Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

[Guest guest]

What is polysorbate? Does it make the water mix with the oils?

na

Bath Splash/Linen Spray

I just got my polysorbate that I want to try it for

bath splash and linen spray recipes. I know I use the

polysorbate on a one-to-one ratio with the EO/FE, but

how do I calculate how much water?

Then, when I want to adapt this recipe, I will add

rosemary extract and color. How much rosemary extract

do I add?

Thanks for the recipe help.

Marcelle

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

>

>I just got my polysorbate that I want to try it for

>bath splash and linen spray recipes. I know I use the

>polysorbate on a one-to-one ratio with the EO/FE, but

>how do I calculate how much water?

>Then, when I want to adapt this recipe, I will add

>rosemary extract and color. How much rosemary extract

>do I add?

>Thanks for the recipe help.

>Marcelle

HI Marcelle,

When I used it to make my last batches I did not use is in equal parts of

the oils that I added. They had NO guidelines with the products to help

know what to do so when I needed splashes I was making them knowing I would

have to put a label with " Shake well Before Use " on it. I will try using

it in this manner and see how it does. It does cloud the mixture, seems

there is no way to get away from that. Seems they are saying when using it

in this manner it seems that the amount of water or alcohol does not matter

as long as the amounts used of the Polysorbate and oils are the same when

used. ?? Might just work well. Oh and I do heat the water/alcohol to about

100 or so and then use it. Don't even know it that is necessary, no

guidelines there either. And because I use a 50% or more alcohol base I do

not use a preservative in it. I do add a bit of Veg Glycerin to it also

along with a bit of Jojoba. Does not give any drying to the skin with those

additions. I use about 1/2 tsp of Glycerin per 32 oz and about 1 tsp of

Jojoba to 32 oz. Sorry hon that I could not be more help. TTYS :-)

**********

Rita...Homeschooling Mom in Georgia

TLC Soaps & Sundries http://www.tlcsoaps.com/soapmaking.htm

TLC Soap/Cutter Molds™, TLC Soap Curing Bin™ and TLC Soaps Jeweler™

[Guest guest]

Actually, that was quite helpful. What kind of

alcohol do you use?

Marcelle

--- Rita <rcsoap@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >I just got my polysorbate that I want to try it for

> >bath splash and linen spray recipes. I know I use

> the

> >polysorbate on a one-to-one ratio with the EO/FE,

> but

> >how do I calculate how much water?

> >Then, when I want to adapt this recipe, I will add

> >rosemary extract and color. How much rosemary

> extract

> >do I add?

> >Thanks for the recipe help.

> >Marcelle

>

> HI Marcelle,

>

> When I used it to make my last batches I did not use

> is in equal parts of

> the oils that I added. They had NO guidelines with

> the products to help

> know what to do so when I needed splashes I was

> making them knowing I would

> have to put a label with " Shake well Before Use " on

> it. I will try using

> it in this manner and see how it does. It does cloud

> the mixture, seems

> there is no way to get away from that. Seems they

> are saying when using it

> in this manner it seems that the amount of water or

> alcohol does not matter

> as long as the amounts used of the Polysorbate and

> oils are the same when

> used. ?? Might just work well. Oh and I do heat the

> water/alcohol to about

> 100 or so and then use it. Don't even know it that

> is necessary, no

> guidelines there either. And because I use a 50% or

> more alcohol base I do

> not use a preservative in it. I do add a bit of Veg

> Glycerin to it also

> along with a bit of Jojoba. Does not give any drying

> to the skin with those

> additions. I use about 1/2 tsp of Glycerin per 32 oz

> and about 1 tsp of

> Jojoba to 32 oz. Sorry hon that I could not be more

> help. TTYS :-)

>

> **********

> Rita...Homeschooling Mom in Georgia

> TLC Soaps & Sundries

> http://www.tlcsoaps.com/soapmaking.htm

> TLC Soap/Cutter Molds™, TLC Soap Curing Bin™ and TLC

> Soaps Jeweler™

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Supposedly. However, I haven't seen it making any

difference than the same recipe without the

polysorbate. You still need the alcohol, still came

out as cloudy as the recipe without it, so....

Marcelle

--- ExactaPhoto@... wrote:

> What is polysorbate? Does it make the water mix

> with the oils?

> na

>

> Bath Splash/Linen Spray

>

>

> I just got my polysorbate that I want to try it

> for

> bath splash and linen spray recipes. I know I use

> the

> polysorbate on a one-to-one ratio with the EO/FE,

> but

> how do I calculate how much water?

> Then, when I want to adapt this recipe, I will add

> rosemary extract and color. How much rosemary

> extract

> do I add?

> Thanks for the recipe help.

> Marcelle

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcelle:

Have you tried using grain or 39C denatured alcohol? The higher proofage is

necessary to avoid clouding. I haven't used polysorbate, so I can't be of

much help there, but I have had excellent results using Everclear and

distilled alcohol.

Fixed oils like jojoba will not emulsify in it, I prefer glycerine as a

fixative for the scent.

Here is a recipe I use:

2 oz. ethyl alcohol

2 oz. distilled water (or rose or orange flower water)

50 drops e.o. or f.o.

1 tsp. glycerine

Dissolve the e.o.'s in the alcohol, slowly add the distilled water to the

alcohol. Add the glycerine.

> Supposedly. However, I haven't seen it making any

> difference than the same recipe without the

> polysorbate. You still need the alcohol, still came

> out as cloudy as the recipe without it, so....

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/22/2001 5:38:36 PM Central Daylight Time,

sierra@... writes:

>

I found out on another list when we went through this same thread, not all

states allow sale of everclear. I couldn't believe it. If it is available,

you should be able to get it at a liquor store. It's pretty much what the

bartenders use for the flaming drinks because it's so combustible. Like the

lady said..............YEE HAW!! GRAMMY

Robin Curtis, Savonier

shopowners

www.aromagardencreations.com

email: grammycurtis@...

P.U.S.H.

[Guest guest]

I have had excellent results

> using Everclear

I was using Everclear

I prefer glycerine as a

> fixative for the scent.

I haven't tried that. Sounds good for the bath splash

but is it OK in linen spray???

>

Marcelle

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcelle:

The glycerine is included to slow the evaporation rate and make the scent

longer lasting...it also acts as a moisturizer (actually a humectant) on the

skin. In a linen spray, its not really needed. (I wonder if it could stain

fabric?)

> I haven't tried that. Sounds good for the bath splash

> but is it OK in linen spray???

[Guest guest]

What is Everclear and where do you get it?

Thanks,

Kathleen

Marcelle Karustis wrote:

> I have had excellent results

> > using Everclear

>

> I was using Everclear

>

[Guest guest]

Pure grain alcohol, white lightening...................yee haw

Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

> What is Everclear and where do you get it?

>

> Thanks,

> Kathleen

>

> Marcelle Karustis wrote:

>

> > I have had excellent results

> > > using Everclear

> >

> > I was using Everclear

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ohooooo, good ole white lighting! I don't think that any of our liquor stores

here in Akron, Ohio carry it. Where did you get it? Do you have your own

" Still " in your back yard<LOL>

Kathleen

Janice Wells wrote:

> Pure grain alcohol, white lightening...................yee haw

> ----- Original Message -----

>

> > What is Everclear and where do you get it?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Kathleen

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually we have friends that make it....................lol

Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

> Ohooooo, good ole white lighting! I don't think that any of our liquor

stores

> here in Akron, Ohio carry it. Where did you get it? Do you have your own

> " Still " in your back yard<LOL>

>

> Kathleen

>

> Janice Wells wrote:

>

> > Pure grain alcohol, white lightening...................yee haw

> > ----- Original Message -----

>

> >

> > > What is Everclear and where do you get it?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Kathleen

> > >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Everclear is not readily available in every state.

Some carry it in the liquor stores or liquor section of grocery stores and

some states require a license from the state to buy it and some states

refuse to sell it.

A high proof vodka will work just as well if you can't obtain Everclear.

lynn in valencia

lavender bluffs bath and body

" A little touch of heaven in your bath "

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn:

Hope all is well with you!

From personal experience, if you are going to use vodka, don't add water to

it....vodka is already about half water and remember oil and water don't

mix! ;-)

> Everclear is not readily available in every state.

> Some carry it in the liquor stores or liquor section of grocery stores and

> some states require a license from the state to buy it and some states

> refuse to sell it.

> A high proof vodka will work just as well if you can't obtain Everclear.

[Guest guest]

Cat,

Would you then just increase the amount of Vodka to make up for not using the

water that is called?

Also, I want to color some of my Bath Splash, what do you suggest I use?

Thanks,

Kathleen

Cat wrote:

>

> >From personal experience, if you are going to use vodka, don't add water to

> it....vodka is already about half water and remember oil and water don't

> mix! ;-)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Also, since we went through this thread before,

remember that you can't sell any linen sprays or bath

splashes made with alcohol as an ingredient unless you

are licensed to do so... especially Everclear!

MK

--- Grammycurtis@... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/22/2001 5:38:36 PM Central

> Daylight Time,

> sierra@... writes:

>

>

> >

>

> I found out on another list when we went through

> this same thread, not all

> states allow sale of everclear. I couldn't believe

> it. If it is available,

> you should be able to get it at a liquor store. It's

> pretty much what the

> bartenders use for the flaming drinks because it's

> so combustible. Like the

> lady said..............YEE HAW!! GRAMMY

>

> Robin Curtis, Savonier

> shopowners

> www.aromagardencreations.com

> email: grammycurtis@...

> P.U.S.H.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

You can use 39C denatured alcohol in place of Everclear.

> Also, since we went through this thread before,

> remember that you can't sell any linen sprays or bath

> splashes made with alcohol as an ingredient unless you

> are licensed to do so... especially Everclear!

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathleen:

Yes...for example, using the recipe I posted, omit the distilled water

entirely and double the amount of vodka. For colorant, use liquid food

colors, but keep it subtle, as they can stain!

Good luck...let me know how it turns out! :-)

Cat

> Would you then just increase the amount of Vodka to make up for not using

the

> water that is called?

>

> Also, I want to color some of my Bath Splash, what do you suggest I use?

[Guest guest]

How does one get licensed to do that?

> remember that you can't sell any linen sprays or bath

> splashes made with alcohol as an ingredient unless you

> are licensed to do so... especially Everclear!

> MK

> --- Grammycurtis@... wrote:

> > In a message dated 5/22/2001 5:38:36 PM Central

> > Daylight Time,

> > sierra@... writes:

> >

> >

> > >

> >

> > I found out on another list when we went through

> > this same thread, not all

> > states allow sale of everclear. I couldn't believe

> > it. If it is available,

> > you should be able to get it at a liquor store. It's

> > pretty much what the

> > bartenders use for the flaming drinks because it's

> > so combustible. Like the

> > lady said..............YEE HAW!! GRAMMY

> >

> > Robin Curtis, Savonier

> > shopowners

> > www.aromagardencreations.com

> > email: grammycurtis@...

> > P.U.S.H.

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

OK. I bought a can of denatured alcohol (very small,

to see if I have the right thing). Yikes! It stinks

to high heaven! Can we be talking about the same

thing? Can't imagine how this stuff can be used.

What does 39C stand for? I don't see any numbers on

this can at all. It just says quality denatured

alcohol, Danger, poison. Yikes! This is nasty stuff!

MK

--- Cat <saturner@...> wrote:

> You can use 39C denatured alcohol in place of

> Everclear.

>

>

> > Also, since we went through this thread before,

> > remember that you can't sell any linen sprays or

> bath

> > splashes made with alcohol as an ingredient unless

> you

> > are licensed to do so... especially Everclear!

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yah, I did the same thing. I got it at Chem Lab and they said that's what all

the soap makers order for perfume etc. I can't imaging using it either and it

is still sitting unused in my cabinet. Anyone know about this?

na

Re: Bath Splash/Linen Spray

OK. I bought a can of denatured alcohol (very small,

to see if I have the right thing). Yikes! It stinks

to high heaven! Can we be talking about the same

thing? Can't imagine how this stuff can be used.

What does 39C stand for? I don't see any numbers on

this can at all. It just says quality denatured

alcohol, Danger, poison. Yikes! This is nasty stuff!

MK

--- Cat <saturner@...> wrote:

> You can use 39C denatured alcohol in place of

> Everclear.

>

>

> > Also, since we went through this thread before,

> > remember that you can't sell any linen sprays or

> bath

> > splashes made with alcohol as an ingredient unless

> you

> > are licensed to do so... especially Everclear!

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> Yah, I did the same thing. I got it at Chem Lab and they said

that's what all the soap makers order for perfume etc. I can't

imaging using it either and it is still sitting unused in my

cabinet. Anyone know about this?

na, there are umteen formulas for denaturing alcohol. Rubbing

alcohol is denatured alcohol, but you certainly wouldn't want to use

it in something like a splash because it would be very difficult-if

not impossible-to cover up the smell. 39-C or 40-B are generally used

for splash. It is more difficult to get the 39-C but if you can get

it, that is better for splash as it is also used in fine perfumes.

Someone else asked why it is against the law to sell products made

with vodka. You must remember that when you are dealing with alcohol,

you are not only dealing with Federal regulations, but also State

regulations. The Fed is mainly interested in collecting their tax. To

purchase denatured in large quantities-over 5 gallons per year-you

must purchase a permit from the Tobacco, alcohol, and firearms dept.

this is the means used to collect the Fed tax. If you buy booze

(vodka) in the store, you pay the tax, so the Fed don't care what you

do with it.

Each State is a whole different ballgame. All States have restrictive

laws on the sale of booze. In many States it can only be sold in a

bar or an offsale. Even in the States that allow it to be sold in

grocery stores have strick rules and licensing laws. It is usually

very difficult to get a liqor license in any State to sell booze to

the public. When you put vodka in a product that you sell to the

public, you are doing so without a liquor license and this is where

you are breaking State law.

Pat.

Peace, Joy, Serenity.

www.houseofscents.com

Cosmeticinfo

[Guest guest]

I buy the ethyl alcohol. However, I filtered denatured through charcoal and it

took out most of the smell. (I use a Brita water filter and poured the alcohol

through right before changing the filter.) Wonder if the charcoal filters for

fish tanks would work.

Grins,

Kaye<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a

href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

[Guest guest]

what is wrong with using Rubbing alcohol???

dena

> > remember that you can't sell any linen sprays or bath

> > splashes made with alcohol as an ingredient unless you

> > are licensed to do so... especially Everclear!

[Guest guest]

My husband picked up a can of de-natured alcohol for me from the hardware

store. I'm wondering if this is the type of de-natured alcohol I should be

using.

The can says 'no prolonged use on skin', and says it should be washed off

promptly.

Wrong de-natured alcohol? And how can I tell which is the ''right " one?

Thanks,

L. & Bo (service/guide)

Aide dogs--a lifeline to the world that others walk freely.

http://belointeractive.koz.com/bi/nwadf

http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/BoomerSt/acd_blues/acd_blues38.servicedog.htm

l