Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

[Guest guest]

Gosh! At 5'7 " , 125lbs, and 16% I don't know if you can spare 10lbs.

What are your goals? Do you want to compete? Check out

hussman.org/fitness and make sure you are eating enough (He has a bmr

section). Maybe you can focus on building more muscle? Your lean

mass is 105lbs and you only have 20lbs of fat. I read that has

114lbs of lean mass and I have 110lbs. You'll have to eat more

calories for that (check Hussman, he explains it well). We need

RENEE. She's been at this longer than me;) If you are looking to

compete (since you're bf is getting close to that level),

www.LEANandSTRONG.com has a competitors board.

Becky

> Hi,

> Gotta tell you I love this board!

> You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

> I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10 Pounds " .

> I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

> I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my

lower ab.

> I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not losing

inches

> anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

> I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose

inches...I want to

> wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

>

> I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

> I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure

thighs,knees, calves

> & ankles. No change.

> No change in waist-still 26 " .

>

> I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls who

started

> out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing suit.

Why

> can't I do that?!

>

> What do I need to do different???

> I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every workout.

> I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

> I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I will,

but I

> honestly don't want to.

> But, if it will help I will.

>

> I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad

higher in

> protein than carbs.

>

> I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free

meal. I have

> been drinking wine on my free days.

> I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this board.

>

> Daily Menu

> M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

> M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

> M3-Raylene's jello

> M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made

with flax

> oil.

> M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

>

> This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

> Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

> But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

>

> Is all the dairy a bad thing?

> I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy. Called it

WHITE

> DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy products.

I was

> told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical

messages to

> the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

> Is this true???

> Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

>

> I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff

nondairy

> creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that

have to go?

>

> Please give feedback & any suggestions.

> And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

> Sorry this was sooo long.

> Amethyst

[Guest guest]

Becky,

No, I don't want to compete. I just want to look good in a bathing suit &

shorts.

I'd like the option of wearing a 2 piece if I wanted.I can't right now. I

have a tummy & my legs are chubby.

I will look into Hussman tomorrow about eating more. I'm kinda nervous about

that. I think he said in one of his newsletters or on his website that if

you are not losing weight don't increase your food.

I had my bodyfat done at my old gym a few months back & they said I was 16%.

(I no longer belong to a gym) I plugged my numbers into Biofitness & got the

same readings.

And my measurements are the same now as when i had it done at the gym.

But I see girls who say their body fat is 19 % & i think they look thinner

than I do.

Thanks for replying.

Amethyst

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

> Gosh! At 5'7 " , 125lbs, and 16% I don't know if you can spare 10lbs.

> What are your goals? Do you want to compete? Check out

> hussman.org/fitness and make sure you are eating enough (He has a bmr

> section). Maybe you can focus on building more muscle? Your lean

> mass is 105lbs and you only have 20lbs of fat. I read that has

> 114lbs of lean mass and I have 110lbs. You'll have to eat more

> calories for that (check Hussman, he explains it well). We need

> RENEE. She's been at this longer than me;) If you are looking to

> compete (since you're bf is getting close to that level),

> www.LEANandSTRONG.com has a competitors board.

> Becky

>

>

>

> > Hi,

> > Gotta tell you I love this board!

> > You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

> > I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10 Pounds " .

> > I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

> > I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my

> lower ab.

> > I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not losing

> inches

> > anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

> > I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose

> inches...I want to

> > wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

> >

> > I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

> > I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure

> thighs,knees, calves

> > & ankles. No change.

> > No change in waist-still 26 " .

> >

> > I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls who

> started

> > out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing suit.

> Why

> > can't I do that?!

> >

> > What do I need to do different???

> > I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every workout.

> > I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

> > I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I will,

> but I

> > honestly don't want to.

> > But, if it will help I will.

> >

> > I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad

> higher in

> > protein than carbs.

> >

> > I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free

> meal. I have

> > been drinking wine on my free days.

> > I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this board.

> >

> > Daily Menu

> > M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

> > M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

> > M3-Raylene's jello

> > M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made

> with flax

> > oil.

> > M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

> >

> > This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

> > Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

> > But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

> >

> > Is all the dairy a bad thing?

> > I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy. Called it

> WHITE

> > DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy products.

> I was

> > told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical

> messages to

> > the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

> > Is this true???

> > Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

> >

> > I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff

> nondairy

> > creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that

> have to go?

> >

> > Please give feedback & any suggestions.

> > And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

> > Sorry this was sooo long.

> > Amethyst

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sheryll,

I don't care where my weight is I just want the fat to go away. I could

weigh 140 & be thrilled if I was losing inches.And I don't actually know how

MUCH fat I have to lose. It just looks to me like 10 LBS! It is all in my

legs & stomach.

Thanks for your input.

Amethyst

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

> At 5'7 & 125 you are deffinately not not 10 lbs overweight.

> 125 I believe is the lowest you should be for your height.

> I'm 5'7 & my goal is 135, any less & my face gets to thin

> looking. But if 115 is where you think you need to be, good

> luck getting there. Sorry, no advice on how. Just wanted to

> remind you 115 is pretty low.

>

> Sheryll

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Hi,

> > Gotta tell you I love this board!

> > You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

> > I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10 Pounds " .

> > I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

> > I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my

> lower ab.

> > I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not

> losing inches

> > anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

> > I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose

> inches...I want to

> > wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

> >

> > I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

> > I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure

> thighs,knees, calves

> > & ankles. No change.

> > No change in waist-still 26 " .

> >

> > I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls who

> started

> > out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing

> suit. Why

> > can't I do that?!

> >

> > What do I need to do different???

> > I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every

> workout.

> > I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

> > I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I will,

> but I

> > honestly don't want to.

> > But, if it will help I will.

> >

> > I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad

> higher in

> > protein than carbs.

> >

> > I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free

> meal. I have

> > been drinking wine on my free days.

> > I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this

> board.

> >

> > Daily Menu

> > M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

> > M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

> > M3-Raylene's jello

> > M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made

> with flax

> > oil.

> > M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

> >

> > This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

> > Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

> > But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

> >

> > Is all the dairy a bad thing?

> > I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy. Called

> it WHITE

> > DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy

> products. I was

> > told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical

> messages to

> > the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

> > Is this true???

> > Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

> >

> > I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff

> nondairy

> > creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that

> have to go?

> >

> > Please give feedback & any suggestions.

> > And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

> > Sorry this was sooo long.

> > Amethyst

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 5'7 & 125 you are deffinately not not 10 lbs overweight.

125 I believe is the lowest you should be for your height.

I'm 5'7 & my goal is 135, any less & my face gets to thin

looking. But if 115 is where you think you need to be, good

luck getting there. Sorry, no advice on how. Just wanted to

remind you 115 is pretty low.

Sheryll

> Hi,

> Gotta tell you I love this board!

> You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

> I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10 Pounds " .

> I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

> I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my

lower ab.

> I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not

losing inches

> anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

> I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose

inches...I want to

> wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

>

> I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

> I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure

thighs,knees, calves

> & ankles. No change.

> No change in waist-still 26 " .

>

> I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls who

started

> out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing

suit. Why

> can't I do that?!

>

> What do I need to do different???

> I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every

workout.

> I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

> I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I will,

but I

> honestly don't want to.

> But, if it will help I will.

>

> I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad

higher in

> protein than carbs.

>

> I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free

meal. I have

> been drinking wine on my free days.

> I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this

board.

>

> Daily Menu

> M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

> M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

> M3-Raylene's jello

> M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made

with flax

> oil.

> M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

>

> This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

> Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

> But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

>

> Is all the dairy a bad thing?

> I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy. Called

it WHITE

> DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy

products. I was

> told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical

messages to

> the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

> Is this true???

> Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

>

> I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff

nondairy

> creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that

have to go?

>

> Please give feedback & any suggestions.

> And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

> Sorry this was sooo long.

> Amethyst

[Guest guest]

Amethyst-

I feel your pain girl!!! I started out on BFL thinking I only had an extra 10

pounds to lose and this would work for me in 12 weeks. I NEVER cheated or

anything during the week, did had a FREE day once a week and NEVER missed a

workout. So I don't understand either how some people started out with more to

lose than me and look alot better than I do after a challenge. All I did now

was come to the realization that I am going to just be happy where I am at now.

I dont' obsess over food anymore. I don't care if I feel like sneaking a cookie

anymore but I still hit my 10's on my workouts and cardio. Have you measured

your body fat? I'm sure you;ve lost some fat, I know mine went down at least

5% but I'm not exactly sure what my percentage is. But as for the dairy, I

heard what you heard and do try to cut that out as much as I can, and clean up

my carbs a little. Just like corn or carrots or something as a carb rather than

bread or rice or whatever. You said you only ate like 5 meals! If you're

already 125 I'm sure you dont' have much to lose weight wise, I think you should

focus more on eating more and building more muscle. AS for your menu I'm not

sure whats in the jello, but is it balanced with carbs and protien? With your

salad, what kind of lots of veggies? I know that with some veggies, you'd have

to eat alot of them to make that your carb. Then for meal 5 you need to add a

carb to that too. then you'd need a 6th meal too. I hate sounding like oh you

need to do this and you need to do that, but if you really want to do it the BFL

way thats the way it goes.... But I think it would really help to balance out

your meals more though. Just my opinion! Try not to focus on weight too much

if I were you....

I'm 5'5 and weigh 150 and I wish I weighed 140!!! But the way I figure is I'm

just going to focus on building (not HUGE building) and keep up my eating. Just

roll with it and I know that eventually we'll get the results we want, and

chances are it's going to take more than one challenge to do it! Keep it up!

~kimmah

Help on losing the last 10 LBS

Hi,

Gotta tell you I love this board!

You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10 Pounds " .

I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my lower ab.

I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not losing inches

anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose inches...I want to

wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure thighs,knees, calves

& ankles. No change.

No change in waist-still 26 " .

I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls who started

out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing suit. Why

can't I do that?!

What do I need to do different???

I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every workout.

I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I will, but I

honestly don't want to.

But, if it will help I will.

I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad higher in

protein than carbs.

I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free meal. I have

been drinking wine on my free days.

I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this board.

Daily Menu

M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

M3-Raylene's jello

M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made with flax

oil.

M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

Is all the dairy a bad thing?

I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy. Called it WHITE

DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy products. I was

told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical messages to

the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

Is this true???

Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff nondairy

creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that have to go?

Please give feedback & any suggestions.

And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

Sorry this was sooo long.

Amethyst

[Guest guest]

Amethyst,

Read hussman and see what he says. But, if you gain lean mass your

body fat will be lower even if you gain a couple lbs. It will be

muscle. Remember that muscle weighs more than fat and looks 100%

better.

Becky

> > > Hi,

> > > Gotta tell you I love this board!

> > > You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

> > > I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10

Pounds " .

> > > I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

> > > I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my

> > lower ab.

> > > I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not

losing

> > inches

> > > anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

> > > I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose

> > inches...I want to

> > > wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

> > >

> > > I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

> > > I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure

> > thighs,knees, calves

> > > & ankles. No change.

> > > No change in waist-still 26 " .

> > >

> > > I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls

who

> > started

> > > out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing

suit.

> > Why

> > > can't I do that?!

> > >

> > > What do I need to do different???

> > > I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every

workout.

> > > I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

> > > I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I

will,

> > but I

> > > honestly don't want to.

> > > But, if it will help I will.

> > >

> > > I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad

> > higher in

> > > protein than carbs.

> > >

> > > I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free

> > meal. I have

> > > been drinking wine on my free days.

> > > I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this

board.

> > >

> > > Daily Menu

> > > M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

> > > M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

> > > M3-Raylene's jello

> > > M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made

> > with flax

> > > oil.

> > > M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

> > >

> > > This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

> > > Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

> > > But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

> > >

> > > Is all the dairy a bad thing?

> > > I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy.

Called it

> > WHITE

> > > DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy

products.

> > I was

> > > told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical

> > messages to

> > > the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

> > > Is this true???

> > > Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

> > >

> > > I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff

> > nondairy

> > > creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that

> > have to go?

> > >

> > > Please give feedback & any suggestions.

> > > And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

> > > Sorry this was sooo long.

> > > Amethyst

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't like to post on this subject because I'm battling the final

10lbs myself, so I'm not there yet. Having said that...

You do NOT need to lose 10lbs scale weight. I think you understand

that. Fat is big and puffy and takes up lots of room, so I severely

doubt that you need to lose 10lbs of fat either. Probably only a

couple. 16% bf is low already.... so....

Your lean mass is quite low. Go to the Hussman site again and figure

your calories and suchlike around muscle gain rather than fat loss.

The only way you are going to get rid of those last few pounds is to

make your body into a bigger furnace (more lean muscle tissue = more

calories burned). At the moment, your calories are at the minimum for

survival. You will never build muscle with so few calories and

unless you build muscle, your body is going to hang on to that fat

for dear life, because it thinks you're starving it.

I know it's slow, I know it's frustrating, but go to 's site and

have a look at some of her articles. Particularily the ones about 14

lbs of muscle... or whatever she called it. Very helpful.

You CAN do this, but you need to start eating, and lifting heavy. I

know you're putting the weights up, and that's great, but are you at

the kind of weight where you have to drop it on the floor on the 11th

or 12th rep! That's muscle failure. Could you do more? You might be

surprised.

I don't generally believe in more cardio. " Activity " is good

though. Walk the dog, play with the toddler, do cartwheels in the

garden, whatever .

> I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day.

Ouch I'd die.

> Daily Menu

> M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

> M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

> M3-Raylene's jello

> M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made

with flax

> oil.

> M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

I definitely would get some other options. Cottage cheese is high in

sodium and that causes water retention. Coffee is caffeinated and

that causes water retention. Now that I think about it, this could be

one of your problems... I gave up coca-cola three weeks ago and

dropped 3.5 bloaty water retention pounds in one week. I looked

better even though it wasn't fat loss.

You need a carb with meals 4 and 5. If you don't have the energy

(carbs) to run your body through the night, then your body

cannibalizes your muscles... Bye bye muscle, bye bye fatburning.

Phoenix

[Guest guest]

Hi Amethyst,

The last few pounds are hard! I started BFL 18 weeks ago at 5'5 " and 133 and now

I am 124-126-ish but my body fat has dropped. from 24-ish to 17-ish. The reason

I say " -ish " is because I am using an onlline calculator and I am keeping in

mind the margin of error. I still have a little tummy going (although it has

diminished slowly since the beginning ) and some fat on my thighs. The rest of

me is pretty lean. The dramatic transofrmations you see are of people who had

more weight to lose at the start. What method are you using for your bodyfat

calculations?

If you are 5'7 and 125 lbs at 16% then you don't have much room to move. Right

now you have 105lb of lean and 20lbs of " other " For you to lose 10lbs you are

going to have to lose significant lean weight (ie. muscle) . For example if you

were 115 and at the same lean weight, you would be at less than 10% bodyfat,

which is unhealthy for long periods of time and insane to get to!! If you are

trying to firm up you lower body, then I would suggest gaining some lean weight.

It will happen! Get over the scale part of it and keep working hard on your

workouts. At your weight and bodyfat progress is really slow! People can take

months to put on a few pounds of lean weight! As a runner myself, I can tell

you that running alone will not tone your legs. The weights are what is going to

do that!

Have you taken a look at some of the great looking fitness models? The ones who

weigh what you want to weigh are about 5 or 6 inches shorter than you! The ones

at your height weigh more than you do now!

Looking at your menu, I would suggest that you could be eating a bit more!

Especially to gain muscle and tone. Each meal should have a carb and a protein.

I am 2 " shorter than you and I eat about 1800 calories a day! You really need

that meal 6 in the evening and your carb at meals 4 and 5. I don't know what is

in Raylene's jello, but I seem to remember it is balanced. Try some potaotes,

rice, oatmeal! My favourite night time meal is oatmeal and cottage cheese. I

sprinkle sweetener and cinnamon on the oatmeal. I usually have this about an

hour before bed.

Anyway, this is just my two cents! Take it with a grain of salt! There are

others here who know a lot more than I do - but I do know the struggle of the

last 10 pounds!

Laurie

C2D40

Help on losing the last 10 LBS

Hi,

Gotta tell you I love this board!

You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10 Pounds " .

I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my lower ab.

I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not losing inches

anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose inches...I want to

wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure thighs,knees, calves

& ankles. No change.

No change in waist-still 26 " .

I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls who started

out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing suit. Why

can't I do that?!

What do I need to do different???

I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every workout.

I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I will, but I

honestly don't want to.

But, if it will help I will.

I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad higher in

protein than carbs.

I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free meal. I have

been drinking wine on my free days.

I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this board.

Daily Menu

M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

M3-Raylene's jello

M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made with flax

oil.

M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

Is all the dairy a bad thing?

I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy. Called it WHITE

DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy products. I was

told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical messages to

the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

Is this true???

Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff nondairy

creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that have to go?

Please give feedback & any suggestions.

And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

Sorry this was sooo long.

Amethyst

[Guest guest]

This is my thought,

I agree with the post that said 115 pounds on a 5'7 " frame would be

very, very thin. Secondly, after looking over your menu, I also

believe you're not eating enough. I think you're putting your body

into starvation mode. If you take in too few calories, your body is

going to think it's starving and hold every thing you take in as fat,

making it almost impossible to lose. Just wondering if you've posted

a picture, because I'm almost sure you look absolutely wonderful.

Further, it's common for you to pick on little things on your own

body and see them as flawed. Where as someone else looks at those

with envy. 125 pounds and 5'7 " , I'll take your " fat legs " anyday

over mine :-) Try not to be too critical of your body!

Jill

[Guest guest]

Everybody has already made good suggestions. I agree that a large part of your

problem lies in the fact that you're barely eating enough to keep a cricket

alive. :-)

You're not taking in enough calories and carbs right now to gain or even

maintain your muscle mass. Muscle is the key to changing the shape of your body.

That's what will make you look incredible in a bathing suit. Just losing 10

pounds on the scale won't help you any, particularly when you don't have 10

pounds left to lose. See some of my mad ramblings about " Starvation and Flab " or

" 14 Pounds of Muscle. "

http://skwigg.tripod.com/wow/id24.html

If you want specific suggestions, I would start by following BFL to the letter.

It's designed to maximize fat loss while maintaining or gaining muscle. You're

not actually doing it right now. You're eating 5 meals and only 2 of them have

authorized carbs. Milk isn't an authorized food. There are 24 grams of sugar in

the 2 cups of milk you're adding to your protein shake. You'd be a lot better

off eating old fashioned oatmeal, berries, cantaloupe, or even whole wheat bread

as your carb portion there. Meals 2 and 3 are ok. Meal 4 would be GREAT if there

were a carb. Throw some beans in the salad and you're happening. Meal 5 needs an

apple or something. Meal 6 just needs to exist. :-)

It seems like you're scared of carbs, but the key to the program is getting all

six meals in and balancing them with healthy, high-fiber carbs like beans, oats,

berries, sweet potatoes, whole wheat pasta, wild rice... you get the idea. Right

now you're either lacking a carb altogether or it's one with quite a bit of

sugar (milk, processed fruit). Branch out. Try some new combos. You'll be amazed

at how much better your muscles look when they're filled out instead of

starving. Legs especially. Legs tend to be soft and jiggly on women. Developing

strong, muscular quads and hamstrings pulls the flab tight if nothing else. LOL

Help on losing the last 10 LBS

Hi,

Gotta tell you I love this board!

You girls are great & keep me so motivated.

I need advice from those of you who have lost " The Last 10 Pounds " .

I'm in week10 & I've not seen much results.

I've lost no scale weight & the only inches I lost was 1 " off my lower ab.

I'm happy about THAT but I lost 3/4 of it by week 3. I'm not losing inches

anywhere else & my clothes still fit the same.

I don't care about scale weight, but I did expect to lose inches...I want to

wear a bathing suit by June.I want toned legs by summer!!!!

I'm 5.7, 125 lbs.,16%BF

I have a tummy pouch & fat legs upper & lower.I measure thighs,knees, calves

& ankles. No change.

No change in waist-still 26 " .

I've looked in the poster girls folders & there are many girls who started

out bigger than me & ended up looking incredible in a bathing suit. Why

can't I do that?!

What do I need to do different???

I work hard in the weight room, I increase my weights every workout.

I work hard on my runs, I increase my distance every run.

I only run 3x a week. If I HAVE to run more thru the week I will, but I

honestly don't want to.

But, if it will help I will.

I keep my calories at 1150 - 1250 a day. They tend to run a tad higher in

protein than carbs.

I don't cheat & I take moderate free days. Usually just a free meal. I have

been drinking wine on my free days.

I gave it up 2 weeks ago because of the links posted on this board.

Daily Menu

M1- Protein shake with 2cup skim milk

M2-1cup Cottage Cheese w/ 1 cup frozen mixed fruit

M3-Raylene's jello

M4-Huge Salad w/ lots of vegs, Salmon or Chicken & dressing made with flax

oil.

M5- 3/4 a cup of CC

This is pretty much what I eat every day. I like routine.

Makes it easy for me to stay on track.

But I'm not really getting any kind of zig-zag effect.

Is all the dairy a bad thing?

I read on someones transformation that she gave up dairy. Called it WHITE

DEATH " (white sugar; white flour products; msg; and dairy products. I was

told that for women particularly, these tend to send chemical messages to

the body to store fuel rather than burn it.) "

Is this true???

Would it help if I gave up dairy? 4 of my meals contain it.

I also drink several cups of regular coffee a day. I use ff nondairy

creamer in it. I love my coffee.Can't drink it plain. Does that have to go?

Please give feedback & any suggestions.

And if you've lost the last 10 please tell me how you did it.

Sorry this was sooo long.

Amethyst

[Guest guest]

Thank you to every one who replied to me:

Becky, Sheryll, Jill, Kimmah, Phoenix, Laurie, Lorraine & .

I really appreciate the input!

And I get it... I need to eat more.

And I need to increase my lean muscle mass.

I will read Hussman & 's articles later today when I have more time.

On eating more.. how much more?

If I take my weight (125) & multiply it by 8 or 10 (as was posted on this

board recently) I get 1000 or 1250.

I think at Hussmans my BMR was 1300ish.

And I eat every 3 hours: 7, 10,1, 4, 7.

I'm in bed by 8:30. To get in 6 meals I would have to eat every 2.5 hours.

Is that what ya'll do? Is that too close together?

I thought milk was an authorized carb:(

What can I replace it with? I like a shake as my first meal. But I don't

like it with just whey & water. How can I doctor it up or do girls just

drink it plain?

I have choc. myoplex but I don't much like it.

Can you reccomend other meal replacement shakes that are good?

I will add more carbs in.

Is my frozen fruit bad?

Ya know , I thought I had been doing really well on the food part. Thank you

for your perspective.

I did start out today good. I choked down a myoplex shake for my first meal.

Yuck,yuck yuck!

I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

Thanks,

Amethyst

[Guest guest]

Hi Amethyst,

I know what you mean about the shakes. What I do is this (I use a protein shake

that has more protein than carbs) I balance the carbs out by adding frozen fruit

and I blend it all together with water an a few ice cubes. It comes out really

thick and yummy this way. I use MY-X40 in a variety fo flavours. The vanilla

flavour is really yummy with frozen peaches and a cap full almond flavouring in

it.

In terms of eating times, most days I eat my meals spaced 2-2.5 hours apart.

Hussman's numbers are just an esitmate, although a pretty good one for most

people. Just rmeember you are burning a lot of calories doing the BFL workouts

and your body needs more fuel! I would not worry about the calories and just get

your protein and carb in. But that's just my opinion!

Your frozen fruit is not bad, as long as it isn't sweetened! Fruit is a great

carb. Just make sure you don't eat too big of a serving. Sometimes it is easy to

eat too much when you are scooping it out of a bag or container as opposed to

just picking up a whole piece of fruit.

Laurie

C2D43

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

Thank you to every one who replied to me:

Becky, Sheryll, Jill, Kimmah, Phoenix, Laurie, Lorraine & .

I really appreciate the input!

And I get it... I need to eat more.

And I need to increase my lean muscle mass.

I will read Hussman & 's articles later today when I have more time.

On eating more.. how much more?

If I take my weight (125) & multiply it by 8 or 10 (as was posted on this

board recently) I get 1000 or 1250.

I think at Hussmans my BMR was 1300ish.

And I eat every 3 hours: 7, 10,1, 4, 7.

I'm in bed by 8:30. To get in 6 meals I would have to eat every 2.5 hours.

Is that what ya'll do? Is that too close together?

I thought milk was an authorized carb:(

What can I replace it with? I like a shake as my first meal. But I don't

like it with just whey & water. How can I doctor it up or do girls just

drink it plain?

I have choc. myoplex but I don't much like it.

Can you reccomend other meal replacement shakes that are good?

I will add more carbs in.

Is my frozen fruit bad?

Ya know , I thought I had been doing really well on the food part. Thank you

for your perspective.

I did start out today good. I choked down a myoplex shake for my first meal.

Yuck,yuck yuck!

I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

Thanks,

Amethyst

[Guest guest]

You don't have any scale weight left to lose, so you can't multiply by 8-10.

Multiply by 12-15. That would give you 1,500-1,875.

I eat every hour sometimes. :-) 2.5 to 3 hours is about the longest I go.

Milk isn't on the list. A splash of it here and there is no big deal, but I

really wouldn't down 2 cups of it at once if you're trying to follow the book.

There are better choices. If you have a blender, protein shakes with frozen

berries are tasty. I've seen some other recipes that use yogurt and other fruit.

My big test of protein powder is that they have to taste good alone in water. It

might be as easy as trying a different brand. I like EAS Simply Whey and

sometimes Designer. Optimum makes me spit. Nitro-Tech is alright but it's almost

too sweet. Maybe you could wean yourself off the milk by making the shake with 1

cup of milk and 1 cup water. Then half cup of milk, 1.5 cups water, etc.

Make sure you're making the Myoplex right. One false move and you've got warm,

lumpy cake batter. Use A LOT of very cold water, get all the lumps out of it,

and add some fruit if you need to. Frozen cherries are great in chocolate.

http://skwigg.tripod.com/wow/id25.html . I haven't had many other meal

replacement brands lately. I did have a chocolate Isopure (powder packet) the

other day and it was really tasty.

Frozen fruit isn't bad as long as it's not sweetened. Fresh fruit gives you a

lot more options and variety though.

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

Thank you to every one who replied to me:

Becky, Sheryll, Jill, Kimmah, Phoenix, Laurie, Lorraine & .

I really appreciate the input!

And I get it... I need to eat more.

And I need to increase my lean muscle mass.

I will read Hussman & 's articles later today when I have more time.

On eating more.. how much more?

If I take my weight (125) & multiply it by 8 or 10 (as was posted on this

board recently) I get 1000 or 1250.

I think at Hussmans my BMR was 1300ish.

And I eat every 3 hours: 7, 10,1, 4, 7.

I'm in bed by 8:30. To get in 6 meals I would have to eat every 2.5 hours.

Is that what ya'll do? Is that too close together?

I thought milk was an authorized carb:(

What can I replace it with? I like a shake as my first meal. But I don't

like it with just whey & water. How can I doctor it up or do girls just

drink it plain?

I have choc. myoplex but I don't much like it.

Can you reccomend other meal replacement shakes that are good?

I will add more carbs in.

Is my frozen fruit bad?

Ya know , I thought I had been doing really well on the food part. Thank you

for your perspective.

I did start out today good. I choked down a myoplex shake for my first meal.

Yuck,yuck yuck!

I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

Thanks,

Amethyst

[Guest guest]

I'll add comments below:

Hope this helps. Look at your auth food list again too.

Becky

> Thank you to every one who replied to me:

> Becky, Sheryll, Jill, Kimmah, Phoenix, Laurie, Lorraine & .

> I really appreciate the input!

> And I get it... I need to eat more.

> And I need to increase my lean muscle mass.

> I will read Hussman & 's articles later today when I have more

time.

>

> On eating more.. how much more?

> If I take my weight (125) & multiply it by 8 or 10 (as was posted

on this

> board recently) I get 1000 or 1250.

> I think at Hussmans my BMR was 1300ish.

***I believe Hussman's site will tell you how much to eat to gain

muscle. Try and eat somewhere in that range. I try and eat between

the high end of the fat loss cal range and the low end of the muscle

building range, since I'm within a few lbs of my goal. I'm still

losing about 1lb of fat a week, which is fine by me.

>

> And I eat every 3 hours: 7, 10,1, 4, 7.

> I'm in bed by 8:30. To get in 6 meals I would have to eat every 2.5

hours.

> Is that what ya'll do? Is that too close together?

***You sleep 10.5 hrs/night?! Wow! Maybe you could add half portion

of carb/protein to a couple meals? That will equal 6 meals.

>

> I thought milk was an authorized carb:(

> What can I replace it with? I like a shake as my first meal. But I

don't

> like it with just whey & water. How can I doctor it up or do girls

just

> drink it plain?

***I like to blend an orange (carb), a little vanilla, 2pks splenda,

a little ice/water. Like an orange smoothie-yummy and it's a

complete meal. or I occasionally add a packet of Swiss Miss

ff/sugfree cocoa to it if I'm craving chocolate. (be sure and eat a

carb with this one) I've been trying to eat more real food lately

though.

> I have choc. myoplex but I don't much like it.

> Can you reccomend other meal replacement shakes that are good?

>

> I will add more carbs in.

> Is my frozen fruit bad?

***Limit the frozen fruit to once/day, since it is probably high-

glycemic.

> Ya know , I thought I had been doing really well on the food part.

Thank you

> for your perspective.

***You're doing great! Just need a little " fine-tuning " . We're all

here to help each other:)

>

> I did start out today good. I choked down a myoplex shake for my

first meal.

> Yuck,yuck yuck!

>

> I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

>

> Thanks,

> Amethyst

[Guest guest]

Hi Amethyst,

Have you found any good meal replacement shakes yet? This morning I

tried to drink the chocolate myoplex lite shake (which I thought I

liked)...i ended up almost gagging! So I am on a quest to find a

good shake.

Is it possible to buy protein powder and mix it w/ skim milk(carb) to

make it a full " meal " ?

[Guest guest]

I'm just going to butt right in here Skim milk isn't authorised, so it

wouldn't be a good choice. You can add fruit to it to make it taste better

(blend it). Apparently, there *are* shakes that taste good mixed with water.

Temperature is really important, with colder being better. Even blending in a

few ice cubes can make a huge difference. Or a cap of vanilla, almond, or

whatever flavouring. A good one is to add a cap of peppermint flavour to a

chocolate shake. It's not bad. mentioned a good one this morning - frozen

unsweetened cherries in a chocolate shake (I've got to try that one!). I also

like peaches in a vanilla shake with some almond thown in.

Laurie

C2D43

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

Hi Amethyst,

Have you found any good meal replacement shakes yet? This morning I

tried to drink the chocolate myoplex lite shake (which I thought I

liked)...i ended up almost gagging! So I am on a quest to find a

good shake.

Is it possible to buy protein powder and mix it w/ skim milk(carb) to

make it a full " meal " ?

[Guest guest]

ohh..i didn't know that...hmm...i will definitely try the fruit.

Laurie do you know of any good protein powders that work well w/ ice

water?

[Guest guest]

Someone recommended JayRobb's protein back in January. I've still

got a supply of Myo lite from other challenges that I didn't

complete. I've got it on my list of things I want to try though.

Just do a web search for Jay Robb and it should come up.

debra

> ohh..i didn't know that...hmm...i will definitely try the fruit.

> Laurie do you know of any good protein powders that work well w/

ice

> water?

[Guest guest]

If you are following BFL " by the book " , milk is not on the authorized

list. I mix the pro powder w/water and an orange or other auth

fruit/carb.

Becky

> Hi Amethyst,

> Have you found any good meal replacement shakes yet? This morning

I

> tried to drink the chocolate myoplex lite shake (which I thought I

> liked)...i ended up almost gagging! So I am on a quest to find a

> good shake.

> Is it possible to buy protein powder and mix it w/ skim milk(carb)

to

> make it a full " meal " ?

[Guest guest]

Hi Becky,

Nooo!! I wish I slept 10.5 hrs a night!! I could easily!!

I get 7-8 usually. It's always my goal to be in bed by 8:30

but it's usually around 9ish. We have a 10 yr. old & a 1 yr. old.

I get up at 5am on run days, I make my hubby breakfast then get my run

5:30 - 6:00, wait an hour to eat - it's 7am.

We get up at 4am on lift days & lift from 4-5. Then I make him breakfast & I

was still waiting an hour to eat cause I read on Hussman or somewhere that

if you wanted to burn the most fat to wait an hour even after lifting cause

your body had to pull calories from somewhere & it might as well be from

your fat stores.

But I know better now. I know I want to build MAJOR muscle, so I drank my

Protein shake(made with fruit & WATER) right after my workout. See you girls

are such a good influence on me!!

And you've suggested I look at the authorized food list again & I will as

soon as I get my book back! That book has probably been loaned out to about

10 different people. DH wanted to change up my workouts & asked that I get

the book back. I called the girl who had it & a week later she dropped it

off at a mutual friends, who called to say she had it , but could she keep

it for a while to read???? Soooo, I'm still without it!

And hey, thank you for your help.

This board is so great!

Amethyst

***You sleep 10.5 hrs/night?! Wow! Maybe you could add half portion

> of carb/protein to a couple meals? That will equal 6 meals.

> >

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

> I'll add comments below:

> Hope this helps. Look at your auth food list again too.

> Becky

>

>

> > Thank you to every one who replied to me:

> > Becky, Sheryll, Jill, Kimmah, Phoenix, Laurie, Lorraine & .

> > I really appreciate the input!

> > And I get it... I need to eat more.

> > And I need to increase my lean muscle mass.

> > I will read Hussman & 's articles later today when I have more

> time.

> >

> > On eating more.. how much more?

> > If I take my weight (125) & multiply it by 8 or 10 (as was posted

> on this

> > board recently) I get 1000 or 1250.

> > I think at Hussmans my BMR was 1300ish.

> ***I believe Hussman's site will tell you how much to eat to gain

> muscle. Try and eat somewhere in that range. I try and eat between

> the high end of the fat loss cal range and the low end of the muscle

> building range, since I'm within a few lbs of my goal. I'm still

> losing about 1lb of fat a week, which is fine by me.

>

> >

> > And I eat every 3 hours: 7, 10,1, 4, 7.

> > I'm in bed by 8:30. To get in 6 meals I would have to eat every 2.5

> hours.

> > Is that what ya'll do? Is that too close together?

> ***You sleep 10.5 hrs/night?! Wow! Maybe you could add half portion

> of carb/protein to a couple meals? That will equal 6 meals.

> >

> > I thought milk was an authorized carb:(

> > What can I replace it with? I like a shake as my first meal. But I

> don't

> > like it with just whey & water. How can I doctor it up or do girls

> just

> > drink it plain?

> ***I like to blend an orange (carb), a little vanilla, 2pks splenda,

> a little ice/water. Like an orange smoothie-yummy and it's a

> complete meal. or I occasionally add a packet of Swiss Miss

> ff/sugfree cocoa to it if I'm craving chocolate. (be sure and eat a

> carb with this one) I've been trying to eat more real food lately

> though.

> > I have choc. myoplex but I don't much like it.

> > Can you reccomend other meal replacement shakes that are good?

> >

> > I will add more carbs in.

> > Is my frozen fruit bad?

> ***Limit the frozen fruit to once/day, since it is probably high-

> glycemic.

> > Ya know , I thought I had been doing really well on the food part.

> Thank you

> > for your perspective.

>

> ***You're doing great! Just need a little " fine-tuning " . We're all

> here to help each other:)

> >

> > I did start out today good. I choked down a myoplex shake for my

> first meal.

> > Yuck,yuck yuck!

> >

> > I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Amethyst

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for clearing up that scale weight & multiplying thing for me. That

was an Aha! moment.

>You don't have any scale weight left to lose, so you can't multiply by

8-10.

> Multiply by 12-15. That would give you 1,500-1,875.

>

And those were great ideas about the shakes that never occured to me... I

didn't realize different wheys would taste different with water. Duh! Our

small sports store stocks Simply Whey

or Optimum, usually Optimum. We haven't had Simply Whey in a long time. I'll

order some & try it.

I read your 14 LBS of muscle. It's a good article.

And your Pics are great! That's what I want to look like in a bikini!

I'd be quite pleased to look like your BEFORE pic - no tummy!

Thanks again,

Amethyst

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

>

>

> Thank you to every one who replied to me:

> Becky, Sheryll, Jill, Kimmah, Phoenix, Laurie, Lorraine & .

> I really appreciate the input!

> And I get it... I need to eat more.

> And I need to increase my lean muscle mass.

> I will read Hussman & 's articles later today when I have more time.

>

> On eating more.. how much more?

> If I take my weight (125) & multiply it by 8 or 10 (as was posted on this

> board recently) I get 1000 or 1250.

> I think at Hussmans my BMR was 1300ish.

>

> And I eat every 3 hours: 7, 10,1, 4, 7.

> I'm in bed by 8:30. To get in 6 meals I would have to eat every 2.5 hours.

> Is that what ya'll do? Is that too close together?

>

> I thought milk was an authorized carb:(

> What can I replace it with? I like a shake as my first meal. But I don't

> like it with just whey & water. How can I doctor it up or do girls just

> drink it plain?

> I have choc. myoplex but I don't much like it.

> Can you reccomend other meal replacement shakes that are good?

>

> I will add more carbs in.

> Is my frozen fruit bad?

> Ya know , I thought I had been doing really well on the food part. Thank

you

> for your perspective.

>

> I did start out today good. I choked down a myoplex shake for my first

meal.

> Yuck,yuck yuck!

>

> I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

>

> Thanks,

> Amethyst

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie,

I made your Peach Shake this morning. It was really yummy!

Thanks for the help,

Amethyst

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

>

>

> Thank you to every one who replied to me:

> Becky, Sheryll, Jill, Kimmah, Phoenix, Laurie, Lorraine & .

> I really appreciate the input!

> And I get it... I need to eat more.

> And I need to increase my lean muscle mass.

> I will read Hussman & 's articles later today when I have more

time.

>

> On eating more.. how much more?

> If I take my weight (125) & multiply it by 8 or 10 (as was posted on

this

> board recently) I get 1000 or 1250.

> I think at Hussmans my BMR was 1300ish.

>

> And I eat every 3 hours: 7, 10,1, 4, 7.

> I'm in bed by 8:30. To get in 6 meals I would have to eat every 2.5

hours.

> Is that what ya'll do? Is that too close together?

>

> I thought milk was an authorized carb:(

> What can I replace it with? I like a shake as my first meal. But I don't

> like it with just whey & water. How can I doctor it up or do girls just

> drink it plain?

> I have choc. myoplex but I don't much like it.

> Can you reccomend other meal replacement shakes that are good?

>

> I will add more carbs in.

> Is my frozen fruit bad?

> Ya know , I thought I had been doing really well on the food part. Thank

you

> for your perspective.

>

> I did start out today good. I choked down a myoplex shake for my first

meal.

> Yuck,yuck yuck!

>

> I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

>

> Thanks,

> Amethyst

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Debra!

Amethyst

Re: Help on losing the last 10 LBS

> Someone recommended JayRobb's protein back in January. I've still

> got a supply of Myo lite from other challenges that I didn't

> complete. I've got it on my list of things I want to try though.

> Just do a web search for Jay Robb and it should come up.

>

> debra

>

>

> > ohh..i didn't know that...hmm...i will definitely try the fruit.

> > Laurie do you know of any good protein powders that work well w/

> ice

> > water?

>

>

>