Re: Redistribution (was DMPS protocol)?

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Oh so sorry about the name (blush!)

don't fully understand redistribution. Once the DMPS has grabbed the Mercury (or other metal) why isn't it then simply excreted? Redistribution requires that the DMPS releases the metal. I have seen animal experiments that are for and against redistribution, so this is a very confusing subject.

>>>>Chelators grab and release metals all the time according to Andy Cutler. Its the steady blood supply that gives enough for it to be excreted by increasing the chances of a grab.

You get redistribtuion at the END of a regular round but hopefully this is minimised by having had a regualr supply during the round and a decrease in floating metals.

I think Buttars thoery is to like shake up the dust, mobilise it, and sweep some out with the next dose. Thats why he says to keep going rather than stop. There were some nasty reactions to stopping cold tukey when it frst came out but haven;t heard of any like that for ages now.

Its a subject prone to many disagreements, you pays your moeny and takes your pick

Mandi in Dorset

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Thanks Mandi,

First a correction. My name is , not !

I don't fully understand redistribution. Once the DMPS has grabbed the Mercury (or other metal) why isn't it then simply excreted? Redistribution requires that the DMPS releases the metal. I have seen animal experiments that are for and against redistribution, so this is a very confusing subject.

As to your final comment, one thing I've noticed when reading posts on several forums is that parents are often doing several things at the same time, so it's often difficult to decide what has caused any observed improvement (or regression).

Re: DMPS protocol?

Hi

Dr Buttars protocol is based on REDISTRIBUTION of metals while most every other protocol is designed to MINIMISE redistribution.

When you minimise you give doses of chelator accordinging to their half life in the blood. DMPS is 8 hours, hence 8 hourly dosing. Keep the blood level of the chelator steady = mobilisation and excretion.

When we did 8 hourly (for 7 days) prior to the Buttar protocol we didn;t see any rashes./ But when we did 48 hourly dosing we did. Strange.

You can see Dr Buttar explain this in the video here

www.autismmedia.org click on the media centre and then heavy metal toxicity.

FWIW I believe the kids who start off feeling bad in the beginning with TD DMPS are the ones with lots of body bound metals suffering unnecessary redistribution.

I have always gven minerals on the ON day, Sam would not do well without them for 24 hours. He is dumping metals and his mineral levels are fine

I come from the Andy Cutler school of chelation ( list), his recommnedations for frequnecy of dosing are

DMPS 8 hourly or more often

DMSA 4 hourly or more often

ALA 3 hourly or more often

EDTA 6-8 hourly or more often

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

Sam had done 70 rounds of frequent dose chelation with DMSA and ALA before we tried TD DMPS. I did 7 days of 8 hourly so I could see what he was like without "redistribution" and then tried Buttars every other day. We have not seen any issues at all except for the transient rashes which resolved in a few weeks. I believe his metals are brain bound now and maybe Buttars theory works better on that?? After a month of TD DMPS 48 hourly we added back in oral ALA 2 hourly in the day, 3/5 hourly at night, every other weekend and then the improvements really started coming in. Could have been the MB12 though

HOpe I haven;t confused you more

MAndi in Dorset

What's the rationale behind 8 hour dosing? My understanding of the Buttar Protocol (dosing every other day) is that the half life of DMPS is only a few hours and you give mineral supplements on the off days to minimise their depletion by DMPS.