Re: Rosie - Now Jay Why I think Heavy Nutritional Dosing is not always good idea

January 12, 2006

Hi Jay:

In my humble opinion heavy nutritional dosing is acting at a pharmacological

level and may actually worsen the symptoms by driving the toxins deeper or

by creating a healing crisis which stresses an already stressed system. It

is helpful to understand the underlying processes that bring about the

body's homeostatic regulatory actions.

How old is your son and what all is he taking both OTC and RX and for how

long? What is he eating, how is his environment? Does he have any

sensitivities or allergies/reactions? How is his digestion? Ability to

assimilate foods; digest and assimilate fats?

So many factors to consider and remember the supplements are chemicals and

they do cause a reaction in the body. Also fat soluble vitamins are stored

in the body, we can take too many. I've seen something as simple as

fillers causing negative reactions and once a pure supplement is used the

reactions will cease. If a person has a soy or corn allergy they could react

to a supplement, someone with Lupus taking supplements with alfalfa will

have a Lupus flare. So many variables.

Many foods are high in antioxidants; perhaps we should focus first on our

diet that is specific for each individual in the family. Learn what foods we

should never consume, what are healthy foods and how to prepare them and

really eat foods as our " medicine " rather than something tasty or comfort

food. Yes I know that takes time, research and a discipline to actually plan

meals and cook them. Some days I wonder why I'm spending an hour chopping

all the fresh vegetables and preparing everything from scratch rather than

opening a box or popping something in the microwave and then I have to

remember it's for our health.

I have a little flow chart In summary here's what I think happens within

our bodies when exposed to toxins:

1. Excretion Phase

2. Reaction Phase

3. Deposition Phase

4. Impregnation Phase

5. Degeneration Phase

6. Neoplasm phase (abnormal genetic imprinting)

I also think we must acknowledge how much vital energy the patient has and

what their recuperative abilities are. A " healing crisis " or " aggravation "

is typically a " healing crisis " . Minimizing these early by proper

management may save later suppressive therapy. An analogy is to think of

the patient as someone how wishes to work for food. If you work them in the

weakened state, you may be disappointed in the speed and quality of work.

However, if you feed them first and build their strength, they will perform

better. Patients with low vital energy or chronicity of the condition will

need longer to introduce the remedies which will affect a healing respond.

Goals I'm my opinion:

1. Remove the obstacles: define and understand problem, identify and

remove the " stressors " to get rid of the body's need to compensate and

adapt. This could be removing a food from a diet or physically removing one

from an environment or removing the stressors from the home such as dust,

dust mites, mold and bacteria growing in the shower head, etc.

2. Improve respiration: Cellular function depends on the import and export

of ionic particles that are converted to intracellular structures and energy

production. Simple ways to increase cellular respiration is to utilize

exercise, stimulate the autonomic nervous system (massage, skin brushing,

water therapy, mild exercise, etc).

3. Strength to cleanse. Detoxifying can be stressful and not well

tolerated by everyone. Systems of many patients are too toxic and they will

likely have worsening of symptoms.

4. Toxin excretion. Drainage of organs must be improved; excretion of

toxins is done via kidneys, liver, blood, lungs, lymph, skin and digestive

tract. Assisting excretory systems is important to assure non-reabsorption

of the toxins. Without drainage, toxins will often dislodge from their

binding sites and reattach elsewhere causing either aggravation or new

disease process.

5. Drawing toxins out. Please note there may be multiple toxic loads on

the body and repetitive use of steps 1-5 may be needed. Toxin excretion can

be considered by the body as trauma and therefore free-radical scavenging

occurs.

6. Re-strengthen.

7. Restore function

8. Re-inoculate: re-establish proper flora and terrain is suggested, but

should be done gradually to avoid pathogenicity and assist adaptation by the

body.

9. Constitutional ongoing support.

Just my thoughts,

Rosie

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on mold-related things we all

" If someone is critically ill with multi-faceted problems they would

have to

be very careful with any protocol including powerful antioxidants " .

Hi Rosie,

Can you please elaborate on the above ? My son does not seem to

handle ANY antioxidant (including vitamin C, E, A, NAC, lipo GSH,

ALA) for more than a few days. I haven't been able to figure out

why. He wasn't like this a few years ago.

Thank you so much

Jay

January 13, 2006

Hi Rosie,

Thank you SO much for the detailed explanation. Everything you have said makes

complete sense. I have been very careful with antioxidants when I learned that

Babesia ( a lyme coinfection which is very much like malaria) which my son had,

can be difficult to get rid of in the presence of antioxidants. I don't know if

this is what was happening with my son but I have been very careful.

I know what you mean about eating fresh. I also chop vegetables all day (

almost) as I give my son fresh vegetable juice two-three times a day.

Thanks so much

Jay

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