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<< t was hard being up there and watched a set of parents lose their child

while we were there. It was so sad. My daughter walked in as they were

wheeling out the bed with the covered sheet and a smiley sticker on top.

She

came in crying just watching it. >>

OMG, , how sad.......too bad you had to witness something like

that.....hope it wasn't too traumatic....on a good note, glad things worked

out okay!

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Oh . You sure have had an ordeal, huh? Were you diabetic before all of this? I constantly struggle with dehydration, since I have IBS that is very sensitive. The Glucophage can cause nausea/vomiting/diarrhea. There are new ways to test blood sugar...I have one that I can either use my fingers or my arms. Might want to check in to that. Hang in there, and don't hesitate to go to the ER!!!!!

-- Hospital stay

Hello EveryoneI guess I can no longer claim to have avoid the inevitable hospitable stay now that I checked into ER on Feb. 14 and was released late Feb. 20.It seems to have started on Wed. Feb. 13, work had been coming along fine, I'd been working with PGS for about a week and a half by that point after essentially months of boredom after Enron walked all of us off the site in December. Most of my co-workers were off at a convention and I was holding down the fort but a couple of PGS employees wanted to go to a buffet lunch place. I was a bit leery since we went to the place on Monday and one of the PGS guys came down with stomach aches that same day. Well, lunch went fine and I had a cardiologist appointment in the afternoon. The news from the cardiologist was good, my EF was up to 60% and we decided we could start easing off the diuretics which take the load off the heart but is hard on the other organs. I decided to work late because I was real close to solving a particular problem but by 7:20 pm, I was doubled over in stomach pain. I went home, hoping that it would be better in the morning.It wasn't so I called in sick and set up an appointment with my regular Physician. He got me in around noon and I mentioned that I had stomach pains, extreme dehydration, and hadn't urinated or defecated any significant amount since the previous day. He said that it's probably just an ulcer since food poisoning comes with diarrhea, and gave me some Prevacid with the instruction to come back the next day if it gets worse. Well, after taking the Prevacid, I'm throwing up a soupy substance and I keep getting dryer. I find that soaking in a bathtub helps so I surmise that somehow nothing is getting past the stomach. I called up a long time friend, hoping to get her to pick up some popsicles for me to help curb the thirst and maybe an edema set so I can figure out a way to get water in till morning. She insists I go to ER and takes me there.At the hospital, they put me on IV fluids, cautiously of course since I'm a CHF patient and start pumping insulin into me cause my glucose levels were off the chart (they figure about 600 to 800 mg/dl). I was also running a fever so they put me on IV antibiotics. My blood pressure while I was in ER was 60/30. Of course since the hospital is where my cardiologist is, my specialist takes over. They put me on oxygen, on a heart monitor and on a catheter (though not much came out). They did chest X-rays and Ultrasounds and took enormous amounts of blood. I spent one night in ER, two nights in IMCU and the rest of the time in the telemetry ward. They put me on full liquids for a few days and then moved onto a low sodium/ diabetic diet.I didn't have to worry about urinating in ER or IMCU because of the catheter but as my stomach and pancreas grudgingly began to work together again, the bedpan in IMCU became really annoying especially since I was webbed into a fair bit of machinery at that point and they started me on laxatives just to get some bowel movements. The bathroom in the semi-private room was a godsend.My fever continues even now (it's 101.6F right now), while I was in hospital, my blood sugar levels never dropped below 231 mg/dl but now that I'm home, it's easily down to 106 mg/dl before meals and about 240 afterwards. They have no idea why I have a fever, all the cultures came out negative. We've stopped all the diuretics completely to give the other organs a break though this means more of a load on my heart. I'm on Amaryl twice a day to urge the Pancreas along and a shot of Lantus insulin to provide a daily basing level so the Pancreas doesn't have to work so hard. They've also got me on Glucophage 500 mg BID. I've also found that since returning home, I'm more nauseous, sleep better (then at the hospital), and the sugar levels seem lower.Oh, and I've run out of unpierced finger tips.Regards,~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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Hello

No, I wasn't diabetic before though there's probably a familiar

predisposition towards diabetes. I've been diagnosed with CHF

secondary to Dilated Cardio Myopathy since April 2001. Fortunately,

that has been going well, my heart has made a remarkable recovery to 60%

EF, back in April it was 24% and my Cardiologist estimates that it had

been as low as 15% (anything below 30% is reason to be on the transplant

list).

Mind you, one of the treatments for CHF is to reduce the load on the

heart by reducing the retained fluids through diurectics. That is

usually at the expense of the other organs. For most CHF patients,

it's the kidneys that suffer, I guess for me it was the Pancreas that

got stressed out to the breaking point.

The CHF treatments probably did not help since another treatment is

fluid restriction. I had been sucking on mints to curb the thirst

since thirst is expected when taking diurectics and avoiding fluids.

All of this dehydration was bound to be bad for the Pancreas.

The nausea seems to be somehow tied to breathing as well as to when I

take the Glucophage. Basically a bit of nasal congestion seems to

throw me off into a fit.

The Glucose monitoring kit that I got from the hospital is pretty good,

once I figured out how to set the time and date on it, I've also figured

out where to buy more test strips, lancelets, and alcohol swabs. It's

supposed to have a computer uplink but I can't figure out how. Now if

I can just figure out how to get more syringes before my sample set runs

out ...

Regards,

Don & wrote:

>

> Oh . You sure have had an ordeal, huh? Were you diabetic before

> all of this? I constantly struggle with dehydration, since I have IBS

> that is very sensitive. The Glucophage can cause

> nausea/vomiting/diarrhea. There are new ways to test blood sugar...I

> have one that I can either use my fingers or my arms. Might want to

> check in to that. Hang in there, and don't hesitate to go to the ER!!!!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I'm really sorry to hear about what happened....... You really had a hard

time!

Sorry, I'm a little confused though - did the doc said what caused the

stomach pain and high sugar levels? Is it really due to food poisoning?

Hope you are feeling better now,

Ling

Hospital stay

Hello Everyone

I guess I can no longer claim to have avoid the inevitable hospitable

stay now that I checked into ER on Feb. 14 and was released late Feb. 20.

It seems to have started on Wed. Feb. 13, work had been coming along

fine, I'd been working with PGS for about a week and a half by that

point after essentially months of boredom after Enron walked all of us

off the site in December. Most of my co-workers were off at a

convention and I was holding down the fort but a couple of PGS employees

wanted to go to a buffet lunch place. I was a bit leery since we went

to the place on Monday and one of the PGS guys came down with stomach

aches that same day. Well, lunch went fine and I had a cardiologist

appointment in the afternoon. The news from the cardiologist was good,

my EF was up to 60% and we decided we could start easing off the

diuretics which take the load off the heart but is hard on the other

organs. I decided to work late because I was real close to solving a

particular problem but by 7:20 pm, I was doubled over in stomach pain.

I went home, hoping that it would be better in the morning.

It wasn't so I called in sick and set up an appointment with my regular

Physician. He got me in around noon and I mentioned that I had stomach

pains, extreme dehydration, and hadn't urinated or defecated any

significant amount since the previous day. He said that it's probably

just an ulcer since food poisoning comes with diarrhea, and gave me some

Prevacid with the instruction to come back the next day if it gets

worse. Well, after taking the Prevacid, I'm throwing up a soupy

substance and I keep getting dryer. I find that soaking in a bathtub

helps so I surmise that somehow nothing is getting past the stomach. I

called up a long time friend, hoping to get her to pick up some

popsicles for me to help curb the thirst and maybe an edema set so I can

figure out a way to get water in till morning. She insists I go to ER

and takes me there.

At the hospital, they put me on IV fluids, cautiously of course since

I'm a CHF patient and start pumping insulin into me cause my glucose

levels were off the chart (they figure about 600 to 800 mg/dl). I was

also running a fever so they put me on IV antibiotics. My blood

pressure while I was in ER was 60/30. Of course since the hospital is

where my cardiologist is, my specialist takes over. They put me on

oxygen, on a heart monitor and on a catheter (though not much came out).

They did chest X-rays and Ultrasounds and took enormous amounts of

blood. I spent one night in ER, two nights in IMCU and the rest of the

time in the telemetry ward. They put me on full liquids for a few days

and then moved onto a low sodium/ diabetic diet.

I didn't have to worry about urinating in ER or IMCU because of the

catheter but as my stomach and pancreas grudgingly began to work

together again, the bedpan in IMCU became really annoying especially

since I was webbed into a fair bit of machinery at that point and they

started me on laxatives just to get some bowel movements. The bathroom

in the semi-private room was a godsend.

My fever continues even now (it's 101.6F right now), while I was in

hospital, my blood sugar levels never dropped below 231 mg/dl but now

that I'm home, it's easily down to 106 mg/dl before meals and about 240

afterwards. They have no idea why I have a fever, all the cultures

came out negative. We've stopped all the diuretics completely to give

the other organs a break though this means more of a load on my heart.

I'm on Amaryl twice a day to urge the Pancreas along and a shot of

Lantus insulin to provide a daily basing level so the Pancreas doesn't

have to work so hard. They've also got me on Glucophage 500 mg BID.

I've also found that since returning home, I'm more nauseous, sleep

better (then at the hospital), and the sugar levels seem lower.

Oh, and I've run out of unpierced finger tips.

Regards,

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Hello Ling

They seem to not know. Diabetes probably does run in the family.

They gave me Tequin by IV just in case it was food poisoning but the

blood cultures came back negative. I'm still running a fever so it may

have been the virus that's been running around the office (just about

everyone called in sick that week, on one day or another), I had a sore

throat yesterday so either my Mom is getting too annoying on the phone

or I'm fighting a cold, I also have the sniffles now.

Regardless, the treatment strategy is to stop the diurectics and the

digoxcin that had been making things easier on the heart, keep up with

the ACE inhibitor, the ARB's and the beta blockers to keep the blood

pressure low; to provide a basing level of insulin with daily injections

of Lantus, keep the liver from pumping in Glucose by taking Glucophage,

and to stimulate the Pancreas a bit during the day with Amaryl. I

guess the idea is to let the Pancreas rest a bit and at least become

less inflamed.

The Endocrinologist said that if the sugar levels get high enough, the

stomach and Pancreas will lock each other up such that the stomach can't

empty into the duodenum. That's certainly what it felt like, lots of

stuff sloshing around in the stomach, hurting with every slosh, and dry

as a bone everywhere else.

I started describing my health conditions as various organs going on

strike, first the heart and now the Pancreas wants equal treatment. My

Cardiologist says that's a pretty good analogy. I guess what I need is

a top notch Union negotiator.

Temperature up to 102 F this morning.

Regards,

Bunbun wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I'm really sorry to hear about what happened....... You really had a hard

> time!

>

> Sorry, I'm a little confused though - did the doc said what caused the

> stomach pain and high sugar levels? Is it really due to food poisoning?

>

> Hope you are feeling better now,

> Ling

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Oh , I am so sorry you have been so ill :o( They are Positive that it wasn't food poisoning??? When do you get reseen by your Dr.??? Is your fever gone now??? How are you doing today??? Your still off work aren't you??? You REST and allow whatever this culprit is to get out of your system... I Knew I worried for a reason !!!

((( Worried Hugs )))

Helen

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Hello Everyone

I guess I can no longer claim to have avoid the inevitable hospitable

stay now that I checked into ER on Feb. 14 and was released late Feb. 20.

It seems to have started on Wed. Feb. 13, work had been coming along

fine, I'd been working with PGS for about a week and a half by that

point after essentially months of boredom after Enron walked all of us

off the site in December. Most of my co-workers were off at a

convention and I was holding down the fort but a couple of PGS employees

wanted to go to a buffet lunch place. I was a bit leery since we went

to the place on Monday and one of the PGS guys came down with stomach

aches that same day. Well, lunch went fine and I had a cardiologist

appointment in the afternoon. The news from the cardiologist was good,

my EF was up to 60% and we decided we could start easing off the

diuretics which take the load off the heart but is hard on the other

organs. I decided to work late because I was real close to solving a

particular problem but by 7:20 pm, I was doubled over in stomach pain.

I went home, hoping that it would be better in the morning.

It wasn't so I called in sick and set up an appointment with my regular

Physician. He got me in around noon and I mentioned that I had stomach

pains, extreme dehydration, and hadn't urinated or defecated any

significant amount since the previous day. He said that it's probably

just an ulcer since food poisoning comes with diarrhea, and gave me some

Prevacid with the instruction to come back the next day if it gets

worse. Well, after taking the Prevacid, I'm throwing up a soupy

substance and I keep getting dryer. I find that soaking in a bathtub

helps so I surmise that somehow nothing is getting past the stomach. I

called up a long time friend, hoping to get her to pick up some

popsicles for me to help curb the thirst and maybe an edema set so I can

figure out a way to get water in till morning. She insists I go to ER

and takes me there.

At the hospital, they put me on IV fluids, cautiously of course since

I'm a CHF patient and start pumping insulin into me cause my glucose

levels were off the chart (they figure about 600 to 800 mg/dl). I was

also running a fever so they put me on IV antibiotics. My blood

pressure while I was in ER was 60/30. Of course since the hospital is

where my cardiologist is, my specialist takes over. They put me on

oxygen, on a heart monitor and on a catheter (though not much came out).

They did chest X-rays and Ultrasounds and took enormous amounts of

blood. I spent one night in ER, two nights in IMCU and the rest of the

time in the telemetry ward. They put me on full liquids for a few days

and then moved onto a low sodium/ diabetic diet.

I didn't have to worry about urinating in ER or IMCU because of the

catheter but as my stomach and pancreas grudgingly began to work

together again, the bedpan in IMCU became really annoying especially

since I was webbed into a fair bit of machinery at that point and they

started me on laxatives just to get some bowel movements. The bathroom

in the semi-private room was a godsend.

My fever continues even now (it's 101.6F right now), while I was in

hospital, my blood sugar levels never dropped below 231 mg/dl but now

that I'm home, it's easily down to 106 mg/dl before meals and about 240

afterwards. They have no idea why I have a fever, all the cultures

came out negative. We've stopped all the diuretics completely to give

the other organs a break though this means more of a load on my heart.

I'm on Amaryl twice a day to urge the Pancreas along and a shot of

Lantus insulin to provide a daily basing level so the Pancreas doesn't

have to work so hard. They've also got me on Glucophage 500 mg BID.

I've also found that since returning home, I'm more nauseous, sleep

better (then at the hospital), and the sugar levels seem lower.

Oh, and I've run out of unpierced finger tips.

Regards,

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Hi

Sounds like you really need a GOOD rest...... take care! hope you feel

better real soon!

Hugs,

Ling

Re: Hospital stay

Hello Ling

They seem to not know. Diabetes probably does run in the family.

They gave me Tequin by IV just in case it was food poisoning but the

blood cultures came back negative. I'm still running a fever so it may

have been the virus that's been running around the office (just about

everyone called in sick that week, on one day or another), I had a sore

throat yesterday so either my Mom is getting too annoying on the phone

or I'm fighting a cold, I also have the sniffles now.

Regardless, the treatment strategy is to stop the diurectics and the

digoxcin that had been making things easier on the heart, keep up with

the ACE inhibitor, the ARB's and the beta blockers to keep the blood

pressure low; to provide a basing level of insulin with daily injections

of Lantus, keep the liver from pumping in Glucose by taking Glucophage,

and to stimulate the Pancreas a bit during the day with Amaryl. I

guess the idea is to let the Pancreas rest a bit and at least become

less inflamed.

The Endocrinologist said that if the sugar levels get high enough, the

stomach and Pancreas will lock each other up such that the stomach can't

empty into the duodenum. That's certainly what it felt like, lots of

stuff sloshing around in the stomach, hurting with every slosh, and dry

as a bone everywhere else.

I started describing my health conditions as various organs going on

strike, first the heart and now the Pancreas wants equal treatment. My

Cardiologist says that's a pretty good analogy. I guess what I need is

a top notch Union negotiator.

Temperature up to 102 F this morning.

Regards,

Bunbun wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I'm really sorry to hear about what happened....... You really had a hard

> time!

>

> Sorry, I'm a little confused though - did the doc said what caused the

> stomach pain and high sugar levels? Is it really due to food poisoning?

>

> Hope you are feeling better now,

> Ling

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Hi , Please don't go back to work too soon and have a relapse... That fever is there for some reason...Sure would be nice if they could isolate it so you knew what it was...Take care and keep us posted as to how you are...

((( Feverless Hugs )))

Helen

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Hello Helen

They seem pretty positive that it wasn't food poisoning, all the blood

cultures came back negative even though I've been running a fever. I

think it's breaking, it was 100.4 this morning compared to yesterday's

102. I was originally going to go in to work today but I decided to

call in sick and see if the fever really breaks.

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Hello Helen

They seem pretty positive that it wasn't food poisoning, all the blood

cultures came back negative even though I've been running a fever. I

think it's breaking, it was 100.4 this morning compared to yesterday's

102. I was originally going to go in to work today but I decided to

call in sick and see if the fever really breaks.

Regards,

angelbear1129@... wrote:

> Oh , I am so sorry you have been so ill :o( They are Positive

> that it wasn't food poisoning??? When do you get reseen by your Dr.???

> Is your fever gone now??? How are you doing today??? Your still off work

> aren't you??? You REST and allow whatever this culprit is to get out of

> your system... I Knew I worried for a reason !!!

> ((( Worried Hugs )))

> Helen

>

>

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Hello Helen

I think the fever broke. The fever and sweating was particularly

fierce last night making sleep difficult but this morning's temperature

reading is 98.2 (below normal even) so I think the fever has finally

broke after almost two weeks of temperatures ranging from 100 to 102.

It's strange, I think I feel like I have more energy than when I had a

fever but I also feel more tired. I think this just means that what

rest I can get now is likely to be better and deeper than while the

fever was running.

Regards,

angelbear1129@... wrote:

> Hi , Please don't go back to work too soon and have a relapse...

> That fever is there for some reason...Sure would be nice if they could

> isolate it so you knew what it was...Take care and keep us posted as to

> how you are...

> ((( Feverless Hugs )))

> Helen

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Oh I am so Happy that your fever finally broke...I do hope you do get more restful sleep :o) Maybe being of the diuretic is helping also? Maybe! You still be careful... When my brother got food poising he was awful ill for two weeks before he got better...But he was only in the hospital for four days...But he's also healthy in all other aspects...I know they said it wasn't food poising, but one wonders...Take Care...

((( Special Hugs )))

Helen

Hello Helen

I think the fever broke. The fever and sweating was particularly

fierce last night making sleep difficult but this morning's temperature

reading is 98.2 (below normal even) so I think the fever has finally

broke after almost two weeks of temperatures ranging from 100 to 102.

It's strange, I think I feel like I have more energy than when I had a

fever but I also feel more tired. I think this just means that what

rest I can get now is likely to be better and deeper than while the

fever was running.

Regards,

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Hello Helen

Being off the diurectics will certainly help most of my body, it's

probably a welcome break for the liver, kidneys and pancreas but it

means more fluid for my heart to pump around. Fortunately, my heart EF

is up to 60% now so it should be able to take the load. Back in April

it wouldn't have been able to do so, the echocardiogram back then placed

the EF at 24% and my Cardiologist estimates it was actually as low as

15% back then.

I seem to be getting a bit of nasal congestion and if my nose plugs up

while sleeping, I tend to inhale all that crap all of a sudden into my

mouth and then get real nauseous (threw up last night). Unfortunately,

I can't take any decongestant as that would mess up my blood pressure so

I have to just hope it all stays clear.

What I can't figure out is what gives with my glucose levels, it was all

over the place in the hospital (first reading was 520 when I checked in,

second reading a couple of hours later was 650 and throughout the stay

it never went below 230) but as soon as I'm home, my glucose levels have

been about 105 even, going as low as 70 and maybe as high as 180 but

mostly 100 to 130. Naturally I'll keep injecting the Lantus and stay

on the Glucophage and Amaryl till the Endocrinologist tells me otherwise

but he doesn't even want a follow up for three weeks.

Regards,

angelbear1129@... wrote:

> Oh I am so Happy that your fever finally broke...I do hope you do get

> more restful sleep :o) Maybe being of the diuretic is helping also?

> Maybe! You still be careful... When my brother got food poising he was

> awful ill for two weeks before he got better...But he was only in the

> hospital for four days...But he's also healthy in all other aspects...I

> know they said it wasn't food poising, but one wonders...Take Care...

> ((( Special Hugs )))

> Helen

>

>

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Hi , So Glad your EF is up to 60%... Yayyyy

Maybe being so ill is what messed up your sugar... I too hope you are not getting ill with a cold, I can not take decongestents either, so I have to go through all the mess with out anything either... It is no fun is it ???

Another thing, have you cleaned and checked out your glucose tester to make sure it is reading accurate??? Just a thought... Mine kept saying I was doing fine one time last year and I Knew it should be low, so after a few of the wrong readings that I knew had to be wrong because of how I felt, then I remembered to check the machine and clean it, then the next time I felt so bad and thought I was too low, I checked my blood and sure enough, I was... Just an idea...That's a shame that you have to wait to see the dr. for three weeks... If you don't get any better or are worse, call and see if they can get you iin sooner... :o) Glad you are doing a little better though :o) Take care and Rest when you can...

((( Special Get Well Hugs )))

Helen

Hello Helen

Being off the diurectics will certainly help most of my body, it's

probably a welcome break for the liver, kidneys and pancreas but it

means more fluid for my heart to pump around. Fortunately, my heart EF

is up to 60% now so it should be able to take the load. Back in April

it wouldn't have been able to do so, the echocardiogram back then placed

the EF at 24% and my Cardiologist estimates it was actually as low as

15% back then.

I seem to be getting a bit of nasal congestion and if my nose plugs up

while sleeping, I tend to inhale all that crap all of a sudden into my

mouth and then get real nauseous (threw up last night). Unfortunately,

I can't take any decongestant as that would mess up my blood pressure so

I have to just hope it all stays clear.

What I can't figure out is what gives with my glucose levels, it was all

over the place in the hospital (first reading was 520 when I checked in,

second reading a couple of hours later was 650 and throughout the stay

it never went below 230) but as soon as I'm home, my glucose levels have

been about 105 even, going as low as 70 and maybe as high as 180 but

mostly 100 to 130. Naturally I'll keep injecting the Lantus and stay

on the Glucophage and Amaryl till the Endocrinologist tells me otherwise

but he doesn't even want a follow up for three weeks.

Regards,

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Ok, I am posting to make sure I didn't almost try to kill myself. I have been

making green smoothies for almost two months now. I had been reading the posts

and I had been mixing the greens. So one week I would use spinach, the next

week I would use kale, next beet greens, lettuce, etc. Whenever one green ran

out I bought a new green. I would mix mangos, peaches, strawberries, plums,

kiwi, bananas, and blueberries. Usually bananas, mangos, and peaches and a

green.

I was having great bowel movements. Usually 2 a day and I was really happy.

More energy and moving better. Well on 8/22 I had 5 bowel movements. I was

really excited. On 8/23 I had 2 bowel movements. At 7:00 that night I was in

the hospital with so much pain I could not stand up. I was admitted to the

hospital and they said that I was impacted. Now how could I be impacted if I

had 5 bowel movements the day before? I had 2 or 3 enemas and ended up staying

in the hospital for 9 more days. I could not put anything down my throat

because it always came back up. So it was difficult for them to test me for

anything. The x-rays always showed that I was obstructed. So I either had an

illeus, obstruction, or something else.

So my question here is did I do this to myself? Both my son and husband have

been fine. They have not had a problem.

What changes if any do you suggest I make.

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I am so sorry you are not feeling well and hope you get to the source of the

issue quickly. However, I can relate to one day being fine and the next moment

not. Way before my vitamix days had a similar situation. I work with kids, and

thought I had come down with the flu because all of a sudden, nothing would stay

down. So over an entire weekend, just kept thinking I had the flu or stomach

virus. Eventually went to the hospital and they rehydrated me but did not take

any x-rays until the second time I went back. Long story short, I had

developed adhesions from past female surgeries that caused a blockage and a

kinked bowel. But bottom line, one moment, I was working and the next not. So,

while not an expert, my adhesions/blockage formed without prior warning and my

question to you is that something they can check you out for? Good luck and

feel better.

>

> Ok, I am posting to make sure I didn't almost try to kill myself. I have been

making green smoothies for almost two months now. I had been reading the posts

and I had been mixing the greens. So one week I would use spinach, the next

week I would use kale, next beet greens, lettuce, etc. Whenever one green ran

out I bought a new green. I would mix mangos, peaches, strawberries, plums,

kiwi, bananas, and blueberries. Usually bananas, mangos, and peaches and a

green.

>

> I was having great bowel movements. Usually 2 a day and I was really happy.

More energy and moving better. Well on 8/22 I had 5 bowel movements. I was

really excited. On 8/23 I had 2 bowel movements. At 7:00 that night I was in

the hospital with so much pain I could not stand up. I was admitted to the

hospital and they said that I was impacted. Now how could I be impacted if I

had 5 bowel movements the day before? I had 2 or 3 enemas and ended up staying

in the hospital for 9 more days. I could not put anything down my throat

because it always came back up. So it was difficult for them to test me for

anything. The x-rays always showed that I was obstructed. So I either had an

illeus, obstruction, or something else.

>

> So my question here is did I do this to myself? Both my son and husband have

been fine. They have not had a problem.

>

> What changes if any do you suggest I make.

>

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So sorry you are going through this. There is a possibility that you went overboard on fruits and veggies, or it very well could have been something that would have happened with no diet changes. It actually isn't entirely uncommon for someone suddenly switching to a high intake of fruits and veggies to have problems though. The reason for this is that if the body isn't use to a high load of them to begin with, it can be hard to digest the additional fiber, oxalates, iron, minerals, etc. Veggies high in iron can cause stomach upset. The addition of a lot of vegetable fiber can cause problems, as well as a high concentration of pesticides if you aren't using strictly organic fruits and veggies. Although fruits and veggies are "good" for us, too much all at once can be hard on the system, and can even lead to the formation of

kidney stones and gall stones. I, for one, have to severely limit my veggie intake, and can do no fruit at all. Being vegetarian, this isn't easy to pull off, but as with all things, moderation is key. I suggest keeping a VERY detailed food journal or 6 weeks, listing EVERYTHING you put in your body. Some things don't cause an issue for several days after consumption, so having a journal may help you to see a pattern after a while. In my own case, spinach was harming me more than helping, and some other things were causing issues. I hope you feel better soon!!From: Penny <penbate@...>Subject: Hospital Stay Date: Saturday, September

3, 2011, 6:39 AM

Ok, I am posting to make sure I didn't almost try to kill myself. I have been making green smoothies for almost two months now. I had been reading the posts and I had been mixing the greens. So one week I would use spinach, the next week I would use kale, next beet greens, lettuce, etc. Whenever one green ran out I bought a new green. I would mix mangos, peaches, strawberries, plums, kiwi, bananas, and blueberries. Usually bananas, mangos, and peaches and a green.

I was having great bowel movements. Usually 2 a day and I was really happy. More energy and moving better. Well on 8/22 I had 5 bowel movements. I was really excited. On 8/23 I had 2 bowel movements. At 7:00 that night I was in the hospital with so much pain I could not stand up. I was admitted to the hospital and they said that I was impacted. Now how could I be impacted if I had 5 bowel movements the day before? I had 2 or 3 enemas and ended up staying in the hospital for 9 more days. I could not put anything down my throat because it always came back up. So it was difficult for them to test me for anything. The x-rays always showed that I was obstructed. So I either had an illeus, obstruction, or something else.

So my question here is did I do this to myself? Both my son and husband have been fine. They have not had a problem.

What changes if any do you suggest I make.

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