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Hi ,

Hope today is going better for you and your daughter. Sounds like she

was just plain exhausted from everything, and then things can get out

of control quickly. All I can offer is what has worked for us.

My daughter was always so even-tempered, gentle, loving. When

OCD was at its worst, I rarely saw that child. Luckily she never hurt

herself or any of us, but I was afraid of that at times. Whether she

wanted me there or not, I would just lock her in a bear hug and talk

as soothingly as possible (wow, was that hard as she's screaming I

HATE YOU in my face) and ride it out. Because of her " normal "

personality, it didn't last too long, maybe 3 minutes at the most.

Then she'd just be so worn out, and would let me comfort her with

kisses, massages, whatever helped. Her therapist recommended " deep

breath in, deep breath out " , which we'd do together, since I needed

some calming, too! As soon as she calmed down, she'd always say she

didn't mean to be that way, that she loved me (thank goodness).

Oh, and another thing we still do often is have a " re-do " . We don't

dwell on an " episode " , just say it's that OCD bully, and we shake

hands and agree to the re-do, that is, starting all over and

forgetting about it. I always reinforce with her that most of the

time she does such a great job beating that OCD, and it's so hard, so

it's understandable that sometimes she slips up. I never penalized

for it, either (like taking a sticker away).

Don't feel bad if YOU slip up, as well, I've needed many re-do's for

my behaviors, too! She always forgives me (I can get VERY angry at

the OCD bully, too). One night out of frustration I hit her bedroom

door with an open hand so hard (paid for it for a week afterwards,

too). The next morning I apologized, and she looked at me with her

big eyes and said, " well, it's good you didn't hit ME, Mommy! " Geesh,

like I'd ever do that - it sure made me re-evaluate my reactions, though.

(As an aside, I forgot to mention that she's never shown any of these

behaviors at school, only at home, I've never figured out if that's a

good or bad thing!)

Hope you have a relatively stress-free weekend...

nna.

> Ok..we are new to ocd. We are about to months into it. My daughter has

> had a couple of awesome days. But just a few minutes ago she was into

> one of her " things " and I guess the bossing back wasn't working and

> she just goes into this major tantrum fit. She starts running around

> the house screaming I just can't do it kinda going batty. I am

> freaking out she is telling me just to sit down and leave her alone

> and ordering me around and I am doing just what she says.

>

> What do I do when she does it? Should I send her to her room? or let

> her do it?

>

> help

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Hope today is going better for you and your daughter. Sounds like she

was just plain exhausted from everything, and then things can get out

of control quickly. All I can offer is what has worked for us.

My daughter was always so even-tempered, gentle, loving. When

OCD was at its worst, I rarely saw that child. Luckily she never hurt

herself or any of us, but I was afraid of that at times. Whether she

wanted me there or not, I would just lock her in a bear hug and talk

as soothingly as possible (wow, was that hard as she's screaming I

HATE YOU in my face) and ride it out. Because of her " normal "

personality, it didn't last too long, maybe 3 minutes at the most.

Then she'd just be so worn out, and would let me comfort her with

kisses, massages, whatever helped. Her therapist recommended " deep

breath in, deep breath out " , which we'd do together, since I needed

some calming, too! As soon as she calmed down, she'd always say she

didn't mean to be that way, that she loved me (thank goodness).

Oh, and another thing we still do often is have a " re-do " . We don't

dwell on an " episode " , just say it's that OCD bully, and we shake

hands and agree to the re-do, that is, starting all over and

forgetting about it. I always reinforce with her that most of the

time she does such a great job beating that OCD, and it's so hard, so

it's understandable that sometimes she slips up. I never penalized

for it, either (like taking a sticker away).

Don't feel bad if YOU slip up, as well, I've needed many re-do's for

my behaviors, too! She always forgives me (I can get VERY angry at

the OCD bully, too). One night out of frustration I hit her bedroom

door with an open hand so hard (paid for it for a week afterwards,

too). The next morning I apologized, and she looked at me with her

big eyes and said, " well, it's good you didn't hit ME, Mommy! " Geesh,

like I'd ever do that - it sure made me re-evaluate my reactions, though.

(As an aside, I forgot to mention that she's never shown any of these

behaviors at school, only at home, I've never figured out if that's a

good or bad thing!)

Hope you have a relatively stress-free weekend...

nna.

> Ok..we are new to ocd. We are about to months into it. My daughter has

> had a couple of awesome days. But just a few minutes ago she was into

> one of her " things " and I guess the bossing back wasn't working and

> she just goes into this major tantrum fit. She starts running around

> the house screaming I just can't do it kinda going batty. I am

> freaking out she is telling me just to sit down and leave her alone

> and ordering me around and I am doing just what she says.

>

> What do I do when she does it? Should I send her to her room? or let

> her do it?

>

> help

>

[Guest guest]

I'm certainly not an expert but two years when my son started throwing his

fits, I always tried to calm him down, soothe him, try to hold him,

etc...(He is 8 now). That just made it worse. After months of these fits,

sometimes violent, we started sending him to his room. While up there he

would trash his room. After he calmed down, I would look around his room in

disbelief. He is a neat freak when it comes to his room and his things.

Before he was allowed back downstairs he had to straighten up everything

that he messed up. He would strip his bed and his brother's, throw things

off his dressers, throw his toys down the steps, pull half of our 500 books

off the bookshelf, etc...After months of this, he cut back a little and now

only throws a few things down the steps, pounds his feet up the stairs and

kicks the anything he passes. When he is all done, he has to clean up

anything that he throw or pulled out of place.

You didn't mention anything about yoru daughter being at the extreme my son

was but if her being in the same room with other people isn't helping, try

sending her up to her room. It didn't work for Mike at first. I had to

take him up there most times and sit at the top of the steps to make sure

that he didn't come back down. After a few weeks of this, he ended up

staying up there himself and fighting it through. He has become a lot

better with it. Now if he does have a fit, I just tell him to go up to his

room until he calms down and then he can come back down. It took time and a

lot of patience but I didn't want him disrupting the rest of the house. I

have two other children at home (daughter 13 and son 6) and a lot of times,

when he was angry, he would go after whoever is there. I know they can

not help the OCD on their own but I do try to keep those fits under control.

I felt bad sending him to his room alone to deal with it, but now if seems

to be working.

Good luck,

Deana

>>What do I do when she does it? Should I send her to her room? or let

>her do it?

>

>help

>

>

>

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Your best bet would be to speak with a specialist. Childrens behavior can vary even when they are neuro-typical. My son is 10 years old now. When he was younger he behaved much like your child. He would not play with his toys but preffered things like wire, sticks, or anything that he could spin. The socializing was an issue as well. He would play for a few minutes then wander off. Even to this day he prefers solitude. He does like people alot but grows tired of them quickly so he never forms that "bond". His interests are limited to things like the sasquatch, loch ness monster, star wars, etc... Most people dont want to talk about these things 24 hours a day and are sometimes put off by him. Keep up your search. Ask professionals. Not just pediatricians because they dont know squat about it. Find a specialist to evaluate your child.

in Lancaster, Caswany1888 <pswan@...> wrote:

My son Liam is four and a half, my sister thinks he has AS and I had never heard of it so I have been reading about it and it sounds quite familiar to his personality. He is obssesed with three things in life, Coldplay, which he has to listen to every time we are in the car, he knows the name of every track and which number on the cd each one is. At night he has to watch the Coldplay dvd as soon as he gets in from daycare..(lucky I like Coldplay!) He is also obsessed with nappies and calls them strappy nappies and always wants me to buy them, I dont, he doesn't wear them as he is toilet trained but wants to wear them and is always asking his cousin (3 1/2) about them. And then there is money has to be notes and big ones at that $100 or $50 takes notes out my purse all the time to put in his wallet loves atms.

He has been to the zoo about 8 times and is not interested in any animals, just the puddles or bridges or drains. He will not eat anything much other than macaroni sheese or spagehtti or cheese pizza, and if I give him soup I have to strain it to remove any 'green things' even though his favour colour is green.He wont watch any movies during the day and says movies are only for night.I can't get him to bed at night, it's a nightmare.He has an amazing concentration span when it comes to things but not when I try to teach him stuff. He thinks he is an adult and goes to work, he often says he doesn't want to go to school as he hates the other kids.He isn't social with other kids but rather picks out one kid and plays with them for 10 mins then wanders off to be on his own.He never plays with any of his toys rather uses stuff like chains and clothespegs and plastic bags.Does this

sound like AS?????????Please help or what do you think ???My name is ine__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I " m not a doctor, but it certainly sounds like AS to me. Were I you, I

would have him evaluated by a psychologist familiar with autism.

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[Guest guest]

It reminds me alot of my 13 year old child with AS, especially when he was younger. My son was not diagnose until he was 12 years old. All those years of wondering why he was different, and soooooo unsocial, especially at school! I would just suggest having it diagnosed right away, if that's what he has, so you can begin some therapy and learn how to make things more smooth for your family and for your son!! swany1888 <pswan@...> wrote:

My son Liam is four and a half, my sister thinks he has AS and I had never heard of it so I have been reading about it and it sounds quite familiar to his personality. He is obssesed with three things in life, Coldplay, which he has to listen to every time we are in the car, he knows the name of every track and which number on the cd each one is. At night he has to watch the Coldplay dvd as soon as he gets in from daycare..(lucky I like Coldplay!) He is also obsessed with nappies and calls them strappy nappies and always wants me to buy them, I dont, he doesn't wear them as he is toilet trained but wants to wear them and is always asking his cousin (3 1/2) about them. And then there is money has to be notes and big ones at that $100 or $50 takes notes out my purse all the time to put in his wallet loves atms.

He has been to the zoo about 8 times and is not interested in any animals, just the puddles or bridges or drains. He will not eat anything much other than macaroni sheese or spagehtti or cheese pizza, and if I give him soup I have to strain it to remove any 'green things' even though his favour colour is green.He wont watch any movies during the day and says movies are only for night.I can't get him to bed at night, it's a nightmare.He has an amazing concentration span when it comes to things but not when I try to teach him stuff. He thinks he is an adult and goes to work, he often says he doesn't want to go to school as he hates the other kids.He isn't social with other kids but rather picks out one kid and plays with them for 10 mins then wanders off to be on his own.He never plays with any of his toys rather uses stuff like chains and clothespegs and plastic bags.Does this

sound like AS?????????Please help or what do you think ???My name is ine

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Yes, you should throw it out. Aspartame is poison. See www.dorway.net.

question

> Now I am wondering. I thought I was such a smarty pants last night I

> flavored one full batch of kombucha with root beer and splenda and another

> with my favorite crystal light that has nutra sweet in it. I wonder if I

> should just throw them all out??

>

> Eliesa

> Pain nourishes courage. You can't be brave if you've only had wonderful

> things happen to you.

>

>

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Question

My son Liam is four and a half, my sister thinks he has AS and I had

never heard of it so I have been reading about it and it sounds

quite familiar to his personality.

Hi ine, I would recommend you keep

reading on different internet sites. OASIS is good www.aspergersyndrome.org. and their book is very clear and helpful. Also, read some of

Tony Attwood’s research papers www.tonyattwood.com

I can't get him to bed at night, it's a nightmare.

***********try Melatonin

(over the counter, ask your pharmacist) Start with 1

mg. ½ hour before bedtime….

He has an amazing concentration span when it comes

to things

**My son does as well if

the subject interests him….

******Does your

son grab your chin and turn your head towards him? Does he line up toys?

Just curious as

my son did these things and I have heard of a number of kids like this since.

My son is 12, Asperger’s, OCD, diagnosed at almost 10. A good guy and

major animal lover…Gail

[Guest guest]

Gail,

MY son turns my chin towards him when ever he needs to talk to me. I HAVE PERMENANT WHIP LASH lol

What is this a sign of ? Or in regards too? Speech? Social skills? HMMMMJaneGail Africa <lilies@...> wrote:

-----Original Message-----From: Autism and Aspergers Treatment [mailto:Autism and Aspergers Treatment ] On Behalf Of swany1888Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:45 AMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Question

My son Liam is four and a half, my sister thinks he has AS and I had never heard of it so I have been reading about it and it sounds quite familiar to his personality. Hi ine, I would recommend you keep reading on different internet sites. OASIS is good www.aspergersyndrome.org. and their book is very clear and helpful. Also, read some of Tony Attwood’s research papers www.tonyattwood.com I can't get him to bed at night, it's a nightmare.

***********try Melatonin (over the counter, ask your pharmacist) Start with 1 mg. ½ hour before bedtime….

He has an amazing concentration span when it comes to things

**My son does as well if the subject interests him….

******Does your son grab your chin and turn your head towards him? Does he line up toys?

Just curious as my son did these things and I have heard of a number of kids like this since. My son is 12, Asperger’s, OCD, diagnosed at almost 10. A good guy and major animal lover…Gail

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Question

Gail,

MY son turns my chin towards him when ever he needs to talk to me. I

HAVE PERMENANT WHIP LASH lol

************Interesting Jane, which is why

I asked. My son did this at 4. I have been at conferences where they showed a

film and I noticed an Asperger child do this. My husband was at a conference and

this was mentioned as an Autistic spectrum (they were talking about an Asperger’s

sign). I don’t totally know the reason, something to do with making sure

you are listening to them, hearing exactly what they are trying to tell you.

They don’t know you’re listening if you are fussing about. Again, I

think it something to do with not being able to read situations. A small but

interesting detail I think….Gail

[Guest guest]

In message <81.2add9e55.2ff9fe28@...> you wrote:

> I have my second batch of kombucha brewing. Its been 7 days and I intend to

> ferment 2-3 weeks. I'm out of tea however and don't want this to happen

> again. What's the best way to start a new brew right now without disturbing

my

> scoby too much? I already gave a friend my first baby so don't have a spare.

Do you HAVE to brew as long as 2-3 weeks? Of course, if you have a health

condition which needs to exclude sugar out of your diet, o.k.

Otherwise, you could just about harvest your brew. Try it first whether it

has enough acidity for your taste. In the warmer weather I harvest at about

at 8 days.

If you do want to brew on, though, there is no other way to make a new brew

than to disturb the scoby. Cutting it in half will be a bit unsettling,

but it'll get over it quickly: half to be put back in the brew from whence

it came and the other half for your new brew. Sounds a good option to me.

If the present brew isn't acidic enough yet you can use distilled white

vinegar (about 4 tbsps) for your new brew, spooned over the top of

the partial scoby.

A cut scoby does not loose its fermenting power in any way.

Have a good day!

kombuchaly,

Margret:-)

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response but now I have more questions. Oy.

> I have my second batch of kombucha brewing. Its been 7 days and I intend

to

> ferment 2-3 weeks. I'm out of tea.... What's the best way to start a new

brew right now without disturbing my > scoby too much?

>>>Do you HAVE to brew as long as 2-3 weeks?

Affirmative

>>>If you do want to brew on...cutting it in half will be a bit unsettling,

but it'll get over it quickly: half to be put back in the brew from whence

it came and the other half for your new brew.

Can I just separate the baby and leave it or the old scoby to carry on the

fermenting instead?

You wrote on another post/topic that, " The whole of the liquid is culture,

filled with yeast cells and bacteria cells all doing their job eating the

sugar and the tea

nutrients and producing the health giving properties of your Kombucha

Tonic. You could therefore brew Kombucha Tonic just with the liquid itself

....

and it will make another scoby on top.

How long does this take?

Sorry if these questions have been asked/answered a million times already.

Many thanks. Over and out.

MC

[Guest guest]

I'm an older folk and don't know the reason but a sibling of mine (who is now 45) didn't talk until well after turning two. This sibling is totally normal.

mnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

i just talked to a woman who said her fully vaccinated daughter didn'tstart talking till age 2. my fully vaccinated niece also didn't starttalking till age 2. i'm wondering just how common this is. myunvaccinated children said mama at 5 months and started talking at 11months. when i was a child my siblings and i were talking well before2 years of age. it's my understanding that the doctors are tellingparents that some kids are late talkers and it's no big deal. anyolder folks here who can tell us if their children and theirchildren's friends were late talkers?__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Some variation does seem to be normal. Both of my grandchildren are

largely unvaccinated. My granddaughter only had the DT, starting

around 9 months, my grandson has had no vaccines at all. He'll be two

in about a week.

My granddaughter was talking quite well by two. My grandson only knows

a few words and is just beginning to form two word combinations. He

understands a huge amount of words and can follow quite complex

statements but is reluctant to speak.

The question is: are a lot of children showing delayed speech? I think

there have always been some and it isn't necessarily a sign of

problems, but if the numbers increase...

Deborah

> i just talked to a woman who said her fully vaccinated daughter

didn't

> start talking till age 2. my fully vaccinated niece also didn't

start

> talking till age 2. i'm wondering just how common this is. my

> unvaccinated children said mama at 5 months and started talking at 11

> months. when i was a child my siblings and i were talking well

before

> 2 years of age. it's my understanding that the doctors are telling

> parents that some kids are late talkers and it's no big deal. any

> older folks here who can tell us if their children and their

> children's friends were late talkers?

[Guest guest]

I would first find out what was in the vaccines she gave. I doubt you

will get anywhere with suing her, but I would at least put in some kind

of formal complaint. If you know where she is practing maybe you could

find a group in that state and spread the word.

Peggy

> Peggy,

>

> Hope you don't mind if I ask a question. I specifically told our ped

> no Prevnar because it contained thimerosal. I specifically asked her

> to disclose any and all potential dangers of the other vaccines. She

> said, " Only redness at the sight and slight fever. " Was she not duty

> bound to inform me that the other vaccines contained thimerosal?

>

> Given that this happened in 2001, do I even have a legal ground to

> stand on? We have been languishing in the VICP since early 2002.

>

> I think about how that doctor lied to me all the time. I even thought

> of writing her a letter expressing my feelings and what she had done

> to my son and our family. I asked her at the time the rate of autism

> and she said, " One in a million. " She was even clueless about that.

>

> She split our state but I found out where she is now practicing.

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You have excellent grounds for a law suit

From Sept '03 to April, '05 4700 were filed. Best filed in a DC court because the newspapers there,

esp. Washington Times have kept their readers informed as to dangers of

thimersol containing vaccines.

I am hunting fir a medical malpractice attirnet with DC licensefor 7 othrt reader of EOHarm Will ler you know

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question

Peggy,Hope you don't mind if I ask a question. I specifically told our pedno Prevnar because it contained thimerosal. I specifically asked herto disclose any and all potential dangers of the other vaccines. Shesaid, "Only redness at the sight and slight fever." Was she not dutybound to inform me that the other vaccines contained thimerosal?Given that this happened in 2001, do I even have a legal ground tostand on? We have been languishing in the VICP since early 2002.I think about how that doctor lied to me all the time. I even thoughtof writing her a letter expressing my feelings and what she had doneto my son and our family. I asked her at the time the rate of autismand she said, "One in a million." She was even clueless about that.She split our state but I found out where she is now practicing.

[Guest guest]

Haven't you heard of informed consent?

H.H. Fudenberg,

M.D.

Re: question

I would first find out what was in the vaccines she gave. I doubt you will get anywhere with suing her, but I would at least put in some kind of formal complaint. If you know where she is practing maybe you could find a group in that state and spread the word.Peggy> Peggy,> > Hope you don't mind if I ask a question. I specifically told our ped> no Prevnar because it contained thimerosal. I specifically asked her> to disclose any and all potential dangers of the other vaccines. She> said, "Only redness at the sight and slight fever." Was she not duty> bound to inform me that the other vaccines contained thimerosal?> > Given that this happened in 2001, do I even have a legal ground to> stand on? We have been languishing in the VICP since early 2002.> > I think about how that doctor lied to me all the time. I even thought> of writing her a letter expressing my feelings and what she had done> to my son and our family. I asked her at the time the rate of autism> and she said, "One in a million." She was even clueless about that.> > She split our state but I found out where she is now practicing.

[Guest guest]

for Peggy Rose

Re: question

I would first find out what was in the vaccines she gave. I doubt you will get anywhere with suing her, but I would at least put in some kind of formal complaint. If you know where she is practing maybe you could find a group in that state and spread the word.Peggy> Peggy,> > Hope you don't mind if I ask a question. I specifically told our ped> no Prevnar because it contained thimerosal. I specifically asked her> to disclose any and all potential dangers of the other vaccines. She> said, "Only redness at the sight and slight fever." Was she not duty> bound to inform me that the other vaccines contained thimerosal?> > Given that this happened in 2001, do I even have a legal ground to> stand on? We have been languishing in the VICP since early 2002.> > I think about how that doctor lied to me all the time. I even thought> of writing her a letter expressing my feelings and what she had done> to my son and our family. I asked her at the time the rate of autism> and she said, "One in a million." She was even clueless about that.> > She split our state but I found out where she is now practicing.

[Guest guest]

Re: question

I would first find out what was in the vaccines she gave. I doubt you will get anywhere with suing her, but I would at least put in some kind of formal complaint. If you know where she is practing maybe you could find a group in that state and spread the word.Peggy> Peggy,> > Hope you don't mind if I ask a question. I specifically told our ped> no Prevnar because it contained thimerosal. I specifically asked her> to disclose any and all potential dangers of the other vaccines. She> said, "Only redness at the sight and slight fever." Was she not duty> bound to inform me that the other vaccines contained thimerosal?> > Given that this happened in 2001, do I even have a legal ground to> stand on? We have been languishing in the VICP since early 2002.> > I think about how that doctor lied to me all the time. I even thought> of writing her a letter expressing my feelings and what she had done> to my son and our family. I asked her at the time the rate of autism> and she said, "One in a million." She was even clueless about that.> > She split our state but I found out where she is now practicing.

[Guest guest]

There is something called informed consent. Physicians must advise patients of the risks not just the benefits of any theraperutic or preventive procedure.

H H Fudenberg , M,D,

PS The average pediatrician gets 53% of his income fron giving vaccines.

Re: question

I would first find out what was in the vaccines she gave. I doubt you will get anywhere with suing her, but I would at least put in some kind of formal complaint. If you know where she is practing maybe you could find a group in that state and spread the word.Peggy> Peggy,> > Hope you don't mind if I ask a question. I specifically told our ped> no Prevnar because it contained thimerosal. I specifically asked her> to disclose any and all potential dangers of the other vaccines. She> said, "Only redness at the sight and slight fever." Was she not duty> bound to inform me that the other vaccines contained thimerosal?> > Given that this happened in 2001, do I even have a legal ground to> stand on? We have been languishing in the VICP since early 2002.> > I think about how that doctor lied to me all the time. I even thought> of writing her a letter expressing my feelings and what she had done> to my son and our family. I asked her at the time the rate of autism> and she said, "One in a million." She was even clueless about that.> > She split our state but I found out where she is now practicing.

[Guest guest]

I think the numbers are increasing, but it tends to run in families.

My son is a very late talker, and so is my nephew. (I was reading at

age three.) But I've been told that my uncle, age 77, didn't talk

until he was three.

S.

> i just talked to a woman who said her fully vaccinated daughter didn't

> start talking till age 2. my fully vaccinated niece also didn't start

> talking till age 2. i'm wondering just how common this is. my

> unvaccinated children said mama at 5 months and started talking at 11

> months. when i was a child my siblings and i were talking well before

> 2 years of age. it's my understanding that the doctors are telling

> parents that some kids are late talkers and it's no big deal. any

> older folks here who can tell us if their children and their

> children's friends were late talkers?

[Guest guest]

for kist 2--1

"Familial"maybe because its genetic, or because the fasmily members share a common toxic environment.

Re: Question

I think the numbers are increasing, but it tends to run in families. My son is a very late talker, and so is my nephew. (I was reading at age three.) But I've been told that my uncle, age 77, didn't talk until he was three. S.> i just talked to a woman who said her fully vaccinated daughter didn't> start talking till age 2. my fully vaccinated niece also didn't start> talking till age 2. i'm wondering just how common this is. my> unvaccinated children said mama at 5 months and started talking at 11> months. when i was a child my siblings and i were talking well before> 2 years of age. it's my understanding that the doctors are telling> parents that some kids are late talkers and it's no big deal. any> older folks here who can tell us if their children and their> children's friends were late talkers?

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for kist 2--1

"Familial"maybe because its genetic, or because the family members share a common toxic environment.

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I think the numbers are increasing, but it tends to run in families. My son is a very late talker, and so is my nephew. (I was reading at age three.) But I've been told that my uncle, age 77, didn't talk until he was three. S.> i just talked to a woman who said her fully vaccinated daughter didn't> start talking till age 2. my fully vaccinated niece also didn't start> talking till age 2. i'm wondering just how common this is. my> unvaccinated children said mama at 5 months and started talking at 11> months. when i was a child my siblings and i were talking well before> 2 years of age. it's my understanding that the doctors are telling> parents that some kids are late talkers and it's no big deal. any> older folks here who can tell us if their children and their> children's friends were late talkers?

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I think the numbers are increasing, but it tends to run in families. My son is a very late talker, and so is my nephew. (I was reading at age three.) But I've been told that my uncle, age 77, didn't talk until he was three. S.> i just talked to a woman who said her fully vaccinated daughter didn't> start talking till age 2. my fully vaccinated niece also didn't start> talking till age 2. i'm wondering just how common this is. my> unvaccinated children said mama at 5 months and started talking at 11> months. when i was a child my siblings and i were talking well before> 2 years of age. it's my understanding that the doctors are telling> parents that some kids are late talkers and it's no big deal. any> older folks here who can tell us if their children and their> children's friends were late talkers?