Am I doing this wrong?

May 7, 2003

(Trying this again, first one didn't post)

Hi everyone,

I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday because

I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it, enjoyed it and

thought

I made a really good choice. My carbs and proteins were balanced and

everything

was just about perfect yesterday. But when I read that y'all eat about

1/2 of

a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble enough

feeling full

after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted chicken (the turkey I'm

starving right

after).

Then this morning I've been entering my meals into fitday because I

figured I'd

end up screwing up the portions...I feel like such an idiot, but this is

hard for me.

I'm not a big meat fan. I like chicken and tuna, but not every day. I

hate egg

whites, they make me gag, but I don't mind egg beaters. So I at least

have that.

(red meat and ham are out of the question. yuck)

I was afraid to even send this out, because I don't want anyone to think

I'm whining

or being a loser, I'm just having a really hard time. I am just dying

for free day and then

Dan says to me, " Free day isn't supposed to be a total pig fest. Don't

just eat for the

sake of eating, you are supposed to eat what you craved in moderation. "

I just wanted

to cry right there. I know he didn't mean to hurt my feelings but that

really sucked.

So now I feel like this huge oinker, and a failure.

I just feel like an idiot for wanting to quit on Day 3 of my first

challenge...how pathetic

is that? I've already had about 35% fat for my day. I'm sucking at

this so bad...

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

I already entered my next meal but I haven't eaten it yet. But the

stats are there so far.

I started fitday a long time ago and stopped. But I restarted with this

program because

I'm just not a good guesser and figured my carbs would end up being

higher. I feel like

I have to eat stuff I don't feel like eating to get the right

proteins/carbs ratio. Am I just

being too anal? I'm afraid to eat anything that isn't on the " list " in

the book.

Tink

May 7, 2003

Tink,

Hang in there! I'm sorry if I mislead you on the subway info.

yesterday. But it was just one day. You can do this! There are

many recipes on the body for life website that include chicken and

tuna. Try some of those.

Also, free day is a free for all. When I did my first challenge,

I pigged out on every free day and had great progress (my pics are

under tiffiny's challenges). Also, Bill phillips eats a dozen

donuts on his free day. It's okay. Eat what you want and however

much you want.

You will get the hang of the portion thing. It's difficult at

first, but gets better with time. Your carbs and proteins don't

have to be exact to the very gram...just approximate. Please don't

quit! Even if you slip up every once in a while....you are still

eating better than you were before you started the program.

You are not a whining loser! You are awesome for taking the

initiative to change your lifestyle and become healthy! Even

awesome people need support and need to vent once in awhile. It's

okay, this group is here to inspire, encourage, and support

eachother.

Hang in there, it DOES get better! Just wait till you start

seeing progress....you will love this program:)!

-Tiffiny

> (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

because

> I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it, enjoyed it

and

> thought

> I made a really good choice. My carbs and proteins were balanced

and

> everything

> was just about perfect yesterday. But when I read that y'all eat

about

> 1/2 of

> a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

enough

> feeling full

> after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted chicken (the turkey I'm

> starving right

> after).

> Then this morning I've been entering my meals into fitday because

I

> figured I'd

> end up screwing up the portions...I feel like such an idiot, but

this is

> hard for me.

> I'm not a big meat fan. I like chicken and tuna, but not every

day. I

> hate egg

> whites, they make me gag, but I don't mind egg beaters. So I at

least

> have that.

> (red meat and ham are out of the question. yuck)

>

> I was afraid to even send this out, because I don't want anyone to

think

> I'm whining

> or being a loser, I'm just having a really hard time. I am just

dying

> for free day and then

> Dan says to me, " Free day isn't supposed to be a total pig fest.

Don't

> just eat for the

> sake of eating, you are supposed to eat what you craved in

moderation. "

> I just wanted

> to cry right there. I know he didn't mean to hurt my feelings but

that

> really sucked.

> So now I feel like this huge oinker, and a failure.

>

> I just feel like an idiot for wanting to quit on Day 3 of my first

> challenge...how pathetic

> is that? I've already had about 35% fat for my day. I'm

sucking at

> this so bad...

>

> http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

>

> I already entered my next meal but I haven't eaten it yet. But

the

> stats are there so far.

> I started fitday a long time ago and stopped. But I restarted

with this

> program because

> I'm just not a good guesser and figured my carbs would end up

being

> higher. I feel like

> I have to eat stuff I don't feel like eating to get the right

> proteins/carbs ratio. Am I just

> being too anal? I'm afraid to eat anything that isn't on

the " list " in

> the book.

>

> Tink

>

May 7, 2003

First of all there is no need to feel like an idiot/oiker/failure.

Being healthy is a challenge -- if it were easy everyone would be fit.

Looking up the NI from subway, a 12 inch roasted chicken sub has

640 Cals

10g fat

94g carbs

46g protein

It depends on your starting size whether or not this is too much for

you. Generally (again, it could be different for you) women (who are

trying to lose fat and gain muscle) need about 20-25g of carbs and

proteins each per meal. So with the 12 inch, you're looking at about

2 servings of protein and 3-4 servings of carbs. You need to figure

out if this was too much for you. In the long run this one thing

won't hurt you and it was certainly a better choice than a Big Mac

with Fries and a soda. So don't worry about it.

But think about the fist/palm method. Was a 12 inch sub really the

size of your fist/palm. Probably not. Hence, not BFL. Remember the

guidelines and it's easy.

As far as protein goes, what about seafood? Shrimp, salmon,

lobster? Those are all great protein options. Pork tenderloin is a

great protein as well.

Free day -- people have differing opinions on free day. The fact

remains that in order to lose weight, you must have a caloric

deficit. The more you eat on free day, the smaller your weekly

deficit. The better you are on free day, the larger your deficit,

the faster your fat will come off. You decide how " good " you can be

on free day.

If you'd like, post your stats (height, weight, BF%) and a days menu

and you can get some feedback on how you're doing and what needs to

be changed, if anything.

Hang in there. You can do it!

-

> (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

because

> I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it, enjoyed it

and

> thought

> I made a really good choice. My carbs and proteins were balanced

and

> everything

> was just about perfect yesterday. But when I read that y'all eat

about

> 1/2 of

> a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

enough

> feeling full

> after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted chicken (the turkey I'm

> starving right

> after).

> Then this morning I've been entering my meals into fitday because I

> figured I'd

> end up screwing up the portions...I feel like such an idiot, but

this is

> hard for me.

> I'm not a big meat fan. I like chicken and tuna, but not every

day. I

> hate egg

> whites, they make me gag, but I don't mind egg beaters. So I at

least

> have that.

> (red meat and ham are out of the question. yuck)

>

> I was afraid to even send this out, because I don't want anyone to

think

> I'm whining

> or being a loser, I'm just having a really hard time. I am just

dying

> for free day and then

> Dan says to me, " Free day isn't supposed to be a total pig fest.

Don't

> just eat for the

> sake of eating, you are supposed to eat what you craved in

moderation. "

> I just wanted

> to cry right there. I know he didn't mean to hurt my feelings but

that

> really sucked.

> So now I feel like this huge oinker, and a failure.

>

> I just feel like an idiot for wanting to quit on Day 3 of my first

> challenge...how pathetic

> is that? I've already had about 35% fat for my day. I'm

sucking at

> this so bad...

>

> http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

>

> I already entered my next meal but I haven't eaten it yet. But the

> stats are there so far.

> I started fitday a long time ago and stopped. But I restarted with

this

> program because

> I'm just not a good guesser and figured my carbs would end up being

> higher. I feel like

> I have to eat stuff I don't feel like eating to get the right

> proteins/carbs ratio. Am I just

> being too anal? I'm afraid to eat anything that isn't on

the " list " in

> the book.

>

> Tink

>

May 7, 2003

> (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

because I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it,

enjoyed it and thought I made a really good choice. My carbs and

proteins were balanced and everything was just about perfect

yesterday. But when I read that y'all eat about 1/2 of

> a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

enough feeling full after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted

chicken (the turkey I'm starving right after).

>

Hey, I'm starving too right after a 6 " turkey. First off, I don't

think there is enough protein, unless you get double or triple meat

and secondly the carb choice isn't that great so don't feel so bad!!

But it is a decent alternative if you find yourself in that

situation.

And give yourself credit, for trying and putting forth the effort. I

don't think it was " easy " for any of us right at first. But once you

get the hang of it, it is very easy. I don't care for much protein

either but I've learned to like it. I do also eat extra lean ground

beef and lean steaks as well as lean pork. What I do limit are my

breads and pastas. For carbs, try eating heavier or denser carbs

like oatmeal, cream of rice/wheat, brown rice, potatos, lentils,

beans, etc. It will fill you up longer. And make sure you are

getting your veggies in. If you still feel hungry add more veggies.

I couldn't get to the link you posted for fitday; it takes me to the

main page. If you scroll down to the bottom of your " home page " it

will show you the actual link to post for others to see it. If you

want you can take a look at my link. So far I've only posted 2 days

(5/5 and 5/6) and then posts from July-September 2002.

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=Colleenp99

Also try not to stress about calories and grams. BFL is made to be

much easier. Fist size for carbs, palm size portion for protein. I

mainly use fitday to keep myself accountable and it helps me keep

from cheating.

Hope this helps some. And for the free day..hell it's YOUR free day!

Eat whatever you want!

Colleen

May 7, 2003

--- Tink, it DOES get easier. In the first challenge, I was HUNGRY

a lot of the time. And I still craved sweets, butthen it got

easier. My cravings lessened, and now I'm not usually hungry for 3

hours! HANG IN THERE!In ,

tiffinyshantelle <no_reply@y...> wrote:

>

> Tink,

> Hang in there! I'm sorry if I mislead you on the subway info.

> yesterday. But it was just one day. You can do this! There are

> many recipes on the body for life website that include chicken and

> tuna. Try some of those.

> Also, free day is a free for all. When I did my first

challenge,

> I pigged out on every free day and had great progress (my pics are

> under tiffiny's challenges). Also, Bill phillips eats a dozen

> donuts on his free day. It's okay. Eat what you want and however

> much you want.

> You will get the hang of the portion thing. It's difficult at

> first, but gets better with time. Your carbs and proteins don't

> have to be exact to the very gram...just approximate. Please

don't

> quit! Even if you slip up every once in a while....you are still

> eating better than you were before you started the program.

> You are not a whining loser! You are awesome for taking the

> initiative to change your lifestyle and become healthy! Even

> awesome people need support and need to vent once in awhile. It's

> okay, this group is here to inspire, encourage, and support

> eachother.

> Hang in there, it DOES get better! Just wait till you start

> seeing progress....you will love this program:)!

> -Tiffiny

>

> > (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

> because

> > I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it, enjoyed

it

> and

> > thought

> > I made a really good choice. My carbs and proteins were

balanced

> and

> > everything

> > was just about perfect yesterday. But when I read that y'all

eat

> about

> > 1/2 of

> > a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

> enough

> > feeling full

> > after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted chicken (the turkey

I'm

> > starving right

> > after).

> > Then this morning I've been entering my meals into fitday

because

> I

> > figured I'd

> > end up screwing up the portions...I feel like such an idiot, but

> this is

> > hard for me.

> > I'm not a big meat fan. I like chicken and tuna, but not every

> day. I

> > hate egg

> > whites, they make me gag, but I don't mind egg beaters. So I at

> least

> > have that.

> > (red meat and ham are out of the question. yuck)

> >

> > I was afraid to even send this out, because I don't want anyone

to

> think

> > I'm whining

> > or being a loser, I'm just having a really hard time. I am just

> dying

> > for free day and then

> > Dan says to me, " Free day isn't supposed to be a total pig

fest.

> Don't

> > just eat for the

> > sake of eating, you are supposed to eat what you craved in

> moderation. "

> > I just wanted

> > to cry right there. I know he didn't mean to hurt my feelings

but

> that

> > really sucked.

> > So now I feel like this huge oinker, and a failure.

> >

> > I just feel like an idiot for wanting to quit on Day 3 of my

first

> > challenge...how pathetic

> > is that? I've already had about 35% fat for my day. I'm

> sucking at

> > this so bad...

> >

> > http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

> >

> > I already entered my next meal but I haven't eaten it yet. But

> the

> > stats are there so far.

> > I started fitday a long time ago and stopped. But I restarted

> with this

> > program because

> > I'm just not a good guesser and figured my carbs would end up

> being

> > higher. I feel like

> > I have to eat stuff I don't feel like eating to get the right

> > proteins/carbs ratio. Am I just

> > being too anal? I'm afraid to eat anything that isn't on

> the " list " in

> > the book.

> >

> > Tink

> >

May 7, 2003

--- Tink, it DOES get easier. In the first challenge, I was HUNGRY

a lot of the time. And I still craved sweets, butthen it got

easier. My cravings lessened, and now I'm not usually hungry for 3

hours! HANG IN THERE!In ,

tiffinyshantelle <no_reply@y...> wrote:

>

> Tink,

> Hang in there! I'm sorry if I mislead you on the subway info.

> yesterday. But it was just one day. You can do this! There are

> many recipes on the body for life website that include chicken and

> tuna. Try some of those.

> Also, free day is a free for all. When I did my first

challenge,

> I pigged out on every free day and had great progress (my pics are

> under tiffiny's challenges). Also, Bill phillips eats a dozen

> donuts on his free day. It's okay. Eat what you want and however

> much you want.

> You will get the hang of the portion thing. It's difficult at

> first, but gets better with time. Your carbs and proteins don't

> have to be exact to the very gram...just approximate. Please

don't

> quit! Even if you slip up every once in a while....you are still

> eating better than you were before you started the program.

> You are not a whining loser! You are awesome for taking the

> initiative to change your lifestyle and become healthy! Even

> awesome people need support and need to vent once in awhile. It's

> okay, this group is here to inspire, encourage, and support

> eachother.

> Hang in there, it DOES get better! Just wait till you start

> seeing progress....you will love this program:)!

> -Tiffiny

>

> > (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

> because

> > I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it, enjoyed

it

> and

> > thought

> > I made a really good choice. My carbs and proteins were

balanced

> and

> > everything

> > was just about perfect yesterday. But when I read that y'all

eat

> about

> > 1/2 of

> > a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

> enough

> > feeling full

> > after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted chicken (the turkey

I'm

> > starving right

> > after).

> > Then this morning I've been entering my meals into fitday

because

> I

> > figured I'd

> > end up screwing up the portions...I feel like such an idiot, but

> this is

> > hard for me.

> > I'm not a big meat fan. I like chicken and tuna, but not every

> day. I

> > hate egg

> > whites, they make me gag, but I don't mind egg beaters. So I at

> least

> > have that.

> > (red meat and ham are out of the question. yuck)

> >

> > I was afraid to even send this out, because I don't want anyone

to

> think

> > I'm whining

> > or being a loser, I'm just having a really hard time. I am just

> dying

> > for free day and then

> > Dan says to me, " Free day isn't supposed to be a total pig

fest.

> Don't

> > just eat for the

> > sake of eating, you are supposed to eat what you craved in

> moderation. "

> > I just wanted

> > to cry right there. I know he didn't mean to hurt my feelings

but

> that

> > really sucked.

> > So now I feel like this huge oinker, and a failure.

> >

> > I just feel like an idiot for wanting to quit on Day 3 of my

first

> > challenge...how pathetic

> > is that? I've already had about 35% fat for my day. I'm

> sucking at

> > this so bad...

> >

> > http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

> >

> > I already entered my next meal but I haven't eaten it yet. But

> the

> > stats are there so far.

> > I started fitday a long time ago and stopped. But I restarted

> with this

> > program because

> > I'm just not a good guesser and figured my carbs would end up

> being

> > higher. I feel like

> > I have to eat stuff I don't feel like eating to get the right

> > proteins/carbs ratio. Am I just

> > being too anal? I'm afraid to eat anything that isn't on

> the " list " in

> > the book.

> >

> > Tink

> >

May 7, 2003

It will take longer than 3 days to get used to this. It's rough for

the first week or so. You are used to so much food and sooo many

more carbs than you are getting now. Think of it as " drying out "

from the carb overload. Once this happens the feelings of hunger

won't be so acute I promise.

If you don't like meat, supplement with protein shakes. Some of them

taste good and you almost feel like you're cheating. Those and

protein bars too. The protein is necessary for muscle building so

that you'll have a higher metabolism and lose fat easier no matter

what the source of the protein.

For the first few days/weeks till you get the hang of it take it on

a minute by minute basis and don't pick up food that is not

authorized until free day. The hands of the clock will feel like

they're stuck down with chewing gum but time will pass and you will

look back and be glad you didn't pick up the unauthorized food. Hope

this helps. You can do this.

Stasia

May 7, 2003

Hi and ,

Thank you both for your reponses. Tiff - you look great! do you

have pictures too?

After I entered my info into Fitday yesterday, I had everything balanced,

even with my crazy sub excursion. ANd it's no ones fault but my own. I

seem to forget the fist/palm rule and get all freaked about it all

looking pretty

on the graph. LOL

Here is the link...sorry about that!

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=tinkerbelltwinkle

I weigh about 157 lbs

I'm 5-5'1 in height

And the body fat reading I got online was 27.3%

I will have to get what the gym stats were, because they did a body fat test

and I haven't gotten the results yet.

Tink

Blamy wrote:

> First of all there is no need to feel like an idiot/oiker/failure.

> Being healthy is a challenge -- if it were easy everyone would be fit.

>

> Looking up the NI from subway, a 12 inch roasted chicken sub has

> 640 Cals

> 10g fat

> 94g carbs

> 46g protein

>

> It depends on your starting size whether or not this is too much for

> you. Generally (again, it could be different for you) women (who are

> trying to lose fat and gain muscle) need about 20-25g of carbs and

> proteins each per meal. So with the 12 inch, you're looking at about

> 2 servings of protein and 3-4 servings of carbs. You need to figure

> out if this was too much for you. In the long run this one thing

> won't hurt you and it was certainly a better choice than a Big Mac

> with Fries and a soda. So don't worry about it.

>

> But think about the fist/palm method. Was a 12 inch sub really the

> size of your fist/palm. Probably not. Hence, not BFL. Remember the

> guidelines and it's easy.

>

> As far as protein goes, what about seafood? Shrimp, salmon,

> lobster? Those are all great protein options. Pork tenderloin is a

> great protein as well.

>

> Free day -- people have differing opinions on free day. The fact

> remains that in order to lose weight, you must have a caloric

> deficit. The more you eat on free day, the smaller your weekly

> deficit. The better you are on free day, the larger your deficit,

> the faster your fat will come off. You decide how " good " you can be

> on free day.

>

> If you'd like, post your stats (height, weight, BF%) and a days menu

> and you can get some feedback on how you're doing and what needs to

> be changed, if anything.

>

> Hang in there. You can do it!

>

> -

>

> > (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

> because

> > I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it, enjoyed it

> and

> > thought

> > I made a really good choice. My carbs and proteins were balanced

> and

> > everything

> > was just about perfect yesterday. But when I read that y'all eat

> about

> > 1/2 of

> > a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

> enough

> > feeling full

> > after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted chicken (the turkey I'm

> > starving right

> > after).

> > Then this morning I've been entering my meals into fitday because I

> > figured I'd

> > end up screwing up the portions...I feel like such an idiot, but

> this is

> > hard for me.

> > I'm not a big meat fan. I like chicken and tuna, but not every

> day. I

> > hate egg

> > whites, they make me gag, but I don't mind egg beaters. So I at

> least

> > have that.

> > (red meat and ham are out of the question. yuck)

> >

> > I was afraid to even send this out, because I don't want anyone to

> think

> > I'm whining

> > or being a loser, I'm just having a really hard time. I am just

> dying

> > for free day and then

> > Dan says to me, " Free day isn't supposed to be a total pig fest.

> Don't

> > just eat for the

> > sake of eating, you are supposed to eat what you craved in

> moderation. "

> > I just wanted

> > to cry right there. I know he didn't mean to hurt my feelings but

> that

> > really sucked.

> > So now I feel like this huge oinker, and a failure.

> >

> > I just feel like an idiot for wanting to quit on Day 3 of my first

> > challenge...how pathetic

> > is that? I've already had about 35% fat for my day. I'm

> sucking at

> > this so bad...

> >

> > http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

> >

> > I already entered my next meal but I haven't eaten it yet. But the

> > stats are there so far.

> > I started fitday a long time ago and stopped. But I restarted with

> this

> > program because

> > I'm just not a good guesser and figured my carbs would end up being

> > higher. I feel like

> > I have to eat stuff I don't feel like eating to get the right

> > proteins/carbs ratio. Am I just

> > being too anal? I'm afraid to eat anything that isn't on

> the " list " in

> > the book.

> >

> > Tink

> >

May 7, 2003

Hi and ,

Thank you both for your reponses. Tiff - you look great! do you

have pictures too?

After I entered my info into Fitday yesterday, I had everything balanced,

even with my crazy sub excursion. ANd it's no ones fault but my own. I

seem to forget the fist/palm rule and get all freaked about it all

looking pretty

on the graph. LOL

Here is the link...sorry about that!

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=tinkerbelltwinkle

I weigh about 157 lbs

I'm 5-5'1 in height

And the body fat reading I got online was 27.3%

I will have to get what the gym stats were, because they did a body fat test

and I haven't gotten the results yet.

Tink

Blamy wrote:

> First of all there is no need to feel like an idiot/oiker/failure.

> Being healthy is a challenge -- if it were easy everyone would be fit.

>

> Looking up the NI from subway, a 12 inch roasted chicken sub has

> 640 Cals

> 10g fat

> 94g carbs

> 46g protein

>

> It depends on your starting size whether or not this is too much for

> you. Generally (again, it could be different for you) women (who are

> trying to lose fat and gain muscle) need about 20-25g of carbs and

> proteins each per meal. So with the 12 inch, you're looking at about

> 2 servings of protein and 3-4 servings of carbs. You need to figure

> out if this was too much for you. In the long run this one thing

> won't hurt you and it was certainly a better choice than a Big Mac

> with Fries and a soda. So don't worry about it.

>

> But think about the fist/palm method. Was a 12 inch sub really the

> size of your fist/palm. Probably not. Hence, not BFL. Remember the

> guidelines and it's easy.

>

> As far as protein goes, what about seafood? Shrimp, salmon,

> lobster? Those are all great protein options. Pork tenderloin is a

> great protein as well.

>

> Free day -- people have differing opinions on free day. The fact

> remains that in order to lose weight, you must have a caloric

> deficit. The more you eat on free day, the smaller your weekly

> deficit. The better you are on free day, the larger your deficit,

> the faster your fat will come off. You decide how " good " you can be

> on free day.

>

> If you'd like, post your stats (height, weight, BF%) and a days menu

> and you can get some feedback on how you're doing and what needs to

> be changed, if anything.

>

> Hang in there. You can do it!

>

> -

>

> > (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

> because

> > I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it, enjoyed it

> and

> > thought

> > I made a really good choice. My carbs and proteins were balanced

> and

> > everything

> > was just about perfect yesterday. But when I read that y'all eat

> about

> > 1/2 of

> > a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

> enough

> > feeling full

> > after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted chicken (the turkey I'm

> > starving right

> > after).

> > Then this morning I've been entering my meals into fitday because I

> > figured I'd

> > end up screwing up the portions...I feel like such an idiot, but

> this is

> > hard for me.

> > I'm not a big meat fan. I like chicken and tuna, but not every

> day. I

> > hate egg

> > whites, they make me gag, but I don't mind egg beaters. So I at

> least

> > have that.

> > (red meat and ham are out of the question. yuck)

> >

> > I was afraid to even send this out, because I don't want anyone to

> think

> > I'm whining

> > or being a loser, I'm just having a really hard time. I am just

> dying

> > for free day and then

> > Dan says to me, " Free day isn't supposed to be a total pig fest.

> Don't

> > just eat for the

> > sake of eating, you are supposed to eat what you craved in

> moderation. "

> > I just wanted

> > to cry right there. I know he didn't mean to hurt my feelings but

> that

> > really sucked.

> > So now I feel like this huge oinker, and a failure.

> >

> > I just feel like an idiot for wanting to quit on Day 3 of my first

> > challenge...how pathetic

> > is that? I've already had about 35% fat for my day. I'm

> sucking at

> > this so bad...

> >

> > http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/DayFoodsTab.asp

> >

> > I already entered my next meal but I haven't eaten it yet. But the

> > stats are there so far.

> > I started fitday a long time ago and stopped. But I restarted with

> this

> > program because

> > I'm just not a good guesser and figured my carbs would end up being

> > higher. I feel like

> > I have to eat stuff I don't feel like eating to get the right

> > proteins/carbs ratio. Am I just

> > being too anal? I'm afraid to eat anything that isn't on

> the " list " in

> > the book.

> >

> > Tink

> >

May 7, 2003

Thank you Stasia! I really like the chocolate Myoplex shakes,

and the Detour bars are sooo yummy. Once I eat one of those

it pretty much curbs my chocolate cravings. I feel much better

now. I'm so used to watching everything that goes into my mouth,

but not necessarily the protein/carb evening out...that I forget I've

started doing that now! lol

I feel like I'm " drying out " lol really! I use to have a little chocolate

EVERY day. hee hee. So those shakes and the detour bars will

come in handy.

Have you tried the shakes with water? Do they taste yucky? I

thought maybe htat would help make them " thinner "

Tink

P.S. Holy crap your pics are awesome!!! You look amazing!

S Bachrach wrote:

> It will take longer than 3 days to get used to this. It's rough for

> the first week or so. You are used to so much food and sooo many

> more carbs than you are getting now. Think of it as " drying out "

> from the carb overload. Once this happens the feelings of hunger

> won't be so acute I promise.

>

> If you don't like meat, supplement with protein shakes. Some of them

> taste good and you almost feel like you're cheating. Those and

> protein bars too. The protein is necessary for muscle building so

> that you'll have a higher metabolism and lose fat easier no matter

> what the source of the protein.

>

> For the first few days/weeks till you get the hang of it take it on

> a minute by minute basis and don't pick up food that is not

> authorized until free day. The hands of the clock will feel like

> they're stuck down with chewing gum but time will pass and you will

> look back and be glad you didn't pick up the unauthorized food. Hope

> this helps. You can do this.

>

> Stasia

>

May 7, 2003

Tink,

First off, you are doing great to be willing to do this program!!!

If you aren't doing it exactly like everyone else that is ok to. It

seems to take a little more food to fill me up too, but my jeans are

feeling looser and my inches are going down and my weight, so it

can't be all bad. And for the record I use my freeday to JUNK

out!! Hubby told me to only eat what I craved yada yada, but I use

it to feel like I had a total pig out day. I used to eat alot of

junk so I really enjoy my one day a week to feel that dream..LOL

Remember that you are doing this for yourself!!! Not anyone else.

You are the one living in your body...make the choices that best

suit you!! I hope this helps. These posts go so quickly on this

board I can barely keep up with what is going on

~Brittany

May 7, 2003

> > (Trying this again, first one didn't post)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I think I'm doing this wrong. I had such a hard time yesterday

> because I went out for subway and I ordered a 12 inch, ate it,

> enjoyed it and thought I made a really good choice. My carbs and

> proteins were balanced and everything was just about perfect

> yesterday. But when I read that y'all eat about 1/2 of

> > a 6 inch I felt terrible. I could not do that....I have trouble

> enough feeling full after a 6 inch alone and I get the roasted

> chicken (the turkey I'm starving right after).

> >

>

> Hey, I'm starving too right after a 6 " turkey. First off, I don't

> think there is enough protein, unless you get double or triple meat

> and secondly the carb choice isn't that great so don't feel so

bad!!

(snip)

This is what I do... (just to point out..not to advocate..) Free day

is my cheese burger/fries day..my fav foods of all time (used to have

them for lunch about 5 days a week..ha ha). Anyway...even on freeday,

what I do is we pick a place to go (differentevery week) for their

burgers...I canot eat a whole one at one sitting anymore withou

stuffing myself. So I eat half...and then about three hours later I

will eat the other half. It is sort of making it into two meals

although nt exactly...I figure I am just as happy and if I can devide

my meal in two then I h ave more time to burn the calories off...EVEN

if it is freeday. I seem to end up with several small meals on

freeday even if it is not planned. It works for me...

Pat

> But it is a decent alternative if you find yourself in that

> situation.

>

> And give yourself credit, for trying and putting forth the effort.

I

> don't think it was " easy " for any of us right at first. But once

you

> get the hang of it, it is very easy. I don't care for much protein

> either but I've learned to like it. I do also eat extra lean

ground

> beef and lean steaks as well as lean pork. What I do limit are my

> breads and pastas. For carbs, try eating heavier or denser carbs

> like oatmeal, cream of rice/wheat, brown rice, potatos, lentils,

> beans, etc. It will fill you up longer. And make sure you are

> getting your veggies in. If you still feel hungry add more veggies.

>

> I couldn't get to the link you posted for fitday; it takes me to

the

> main page. If you scroll down to the bottom of your " home page " it

> will show you the actual link to post for others to see it. If you

> want you can take a look at my link. So far I've only posted 2 days

> (5/5 and 5/6) and then posts from July-September 2002.

>

> http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=Colleenp99

>

> Also try not to stress about calories and grams. BFL is made to be

> much easier. Fist size for carbs, palm size portion for protein. I

> mainly use fitday to keep myself accountable and it helps me keep

> from cheating.

>

> Hope this helps some. And for the free day..hell it's YOUR free

day!

> Eat whatever you want!

>

> Colleen

May 7, 2003

Hey Crystal, glad to help. I want everyone to succeed. The shakes

are fine with water. I use the Myoplex lite. If your fridge has a

crushed ice dispenser(or even if it doesn't) fill about a third of

the container with crushed ice, then the water and blend it all up.

The ice makes it really thick and not so watery. The Myoplexes

aren't all that watery anyway. Most people complain that they

are " too thick. "

Stasia

May 7, 2003

Stasia, I will have to try it that way. The first one I made was really

good, the second one was so thick I couldn't finish...LOL But it was

also the last meal of the day so that might have something to do with

it too.

Mmm, maybe I'll make that tonite after my shrimp and brown rice/veggy

stir fry! (for my last meal I mean, not with the stir fry.)

Tink

S Bachrach wrote:

> Hey Crystal, glad to help. I want everyone to succeed. The shakes

> are fine with water. I use the Myoplex lite. If your fridge has a

> crushed ice dispenser(or even if it doesn't) fill about a third of

> the container with crushed ice, then the water and blend it all up.

> The ice makes it really thick and not so watery. The Myoplexes

> aren't all that watery anyway. Most people complain that they

> are " too thick. "

>

> Stasia

>

May 7, 2003

Hi .

What is it that you do that's not excatly on the list? I'm about to

start my first challenge and I'm a bit curious.

Zoe

p.s. great quotes. thanks for posting them.

> Hey Tink,

>

> First of all, don't get discouraged. I'm only on week

> 4 of my first challenge, so I don't have this down

> exactly right, but I just thought I'd share some tips

> with you that have helped me thus far. First of all,

> it got much easier for me to get used to the eating

> thing after the first week. Also, I've read several

> places that it takes 21 days for a habit to form,

> don't know if it's true or not....but as I passed this

> mark just recently I've noticed it's so much easier to

> eat 6 meals, and it seems perfectly normal. I'm never

> hungry, it's just about eating enough when you do

> eat...not too much, but the right things also. I do

> some stuff that isn't " on the list " exactly, but they

> seem like good decisions and decisions that make it

> easier for me to stick with the program. It's strange

> because I'm almost to the point now where I don't

> remember how my eating habits were before, which is

> ABSOLUTELY crazy for me, because I love food way too

> much! I also am pretty out of control on free days,

> mostly because that's what's keeping me on track so

> far. I'm hoping to get to the point where it's not

> that bad on free days, but right now that is one more

> thing I have to allow myself in order for me to stick

> with this program. I also am a huge quote lover, and

> have lots of quotes everywhere I turn...in my car, in

> my planner, by my computer, on the mirror, and of

> course...on the refrigerator! Here are some of my

> favorites:

<snip>

May 7, 2003

Stasia: If you don't like meat, supplement with protein shakes. Some

of them taste good and you almost feel like you're cheating.

************************************

Stasia always has such great advice. The shakes taste almost like

mcdonald's shakes if you stick them in a blender with ice.

Here's how I do it to get that Mc's texture.

I put the right amount of water into the blender, then add 4-6 ice

cubes, and occasionally 3to 4 frozen strawberries, or a small amount

of other frozen fruit.

Then I blend like crazy until all the ice is finely blended into the

water. THEN I add the shake mix. Blending the water and ice first

prevents the shake from getting all foamy.

The shake then has those little ice crystals, JUST like mcdonalds.

And if you add a teensy bit of frozen fruit, they're practically

decadent.

And I don't know anyone who isn't stuffed after drinking one of

those, even my big ole boyfriend.

Hang in there, you're doing fine, the first week is always the worst.

May 7, 2003

Thanks for sharing this! I didn't think I could have anything other then

my meals. I'm doing much better now...I feel more full. I have no prob

with water. I don't really like juices that much. So one good thing

I love broccoli and cauliflower/carrots. Everything but brussels and

lima beans. hee hee

I'm glad that I know now I can have a bowl of steamed broccoli or afree

veggy if I feel the hunger.

Thanks! Tink

canvasshoes2 wrote:

> Everyone else has given you excellent advice re: portion sizes, not

> feeling too bad about one little slip up etc.

>

> I just wanted to add my teensy 2 cents worth on your comment

> of " starving all the time " .

>

> My appetite went from not being able to finish all 6 meals, to

> sometimes barely being able to wait between meals.

>

> I added small portions of carrots in between meals, and made sure I

> had plenty of water.

>

> Also (this will probably gross everyone out), but I love brussel

> sprouts and broccoli, so I would have a big " snack " of steamed

> brussels or broccoli when I got really hungry.

>

> If there are any " greens " that you like, you can add those in between

> meals, it's not as yummy as a meal, but it helps during those times

> of the " hungries " .

>

May 8, 2003

Tink,

You're making this harder than it has to be. :-) You don't have to use Fitday or

struggle to count and balance everything perfectly. The palm/fist thing really

does work. It was meant to be easy. Sometimes carbs will be a little high,

sometimes protein or fat will be a little high. It all balances out though.

Your Subway choice wasn't bad. It was just a little too big a portion. If you

get into a situation where you're unsure of calories, always fall back on the

palm/fist thing. Palm of meat, fist of carbs. You'll never go too far wrong.

I'm trying to upload Bill's " Fast Food for Fitness " article to the files

section. The files section has been acting up lately, but check it out when you

can.

As far as free day goes, here is my last one:

a bowl of Wheaties with All-Bran and raisins

1 piece whole wheat toast with peanut butter

handful of Nacho cheese Doritos

an entire sleeve of Ritz crackers

1 Hostess Ho-Ho

Quarter Pounder with cheese

medium french fries

Oreo McFlurry

2 Wild Berry Pop Tarts

the head of a chocolate Easter bunny

handful of peanut M & Ms

1 Red Baron pizza pocket

2 Cadbury Eggs

1 oz sharp cheddar

a bowl of pistachio ice cream

It was in the neighborhood of 4,500 calories. I do that pretty frequently and

don't worry about it. It's kind of self-regulating. One week you'll really gross

yourself out. Then you'll have a couple weeks of more moderate free days or free

meals. Then you'll have a pig fest or two. Then you'll have one free meal.

If you're going to be successful for a long time, your methods have to be

flexible. If you severely restrain yourself the whole challenge, you're going to

get to the end of 12 weeks and say, the hell with this. I could never do it for

life. That kind of defeats the purpose!

Here is what Bill has said about free day. It's word for word from a live chat

last December. Yes, he DOES mean eat donuts all day. I saved it because I was so

relieved when I read it. :-)

~~~

Cerminara: Can we discuss the 'free day' and how much we can eat on that

day?

Bill : The free day is a very important part of the BFL Program. That's

the day we rest and reward ourselves for honoring our self-promises during the

week. It is a mistake to not take the free day. This is a mistake that far too

many people are making and in the long run they're paying the price. Trust me,

by week 6, if you don't take the free day, you may very well break and not only

have difficulty staying away from the foods that aren't good for you, but you

might notice your overall interest and focus on BFL starts to diminish. Last

Sunday was my free day. I started the morning with a drive up the 405 freeway to

the nearest Krispy Kreme, which is in the Valley on Van Nuys Blvd. I picked up

my usual - two dozen glazed. One for me in the morning and one for me in the

afternoon. You know, last Sunday, those donuts were so darn good. It was like

eating a sugar cloud - each bite was like some type of gastronomic sensuality. I

hung around the shop for a while, drank a quart of milk, and brought the other