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Edmark has a reading program that the child doesn't have to be totally verbal to

learn to read. It's a sight reading program. The word is introduced as a

choice of the word and 2 sets of dashed lines. The child points to the right

word. Then the word is shown with random letters, so there's no chance to be

wrong. Then the child is asked to read or sign the word. It comes with a sign

manual with all the words listed in order presented. It's expensive though, at

around $489. I got mine used from a friend who bought it used (although it had

never actually been used, if you follow.

Here's the web site: http://www.edmark.com/

But you have to request a catalog, because the reading program isn't on the web

site.

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Kayte, My son Gene has always been a good sight word reader, since two. But

he really has had difficulty putting the words together to become a reader of

sentences. He has trouble understanding the words as a meaning together in a

sentence. But as for helping him learn to speak, we have off and on used

pictures with words above or below. Sometimes we just use words and not

pictures. He speaks words more clearly when he actually reads them. We use

a strategy where we put pictures in front of him with words and have him read

and say those for things he wants....like " open it " for when he is asking me

to open milk. If he doesn't have the words to read, he will just sort of

scream for it. We are trying to get him to say more instead of screaming for

what he wants. At age 11, we have found that he has found screaming easier

than using the words he knows and can say, which are alot. So now we are

trying to work very diligently on getting him to use his words and wishing we

had been much more aggressive about this earlier.

Lauri, mom to Gene, 11.

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Kayte, can read/recognise lots of words and understands them e.g we can

show 3 pics woth one of a bird and ask for the one with feathers,however we

have been unable to get him to use this as a communication aid,he does nt

seem to understand communication very well at all Pat

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I spoke to Elie's teacher yesterday about their reading program. He believes

that it is an OK starter program. The vocabulary is limited to about 200 words.

It is not connected to the high frequency word lists that Edmark has but that

isn't necessarily bad. The word lists tend to do with signage and menues,

groceries, etc.

Sara

>>> hsmyangel@... - 05/12/0 2:09 AM >>>

Edmark has a reading program that the child doesn't have to be totally verbal to

learn to read. It's a sight reading program. The word is introduced as a

choice of the word and 2 sets of dashed lines. The child points to the right

word. Then the word is shown with random letters, so there's no chance to be

wrong. Then the child is asked to read or sign the word. It comes with a sign

manual with all the words listed in order presented. It's expensive though, at

around $489. I got mine used from a friend who bought it used (although it had

never actually been used, if you follow.

Here's the web site: http://www.edmark.com/

But you have to request a catalog, because the reading program isn't on the web

site.

Loriann

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Have I missed something? Who is Ms. Cleo?

Sara

Thanks for sharing that!>>> prestonjulia@... 04/19/01 12:23PM >>> Ms.Cleo told me that eveyone one on the list is doing quite well, and everything is going to be fine!

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Retarded " jamaican " psychic woman on the TV commercials.

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On 4/20/01 at 8:33 PM Sara Altmyer wrote:

> Have I missed something? Who is Ms. Cleo?

>

> Sara

>

>

> Thanks for sharing that!

>

> >>> prestonjulia@... 04/19/01 12:23PM >>>

>

> Ms.Cleo told me that eveyone one on the list is doing quite well, and

> everything is going to be fine!

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> Cassie that is a rude thing to say, she isn't a Psychic, she never even

> claim to be one!

> She is a tarot card reader!

> HELLO!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAgaspHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

My mistake. Shame on me for confusing a tv psychic with a tv tarot card reader.

ROFLMFAO!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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In a message dated 11/7/01 9:35:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

hsmyangels@... writes:

>

This is fantastic Loriann. A good brag at a good time. Glad to hear it. Just

wrote to Gail about reading. I think we will always wonder until it happens.

Diane (mom to Rochelle ds-5 and Danny 7)

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In a message dated 4/2/2004 7:40:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

love to read. A real page turner on the stair stepper works wonders. The

other day I plugged in 30 minutes and when the program was over I was so into

what

I was reading the machine stopped and I was still stepping away. If I'm

running outside it has to be music turned up to ear splitting decibels.

Wow. How do you stay focused on the words? I've tried reading on machines

before but I can only do it at low intensity. Beyond that I start moving

around too much and can't really stay with the words.

K

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Years ago our 21 year old was going through speech therapy with

an 'elective mutism' label. She was 4 at the time. We read a lot and

I noticed that she was always wanting to turn the pages before we

finished. I began asking her questions about the stories when we did

finish. She could not 'tell' me the answers but she always turned to

the correct page and line to answer the question. She had 'learned'

to read just doing the phonics that came along with speech therapy.

Took ME awhile to catch on!

>

> Thanks for that , to be honest I haven't heard much about

Facillitated

> Communication for yrs, it was quite controversial a few yrs back,

and I

> don't know anyone who actually uses this method.

> Not convinced would be able to communicate in this way though,

he

> doesen't use a key board, if he did I would be very pleased but

also amazed.

> I don't believe he can read, would like to think he can, but being

realistic

> I have absolutely no reason to believe he understands the written

word

> anymore than the spoken, actually he does understand spoken word.

> How do the parents of non verbal children know they can read? I'm

pretty

> sure I would know if he could read or use a key board but if I'm

missing somethi

> ng then would like to know.

> Thanks

> Vicky

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Aliza,

Please feel free contacting me privately and I will be more than happy to help

you.

Lesli Bernanke

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Reading

My daughter will be 9 in August. Though we have very specific reading goals in

her IEP, as well as in-home therapists, we can't seem to get her past the

phonetic sounds of letters and into actually putting sounds together and forming

words - reading! We've been at this standstill for quite a while and can't get

her motivated at all.

Has anybody had a similar situation and been able to help their child go to the

next level of actually reading? Any ideas, suggestions, etc.?

Thanks,

Aliza

...the test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its helpless

members.

-Pearl S. Buck

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Aliza,

Please feel free contacting me privately and I will be more than happy to help

you.

Lesli Bernanke

Under the Umbrella

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Reading

My daughter will be 9 in August. Though we have very specific reading goals in

her IEP, as well as in-home therapists, we can't seem to get her past the

phonetic sounds of letters and into actually putting sounds together and forming

words - reading! We've been at this standstill for quite a while and can't get

her motivated at all.

Has anybody had a similar situation and been able to help their child go to the

next level of actually reading? Any ideas, suggestions, etc.?

Thanks,

Aliza

...the test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its helpless

members.

-Pearl S. Buck

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do you mind sharing any tips or advice on the list as many of us have

similar issues.

Thanks,

Reading

>

>

> My daughter will be 9 in August. Though we have very specific reading

> goals in her IEP, as well as in-home therapists, we can't seem to get her

> past the phonetic sounds of letters and into actually putting sounds

> together and forming words - reading! We've been at this standstill for

> quite a while and can't get her motivated at all.

>

> Has anybody had a similar situation and been able to help their child go

> to the next level of actually reading? Any ideas, suggestions, etc.?

>

> Thanks,

> Aliza

>

> ...the test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its helpless

> members.

>

> -Pearl S. Buck

>

>

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do you mind sharing any tips or advice on the list as many of us have

similar issues.

Thanks,

Reading

>

>

> My daughter will be 9 in August. Though we have very specific reading

> goals in her IEP, as well as in-home therapists, we can't seem to get her

> past the phonetic sounds of letters and into actually putting sounds

> together and forming words - reading! We've been at this standstill for

> quite a while and can't get her motivated at all.

>

> Has anybody had a similar situation and been able to help their child go

> to the next level of actually reading? Any ideas, suggestions, etc.?

>

> Thanks,

> Aliza

>

> ...the test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its helpless

> members.

>

> -Pearl S. Buck

>

>

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do you mind sharing any tips or advice on the list as many of us have

similar issues.

Thanks,

Reading

>

>

> My daughter will be 9 in August. Though we have very specific reading

> goals in her IEP, as well as in-home therapists, we can't seem to get her

> past the phonetic sounds of letters and into actually putting sounds

> together and forming words - reading! We've been at this standstill for

> quite a while and can't get her motivated at all.

>

> Has anybody had a similar situation and been able to help their child go

> to the next level of actually reading? Any ideas, suggestions, etc.?

>

> Thanks,

> Aliza

>

> ...the test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its helpless

> members.

>

> -Pearl S. Buck

>

>

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>I had the same problem with my son diagnosed with autism and 10

years old. We switched from a phonics based reading program to

learning sight words. He is reading a lot better now and since he

has a great visual memory we are using his strength.

> My daughter will be 9 in August. Though we have very specific

reading goals in her IEP, as well as in-home therapists, we can't

seem to get her past the phonetic sounds of letters and into actually

putting sounds together and forming words - reading! We've been at

this standstill for quite a while and can't get her motivated at all.

>

> Has anybody had a similar situation and been able to help their

child go to the next level of actually reading? Any ideas,

suggestions, etc.?

>

> Thanks,

> Aliza

>

> ...the test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its

helpless members.

>

> -Pearl S. Buck

>

>

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>I had the same problem with my son diagnosed with autism and 10

years old. We switched from a phonics based reading program to

learning sight words. He is reading a lot better now and since he

has a great visual memory we are using his strength.

> My daughter will be 9 in August. Though we have very specific

reading goals in her IEP, as well as in-home therapists, we can't

seem to get her past the phonetic sounds of letters and into actually

putting sounds together and forming words - reading! We've been at

this standstill for quite a while and can't get her motivated at all.

>

> Has anybody had a similar situation and been able to help their

child go to the next level of actually reading? Any ideas,

suggestions, etc.?

>

> Thanks,

> Aliza

>

> ...the test of a civilization is in the way that it cares for its

helpless members.

>

> -Pearl S. Buck

>

>

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hii try to make use of educational movies to allow my autistic son to learn. Perhaps that could help. The only thing i could think of for your son's age would be using subtitles while watching movies. I also find that using pictures for a schedule instead of written words or telling him what's coming up helps too.

My behavior therapist and i are working on laminating pages that are divided into two columns with labels, " IF " and " THEN " . We are going to put consequences of behavior on there, whether good or bad. Maybe making a rule of so much reading will earn you so much gaming time. I KNOW that will be terribly hard at first for him.

My son is hitting a lot lately and i am putting him in the bathroom every time he hits me now. He's still very little but the thought of him hitting me when he is 8 for example terrifies me.I hope this helps you.

MarcelleOn Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Flo Djoe <fkdjoe@...> wrote:

 

Dear parents,

 

My son is 12 years and he is autistic. I make a goal this year for a better reading skill and spend more time with me reading and do some quality time.

It is a challenge to make him sit down to read books. His only interest is game and computer so far which is good and bad, he learn some languange from there but he become one of them. Talk and act like the character and he has his game imagination in his head when he do not do anything.

He talked about the game by himself and very fascinated. It is really frustated and I ask him to stop. He stop and later he does it again.

 

So far he can read and talk in sentences now but his comprehensive is low.

I try a little bit at a time and give rewards and he throw tantrum sometimes. so I think it is more about transition of his schedule.

I need to calm myself in order to handle him which is hard and I try the best to be his supporter.

 

It is been a challenge to me since sometimes I do not know how to handle him and it frustated me too.

Try to make schedule again and I need to shut my ear and be peaceful when I handle him.

I rather have somebody to take care of him do the reading camp or something.

 

Any suggestion!

 

FLo 

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Hi Flo! I wanted to recommend something to you that might help your son with

reading. Hot Dots is a talking pen system. The pen gives the child immediate

feedback on whether they answer a question correctly. You can buy Hot Dots for

almost any subject and they start as basic as letter recognition. You can buy

Hot Dots on Amazon or teacher stores. They have an entire series of reading

comprehension cards that might be perfect for your son. The system is

incredible and kids love them because it is multi-sensory. I think the

immediate feedback is especially helpful for children with autism. There are

also free reading comprehension web-sites you can use that give the child

immediate feedback. One I like is www.readtheory.org. Since your son likes

computers this might be a way to get him to read. He can read the story and

then answer the questions that go with it for immediate feedback on his

progress.

Hope this helps! I would suggest breaking the sessions up into a time frame you

think your son can handle. It may only be five minutes in the beginning. You

could even use an If/Then chart with him at first so he could visually see what

you are planning. Sometimes that helps my son. Good luck!

>

>

> Dear parents,

>

> My son is 12 years and he is autistic. I make a goal this year for a better

reading skill and spend more time with me reading and do some quality time.

> It is a challenge to make him sit down to read books. His only interest is

game and computer so far which is good and bad, he learn some languange from

there but he become one of them. Talk and act like the character and he has his

game imagination in his head when he do not do anything.

> He talked about the game by himself and very fascinated. It is really

frustated and I ask him to stop. He stop and later he does it again.

>

> So far he can read and talk in sentences now but his comprehensive is low.

> I try a little bit at a time and give rewards and he throw tantrum sometimes.

so I think it is more about transition of his schedule.

> I need to calm myself in order to handle him which is hard and I try the best

to be his supporter.

>

> It is been a challenge to me since sometimes I do not know how to handle him

and it frustated me too.

> Try to make schedule again and I need to shut my ear and be peaceful when I

handle him.

> I rather have somebody to take care of him do the reading camp or something.

>

> Any suggestion!

>

> FLo

>

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What is your son's reading level? My boys really enjoy the Choose

Your Own Adventure books.... they're sort of a cross between a book

and a game. My 8 year old, 13 and 15 year old all enjoy them. You

might check out this series. You can

usually get them at the library.

On 4/23/2011 4:19 PM, prisread wrote:

> Is he able to read the instructions for his games? Does he pay attention or

ignore the written information on the screen or in the small game book that came

with the game? If his interest is games, look for actual game books. These are

books that give advice about the specific game he may be playing. These can be

found at video game stores, ask the guys who work there. Also check on line for

some. Get him involved, you can always preview the book at Amazon to see if too

difficult, too easy, etc. re language.

>

> What other interest does he have? He may do much, much better with reference

type of books instead of story (novel) books BECAUSE of his autism. The factual

information is much more soothing than trying to remember make-believe

situations and names of made-up people, etc. Attempting to read something that

is foreign to his way of thinking can be stressful and that interfers with his

reading comprehension. Often novels or stories are filled with lovely language

that is NOT concrete. This can make people with autism crazy as the language

itself gets in the way of comprehension of the information of the story. What

is he reading level? Check with local children's librarian (or back to this

group) for more information re specific books. Once you get enjoyment as routine

part of reading, you can slowly expand to other books, but he may never like the

typical books a lot of early teens like. In fact, he may actually like somewhat

younger books due to his developmental delays of autism. (Try Captain Underpants

books, silly and fun for a lot of boys)

>

> Also, you mentioned that he can talk and act like the characters of his

current game. You could definitely use this to your/his advantage. If he has no

writing issues (dysgraphia, dislexic, etc.) and likes the mechanics of writing:

have him write about a level of one of his games. Have him reverse characters

(changing perspective by acting as though he is a different character) and write

about that. If the mechanics of writing are getting in the way of his creativity

or even comprehension of anything written, have him tell you and you act as his

scribe (use keyboard, it's faster). The point is that he has definite interests

and I would absolutely make use of them. The bigger point being to help him to

see/understand the relavance of comprehension and communication.

>

> Rome wasn't built in a day, so be calm and confident. You can do this one step

at a time.

> Priscilla

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>> Dear parents,

>>

>> My son is 12 years and he is autistic. I make a goal this year for a better

reading skill and spend more time with me reading and do some quality time.

>> It is a challenge to make him sit down to read books. His only interest is

game and computer so far which is good and bad, he learn some languange from

there but he become one of them. Talk and act like the character and he has his

game imagination in his head when he do not do anything.

>> He talked about the game by himself and very fascinated. It is really

frustated and I ask him to stop. He stop and later he does it again.

>>

>> So far he can read and talk in sentences now but his comprehensive is low.

>> I try a little bit at a time and give rewards and he throw tantrum sometimes.

so I think it is more about transition of his schedule.

>> I need to calm myself in order to handle him which is hard and I try the best

to be his supporter.

>>

>> It is been a challenge to me since sometimes I do not know how to handle him

and it frustated me too.

>> Try to make schedule again and I need to shut my ear and be peaceful when I

handle him.

>> I rather have somebody to take care of him do the reading camp or something.

>>

>> Any suggestion!

>>

>> FLo

>>

>>

>

>

>

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Hi Priscilla,

Yes,he is able to read instruction. Thanks. I try to use his interest for reading topic like his game or cooking. Mostly game book is reference, so I use it to ask character and what are they doing?He still love Sponge Bob & square pants, children toys with sound and WII Games and DS game off course.

He like to search Youtube to find the anwser for his game, which I found very interesting. He likes to win and be the no. 1.

He is my only son too.

Yes, I think I expect him a lot to achieve a better skills. It is good and bad.

He starts building sentences the last 3 years after years of effort going to a lot of seminars and therapy.

His reading level is 6th grade. Still have some wording and comphrehension challenge, but indeed thank you for all your info.

Your method is right. I start with number when he was not talking and it works since he likes math. I always find his interest first rather than force him to do something,

it make less tantrum and more interesting for him. So far he loves school, probably the structures and the crowd. He loves the crowd.

He is still in autism classroom with pullout for APE and speech, math with aid. My goal before make him mainstream 100 % but at this point he is not ready.

He is still get lost and lack of focus on things that are not interest him.

Thanks for your support and hope you are all well too.

Flo

Autism and Aspergers Treatment From: prisread@...Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:19:18 +0000Subject: Re: Reading

Is he able to read the instructions for his games? Does he pay attention or ignore the written information on the screen or in the small game book that came with the game? If his interest is games, look for actual game books. These are books that give advice about the specific game he may be playing. These can be found at video game stores, ask the guys who work there. Also check on line for some. Get him involved, you can always preview the book at Amazon to see if too difficult, too easy, etc. re language.What other interest does he have? He may do much, much better with reference type of books instead of story (novel) books BECAUSE of his autism. The factual information is much more soothing than trying to remember make-believe situations and names of made-up people, etc. Attempting to read something that is foreign to his way of thinking can be stressful and that interfers with his reading comprehension. Often novels or stories are filled with lovely language that is NOT concrete. This can make people with autism crazy as the language itself gets in the way of comprehension of the information of the story. What is he reading level? Check with local children's librarian (or back to this group) for more information re specific books. Once you get enjoyment as routine part of reading, you can slowly expand to other books, but he may never like the typical books a lot of early teens like. In fact, he may actually like somewhat younger books due to his developmental delays of autism. (Try Captain Underpants books, silly and fun for a lot of boys)Also, you mentioned that he can talk and act like the characters of his current game. You could definitely use this to your/his advantage. If he has no writing issues (dysgraphia, dislexic, etc.) and likes the mechanics of writing: have him write about a level of one of his games. Have him reverse characters (changing perspective by acting as though he is a different character) and write about that. If the mechanics of writing are getting in the way of his creativity or even comprehension of anything written, have him tell you and you act as his scribe (use keyboard, it's faster). The point is that he has definite interests and I would absolutely make use of them. The bigger point being to help him to see/understand the relavance of comprehension and communication. Rome wasn't built in a day, so be calm and confident. You can do this one step at a time.Priscilla>> > Dear parents,> > My son is 12 years and he is autistic. I make a goal this year for a better reading skill and spend more time with me reading and do some quality time.> It is a challenge to make him sit down to read books. His only interest is game and computer so far which is good and bad, he learn some languange from there but he become one of them. Talk and act like the character and he has his game imagination in his head when he do not do anything.> He talked about the game by himself and very fascinated. It is really frustated and I ask him to stop. He stop and later he does it again.> > So far he can read and talk in sentences now but his comprehensive is low. > I try a little bit at a time and give rewards and he throw tantrum sometimes. so I think it is more about transition of his schedule.> I need to calm myself in order to handle him which is hard and I try the best to be his supporter.> > It is been a challenge to me since sometimes I do not know how to handle him and it frustated me too.> Try to make schedule again and I need to shut my ear and be peaceful when I handle him. > I rather have somebody to take care of him do the reading camp or something. > > Any suggestion!> > FLo>

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