Mold: What does the future hold, politically?

[Guest guest]

This is a question I have been pondering a lot, and the way I see it,

this is the most probable:

It seems as if there is a 'solution' for many in the world of contract

law. What will be done is that when you rent an apartment or buy a

home, you will have to agree that you take it 'as is' and that any

renovation work, medical expenses, etc. due to mold are due to your

own inability to see inside the walls of the building before you

bought it, and are your fault, nomatter how long they have been there.

Some buildings may be sold as 'certified mold free' at a *substantial*

extra cost. All other houses will be 'as is'.

At one point they will declare that all mold problems from the past

will be given an 'amnesty' and all future claimants will need to sue

under a 'no fault' system and will take their awards from a national

'pool' which they will then seriously underfund.

People will be prohibited from suing in any other court and the

damages will be capped at $10,000 per human life lost. (less for

non-incapacitating diseases)

The same thing will happen with schools. Public schools, because they

are free, will be immune from mold claims because people will be

limited to recovery of 'what they have spent' on something, and public

schools are free.

People sending their kids to private schools will be able to 'choose'

'certified mold free' schools, *at extra cost*. If they 'choose' to

send their kids to a moldy school, their kids may have a cause of

action against them when they turn 18 for depriving them of a

mold-free environment. But only if their parents had a responsibility

for other reasons, say if their parent was the custodial parent in a

divorce and the child received child support from the non-custodial

parent.

This is what the 'ownership society' is all about. People will have

the RIGHT to CHOOSE MOLD FREE SCHOOLS if that is their CHOICE. (and

they can afford the extra cost, and there is one in their community,

which they also chose to live in, using their free will.)

God bless America!

[Guest guest]

Dottie, thanks for saying that. of course, that is what I am getting at.

There is never a 'choice'. But during the 19th century, before the

body of legal decisions in the 20th century that the right seems so

determined to repeal, the only recourse was contract law. For example,

if you took a job, you were understood to have to put up with any

issues there, because 'you could always leave'.

It still is like this in many other countries.. For example, in many

countries, sexual harassment of women on the job is quite normal.

Women put up or shut up. Because they need the jobs to feed their families.

Thats what we are going back to.

On 12/22/05, dottykalm <dottykalm@...> wrote:

> " It seems as if there is a 'solution' for many in the

> world of contract

> law. "

>

> But, no, there isn't a fair solution in contract laws.

> At least for a person who is not wealthy. They try

> to spread the fact that mold victims are just out

> there looking for money, they want to make people

> think it's easy to start a mold lawsuit. I am a victim

> of a condo association that wanted to kill me rather

> than face the truth, because they knew they would

> suffer financially, and they have such criminal minds

> that they would rather people get sick, ignore the

> walls that are black and rotting, swarming with

> carpenter ants, and they paint over the rot.........I

> wonder if people are getting the picture. The

> building inspector and almost everyone in the town

> knows it is happening, but nobody is saying or doing

> anything about it. Waiting almost three years with no

> end in sight is another punitive damage for me. They

> are still getting away with it and selling the places

> to unwary buyers. But, I guess this is happening all

> over the country in condos, houses, tents?, There are

> many victims of everything now. I have heard a lot of

> the stories of struggle on these boards.

>

> But, I do think your idea is correct in that the

> insurance companies are probably trying to lessen the

> damages they know are coming. I would see that as a

> very likely prediction in how the insurance companies

> will handle this. That is for as long as they can

> get. That is why they pay off doctors like Bardana

> who writes for MD, to skew the facts from the public a

> while longer. Doctors are getting kickbacks....

>

> Happy Holidays to all, and keep fightin' the battle of

> helping each other and spreading the word.

> Mold is something that can be prevented, hurricances

> we can't control.

>

> --- snk1955@... wrote:

>

> >

> > Scary thought. But plausible.!

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> > In a message dated 12/22/2005 9:06:54 AM Pacific

> > Standard Time,

> > quackadillian@... writes:

> >

> > This is a question I have been pondering a lot, and

> > the way I see it,

> > this is the most probable:

> >

> > It seems as if there is a 'solution' for many in the

> > world of contract

> > law. What will be done is that when you rent an

> > apartment or buy a

> > home, you will have to agree that you take it 'as

> > is' and that any

> > renovation work, medical expenses, etc. due to mold

> > are due to your

> > own inability to see inside the walls of the

> > building before you

> > bought it, and are your fault, nomatter how long

> > they have been there.

> > Some buildings may be sold as 'certified mold free'

> > at a *substantial*

> > extra cost. All other houses will be 'as is'.

> >

> > At one point they will declare that all mold

> > problems from the past

> > will be given an 'amnesty' and all future claimants

> > will need to sue

> > under a 'no fault' system and will take their

> > awards from a national

> > 'pool' which they will then seriously underfund.

> >

> > People will be prohibited from suing in any other

> > court and the

> > damages will be capped at $10,000 per human life

> > lost. (less for

> > non-incapacitating diseases)

> >

> > The same thing will happen with schools. Public

> > schools, because they

> > are free, will be immune from mold claims because

> > people will be

> > limited to recovery of 'what they have spent' on

> > something, and public

> > schools are free.

> >

> > People sending their kids to private schools will

> > be able to 'choose'

> > 'certified mold free' schools, *at extra cost*. If

> > they 'choose' to

> > send their kids to a moldy school, their kids may

> > have a cause of

> > action against them when they turn 18 for depriving

> > them of a

> > mold-free environment. But only if their parents

> > had a responsibility

> > for other reasons, say if their parent was the

> > custodial parent in a

> > divorce and the child received child support from

> > the non-custodial

> > parent.

> >

> > This is what the 'ownership society' is all about.

> > People will have

> > the RIGHT to CHOOSE MOLD FREE SCHOOLS if that is

> > their CHOICE. (and

> > they can afford the extra cost, and there is one in

> > their community,

> > which they also chose to live in, using their free

> > will.)

> >

> > God bless America!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I think there are a number of problems driving all of this and none of

them are very easy to address.

The bottom line is that in our system, landlords are on the honor

system, in a sense, and that is clearly not enough to get them to do

what they need to do.

There are economic pressures on landlords. These days, hiring any

contractor is a gamble for them, as costs can be higher than

anticipated. On the other hand, allowing the current situation to

continue is a recipe for disaster. When they speak of the 'decay' of

empires, that is not just am metaphor, it is a very real description

of what happens when the social contract holding a society together

disintegrates.

That is what is happening here in America. We are making bad choices

that are leading us to a real hell - and mold is just one part of it,

But its a killer.

Has anyone read Huxleys Brave New World? I am constantly reminded of

it by the world that we are creating for ourselves..