Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Dear Kathi R. and Lesli: thanks so much for your input about Luvox and Prozac. Kathi - weren't you concerned about so much twitching? It is scary to watch. I guess the benefits of the medication outweigh this side effect. I agree that some of the impulsivity was his relief to be rid of his anxiety. He seemed so much happier and freer. He went on sleepovers without caution. He really seemed so much different and that's why I'm so disappointed to see these side effects. The psychiatrist and his therapist both were surprised to see side effects because they rarely have kids react to Luvox. Well, I'll let you know our next step. With school just starting his anxiety is pretty high and for the first time since he was diagnosed over a year ago we are going to meet with his teachers to fill them in. Good luck to you and thanks again! Maris --- onelist wrote: > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 > From: Maris Chavenson <mchavenson@...> > > Dear Kathi R. and Lesli: > > thanks so much for your input about Luvox and Prozac. Kathi - weren't > you concerned about so much twitching? It is scary to watch. I guess > the benefits of the medication outweigh this side effect. Yes this scared me when it first happened, I was on the phone the next morning to her psychiatrist about it. He was unconcerned though and said (I believe I'm remembering this correctly) that the drug was exaggerating normal monoclonic jerking--that everyone jerks and twitches during sleep. I have talked with some adults with ocd though who have quit an SSRI because of this side-effect, the jerking kept waking them up. My daughter sleeps through much of this activity, though I wonder sometimes how she can feel rested in the morning. It's interesting to me that my husband--no dxs and taking no medication--also moves almost constantly in his sleep, he's been a tough bed partner all these years. (We have a king-size mattress and I sleep on the edge in self-defense. :-) Kathy R. in Indiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Reply re: taperecording at home It sounds like the picture the therapist is getting in session is so very different from your experience at home. Though tape recording is one way to convey that difference, I think that it may make your child feel ganged up on (were he to find out) and could backfire. You, like so many parents I meet are excellent at describing what happens at home- the key is making sure the therapist is giving you the time and listening to what you are saying. My vote would be to have a meeting with the therapist without your son to explain your concerns and get some guidelines on how to handle and possibly avoid some of these meltdown situations. One book that I have reccommended to parents is The Explosive Child by Dr. Ross Greene. While it is not a book on OCD, many of the children he works with have a combination of ADHD, OCD and some oppositional defiant behavior. It is one book that thoughtfully handles the real-life crises that occur everyday living with a child who struggles with neurobiological conditions. Dr. Greene's approach is very caring and there are some very handy ways of prioritizing your parenting efforts. Of course, having the time to read a book is not always feasible! As I think I may have mentioned before, sometimes before we can even approach exposure for OCD, I work with families on how to foresee and defuse crises so that the emotional temperature of the household can come down a few degrees before taking on the added challenge of E/RP. Some thoughts on a difficult topic... I was moved by all the advice given about discussing the difficult issue of death with our children. The point was raised to not give too much information, not too much detail. I think that makes sense. As with any other concept, when we teach our children we do it a little bit at a time- if we tell them too much they can't digest it. In addition to the informational piece, I think that helping your child label the emotions they feel when they are discussing death is very important. e.g., " It is scary, it is hard to imagine, yes you will miss the person " Then you can begin to discuss what to do with those big feelings, how to break them down. Or, what your child wants to do with them, e.g., does your child want to write a letter to her grandfather about what he loves most, special memories he wants to share. Sometimes drawing a picture of the feeling may be a way of processing it that is easier than putting into words... Best to all, Tamar Chansky, Ph.D. PS- I have a few parents who would like to join the list, but they have only been able to view it, not participate, can someone email me directions for them? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 HI Dr. Chansky: Thanks for the suggestions about talking about difficult topics like death and illness. These are very helpful to my family. I was wondering how many families, or what proportion, with kids who have OCD have a " high emotional temperature " before OCD treatment begins. Certainly this was very true for our family, and that in itself was very frightening and hard to deal with. Do families manage to cope without getting this fever, or are they just dealing with mild OCD without comorbidities? I found reading Dr. Greene's book and others by Dr. Barkley very helpful as it seemed that we were not the only family with OCD (or other NBD) fever. It was very confusing to have a child who was behaving pretty reasonably one moment and then in a matter of weeks was completely disfunctional. For anyone wanting to join the list they can email the owner Louis Harkins at louisharkins_4@..., or surf onto the URL, /subscribe/ and follow the instructions. Thank you for your time and commitment to this list. We are so lucky to have experienced and dedicated professionals like you helping and guiding us. Aloha, Kathy (Ha) kathyh@... At 09:57 AM 09/10/1999 +0000, you wrote: >From: Tamar Chansky <chanskt@...> > >Reply re: taperecording at home > >It sounds like the picture the therapist is getting in session is so very different from your experience at home. Though tape recording is one way to convey that difference, I think that it may make your child feel ganged up on (were he to find out) and could backfire. You, like so many parents I meet are excellent at describing what happens at home- the key is making sure the therapist is giving you the time and listening to what you are saying. My vote would be to have a meeting with the therapist without your son to explain your concerns and get some guidelines on how to handle and possibly avoid some of these meltdown situations. One book that I have reccommended to parents is The Explosive Child by Dr. Ross Greene. While it is not a book on OCD, many of the >children he works with have a combination of ADHD, OCD and some oppositional defiant behavior. It is one book that thoughtfully handles the real-life crises that occur everyday living with a child who struggles with neurobiological conditions. Dr. Greene's approach is very caring and there are some very handy ways of prioritizing your parenting efforts. > >Of course, having the time to read a book is not always feasible! As I think I may have mentioned before, sometimes before we can even approach exposure for OCD, I work with families on how to foresee and defuse crises so that the emotional temperature of the household can come down a few degrees before taking on the added challenge of E/RP. > >Some thoughts on a difficult topic... > >I was moved by all the advice given about discussing the difficult issue of death with our children. The point was raised to not give too much information, not too much detail. I think that makes sense. As with any other concept, when we teach our children we do it a little bit at a time- if we tell them too much they can't digest it. In addition to the informational piece, I think that helping your child label the emotions they feel when they are discussing death is very important. e.g., " It is scary, it is hard to imagine, yes you will miss the person " Then you can begin to discuss what to do with those big feelings, how to break them down. Or, what your child wants to do with them, e.g., does your child want to write a letter to her grandfather about what he >loves most, special memories he wants to share. Sometimes drawing a picture of the feeling may be a way of processing it that is easier than putting into words... > >Best to all, > >Tamar Chansky, Ph.D. > >PS- I have a few parents who would like to join the list, but they have only been able to view it, not participate, can someone email me directions for them? Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 In a message dated 11/28/99 4:52:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, bowel cleanseonelist writes: << Hi : Garlic is one of the VERY BEST foods to eat regularly. It was almost at the top of the list (2nd in line) in a recent study of natural products that strengthened the immune system without having any toxic effects. During the black death in Europe, the monks looked after the sick and dying. But they did not get sick. Turned out they were the biggest growers AND USERS of garlic. Regards Russ >> Hi Russ, I read your post to my husband...and we both wanted to know what the #1 thing on the list was? [g] My husband guesses it must be chocolate. ;-) Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 In a message dated 11/28/99 4:52:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, bowel cleanseonelist writes: << I too am interested in which foods on the superfood diet are the ones which are rich in B-12. Robin >> I must have missed it...what is the " superfood diet " ? Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2000 Report Share Posted February 22, 2000 Hi Group, I just hooked up with , mom to 7-week old identical girl twins, both (obviously) with DS. One of the girls has a cleft lip & palate, too. She's going to join us, but in advance, any resources/advice for her? In general the babies are healthy!! I think at this point she's more concerned with the cleft situation than the DS. One thing at a time! Love from Debbi, mom to Logan 5 1/2, Eli (DS) and Milo, 3 1/2 P.S. Eli was sitting on the couch. I asked if he wants some juice, he said " no, I sit. " Sit all night if you want!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Hi all, Alisha you sound like you are on the right track to me....Finding out all you can about CMT may be a calling for you...Good luck to you as you may be the inspiration for another young person inflicted with this disease......stay on top of things we need your teenage input very much as I have a Grandson age 7 who may need your help. CSCluv** http://community.webtv.net/cat926/CATHYSCOOLCATCORNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 Hello I to want to know where there is some basket suppliers. I am trying to start up my business. I don't have the funds needed right know to buy what I need to make them so I am thinking,I should buy some made up and then buy what I need. Also, is there any one that knows how I can get a list on vendors? This may be a good place to start. Thank you in advance. http://community.webtv.net/stephanie179/sFamily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 << Message: 22 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:33:05 -0400 From: Nelsie@... Subject: Laundry Gel/Diaper Soap Laundry Gel/Diaper Soap 1 bar soap, grated 1 c. washing soda 1 gal. water Fill a large bucket or container with hot tap water (about 1 gallon). Make sure container has a tight fitting lid to prevent accidents. Put soap into a sauce pan. Add water just to cover. Heat, stirring constantly, until soap is dissolved. Add to the hot water in the bucket and stir well. Then (do not reverse this order) add 1 cup of washing soda and stir. As this cools it will turn into a bucket full of white gelatinous soap. To use, put one cup into a full load of laundry. You can also add a handful of baking soda or borax to the load, just add vinegar to the final rinse (or in a Downy ball). >> A similar recipe was posted a while back except it made an 11 liter batch using 1 bar of fels naptha soap and 1 cup of washing soda. I have the ingredieints sitting here, just waiting for the time to put them together. Can anyone comment on the difference in the amount of water? If I calculate correctly 11 liters equal just under 3 gallons. nne in PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 In a message dated 4/12/00 10:36:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rlilly@... writes: << what is washing soda and where do i find it thanks >> Washing soda is Arm & Hammer Washing Soda, sold where other laundry products are located. Borax is used in laundry to boost the power of the detergent. They are not interchangeable. HTH, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2000 Report Share Posted April 12, 2000 what is washing soda and where do i find it thanks wildthinng@... wrote: > << Message: 22 > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:33:05 -0400 > From: Nelsie@... > Subject: Laundry Gel/Diaper Soap > > Laundry Gel/Diaper Soap > > 1 bar soap, grated > 1 c. washing soda > 1 gal. water > > > Fill a large bucket or container with hot tap water (about 1 > gallon). Make sure container has a tight fitting lid to prevent > accidents. > > Put soap into a sauce pan. Add water just to cover. Heat, stirring > constantly, until soap is dissolved. Add to the hot water in the > bucket and stir well. > > Then (do not reverse this order) add 1 cup of washing soda and stir. > As this cools it will turn into a bucket full of white gelatinous > soap. > > To use, put one cup into a full load of laundry. You can also add a > handful of baking soda or borax to the load, just add vinegar to the final > rinse (or in a Downy ball). > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2000 Report Share Posted July 14, 2000 In a message dated 7/13/00 11:21:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, egroups writes: << OK It's seems I've been volunteered :-) If anyone has an interest I will collect all the results and then post the numbers. Carole >> Carole- Count me in, however, we just chelated this week for the first time and only used DMSA--next round we will use DMSA & LA so I won't know for a little while yet what the mercury level is, but our son does have yeast and Dr. Shaw recommended the glutathione. Once I get the numbers, I'll send them to you. I just wanted to respond with my interest in this. Robbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Dear Gail: Some tests require that you isolate parts of the specimen and quickly keep it in a particular state so you do not get a false figure. For example, when testing for viral loads, the red blood cells and serum must be quickly separated, (this is the " speckled " or " tiger top tube " ). After centrifuging the tube, the serum, (the clearer part that goes to the top of the tube), is then drawn off and placed into a plastic tube that is frozen. It is kept this way until testing. Without getting into too much hematology, there are many reasons for this. For example, if you leave certain specimens sitting to long, it allows the cells to undergo certain changes. For example, if you are testing for Potassium levels, if the specimen is left sitting too long, the cells may release stored Potassium. When that is combined with what should normally be in your circulatory system, you could get a very high level. In the case of Potassium, too much is just as dangerous as too little. If the level is truly high, it needs immediate treatment, or someone could get seriously ill or die. Too low, you get muscle cramping, and potential other problems, including in the heart. This is why, if something is way off, and the person has no symptoms, you retest to see if it is true. In some cases, the only way to get a true reading is to isolate the part that you plan on getting the specimen from. So, that is why certain samples are quickly taken and whatever needs to be done to preserve the sample until the test can be completed, is done. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Dear Gail: Some tests require that you isolate parts of the specimen and quickly keep it in a particular state so you do not get a false figure. For example, when testing for viral loads, the red blood cells and serum must be quickly separated, (this is the " speckled " or " tiger top tube " ). After centrifuging the tube, the serum, (the clearer part that goes to the top of the tube), is then drawn off and placed into a plastic tube that is frozen. It is kept this way until testing. Without getting into too much hematology, there are many reasons for this. For example, if you leave certain specimens sitting to long, it allows the cells to undergo certain changes. For example, if you are testing for Potassium levels, if the specimen is left sitting too long, the cells may release stored Potassium. When that is combined with what should normally be in your circulatory system, you could get a very high level. In the case of Potassium, too much is just as dangerous as too little. If the level is truly high, it needs immediate treatment, or someone could get seriously ill or die. Too low, you get muscle cramping, and potential other problems, including in the heart. This is why, if something is way off, and the person has no symptoms, you retest to see if it is true. In some cases, the only way to get a true reading is to isolate the part that you plan on getting the specimen from. So, that is why certain samples are quickly taken and whatever needs to be done to preserve the sample until the test can be completed, is done. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Dear Claudine: Sorry, I could not tell who wrote that last message, but, at least you got it. From what you have described, and the factors that make it worse, I would think the problems lies more with muscle/skeletal causes. From what seems to happen, while you probably have tinnitis, it sounds like the cause is related to something " pinching " on a nerve. From what you have described, depending on age, you probably have some normal deterioration of the vertebrae or disks in your cervical, (neck), or upper thoracic, (upper back/shoulder area to just above the buttocks), which may be either showing signs of arthritis changes. All of these areas, which as you tense, either from excess use, tightness, the shots, or any number of combinations, may not only causing a misalignment of any of these muscles, but also cause some swelling. The swelling may be pinching on a nerve, or nerves, and as that occurs, your body is trying to compensate, and in fact, over compensating. This may be causing a snow ball reaction=as your body compensates to ease off one muscle, tendon, etc., it pulls on another. This may cause more swelling, and just aggravate the situation. It sounds, if you could, decrease whatever is irritating that area of your body, it might lessen the pressure on that area, and, also the pressure on the nerve, and decrease the tinnitis. Suggestions to consider are anti-inflammatory medications, evaluation of the neck and facial muscles by a MRI, evaluation by someone who specializes in TMJ, an oral maxillary surgeon, etc. What also may help, (don't laugh too hard, it has worked for a number of people), is message therapy. Someone who could concentrate on the muscle groups from the shoulder to the head. If whatever is straining, or causing inflammation in that area could be reduced, it might help the tinnitis. Since this is really causing you major problems, if it were me, I would try anything that would not reasonably cause additional problems, and see if anything works. If you look at any detailed anatomy book, you'll see all the overlapping areas, and any of them could be causing, or aggravating your situation. It's worth a look. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Dear Claudine: Sorry, I could not tell who wrote that last message, but, at least you got it. From what you have described, and the factors that make it worse, I would think the problems lies more with muscle/skeletal causes. From what seems to happen, while you probably have tinnitis, it sounds like the cause is related to something " pinching " on a nerve. From what you have described, depending on age, you probably have some normal deterioration of the vertebrae or disks in your cervical, (neck), or upper thoracic, (upper back/shoulder area to just above the buttocks), which may be either showing signs of arthritis changes. All of these areas, which as you tense, either from excess use, tightness, the shots, or any number of combinations, may not only causing a misalignment of any of these muscles, but also cause some swelling. The swelling may be pinching on a nerve, or nerves, and as that occurs, your body is trying to compensate, and in fact, over compensating. This may be causing a snow ball reaction=as your body compensates to ease off one muscle, tendon, etc., it pulls on another. This may cause more swelling, and just aggravate the situation. It sounds, if you could, decrease whatever is irritating that area of your body, it might lessen the pressure on that area, and, also the pressure on the nerve, and decrease the tinnitis. Suggestions to consider are anti-inflammatory medications, evaluation of the neck and facial muscles by a MRI, evaluation by someone who specializes in TMJ, an oral maxillary surgeon, etc. What also may help, (don't laugh too hard, it has worked for a number of people), is message therapy. Someone who could concentrate on the muscle groups from the shoulder to the head. If whatever is straining, or causing inflammation in that area could be reduced, it might help the tinnitis. Since this is really causing you major problems, if it were me, I would try anything that would not reasonably cause additional problems, and see if anything works. If you look at any detailed anatomy book, you'll see all the overlapping areas, and any of them could be causing, or aggravating your situation. It's worth a look. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2000 Report Share Posted July 20, 2000 Dear Marty, I agree that the muscle/skeletal problems are the root cause of the tinnitus. And I do have degeneration (bone spurs) at C6 & C7. And, one ENT I saw even admitted it MIGHT be ( a big MIGHT, I was the one insisting that was where the problem was), might be possible that my tinnitus could be caused by pressure from the neck referring to the tympanic nerve. He is the one who started me on muscle relaxers and anti-inflammatories. If it wasn't for that one ENT putting it in writing that it was at least a possibility I would be out of luck because every other doctor I saw for the problem insisted it wasn't possible. I had to dig through numerous textbooks on my own until I found a reference in a ER nursing text (Signs & Symptoms) that mentioned cervical spondylosis as one possible cause of tinnitus, then copy it and show it to my PCP before she would send me for any tests. This was all several years ago now, and my diagnosis of HCV, and increasing arthritic problems, then thyroid, all shoved the tinnitus on to the back burner. I am on Celebrex and Flexerill, and they help with both the tinnitus and arthritis. It really is funny though, you pretty much nailed it on the head, all the things going on with swelling, tensing, etc., and yet you've never even seen me, examined me, etc., and yet the doctors I've seen never could figure it out! Even when I told them that was the root of the problem. Believe me, I can FEEL and HEAR the association. Thanks for all your suggestions. Ok, I know you are all sick of hearing about my tinnitus, after all this is an HCV group not a tinnitus group so I'll shut up about it now!!! Claudine --- 2byteme@... wrote: > Dear Claudine: > Sorry, I could not tell who wrote that last > message, but, at least > you got it. From what you have described, and the > factors that make it > worse, I would think the problems lies more with > muscle/skeletal causes. > From what seems to happen, while you probably have > tinnitis, it sounds > like the cause is related to something " pinching " on > a nerve. > From what you have described, depending on age, > you probably have > some normal deterioration of the vertebrae or disks > in your cervical, > (neck), or upper thoracic, (upper back/shoulder area > to just above the > buttocks), which may be either showing signs of > arthritis changes. > All of these areas, which as you tense, either > from excess use, > tightness, the shots, or any number of combinations, > may not only > causing a misalignment of any of these muscles, but > also cause some > swelling. The swelling may be pinching on a nerve, > or nerves, and as > that occurs, your body is trying to compensate, and > in fact, over > compensating. This may be causing a snow ball > reaction=as your body > compensates to ease off one muscle, tendon, etc., it > pulls on another. > This may cause more swelling, and just aggravate the > situation. > It sounds, if you could, decrease whatever is > irritating that area > of your body, it might lessen the pressure on that > area, and, also the > pressure on the nerve, and decrease the tinnitis. > Suggestions to > consider are anti-inflammatory medications, > evaluation of the neck and > facial muscles by a MRI, evaluation by someone who > specializes in TMJ, > an oral maxillary surgeon, etc. What also may help, > (don't laugh too > hard, it has worked for a number of people), is > message therapy. Someone > who could concentrate on the muscle groups from the > shoulder to the > head. If whatever is straining, or causing > inflammation in that area > could be reduced, it might help the tinnitis. > Since this is really causing you major problems, > if it were me, I > would try anything that would not reasonably cause > additional problems, > and see if anything works. If you look at any > detailed anatomy book, > you'll see all the overlapping areas, and any of > them could be causing, > or aggravating your situation. It's worth a look. > Marty > > > ===== Claudine claudinecrews@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 Marty, thanks for this angle on tinnitis! I do have a bulging disc or two in my neck and so maybe that is contributing to the tinnitis. i'll have to see if when my neck and back are tense it increases have not really noticed that that is the case so faar though may keep a log. Suzy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2001 Report Share Posted February 3, 2001 " ACN has always been pretty good about allowing x-ray studies we do, as long as our records justify them " I think this depends on the state.....In Ca. ACN is pretty bad...thus I got out 8 years ago.. Case in point. I had a patient who was in an MVA where the car was totaled....he was a mess. ACN refused to pay for the X-rays, cervical collar. They allowed 6 visits. My records were not only impeccable but specifically what they wanted. Perhaps they have changed..but at that time they had young D.C.'s who had never practiced make the call according to their guidelines. This patient needed lots of rehab, which I then billed to the med-pay and received payment. The patient eventually settled the case with the third party for $20,000 +. 6 months later...ACN contacted me and demanded that I refund all the money to State Farm (med-pay)..I refused, they threatened to sue..I refused. That was the end of ACN for me. Gene , D.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Hello everyone, FYI: > > Assistance News: > > > > Internet Access Grants Announced: > > The Verizon Foundation is providing $240 grants for nonprofits that > > currently do not have Internet access. The program targets those > > with annual budgets under $500,000, but any 501 © (3) is eligible. > > Call 1-800-360-7955 or vist http://foundation.verizon.com/06003c.html. > > > > from the Verizon Web Page: > > > > " E-Grants > > > > Verizon Foundation now offers eGrants to nonprofit organizations! > > > > E-mail, online searches, fundraising, communicating with new donors > > or potential donors, discussion groups, your own virtual newsletter -- > > Internet access opens the door to online communication. We invite > > the nonprofit community to become a part of this Internet opportunity. > > > > Our mission is to provide an online philanthropic community network > > to support the more than 700,000 nonprofit organizations in the > > United States, and eGrants is one way we want to take you to the > > Internet highway by offering this exciting resource. > > > > Beginning immediately, nonprofits can request an eGrant from Verizon > > Foundation, in the amount of $240, toward Internet access from the > > vendor of their choice. All you need to do is select the Internet > > Service Provider (ISP) and complete the application. Although the > > program targets smaller non-profits (those with annual budget under > > $500,000) any 501©(3) may apply. > > > > Nonprofits that currently have Internet access are ineligible. In > > alignment with Verizon Foundation's funding priorities, we ask that > > applying nonprofits address one or more of those areas, which are: > > Literacy, Digital Divide, Workforce Development and Community > > Technology Development. It is important that the description includes > > how Internet access will benefit the communities served and how > > partnerships will be developed. > > > > Your organization can benefit from the vast resources of technology > > through the Internet -- apply online for an eGrant today! " > > > > Toren > > Mirant Health Promotion wrote: > To Post a message, send it to: Groups > > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: -unsubscribe > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 5 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RE: Workers Compensation Insurance > From: Don Villarejo <donfarm@...> > 2. Parada > From: Guadalupe <ramirez_guadalupe@...> > 3. RE: Workers Compensation Insurance > From: Kerry Souza <Kerry.Souza@...> > 4. Re: Digest Number 221 > From: dsouza@... > 5. RE: Workers Compensation Insurance > From: " McMurray," <cmcmurray@...> > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:10:40 -0700 > From: Don Villarejo <donfarm@...> > Subject: RE: Workers Compensation Insurance > > Adolfo - You're right on target. Yes, education, education, education. > But it has to be in a form that is accessible to current farm workers, by > which I mean in-person delivery of facts and ideas from someone who is > viewed as trustworthy. > > There is little, if any, of that type of education going on in California > today. Except for Florida, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, > Pennsylvania and Washington, where there are locally based organizing > efforts in place, I am pretty much ignorant of what is going on in other > states. > > As to union efforts, there are four unions active in California > agriculture: United Farm Workers, Teamsters Local 890, United Food and > Commercial Workers Local 1096, and Christian Dairy Workers. > > The UFW is pretty much tied up with the organizing drive at Pictsweet > Mushrooms, and to some extent with political work (in support of > legislation and/or candidates for public office). Their local field > offices are helpful for workers who are having difficulty in dealing with > California or Federal bureaucrats, but the staff tends to rely on assisting > walk-ins or UFW " associate members " as opposed to full-bore community > educational work. > > Teamsters Local 890 represents the employees of Dole Fresh Vegetables > (about 3,000 harvest workers), as well as folks at some other smaller farms > and in the food processing industry. The Dole contract is, by far, the > largest union contract in terms of workers represented of any in U.S. > agriculture. It is also the longest in terms of years in effect (roughly > 40 consecutive years). Their President, Gallegos, is a very > dedicated individual who is fully committed to worker education. However, > this union's resources are completely tied up in a bitter, long-term > dispute at Basic Vegetable Products in King City where a union-busting > initiative, now two years old, has resulted in a strike and subsequent > lockout. BVP is 's former workplace before he became president of the > local, and his brother and dad worked there before the lockout. The good > news from Local 890 is that they initiated a citizenship project some six > or seven years ago that focusses on the communities in which there are > significant numbers of members of their union (Salinas Valley, Huron). > Proyecto Vote (Central Coast Citizenship Project) is now a separate > non-profit organization with its own paid staff and leadership. This > project is very active in worker education, mostly around civic > participation concerns, not health and safety or workplace issues. > > UFCW Local 1096 absorbed the Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Workers Local 78-B a > few years back and is currently digging its way out of what turned out to > be quite a mess. UFCW represents workers at several medium-to-large > Salinas Valley vegetable grower-shipper operations. Their President, Pete > Maturino, has a long history of community work in the region, and showed up > to the community meeting I organized in recently at which I > reported back to the community on the California Agricultural Worker Health > Survey findings. He plans to use the findings in his work in . > > Christian Dairy Workers (I may have their exact name wrong) is a small > union that represented employees for a number of years at several medium > size dairies in the Central Valley of California. I have no direct contact > with them at this time and am uninformed about their current activities. > > Generally, I think that Promotores de Salud are the way to go for mass > outreach and worker education, provided that they actually reside in the > communities they serve and see their mission in terms of door-to-door > educational initiatives, or building house meetings around issues of > concern in the community. Ideally, they should be hooked up wih local > providers but should definitely not be stationed in those offices. Some > years ago, I started a Promotores project at the California Institute for > Rural Studies in conjunction with the annual Festival de la Salud that we > sponsored for four consecutive years at the Yolo County Fairgrounds. > Gutierrez, then Program Officer at the Sierra Health Foundation, was able > to provide a substantial grant to support the work, and we also received an > Environmental Justice grant from US EPA in the first round of those awards. > > The model we used at CIRS was weekly meetings of the promotores (25 persons > recruited from seven nearby farm worker communities-all but five or six > were current farm workers at that time) at which we had on-going > instruction (using popular education methods and entirely in Spanish) > coupled with door-to-door work. In between meetings, there were also > " homework " assignments based in the communities where folks resided. For > example, the first assignment was to figure out all of the local health > providers (medical, dental, vision care - opening hours, languages, MediCal > acceptance policy, etc) in their own communities and then build a > collective directory of local services for the whole region. We also added > on the Red Cross First Aid/CPR class and the WPS " train the trainers " class > as well as site visits to local clinics and providers. Each promotor > worked door-to-door in the community in which they resided and built a > relationship with about 100 workers and their family members. As best I > can recall, the program lasted about three years, when the funding ran out, > and seven of the original group went on to careers in health. We also > produced a " Guia para los trabajadores agricolas en california " which was a > very successful pocket-size guide, in Spanish, describing both worker > rights and contact names and addresses for service providers, labor unions > and commmunity-based organizations. > > My most vivid memory of the guia was how the blank " tarjeta de las horas de > trabajo " we included (to assist people in figuring out their hourly wage > rate for minimum wage compliance purposes) was used by a worker who had > been injured on the job. His mayordomo took him to a clinic but insisted > that no workers comp claim should be filed. Later, the filled-out tarjeta, > in which he had written his hours of work on each work day, was admitted as > evidence of employment when he filed a complaint against his employer. It > turned out that his boss had paid him in cash, and there was no other > record of his employment. > > Yes, education, education, education. > > Don > At 01:19 PM 5/30/01 -0400, Mata, Adolfo wrote: > >Thanks Don, > > > >Very interesting. Education, education, education and information are the > >keys to helping farmworkers help themselves when it comes to worker rights > >and workman's compensation benefits---however, I am afraid no one is doing > >this. This would clearly be a benefit of unionizing ALL farmworkers. Would > >like to read your thoughts on this issue. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Don Villarejo [mailto:donfarm@...] > >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:58 PM > > > >Subject: [ ] Workers Compensation Insurance > > > > > > >Hi Everyone - The discussion of workers compensation insurance for hired > >farm workers is an important one, and I'd like to add a few comments. > > > >First, governance and regulation of workers comp insurance, like all forms > >of insurance, is a matter reserved exclusively to the states. Whether or > >not a particular group of workers in a particular are required to be > >covered by this form of insurance is at the sole discretion of state law. > >About a dozen states currently require that virtually all agricultural > >workers, with the important exception of farmers and unpaid family members, > >be protected by workers comp insurance. > > > >Second, in nearly all states where universal workers comp insurance is not > >required there are state-specific laws defining which employers are > >required to provide this form of insurance. Usually, but not always, a > >minimum size of employer payroll is the determining factor that triggers > >the requirement. > > > >Third, California, as in most states requiring workers comp coverage of > >virtually all private sector employees, has had universal coverage for more > >than three-quarters of a century. This requirement had nothing to do with > >labor rights or unions, rather it was insurance companies and large > >corporations which wanted to avoid costly and prolonged litigation that > >forced the legislature to enact the universal coverage requirement. The > >deal was simple, workers get universal coverage and, in return, give up the > >right to sue, unless there has been misconduct by the employer. > > > >Fourth, each state regulates the worker comp benefits and base premiums > >through some form of actuarial review. In California, the Workers > >Compensation Insurance Rating Bureau performs this function and annually > >determines aggregate losses and sets baseline premiums for each > >classification code (there are fourteen class codes for agricultural > >activities, ranging from Stock Farm to Vineyard). The California > >Legislature sets the level of benefits. However, employers in California > >purchase their workers comp insurance through private sector companies, or, > >sometimes as a last resort, through the state-operated State Compensation > >Insurance Fund. The premiums charged a specific employer are set by a > >combination of review of baseline actuarial data from WCIRB and by the > >actual history of workplace injury at that place of work (experience > >modification). > > > >Fifth, it is my experience that nearly all very serious acute injuries that > >occur in California agriculture are handled through the workers comp system > > >in a manner that assures prompt and competent medical treatment. On the > >other hand, minor injuries, particularly those of a chronic nature, are not > >handled well. This is because of the difficulty of precise attribution of > >causality for chronic injuries or disease as well as the reluctance of many > >workers to seek care promptly. For many workers, a minor injury may be > >ignored under the pressure to get work and earn money. As a measure of the > >level of success of the workers comp system in California, we asked workers > >who participated in the California Agricultural Worker Health Survey > >whether they had ever had a paid claim, and 21% of those we asked said they > >had, and reported the date and amount of benefits they received. > > > >Sixth, there is a major loophole in California benefits that may also > >discourage workers from seeking workers compensation benefits. That is, > >the indemnity payment for lost work time kicks in only after three lost > >days of work, or if the subject is hospitalized. Moreover, the amount of > >payment for lost work time is calculated on the basis of 52 previous weeks > >of work. If a worker has only worked for a total of half a year in that > >period, then the benefit is 50% of what it otherwise would be. Obviously, > >some workers see the hassle of applying as not worth the trouble. > > > >Don Villarejo > >Don Villarejo, PhD > >P.O. Box 381 > >, CA 95617 > >(530)756-6545 voice & facsimile > > > >To Post a message, send it to: Groups > > > >To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: > > -unsubscribe > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RE: Workers Compensation Insurance >> From: Kerry Souza <Kerry.Souza@...> >> 4. Re: Digest Number 221 >> From: dsouza@... >> 5. RE: Workers Compensation Insurance >> From: " McMurray," <cmcmurray@...> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:10:40 -0700 >> From: Don Villarejo <donfarm@...> >> Subject: RE: Workers Compensation Insurance >> >> Adolfo - You're right on target. Yes, education, education, education. >> But it has to be in a form that is accessible to current farm workers, by >> which I mean in-person delivery of facts and ideas from someone who is >> viewed as trustworthy. >> >> There is little, if any, of that type of education going on in California >> today. Except for Florida, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, >> Pennsylvania and Washington, where there are locally based organizing >> efforts in place, I am pretty much ignorant of what is going on in other >> states. >> >> As to union efforts, there are four unions active in California >> agriculture: United Farm Workers, Teamsters Local 890, United Food and >> Commercial Workers Local 1096, and Christian Dairy Workers. >> >> The UFW is pretty much tied up with the organizing drive at Pictsweet >> Mushrooms, and to some extent with political work (in support of >> legislation and/or candidates for public office). Their local field >> offices are helpful for workers who are having difficulty in dealing with >> California or Federal bureaucrats, but the staff tends to rely on assisting >> walk-ins or UFW " associate members " as opposed to full-bore community >> educational work. >> >> Teamsters Local 890 represents the employees of Dole Fresh Vegetables >> (about 3,000 harvest workers), as well as folks at some other smaller farms >> and in the food processing industry. The Dole contract is, by far, the >> largest union contract in terms of workers represented of any in U.S. >> agriculture. It is also the longest in terms of years in effect (roughly >> 40 consecutive years). Their President, Gallegos, is a very >> dedicated individual who is fully committed to worker education. However, >> this union's resources are completely tied up in a bitter, long-term >> dispute at Basic Vegetable Products in King City where a union-busting >> initiative, now two years old, has resulted in a strike and subsequent >> lockout. BVP is 's former workplace before he became president of the >> local, and his brother and dad worked there before the lockout. The good >> news from Local 890 is that they initiated a citizenship project some six >> or seven years ago that focusses on the communities in which there are >> significant numbers of members of their union (Salinas Valley, Huron). >> Proyecto Vote (Central Coast Citizenship Project) is now a separate >> non-profit organization with its own paid staff and leadership. This >> project is very active in worker education, mostly around civic >> participation concerns, not health and safety or workplace issues. >> >> UFCW Local 1096 absorbed the Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Workers Local 78-B a >> few years back and is currently digging its way out of what turned out to >> be quite a mess. UFCW represents workers at several medium-to-large >> Salinas Valley vegetable grower-shipper operations. Their President, Pete >> Maturino, has a long history of community work in the region, and showed up >> to the community meeting I organized in recently at which I >> reported back to the community on the California Agricultural Worker Health >> Survey findings. He plans to use the findings in his work in . >> >> Christian Dairy Workers (I may have their exact name wrong) is a small >> union that represented employees for a number of years at several medium >> size dairies in the Central Valley of California. I have no direct contact >> with them at this time and am uninformed about their current activities. >> >> Generally, I think that Promotores de Salud are the way to go for mass >> outreach and worker education, provided that they actually reside in the >> communities they serve and see their mission in terms of door-to-door >> educational initiatives, or building house meetings around issues of >> concern in the community. Ideally, they should be hooked up wih local >> providers but should definitely not be stationed in those offices. Some >> years ago, I started a Promotores project at the California Institute for >> Rural Studies in conjunction with the annual Festival de la Salud that we >> sponsored for four consecutive years at the Yolo County Fairgrounds. >> Gutierrez, then Program Officer at the Sierra Health Foundation, was able >> to provide a substantial grant to support the work, and we also received an >> Environmental Justice grant from US EPA in the first round of those awards. >> >> The model we used at CIRS was weekly meetings of the promotores (25 persons >> recruited from seven nearby farm worker communities-all but five or six >> were current farm workers at that time) at which we had on-going >> instruction (using popular education methods and entirely in Spanish) >> coupled with door-to-door work. In between meetings, there were also >> " homework " assignments based in the communities where folks resided. For >> example, the first assignment was to figure out all of the local health >> providers (medical, dental, vision care - opening hours, languages, MediCal >> acceptance policy, etc) in their own communities and then build a >> collective directory of local services for the whole region. We also added >> on the Red Cross First Aid/CPR class and the WPS " train the trainers " class >> as well as site visits to local clinics and providers. Each promotor >> worked door-to-door in the community in which they resided and built a >> relationship with about 100 workers and their family members. As best I >> can recall, the program lasted about three years, when the funding ran out, >> and seven of the original group went on to careers in health. We also >> produced a " Guia para los trabajadores agricolas en california " which was a >> very successful pocket-size guide, in Spanish, describing both worker >> rights and contact names and addresses for service providers, labor unions >> and commmunity-based organizations. >> >> My most vivid memory of the guia was how the blank " tarjeta de las horas de >> trabajo " we included (to assist people in figuring out their hourly wage >> rate for minimum wage compliance purposes) was used by a worker who had >> been injured on the job. His mayordomo took him to a clinic but insisted >> that no workers comp claim should be filed. Later, the filled-out tarjeta, >> in which he had written his hours of work on each work day, was admitted as >> evidence of employment when he filed a complaint against his employer. It >> turned out that his boss had paid him in cash, and there was no other >> record of his employment. >> >> Yes, education, education, education. >> >> Don >> At 01:19 PM 5/30/01 -0400, Mata, Adolfo wrote: >> >Thanks Don, >> > >> >Very interesting. Education, education, education and information are the >> >keys to helping farmworkers help themselves when it comes to worker rights >> >and workman's compensation benefits---however, I am afraid no one is doing >> >this. This would clearly be a benefit of unionizing ALL farmworkers. Would >> >like to read your thoughts on this issue. >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Don Villarejo [mailto:donfarm@...] >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:58 PM >> > >> >Subject: [ ] Workers Compensation Insurance >> >> > >> > >> >Hi Everyone - The discussion of workers compensation insurance for hired >> >farm workers is an important one, and I'd like to add a few comments. >> > >> >First, governance and regulation of workers comp insurance, like all forms >> >of insurance, is a matter reserved exclusively to the states. Whether or >> >not a particular group of workers in a particular are required to be >> >covered by this form of insurance is at the sole discretion of state law. >> >About a dozen states currently require that virtually all agricultural >> >workers, with the important exception of farmers and unpaid family members, >> >be protected by workers comp insurance. >> > >> >Second, in nearly all states where universal workers comp insurance is not >> >required there are state-specific laws defining which employers are >> >required to provide this form of insurance. Usually, but not always, a >> >minimum size of employer payroll is the determining factor that triggers >> >the requirement. >> > >> >Third, California, as in most states requiring workers comp coverage of >> >virtually all private sector employees, has had universal coverage for more >> >than three-quarters of a century. This requirement had nothing to do with >> >labor rights or unions, rather it was insurance companies and large >> >corporations which wanted to avoid costly and prolonged litigation that >> >forced the legislature to enact the universal coverage requirement. The >> >deal was simple, workers get universal coverage and, in return, give up the >> >right to sue, unless there has been misconduct by the employer. >> > >> >Fourth, each state regulates the worker comp benefits and base premiums >> >through some form of actuarial review. In California, the Workers >> >Compensation Insurance Rating Bureau performs this function and annually >> >determines aggregate losses and sets baseline premiums for each >> >classification code (there are fourteen class codes for agricultural >> >activities, ranging from Stock Farm to Vineyard). The California >> >Legislature sets the level of benefits. However, employers in California >> >purchase their workers comp insurance through private sector companies, or, >> >sometimes as a last resort, through the state-operated State Compensation >> >Insurance Fund. The premiums charged a specific employer are set by a >> >combination of review of baseline actuarial data from WCIRB and by the >> >actual history of workplace injury at that place of work (experience >> >modification). >> > >> >Fifth, it is my experience that nearly all very serious acute injuries that >> >occur in California agriculture are handled through the workers comp system >> >> >in a manner that assures prompt and competent medical treatment. On the >> >other hand, minor injuries, particularly those of a chronic nature, are not >> >handled well. This is because of the difficulty of precise attribution of >> >causality for chronic injuries or disease as well as the reluctance of many >> >workers to seek care promptly. For many workers, a minor injury may be >> >ignored under the pressure to get work and earn money. As a measure of the >> >level of success of the workers comp system in California, we asked workers >> >who participated in the California Agricultural Worker Health Survey >> >whether they had ever had a paid claim, and 21% of those we asked said they >> >had, and reported the date and amount of benefits they received. >> > >> >Sixth, there is a major loophole in California benefits that may also >> >discourage workers from seeking workers compensation benefits. That is, >> >the indemnity payment for lost work time kicks in only after three lost >> >days of work, or if the subject is hospitalized. Moreover, the amount of >> >payment for lost work time is calculated on the basis of 52 previous weeks >> >of work. If a worker has only worked for a total of half a year in that >> >period, then the benefit is 50% of what it otherwise would be. Obviously, >> >some workers see the hassle of applying as not worth the trouble. >> > >> >Don Villarejo >> >Don Villarejo, PhD >> >P.O. Box 381 >> >, CA 95617 >> >(530)756-6545 voice & facsimile >> > >> >To Post a message, send it to: Groups >> > >> >To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: >> > -unsubscribe >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Larry: can I have those replacement cuffs if you are not going to use them. has a jacket that needs them and I know how to sew! You can rent jet skis at many lakes and resort areas. Yes, is rigging up a clothes line so bring hangars on clothes if you can. If you can't it's fine too! Makes them easier to look at. Everything that is left will go to charity the very next day so take all you want. Donna: you may have an eating disorder. Most banded people really don't. As a matter of fact, a bona fide eating disorder is a contraindication to banding. We could talk about it more in person if you can come on Monday. Phyllis: glad to hear you and are coming. Sorry Tami can't make it. At the new practice we will only be doing people under 350 pounds until the hospital gives us approval to do larger people (probably within a few months). However, we could talk to your larger friend about going to Dr. Rumbaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I agree with you Connie. It's easy for the medical industry to say it's us who have the health problem, this " disease " , when really it's all the crap they're putting in our food that's the problem. It's the processing, dyes, additives, preservatives, and the like that are the problem. It isn't our bodies that are wrong - if anything our bodies are allerting the rest of society that there " is something wrong with our food " . A warning signal; a " danger sign " - and no one is paying attention. And instead of addressing the real problem, the chemicals, they pin it on us - society - give this disease a name, Celiac Disease, and try to sell us some pills. You know, my mom said the food & drug administration are " one in the same " ...so who do you think is winning? Cancer is on the rise, to the point of it being the next epidemic, and no one is making the connection between the food they're eating and the cancer they're getting. Good luck, kido. --- wrote: > There are 4 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. RE: newly diagnosed > From: " Connie Hampton " > <connie@...> > 2. RE: newly diagnosed > From: " Hersom, A. " > <susan.hersom@...> > 3. RE: newly diagnosed > From: Stanoff > <cstanoff1@...> > 4. RE: newly diagnosed > From: " Hersom, A. " > <susan.hersom@...> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:26:52 -0700 > From: " Connie Hampton " > <connie@...> > Subject: RE: newly diagnosed > > , > > I've gotten a lot of support here and at the > group GFCFNN. I like > Heidi's characterization of gluten as " rat poison " > and am working on > thinking of the whole wheat dependent culture as > just crazy, addicted and > SAD (standard American diet). And of wheat and > wheat based products as the > sad consequence of great minds seduced and addicted > to the opioid that > gluten breaks down to in the gut. > > > > Connie > > > > _____ > > From: > [mailto: ] > On Behalf Of Stanoff > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:44 AM > > Subject: [ ] newly diagnosed > > > > Hi, > > > > I was diagnosed about a month ago and would love to > hear how any of you guys > have dealt with the emotional side of celiac. I am > thrilled to be feeling > better, but am still adjusting to this huge > lifestyle change, especially > when I think of how this change is for forever. Or, > how frustrated I get > when I trip up and accidentally eat something that > makes me sick again... > > > > Thanks -- it's good to know you guys are out there. > > > > S. > > _____ > > Start your > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http:/www./r/hs> > day > with - make it your home page > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 >And instead of addressing the real problem, the >chemicals, they pin it on us - society - give this >disease a name, Celiac Disease, and try to sell us >some pills. What pills are sold to celiacs? Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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