Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Having been through this myself,I would recommend not contaminating your new home with anything from your old home, or, in fact from anything in your interim home, as it has been cross contaminated, You can read many posts on the archives about this, or email me back channel to discuss it. you can lo-- In , " jkrishnaa " <jkrishnaa@y...> wrote: > > Hi > > We are moving to a house that has NO carpet and only has ceramic > tiles everywhere and has plenty of windows. > > > I have a question on contaminating materials with mold. When we > moved from OR to AZ more than a year ago into a new apartment we all > felt wonderful and my son started showing cognitive improvement. But > unfortunately (this is my educated guess) after we got our 'stuff' > from OR, we all slowly started getting the same symptoms we had in > OR. > > To make things worse, there was a hole on the roof of this > apartment that may have let some water in (and the maintenance guy > suspected this hole may have been the reason why scorpions were > jumping out of the vents) The scorpion problem went away after this > hole was filled. I always left the fan on 'ON' position and this > plus the possible water collection in the vents (per the maintenance > guy) may have made things worse. > > But my question is is it possible that we contaminated the > new 'stuff' with mold that may have been brought from OR in > mattresses, furniture, clothes etc ? > > Since I am really in the mood to throw away 'stuff', so please give > me some ideas on what I should definitely dispose so I won't > contaminate the new place. Also, any ideas on how to keep the new > place moldfree as much as possible. Where can I get info on this ? > > I would greatly appreciate your help. > > Thanks so much > Jay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 Jay, I'm curious about your son. I just posted a message about my son yesterday and his battle with mold-related illness. He too regressed starting about 16-18 months of age...I'd love to hear your story if you don't mind. My son is now 4 1/2 and just starting to turn it around...he went undiagnosed and hovered near death for about three years. We've seen Dr. Marinkovich and are submitting all of our paperwork this week to Dr. Shoemaker's office because I feel like he should be better than he is....I feel like there's an aspect of this illness that we just aren't addressing... I see that you live in AZ...We live in the mountains of Colorado which has made a big difference in his comfort level. Have you found a good local doctor to help you there? [] Helpful hints, please Hi We are moving to a house that has NO carpet and only has ceramic tiles everywhere and has plenty of windows. I have a question on contaminating materials with mold. When we moved from OR to AZ more than a year ago into a new apartment we all felt wonderful and my son started showing cognitive improvement. But unfortunately (this is my educated guess) after we got our 'stuff' from OR, we all slowly started getting the same symptoms we had in OR. To make things worse, there was a hole on the roof of this apartment that may have let some water in (and the maintenance guy suspected this hole may have been the reason why scorpions were jumping out of the vents) The scorpion problem went away after this hole was filled. I always left the fan on 'ON' position and this plus the possible water collection in the vents (per the maintenance guy) may have made things worse. But my question is is it possible that we contaminated the new 'stuff' with mold that may have been brought from OR in mattresses, furniture, clothes etc ? Since I am really in the mood to throw away 'stuff', so please give me some ideas on what I should definitely dispose so I won't contaminate the new place. Also, any ideas on how to keep the new place moldfree as much as possible. Where can I get info on this ? I would greatly appreciate your help. Thanks so much Jay FAIR USE NOTICE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 > I have a question on contaminating materials with mold. When we > moved from OR to AZ more than a year ago into a new apartment we all felt wonderful and my son started showing cognitive improvement. But unfortunately (this is my educated guess) after we got our 'stuff' from OR, we all slowly started getting the same symptoms we had in OR. > Reminds me of when I got out of the Army after being stationed in Hitlers moldy headquarters in Germany. Couldn't figure out why I was so sick there. Got home, had a great summer, then my " stuff " arrived. Stereo, records/tapes, clothes, etc. I was so happy. Unpacked everything. Hooked up the stereo. Listened to some music I hadn't heard in while - passed out. Couldn't believe it. Went right back to feeling like crap. That's all it took! And you know? It's funny that people blamed it on " stress " . I'd say " About what? I just got out of the Army and couldn't be happier " , but the stressologizers just won't " let it go " . Their response is more or less, " Well, what you complain of is caused by stress, so you MUST be under stress. Maybe you just weren't happy enough lately to recover from all the stress you had in the military - and your " stuff " brought back unconscious memories " . Psychologizers are like that, there's just nothing they can't dream up - except perhaps that a physiological explanation might just be real! Sure wish I had known then what I know now! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Dude - Toss all your stuff and your car... Rap up all your most important items in 3ml plastic garbage bags(x2) and then put them into rubbermade containers... Then Ship them somewhere where they will be safe and Dry... Deal with them later... P.S. get rid of you car!!!!! all my best m --- jkrishnaa <jkrishnaa@...> wrote: > Hi > > We are moving to a house that has NO carpet and only > has ceramic > tiles everywhere and has plenty of windows. > > > I have a question on contaminating materials with > mold. When we > moved from OR to AZ more than a year ago into a new > apartment we all > felt wonderful and my son started showing cognitive > improvement. But > unfortunately (this is my educated guess) after we > got our 'stuff' > from OR, we all slowly started getting the same > symptoms we had in > OR. > > To make things worse, there was a hole on the roof > of this > apartment that may have let some water in (and the > maintenance guy > suspected this hole may have been the reason why > scorpions were > jumping out of the vents) The scorpion problem went > away after this > hole was filled. I always left the fan on 'ON' > position and this > plus the possible water collection in the vents (per > the maintenance > guy) may have made things worse. > > But my question is is it possible that we > contaminated the > new 'stuff' with mold that may have been brought > from OR in > mattresses, furniture, clothes etc ? > > Since I am really in the mood to throw away 'stuff', > so please give > me some ideas on what I should definitely dispose so > I won't > contaminate the new place. Also, any ideas on how to > keep the new > place moldfree as much as possible. Where can I get > info on this ? > > I would greatly appreciate your help. > > Thanks so much > Jay > > > > > > __________________________________________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Meggan Smoler wrote: > > Dude - Toss all your stuff and your car... > > Rap up all your most important items in 3ml plastic > garbage bags(x2) and then put them into rubbermade > containers... > > Then Ship them somewhere where they will be safe and > Dry... > > Deal with them later... > > P.S. get rid of you car!!!!! > > all my best > > m I had Dr D pack everything loosely, for air circulation, and put in dry storage. After five years, she says the only things that didn't denature were ones that were wrapped tightly, so she had the same experience I did. And unless the car has active growth, there's a chance that it might die down out in the hot sun - my truck did. Just took a while. I just hate to see people toss irreplaceable things when I've seen evidence that going totally radical may not be totally necessary. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Thanks a lot, Meggan and for your ideas and thoughts. Jay erikmoldwarrior <erikmoldwarrior@...> wrote: Meggan Smoler wrote: > > Dude - Toss all your stuff and your car... > > Rap up all your most important items in 3ml plastic > garbage bags(x2) and then put them into rubbermade > containers... > > Then Ship them somewhere where they will be safe and > Dry... > > Deal with them later... > > P.S. get rid of you car!!!!! > > all my best > > m I had Dr D pack everything loosely, for air circulation, and put in dry storage. After five years, she says the only things that didn't denature were ones that were wrapped tightly, so she had the same experience I did. And unless the car has active growth, there's a chance that it might die down out in the hot sun - my truck did. Just took a while. I just hate to see people toss irreplaceable things when I've seen evidence that going totally radical may not be totally necessary. - FAIR USE NOTICE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 What are people's experiences with using ionizers or UV lights or the sun (or any/all three) to docontaminate things? Of course, matresses and any 'heavy' clothes, dusty, undustable, porous items must go.. but other things? I am thinking about moving (hear that everybody?) and wondering how I could do it logictically.. I am especially interested in books.. I have lots of newish, expensive, (often technical) books that I bought as I felt my 'ability to absorb new information' slipping. I still have not gotten to absorb that new information yet, and I would hate to throw it away before I had the chance to.. (losing LOTS of money in the process..) Any ideas? Most of the books are not that old, matte paper, they are semi-glossy paper which seems much less porous.. The magazines (more porous) - at least the non-collectible ones, can go, although I think I am going to try to build some kind of document management system to store scans of articles that I think I'll need in the future.. My apartment has maybe ten huge bookcases, floor to ceiling, filled with books.. get the picture? I probably want to keep at least half of them.. maybe more.. Arrgggh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 -If you go through the archives, you will see how dangerouse it has been for some people to bring anything at all(sometimes even their hair) with them to a clean enviroment- you have read the drill before- put everything in storage that you want to save- live clean and detox for as long as it takes- then revisit your belongings and see how they affect you- to bring things with you will only make a very difficult move for you a useless one. Untill you are clean you will not be able to tell how contaminated your items are. -- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@g...> wrote: > > What are people's experiences with using ionizers or UV lights or the > sun (or any/all three) to docontaminate things? Of course, matresses > and any 'heavy' clothes, dusty, undustable, porous items must go.. but > other things? I am thinking about moving (hear that everybody?) and > wondering how I could do it logictically.. > > I am especially interested in books.. I have lots of newish, > expensive, (often technical) books that I bought as I felt my 'ability > to absorb new information' slipping. I still have not gotten to absorb > that new information yet, and I would hate to throw it away before I > had the chance to.. (losing LOTS of money in the process..) > > Any ideas? Most of the books are not that old, matte paper, they are > semi-glossy paper which seems much less porous.. > > The magazines (more porous) - at least the non-collectible ones, can > go, although I think I am going to try to build some kind of document > management system to store scans of articles that I think I'll need in > the future.. > > My apartment has maybe ten huge bookcases, floor to ceiling, filled > with books.. get the picture? I probably want to keep at least half of > them.. maybe more.. > > Arrgggh.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 UV and the sun did not work at all for me, neither did dry cleaning , scrubbing with clorox, or other redily available products- search archives for the vulpex soap that with de-natured alchohol did work for metal and some other things, and soaking dark clothes w/ water > > What are people's experiences with using ionizers or UV lights or the > sun (or any/all three) to docontaminate things? Of course, matresses > and any 'heavy' clothes, dusty, undustable, porous items must go.. but > other things? I am thinking about moving (hear that everybody?) and > wondering how I could do it logictically.. > > I am especially interested in books.. I have lots of newish, > expensive, (often technical) books that I bought as I felt my 'ability > to absorb new information' slipping. I still have not gotten to absorb > that new information yet, and I would hate to throw it away before I > had the chance to.. (losing LOTS of money in the process..) > > Any ideas? Most of the books are not that old, matte paper, they are > semi-glossy paper which seems much less porous.. > > The magazines (more porous) - at least the non-collectible ones, can > go, although I think I am going to try to build some kind of document > management system to store scans of articles that I think I'll need in > the future.. > > My apartment has maybe ten huge bookcases, floor to ceiling, filled > with books.. get the picture? I probably want to keep at least half of > them.. maybe more.. > > Arrgggh.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 how about: Airing them out then putting page protectors on them? Or using a lamination system and just literally laminating everything. Granted expensive, but, it would mitigate the release of the mold/spores/toxins etc while still allowing accessibility for research? what about checking on Amazon to see if any of the books come as downloads, cds etc? On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, LiveSimply wrote: > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:16:03 -0800 > From: LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> > Reply- > > Subject: Re: [] Re: Helpful hints, please > > What are people's experiences with using ionizers or UV lights or the > sun (or any/all three) to docontaminate things? Of course, matresses > and any 'heavy' clothes, dusty, undustable, porous items must go.. but > other things? I am thinking about moving (hear that everybody?) and > wondering how I could do it logictically.. > > I am especially interested in books.. I have lots of newish, > expensive, (often technical) books that I bought as I felt my 'ability > to absorb new information' slipping. I still have not gotten to absorb > that new information yet, and I would hate to throw it away before I > had the chance to.. (losing LOTS of money in the process..) > > Any ideas? Most of the books are not that old, matte paper, they are > semi-glossy paper which seems much less porous.. > > The magazines (more porous) - at least the non-collectible ones, can > go, although I think I am going to try to build some kind of document > management system to store scans of articles that I think I'll need in > the future.. > > My apartment has maybe ten huge bookcases, floor to ceiling, filled > with books.. get the picture? I probably want to keep at least half of > them.. maybe more.. > > Arrgggh.... > > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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