for splash as it is also used

> in fine perfumes.

> >

> > Someone else asked why it is against the law to

> sell products made

> > with vodka. You must remember that when you are

> dealing with alcohol,

> > you are not only dealing with Federal regulations,

> but also State

> > regulations. The Fed is mainly interested in

> collecting their tax. To

> > purchase denatured in large quantities-over 5

> gallons per year-you

> > must purchase a permit from the Tobacco, alcohol,

> and firearms dept.

> > this is the means used to collect the Fed tax. If

> you buy booze

> > (vodka) in the store, you pay the tax, so the Fed

> don't care what you

> > do with it.

> >

> > Each State is a whole different ballgame. All

> States have restrictive

> > laws on the sale of booze. In many States it can

> only be sold in a

> > bar or an offsale. Even in the States that allow

> it to be sold in

> > grocery stores have strick rules and licensing

> laws. It is usually

> > very difficult to get a liqor license in any State

> to sell booze to

> > the public. When you put vodka in a product that

> you sell to the

> > public, you are doing so without a liquor license

> and this is where

> > you are breaking State law.

> >

> > Pat.

> > Peace, Joy, Serenity.

> > www.houseofscents.com

> > Cosmeticinfo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Would you so kind as to pass along your recipe?

Karyn

*who just ordered another case !*

Now I like soapwizards and all, but I don't think that

it is worth the money to buy a splash base when you

can make it for so much less! Just my thoughts - I

bought some base from them and then made some myself

with witch hazel and water and it was just fine.

Jenn

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[Guest guest]

Great, Will you share the how to?

Grins,

Kaye

Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

>

>

> >

> > > Yah, I did the same thing. I got it at Chem Lab

> and they said

> > that's what all the soap makers order for perfume

> etc. I can't

> > imaging using it either and it is still sitting

> unused in my

> > cabinet. Anyone know about this?

> >

> > na, there are umteen formulas for denaturing

> alcohol. Rubbing

> > alcohol is denatured alcohol, but you certainly

> wouldn't want to use

> > it in something like a splash because it would be

> very difficult-if

> > not impossible-to cover up the smell. 39-C or 40-B

> are generally used

> > for splash. It is more difficult to get the 39-C

> but if you can get

> > it, that is better for splash as it is also used

> in fine perfumes.

> >

> > Someone else asked why it is against the law to

> sell products made

> > with vodka. You must remember that when you are

> dealing with alcohol,

> > you are not only dealing with Federal regulations,

> but also State

> > regulations. The Fed is mainly interested in

> collecting their tax. To

> > purchase denatured in large quantities-over 5

> gallons per year-you

> > must purchase a permit from the Tobacco, alcohol,

> and firearms dept.

> > this is the means used to collect the Fed tax. If

> you buy booze

> > (vodka) in the store, you pay the tax, so the Fed

> don't care what you

> > do with it.

> >

> > Each State is a whole different ballgame. All

> States have restrictive

> > laws on the sale of booze. In many States it can

> only be sold in a

> > bar or an offsale. Even in the States that allow

> it to be sold in

> > grocery stores have strick rules and licensing

> laws. It is usually

> > very difficult to get a liqor license in any State

> to sell booze to

> > the public. When you put vodka in a product that

> you sell to the

> > public, you are doing so without a liquor license

> and this is where

> > you are breaking State law.

> >

> > Pat.

> > Peace, Joy, Serenity.

> > www.houseofscents.com

> > Cosmeticinfo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Depends on the recipe. Some say half water, half witch

hazel, others say all witch hazel. I do all water, a

little sugar to help mix and some scent... make sure

you list " shak before using " . I use one at home and

love it. To be honest, I do the same for linen spray

and room freshener and it sells great! For cer

freshener I put more scent into a smaller bottle so it

lasts longer and is stronger).

Hope this helps.

Jenn

--- Urban <capitolia@...> wrote:

> Great, Will you share the how to?

> Grins,

> Kaye

>

> Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > Yah, I did the same thing. I got it at Chem

> Lab

> > and they said

> > > that's what all the soap makers order for

> perfume

> > etc. I can't

> > > imaging using it either and it is still sitting

> > unused in my

> > > cabinet. Anyone know about this?

> > >

> > > na, there are umteen formulas for

> denaturing

> > alcohol. Rubbing

> > > alcohol is denatured alcohol, but you certainly

> > wouldn't want to use

> > > it in something like a splash because it would

> be

> > very difficult-if

> > > not impossible-to cover up the smell. 39-C or

> 40-B

> > are generally used

> > > for splash. It is more difficult to get the 39-C

> > but if you can get

> > > it, that is better for splash as it is also used

> > in fine perfumes.

> > >

> > > Someone else asked why it is against the law to

> > sell products made

> > > with vodka. You must remember that when you are

> > dealing with alcohol,

> > > you are not only dealing with Federal

> regulations,

> > but also State

> > > regulations. The Fed is mainly interested in

> > collecting their tax. To

> > > purchase denatured in large quantities-over 5

> > gallons per year-you

> > > must purchase a permit from the Tobacco,

> alcohol,

> > and firearms dept.

> > > this is the means used to collect the Fed tax.

> If

> > you buy booze

> > > (vodka) in the store, you pay the tax, so the

> Fed

> > don't care what you

> > > do with it.

> > >

> > > Each State is a whole different ballgame. All

> > States have restrictive

> > > laws on the sale of booze. In many States it can

> > only be sold in a

> > > bar or an offsale. Even in the States that allow

> > it to be sold in

> > > grocery stores have strick rules and licensing

> > laws. It is usually

> > > very difficult to get a liqor license in any

> State

> > to sell booze to

> > > the public. When you put vodka in a product that

> > you sell to the

> > > public, you are doing so without a liquor

> license

> > and this is where

> > > you are breaking State law.

> > >

> > > Pat.

> > > Peace, Joy, Serenity.

> > > www.houseofscents.com

> > > Cosmeticinfo

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

--- Cat <saturner@...> wrote:

> I use activated aquarium charcoal in a paper coffee

> filter to run the

> Everclear through to get rid of the fusel oil (when

> alcohol is distilled,

> oils from the grain or other material come over in

> the distillate. This is

> what gives it that nasty " bite " ). It helps remove

> the alcohol " smell " that

> can alter a fragrance.

> Vodka manufacturers also remove fusel oils with

> charcoal filtration.

>

> > I buy the ethyl alcohol. However, I filtered

> denatured through charcoal

> and it took out most of the smell. (I use a Brita

> water filter > and poured

> the alcohol through right before changing the

> filter.) Wonder if the

> charcoal filters for fish tanks would work.

>

>

>

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