Re: Re: professional MD's/pressure/multi-level (reply)

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In a message dated 01/07/2006 4:01:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

kdsl92003@... writes:

> but the key is that you are getting the

> recommendations from an MD. I think that an MD is going to be able

> to look at your whole health history, order blood tests. etc to

> determine if you truly need a product and also if there is anything

> in your history to indicate a product could cause you harm. I see

> no problem with this, in fact it makes a lot of sense, especially

> since the MDs also are the ones prescribing medicine as well.

>

******OHHHhhhhh trust me, this is not always true......I went to a

pulmonologists right after this MOLD exposure to get a pulmonary function tests

done.....You would not believe what a fiasco that was. First of all I had to

fill out

my paper work in the parking lot, as he had a brand new beautiful building

with all brand new fixtures, paint, carpet and God knows what else. I walked

into the office and immediately went into a full blown asthma attack from all

the toxins from the new office. This idiot had the nerve to get all butt hurt

because, and I quote " my office is brand new, there is nothing here to make you

have this attack " !!! These boys just don't have a clue. I looked at him and

ask him if he really was a pulmonologists, and did he understand toxins from

new things " ? He then told me that I was the only patient who had complained

and he could understand if he was in his old office as it was " old " !! I

couldn't help it but I had to laugh. His waiting room had two patients in it

coughing their heads off. I also told him that the pesticides around and in his

office were very toxic. I ask him if he knew what his " new " cabinets were made

of? Did he know anything about toxic paints and carpets? I told him that he

could clean up the newest with an ozone machine over the weekend when no one

was there, then by putting is commercial air purifiers.

His face was red and he ask me " why are you selling these things " .....I knew

I had a true dweeb on my hands, so I smiled sweetly and requested the

pulmonary function test, so I could get out of his toxic environment. He

stomped out

of the room.......You can bet your sweet bippy that I got a copy of the test

before I left.

When the office girl tried to reschedule me, I said " No thank you " .....

I went back to my PCP and told him if he ever referred me to another idiot

like that I would be changing PCP's........I was blown away that this so called

pulmonologists was not aware of environmental toxins, especially from new

equipment and fixtures. As I was leaving the office 2 patients walked in BOTH

heavy with perfume and after shave. There was NO sign about NO FRAGRANCE

Another thing is there are very few doctors who understand vitamin/herbals.

Not their fault as they are only given approximately 6 hours of nutrition in

med school. Hell, my PCP is always asking me questions about vitamin/herbals

and has even had me do some research for him. I admire and trust him, as he

knows I have 3 alternative docs, which he has spoken to on the telephone many

times regarding my case. The only information I have ever gotten from most MD's

is " I don't know much about it, so just tell me so I can make a note of it in

your chart " they are also confident that I know what I am taking. Other MDs

have talked down about vitamin/herbals simply because they have no experience

and are actually embarassed. There is hope though......everyday I meet new

docs who are educating themselves about vitamin and herbals.

I was blessed for 3 years, before he died, to have a doctor who did " dark

field microscopy " blood readings on live and dried blood. This was wonderful as

he could tell me what vitamin/herbals I needed for the month according to what

he saw in these blood readings. What people don't understand is you can

drive your disease deeper if you are taking the wrong things. I was lucky and

in

my case I was just wasting product and money and was lucky it didn't hurt me.

Now I'm back to having my homeopathic MD testing me to tell me on what my

body needs. I of course do major research on products before taking them.

Know your product......know the manufacturer.....how it is made......how it

is packaged......how it is stored......how it is transported. PLUS, know the

fillers and make sure it doesn't have all the garbage in them. When in doubt

ask for a " Certificate of Analysis " .......This is another reason why some MLM

products are good.

Keep a smile on your face, love in your heart and walk with the angels,

holding hands in the " chain of love " .....

Angel Huggzz

or Angel

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In a message dated 01/07/2006 10:38:01 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

jschaller@... writes:

>

> Virtually all health practitioners have zero nutritional training, and so

> those who are cutting-edge have spent thousands in books, seminars and

articles

> trying to learn what should have been taught. It is a massive field. Even

> for health professionals with more initial nutrition training, must study hard

> each month or they are behind on the best options in a year.

>

> Schaller, MD

> www.personalconsult.com

>

*****Thank you Dr Schaller for this post.......I am thankful that you are to

be considered one of those " cutting edge " docs that step out of the box for

the sake of patients. Praise the Lord we have docs like you who truly care

about patients well being. THANK YOU.....

Keep a smile on your face, love in your heart and walk with the angels,

holding hands in the " chain of love " .....

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Sort of off subject, but does anybody know exactly what happens,

biologically when someone who is sensitized gets a strong 'hit' of

mold and their body goes into shock over it?

I *know* that there must be some serious stuff going on with me and I

am sure that there *must* be some kind of way to measure it.

What about those little oxygen sensor things they put on your finger

when you are getting an operation? (they register how oxygenated your

blood is)

Has anybody tried this? I can *feel* about five or six different

changes in my body happen over a very short time window - and often,

they happen *before* I realize that mold exposure is happening.. (the

mold in my building doesnt smell much - but it packs a hell of a

whallop for me..)

Sometimes, my ears start ringing and I actually hear the ringing start

and then change pitch.. this *must* mean something neurologically..

Does anyone know?

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The clamp on the finger that measures oxygen is a pulsometer (sp).

I have had that placed on me a few times and for thos with a tissue

alkolosis problem (chem exposure) it's basically worthless and here is

why.

That measures the amount of 02 you get, thats fine, but the true test is

whether the body is actually utiloizing the 02. THey should be testing

veous blood return.

There was a report that those who are chemcially injured and with CFS:

, two small double blind studies into a red blood cell '2,3-DPG'

abnormality and she proved that patients with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis

(CFS) do have an abnormal concentration of this metabolite which is

involved with releasing oxygen from hemoglobin into the cells of tissues

and organs. Without oxygen the body and the brain become foggy and

fatigued.

Based on that just showing you are gettng 02 does not mean that the body

is getting it

Angel

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, LiveSimply wrote:

> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 23:41:32 -0800

> From: LiveSimply <quackadillian@...>

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> Subject: Re: [] Re: " professional " MD's/pressure/multi-level

> (reply)

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> Sort of off subject, but does anybody know exactly what happens,

> biologically when someone who is sensitized gets a strong 'hit' of

> mold and their body goes into shock over it?

>

> I *know* that there must be some serious stuff going on with me and I

> am sure that there *must* be some kind of way to measure it.

>

> What about those little oxygen sensor things they put on your finger

> when you are getting an operation? (they register how oxygenated your

> blood is)

>

> Has anybody tried this? I can *feel* about five or six different

> changes in my body happen over a very short time window - and often,

> they happen *before* I realize that mold exposure is happening.. (the

> mold in my building doesnt smell much - but it packs a hell of a

> whallop for me..)

>

> Sometimes, my ears start ringing and I actually hear the ringing start

> and then change pitch.. this *must* mean something neurologically..

>

> Does anyone know?

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