Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Share Posted May 17, 2002 I need your expertise here. As you know, I am just starting the process of getting my son's plagio and tort treated. We have been doing the exercises you all have helped me find here and they are getting easier! He still prefers to turn that head of his to the left, but will let me stretch it the other way without crying now. Also, I've been putting him to sleep on his non tort side until he can get treated. Of course, that really hasn't made any difference in his head at all, probably because he's almost 8 months old, but it makes me feel better that at least for now we're probably not making the flat side flatter. Well, as you probably also remember, my ped originally wanted us to see Dr. Singhal at Children's Mercy here in KC. But, that doctor had no availability until August 18th...way too long to wait. So, with the help here, I found Dr. Witt from KU Med, who can see him on June 3rd. Upon your advice, I also called Rehab Designs of America here in KC, which is a CT clinic. After playing phone tag, I got to speak with Bob over at Rehab Designs. What a blessing it was to talk with him. He spent 45 minutes on the phone with me! He gave me lots of information and asked lots of questions about Grant. He promised to get him in for a free consultation within 3 BUSINESS DAYS?! WOW! He said he'd put a folder of articles and other information on plagio and tort and they'd help me find a physical therapist for Grant. He also said that if they didn't feel Grant needed to be banded, that they would certainly tell me, but if he did need to be, that they could provide information to my pediatrician in request of a prescription direct from him. I'm taking Grant in Monday for this free consultation. My husband thinks Grant should still be seen by the specialist, Dr. Witt, since my pediatrician wanted Grant to be seen by one. But, my pediatrician is so lax on this whole issue, he's sending Grant to a specialist because he doesn't deal with this...he's never acted like he thinks Grant has craniosyntesis (sp?) or anything. I guess I see a potential that if Grant needs to be treated he can start this process a whole lot quicker if we go the CT route. Also, I have to admit the more open design of the DOC band over the STARband intrigues me. Also, it sounds like this group has been doing this a LONG time. I'm anxious to see how Grant's head rates, mild, moderate, severe, etc. and to see the before and afters Bob said he's show me. He said we'd also look at some castings for examples of different types of plagio. Sorry this is so long...but, what would you do? 1. Go to CT and if they say yes treat it, try to approach the ped about writing the prescription himself? How is my ped going to react to this? Any guesses? Any experience? 2. Go to CT and then wait to see the specialist, armed with another opinion? 3. CT obviously uses DOCband and I know Dr Witt uses STARband...anyone want to share opinions of one vs. another? (I did see that fact sheet on the differences, just want personal opinions maybe?) Thanks!!!! Love, R mom to Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Share Posted May 17, 2002 - I would go to CT. You can also keep your appointment with Dr. Witt if you want . At least if you go to CT now and decide to go with the DOC Band, you have that already done and he process will move faster. Dane never saw a specialist. I'm not saying that Grant doesn't need to, it just wasn't something our ped said we needed to do because she knew he didn't have cranio. His soft spot is still so big, about a half dollar size! We can always see his pulse! Debbie's daughter wore both a STAR Band and DOC Band. She is off gambling, but can probably fill you in when she returns- as long as she doesn't hit it big and runs to the Carribean! It at least sounds like the STARBand orthotists know what they are doing where you live, so that is a plus if you decide to go with them. Dane's mom DOC Grad > I need your expertise here. As you know, I am just starting the > process of getting my son's plagio and tort treated. We have been > doing the exercises you all have helped me find here and they are > getting easier! He still prefers to turn that head of his to the > left, but will let me stretch it the other way without crying now. > Also, I've been putting him to sleep on his non tort side until he > can get treated. Of course, that really hasn't made any difference > in his head at all, probably because he's almost 8 months old, but it > makes me feel better that at least for now we're probably not making > the flat side flatter. > > Well, as you probably also remember, my ped originally wanted us to > see Dr. Singhal at Children's Mercy here in KC. But, that doctor had > no availability until August 18th...way too long to wait. So, with > the help here, I found Dr. Witt from KU Med, who can see him on June > 3rd. Upon your advice, I also called Rehab Designs of America here > in KC, which is a CT clinic. After playing phone tag, I got to speak > with Bob over at Rehab Designs. What a blessing it was to talk with > him. He spent 45 minutes on the phone with me! He gave me lots of > information and asked lots of questions about Grant. He promised to > get him in for a free consultation within 3 BUSINESS DAYS?! WOW! He > said he'd put a folder of articles and other information on plagio > and tort and they'd help me find a physical therapist for Grant. He > also said that if they didn't feel Grant needed to be banded, that > they would certainly tell me, but if he did need to be, that they > could provide information to my pediatrician in request of a > prescription direct from him. > > I'm taking Grant in Monday for this free consultation. My husband > thinks Grant should still be seen by the specialist, Dr. Witt, since > my pediatrician wanted Grant to be seen by one. But, my pediatrician > is so lax on this whole issue, he's sending Grant to a specialist > because he doesn't deal with this...he's never acted like he thinks > Grant has craniosyntesis (sp?) or anything. > > I guess I see a potential that if Grant needs to be treated he can > start this process a whole lot quicker if we go the CT route. Also, > I have to admit the more open design of the DOC band over the > STARband intrigues me. Also, it sounds like this group has been > doing this a LONG time. > > I'm anxious to see how Grant's head rates, mild, moderate, severe, > etc. and to see the before and afters Bob said he's show me. He said > we'd also look at some castings for examples of different types of > plagio. > > Sorry this is so long...but, what would you do? > 1. Go to CT and if they say yes treat it, try to approach the ped > about writing the prescription himself? How is my ped going to react > to this? Any guesses? Any experience? > 2. Go to CT and then wait to see the specialist, armed with another > opinion? > 3. CT obviously uses DOCband and I know Dr Witt uses > STARband...anyone want to share opinions of one vs. another? (I did > see that fact sheet on the differences, just want personal opinions > maybe?) > > Thanks!!!! > > Love, R mom to Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 , Wow!! Three business days, that is awesome! I think if I were in your shoes, I would keep the appoinment with both RDA and Dr. Witt. June 3rd is not that far away, and personally speaking, I liked having a specialist tell me for sure that it wasn't cranio. Even though I already knew it wasn't, it was for piece of mind that I wanted a doctor to tell me. And if you decide to go with a DOCband, I would think regardless of what your doctor usually refers people to, he would have to give you a script for your product of choice. Good luck , and let us know how it goes on Monday! Niki Kaylie & Danny (STAR grads) Phila., PA > I need your expertise here. As you know, I am just starting the > process of getting my son's plagio and tort treated. We have been > doing the exercises you all have helped me find here and they are > getting easier! He still prefers to turn that head of his to the > left, but will let me stretch it the other way without crying now. > Also, I've been putting him to sleep on his non tort side until he > can get treated. Of course, that really hasn't made any difference > in his head at all, probably because he's almost 8 months old, but it > makes me feel better that at least for now we're probably not making > the flat side flatter. > > Well, as you probably also remember, my ped originally wanted us to > see Dr. Singhal at Children's Mercy here in KC. But, that doctor had > no availability until August 18th...way too long to wait. So, with > the help here, I found Dr. Witt from KU Med, who can see him on June > 3rd. Upon your advice, I also called Rehab Designs of America here > in KC, which is a CT clinic. After playing phone tag, I got to speak > with Bob over at Rehab Designs. What a blessing it was to talk with > him. He spent 45 minutes on the phone with me! He gave me lots of > information and asked lots of questions about Grant. He promised to > get him in for a free consultation within 3 BUSINESS DAYS?! WOW! He > said he'd put a folder of articles and other information on plagio > and tort and they'd help me find a physical therapist for Grant. He > also said that if they didn't feel Grant needed to be banded, that > they would certainly tell me, but if he did need to be, that they > could provide information to my pediatrician in request of a > prescription direct from him. > > I'm taking Grant in Monday for this free consultation. My husband > thinks Grant should still be seen by the specialist, Dr. Witt, since > my pediatrician wanted Grant to be seen by one. But, my pediatrician > is so lax on this whole issue, he's sending Grant to a specialist > because he doesn't deal with this...he's never acted like he thinks > Grant has craniosyntesis (sp?) or anything. > > I guess I see a potential that if Grant needs to be treated he can > start this process a whole lot quicker if we go the CT route. Also, > I have to admit the more open design of the DOC band over the > STARband intrigues me. Also, it sounds like this group has been > doing this a LONG time. > > I'm anxious to see how Grant's head rates, mild, moderate, severe, > etc. and to see the before and afters Bob said he's show me. He said > we'd also look at some castings for examples of different types of > plagio. > > Sorry this is so long...but, what would you do? > 1. Go to CT and if they say yes treat it, try to approach the ped > about writing the prescription himself? How is my ped going to react > to this? Any guesses? Any experience? > 2. Go to CT and then wait to see the specialist, armed with another > opinion? > 3. CT obviously uses DOCband and I know Dr Witt uses > STARband...anyone want to share opinions of one vs. another? (I did > see that fact sheet on the differences, just want personal opinions > maybe?) > > Thanks!!!! > > Love, R mom to Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Hey ! I am sorry, I can't offer much good advice about your tort. issues, my daughter never had tort.. I see you've already gotten some great replies that I hope will help you! I am happy to hear Bob from CT called you & you already have an appt tomorrow (Mon) for your free eval!! That's terrific. They deal with only plagio babies, they are VERY honest & will give you their honest opinion. It wouldn't hurt for you to still see Dr. Witt for another opinion. That's entirely up to you & your family. It sounds like that's what your husband would feel more comfortable doing. To make my super duper long story somewhat shorter, Abby first wore a STARband unsuccessfully for about 3 mos. (age 8-11 mos). Abby's STARband orthotist was not very well trained or experienced in treating plagio babies.. Unfortunately Abby's STARband did more harm than good to her pretty head as it " dented " in her skull a bit on what was her non flat side of her head. After that, we switched Abby into a DOCband. Abby's DOCband was wonderful. She didn't begin treatment til 11.5 mos & we were still able to get good correction of her severe plagio in 4.5 mos time. Personally for us, the DOCband was better than her STARband. Good luck tomorrow at Cranial Tech., is it a long drive to their clinic for you? I remember you're both in KC so I can't imagine it's long at all - GREAT! Please let us know how it goes. Debbie Abby's mom DOCgrad MI > I need your expertise here. As you know, I am just starting the > process of getting my son's plagio and tort treated. We have been > doing the exercises you all have helped me find here and they are > getting easier! He still prefers to turn that head of his to the > left, but will let me stretch it the other way without crying now. > Also, I've been putting him to sleep on his non tort side until he > can get treated. Of course, that really hasn't made any difference > in his head at all, probably because he's almost 8 months old, but it > makes me feel better that at least for now we're probably not making > the flat side flatter. > > Well, as you probably also remember, my ped originally wanted us to > see Dr. Singhal at Children's Mercy here in KC. But, that doctor had > no availability until August 18th...way too long to wait. So, with > the help here, I found Dr. Witt from KU Med, who can see him on June > 3rd. Upon your advice, I also called Rehab Designs of America here > in KC, which is a CT clinic. After playing phone tag, I got to speak > with Bob over at Rehab Designs. What a blessing it was to talk with > him. He spent 45 minutes on the phone with me! He gave me lots of > information and asked lots of questions about Grant. He promised to > get him in for a free consultation within 3 BUSINESS DAYS?! WOW! He > said he'd put a folder of articles and other information on plagio > and tort and they'd help me find a physical therapist for Grant. He > also said that if they didn't feel Grant needed to be banded, that > they would certainly tell me, but if he did need to be, that they > could provide information to my pediatrician in request of a > prescription direct from him. > > I'm taking Grant in Monday for this free consultation. My husband > thinks Grant should still be seen by the specialist, Dr. Witt, since > my pediatrician wanted Grant to be seen by one. But, my pediatrician > is so lax on this whole issue, he's sending Grant to a specialist > because he doesn't deal with this...he's never acted like he thinks > Grant has craniosyntesis (sp?) or anything. > > I guess I see a potential that if Grant needs to be treated he can > start this process a whole lot quicker if we go the CT route. Also, > I have to admit the more open design of the DOC band over the > STARband intrigues me. Also, it sounds like this group has been > doing this a LONG time. > > I'm anxious to see how Grant's head rates, mild, moderate, severe, > etc. and to see the before and afters Bob said he's show me. He said > we'd also look at some castings for examples of different types of > plagio. > > Sorry this is so long...but, what would you do? > 1. Go to CT and if they say yes treat it, try to approach the ped > about writing the prescription himself? How is my ped going to react > to this? Any guesses? Any experience? > 2. Go to CT and then wait to see the specialist, armed with another > opinion? > 3. CT obviously uses DOCband and I know Dr Witt uses > STARband...anyone want to share opinions of one vs. another? (I did > see that fact sheet on the differences, just want personal opinions > maybe?) > > Thanks!!!! > > Love, R mom to Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2002 Report Share Posted May 19, 2002 Great idea, Nikki. I think I may go this route. I'll let you all know how tomorrow goes. Do you all ever have days where you are like "maybe I'm over-reacting? His head doesn't look too bad?" and then I have nights when I'm giving him a bath where I break down in tears because it looks so bad to me...this is so confusing. Just to get some measurements and outside opinions will be great. niki_jay175 <niki_jay175@...> wrote: ,Wow!! Three business days, that is awesome! I think if I were in your shoes, I would keep the appoinment with both RDA and Dr. Witt. June 3rd is not that far away, and personally speaking, I liked having a specialist tell me for sure that it wasn't cranio. Even though I already knew it wasn't, it was for piece of mind that I wanted a doctor to tell me. And if you decide to go with a DOCband, I would think regardless of what your doctor usually refers people to, he would have to give you a script for your product of choice.Good luck , and let us know how it goes on Monday!NikiKaylie & Danny (STAR grads)Phila., PA> I need your expertise here. As you know, I am just starting the > process of getting my son's plagio and tort treated. We have been > doing the exercises you all have helped me find here and they are > getting easier! He still prefers to turn that head of his to the > left, but will let me stretch it the other way without crying now. > Also, I've been putting him to sleep on his non tort side until he > can get treated. Of course, that really hasn't made any difference > in his head at all, probably because he's almost 8 months old, but it > makes me feel better that at least for now we're probably not making > the flat side flatter.> > Well, as you probably also remember, my ped originally wanted us to > see Dr. Singhal at Children's Mercy here in KC. But, that doctor had > no availability until August 18th...way too long to wait. So, with > the help here, I found Dr. Witt from KU Med, who can see him on June > 3rd. Upon your advice, I also called Rehab Designs of America here > in KC, which is a CT clinic. After playing phone tag, I got to speak > with Bob over at Rehab Designs. What a blessing it was to talk with > him. He spent 45 minutes on the phone with me! He gave me lots of > information and asked lots of questions about Grant. He promised to > get him in for a free consultation within 3 BUSINESS DAYS?! WOW! He > said he'd put a folder of articles and other information on plagio > and tort and they'd help me find a physical therapist for Grant. He > also said that if they didn't feel Grant needed to be banded, that > they would certainly tell me, but if he did need to be, that they > could provide information to my pediatrician in request of a > prescription direct from him. > > I'm taking Grant in Monday for this free consultation. My husband > thinks Grant should still be seen by the specialist, Dr. Witt, since > my pediatrician wanted Grant to be seen by one. But, my pediatrician > is so lax on this whole issue, he's sending Grant to a specialist > because he doesn't deal with this...he's never acted like he thinks > Grant has craniosyntesis (sp?) or anything.> > I guess I see a potential that if Grant needs to be treated he can > start this process a whole lot quicker if we go the CT route. Also, > I have to admit the more open design of the DOC band over the > STARband intrigues me. Also, it sounds like this group has been > doing this a LONG time. > > I'm anxious to see how Grant's head rates, mild, moderate, severe, > etc. and to see the before and afters Bob said he's show me. He said > we'd also look at some castings for examples of different types of > plagio.> > Sorry this is so long...but, what would you do?> 1. Go to CT and if they say yes treat it, try to approach the ped > about writing the prescription himself? How is my ped going to react > to this? Any guesses? Any experience?> 2. Go to CT and then wait to see the specialist, armed with another > opinion?> 3. CT obviously uses DOCband and I know Dr Witt uses > STARband...anyone want to share opinions of one vs. another? (I did > see that fact sheet on the differences, just want personal opinions > maybe?)> > Thanks!!!!> > Love, R mom to GrantFor more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 , I would definetly also get an opinion from CT if you can- and weigh all your options about which route to go. We have had parents with success with the STARbands, and others who have not. I would ask whether they are passive or aggressive and personally would choose an agressive band for an 8 month old. As for the tort, its a long haul, so hang in there, over time he will turn his head as long as you keep up the great work with daily stretches and holds. Good luck! ' Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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