Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Oops-- http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/specialneeds/editorial_1572.shtm From: FireRose [mailto:FireRose@...] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:40 AM 'Gem Bordages'; 'UpsAndDowns' Subject: RE: Air or bus? Interesting question. You probably should talk to someone at your airport to find out what will be required before you go or even buy tickets since what I'm hearing is that no one is exempted. Here's what TSA has about searches of children with da: Parents or guardians of children with disabilities should... * Inform the Security Officer if the child has any special needs or medical devices. * Inform the Security Officer if you think the child may become upset during the screening process as a result of their disability. * Offer suggestions on how to best accomplish the screening to minimize any confusion or outburst for the child. * Ask the Security Officer for assistance during the process by helping you put your and the child's carry-on items on the X-ray belt. * Know that at no time during the screening process will you be separated from your child. * Know that if a private screening is required, you should escort and remain with your child during the private screening process. * Tell the Security Officer what are your child's abilities are. For example: can the child stand slightly away from equipment to be handwanded, walk through the metal detector, or needs to be carried through the metal detector by the parent/guardian. * Know that at no time should the Security Officer remove your child from his/her mobility aid (wheelchair or scooter). You are responsible for removing your child from his/her equipment at your discretion to accomplish screening. * Know that if your child is unable to walk or stand, the Security Officer will conduct a pat-down search of your child while he/she remains in their mobility aid, as well as a visual and physical inspection of their equipment. Judi From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gem Bordages Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:23 AM UpsAndDowns Subject: Air or bus? (37, DS) and I are planning a trip to Denver. In the past we have flown, but I do not want her subjected to what amounts to sexual molestation when we pass through security. Have any of you traveled by air lately with your child or adult who has DS? If so, how did you handle it? granny -- *Not for ourselves, but for the world were we born.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Interesting question. You probably should talk to someone at your airport to find out what will be required before you go or even buy tickets since what I'm hearing is that no one is exempted. Here's what TSA has about searches of children with da: Parents or guardians of children with disabilities should... * Inform the Security Officer if the child has any special needs or medical devices. * Inform the Security Officer if you think the child may become upset during the screening process as a result of their disability. * Offer suggestions on how to best accomplish the screening to minimize any confusion or outburst for the child. * Ask the Security Officer for assistance during the process by helping you put your and the child's carry-on items on the X-ray belt. * Know that at no time during the screening process will you be separated from your child. * Know that if a private screening is required, you should escort and remain with your child during the private screening process. * Tell the Security Officer what are your child's abilities are. For example: can the child stand slightly away from equipment to be handwanded, walk through the metal detector, or needs to be carried through the metal detector by the parent/guardian. * Know that at no time should the Security Officer remove your child from his/her mobility aid (wheelchair or scooter). You are responsible for removing your child from his/her equipment at your discretion to accomplish screening. * Know that if your child is unable to walk or stand, the Security Officer will conduct a pat-down search of your child while he/she remains in their mobility aid, as well as a visual and physical inspection of their equipment. Judi From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gem Bordages Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:23 AM UpsAndDowns Subject: Air or bus? (37, DS) and I are planning a trip to Denver. In the past we have flown, but I do not want her subjected to what amounts to sexual molestation when we pass through security. Have any of you traveled by air lately with your child or adult who has DS? If so, how did you handle it? granny -- *Not for ourselves, but for the world were we born.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Do you notice that cognitive disabilities are not listed here? On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:40 AM, FireRose wrote: > Oops-- > http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/specialneeds/editorial_1572.shtm > > From: FireRose [mailto:FireRose@...] > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:40 AM > 'Gem Bordages'; 'UpsAndDowns' > Subject: RE: Air or bus? > > Interesting question. You probably should talk to someone at your airport to > find out what will be required before you go or even buy tickets since what > I'm hearing is that no one is exempted. Here's what TSA has about searches > of children with da: > > Parents or guardians of children with disabilities should... > > * Inform the Security Officer if the child has any special needs or > medical devices. > * Inform the Security Officer if you think the child may become upset > during the screening process as a result of their disability. > * Offer suggestions on how to best accomplish the screening to > minimize any confusion or outburst for the child. > * Ask the Security Officer for assistance during the process by > helping you put your and the child's carry-on items on the X-ray belt. > * Know that at no time during the screening process will you be > separated from your child. > * Know that if a private screening is required, you should escort and > remain with your child during the private screening process. > * Tell the Security Officer what are your child's abilities are. For > example: can the child stand slightly away from equipment to be handwanded, > walk through the metal detector, or needs to be carried through the metal > detector by the parent/guardian. > * Know that at no time should the Security Officer remove your child > from his/her mobility aid (wheelchair or scooter). You are responsible for > removing your child from his/her equipment at your discretion to accomplish > screening. > * Know that if your child is unable to walk or stand, the Security > Officer will conduct a pat-down search of your child while he/she remains in > their mobility aid, as well as a visual and physical inspection of their > equipment. > > Judi > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf > Of Gem Bordages > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:23 AM > UpsAndDowns > Subject: Air or bus? > > (37, DS) and I are planning a trip to Denver. In the past we have > flown, but I do not want her subjected to what amounts to sexual molestation > when we pass through security. Have any of you traveled by air lately with > your child or adult who has DS? If so, how did you handle it? > > granny > -- > *Not for ourselves, but for the world were we born.* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Thank you all for some great ideas. I knew I could count on you. I think we will be taking the bus. Not only because neither of us will be subjected to such extreme security, but because going from sea level to the Mile-High City in just a couple of hours was a bit much for this old bod the last time we went. A slower trip may allow me to get acclimated. Also, we would be able to see a lot more of the country from the ground than from the sky. We can even get off the bus and explore a bit, if we wish. Again, thanks. You guys are the best. granny On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Marcia F <mloomas@...> wrote: > Granny - Unfortunately is only 12 so I don't know about traveling > with an Adult but Denver security can be a real pain especially now that > they have the body scanners. I would definitely make sure when you are > leaving Denver to be at the airport 2 hours ahead of flight time because the > lines get really long. Is there a way to maybe use the handicap route for > ? > > Marcia Freeman > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: gem.bordages@... > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:22:46 -0600 > > Subject: Air or bus? > > > (37, DS) and I are planning a trip to Denver. In the past we have > flown, but I do not want her subjected to what amounts to sexual > molestation > when we pass through security. Have any of you traveled by air lately with > your child or adult who has DS? If so, how did you handle it? > > granny > -- > *Not for ourselves, but for the world were we born.* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 We have traveled with our son (mostly to HI) several times. He has NEVER been pulled out for a search. He puts his shoes and his stuff on the conveyer belt and walks through the opening. My husband mentions that he has a hip replacement before he steps into the opening. They pull him a side and just use a wand over him to detect the metal. Takes about 2 minutes or so. I'm quite busy at that moment....because everything is moving right along. I have to be sure to get all of Josiah's and my stuff off the belt and over to the side so I can pack back up the stuff and get his shoes tied or whatever needs to be done. (Wear slip-on shoes. LOL) There can be several things to gather up...shoes, metal belts, some electrical stuff like computers, keys, purse...or whatever, plus your carry-on, x 2 for us. Try to minimize that stuff as much as possible. We have never been treated disrespectfully or searched personally. One time when we were landing back home after a long trip, I was approached by an agent from the FAA. He spoke friendly to Josiah. Then he asked me how our flight was, gave me his card, and told me to 'call him' if we 'ever' had any problems. I think he was on our flight because we were all in the group of people walking toward the luggage area. Also, Josiah has always been treated kindly by the pilots and attendants on the plane. ...In spite of all his flirting with the attendants. LOL Hope you and have a good time in Denver, whatever you choose to do. Shirley mom to Josiah, now 21 (37, DS) and I are planning a trip to Denver. In the past we have flown, but I do not want her subjected to what amounts to sexual molestation when we pass through security. Have any of you traveled by air lately with your child or adult who has DS? If so, how did you handle it? granny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Hi Granny, We are planning a trip to Spain in December, and i just read the other day about the new xray scanners. I plan to ask that my kids not be tested through those machines. We have traveled so much in recent years that all of the kids are really good travelers, ie. Knowing what to expect, how to behave, etc. But right up at the security checkpoint it gets so chaotic with everything going through the machines, and we usually take all of our luggage as carry-ons. So I am hoping I can keep everyone reasonably close to me while we throw our things on the conveyor belt, and I can see what the strip search deal is. I usually ask to bring our own drinks along for Olivia - she often refuses anything but chocolate milk, and I don't want to go through constipation issues with her later if I can help it,since there is no chocolate milk on an airplane. Sometimes I remember to get a Dr. Note, which is helpful, but sometimes I forget. I find it almost depends on the airport, the staff, and how empathetic they are. Many will look at Livi - obviously, she is a little girl with ds, and tell me they deal with diet issues all the time, so it is ok - although they still test a little carton for explosives! - but I have had other employees give me a hard time about bringing some for a 9 hour trip to Poland, suggesting I could buy some for her when we arrive! Patty Sent from my iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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