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Hi Kelli,

I happened to marry a guy who absolutely loves the Great Outdoors here in

Oregon, Idaho, Arizona or wherever for that matter. We began river rafting

with out oldest son, Lucas, who is now 9, when he was two. The twins took

their first camping trip at eighteen months (they are now five) and we will

go on our first family (where all five of us go) rafting trip in July.

Advice: If you are camped near water--I have my little ones wear a life

jacket the whole time, whether swimming or not!

If you are afraid they may get out of sight--lots of trees, etc., have them

wear bells on their shoes or teach them to blow a whistle that is pinned to

their clothing.

Have someone responsible for watching them every second...Don't assume

someone else is watching them. We actually say, " I am handing the

responsibility over to you while I go....etc. "

At night, head lamps are handy, so you have both hands free, but can still

see where you are going, if walking with the children..And a flashlight per

child to avoid fighting!

Children love campfires and they are a wonderful experience; however, we have

several fleece jackets with burn holes in them--longer sticks needed for

roasting marshmallows, I guess!

Anyway, you probably are aware of the above saftey issues, but thought I

would just run through some of the things we have done that have worked.

Other tips:

Take tons of baby wipes

Have one small bag of clothes for each child (old clothes--they get trashed)

A bag with books

and a bag with a few toys--The Great Outdoors has it's own toys, so they

generally stay very busy without toys--maybe a few buckets and shovels and

little cars

(I've tried packing everything for the kids in one big bag and I am

constantly digging).

As far as hiking goes, before the twins could walk or at least well enough to

hike, one of us (my husband or I) would stay at camp and go for a mini-hike

around, while the others went for longer hikes or we would start out with the

longer hiking group and turn around after a while, and then we would trade

off the next day.

The summers Sara was almost two and almost three, she did not sleep well in

the tent, at all, while camping--she would be restless all night and I would

be exhausted, as well. I guess being in a new place didn't agree with her.

slept great. Anyway, last year, at age four--she did a lot better--

Overall, it is a wonderful experience for the family--and it makes those

trips when it is just Rand and I, seem so easy!

If you have any other specific questions, send them my way. I hope it works

for you and I hope you have a great time.

Marcia

Mom to Sara (DS) and 5 and Lucas 9

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Hi Marcia, Kelli here....I'm from Washington State and my girlfriend use

to camp all the time. I was watching the news yesterday on the

anniversey of Mt. St. Helens and I could taste the ash all over again.

Still gives me goose bumps to watch it over again. I was on my way to

work the morning the mountain blew and it was straight in my view

driving down the road. I stopped and got out of my car and couldn't

believe it. I really thought it was a atomic bomb. I was so scared.

Anyway back to camping, I mostly worry about , if he'll sleep, get

hurt trying to walk around, get really fussy, ect... I know Tyler will

love it. How did Sara do her first time out?

Kelli....Mom to: , age 22, Greg, age 18, Twins: Set one- April &

Ash age 15, Set two- (ds) & Tyler, age 4.

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Hi Kelli,

I didn't realize you were from Washington State. Wow! What an experience

you had with Mt. St. Helens. I was living in California at the time and had

come up to Portland for a wedding that was on the day it blew--I remember

getting black specks of ash on the white jacket I was wearing.

All but the sleep thing, Sara did great-- she loved the dirt--and everything

else that goes with camping--I remember her being happy.

We're so excited--Yesterday, Sara pedaled a bike, with training wheels, for

the first time--she has been watching ride his bike for several

years, so she was beaming from ear to ear when she realized she was pedaling.

Enjoy the weekend!

Marcia

Mom to Sara (DS) and 5 and Lucas 9

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I'm so happy Sara is learning to ride a bike! That is great! I think

that is a couple yrs. down the road for but someday......

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Wow Marcia, I'm so happy for Sara and you! That is so great about the

bike! Marcia, just wondering how is school for Sara? Do your twins go to

the same or different schools? I loved the picture you posted the other

day of them. It was kinda like looking at my twins fast forward! How is

life now esp. for Sara being 5? It must seem so far away thinking back

to when they were my twins ages, 14 months. I'm doing soo much better

these days{emotionaly} don't know why, but do get sad from time to time,

just thinking about Tara, in general.

Gail ........Bobby 6, Jillian 3 1/2, and Tara{Ds} 14 months

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> Hi Kelli,

>

> I didn't realize you were from Washington State. Wow! What an experience

> you had with Mt. St. Helens. I was living in California at the time and had

> come up to Portland for a wedding that was on the day it blew--I remember

> getting black specks of ash on the white jacket I was wearing.

>

> All but the sleep thing, Sara did great-- she loved the dirt--and everything

> else that goes with camping--I remember her being happy.

>

> We're so excited--Yesterday, Sara pedaled a bike, with training wheels, for

> the first time--she has been watching ride his bike for several

> years, so she was beaming from ear to ear when she realized she was pedaling.

>

> Enjoy the weekend!

>

> Marcia

> Mom to Sara (DS) and 5 and Lucas 9

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Hi Gail,

Thank you for your post and for the questions you have regarding what life is

like for Sara at age five. I understand your curiosity. Just the other day,

I was talking to a Mom who has a daughter with DS who is almost nine. I was

asking her all sorts of questions. It is so great to have our group to ask

questions of us who have kids who are " older " . Sara and go to the

same preschool. Their head teacher tells me that they really do not interact

with one another at school, unless one is hurt or one does not see the other,

then they support one another or ask where the other is. Socially, Sara

does well with her friends at school--she does not stand out as

" different " --other than the fact that they all run to give her hugs when we

arrive at school. Academically, she is still pretty much scribbling, while

her peers are writing either their whole name or parts of their name. She

will copy letters, if I or the teacher write them first. Her coloring is

still scribbling, with attempts to stay in the lines, while is able

to produce a nicely colored page within the lines. It's o.k., though, I know

she will get there--as she has with so many things. She is working on

counting and can sometimes count to six. It takes a lot more repetition for

her to learn something such as the alphabet or counting. She rides the

school bus..is not potty-trained, yet! She takes ballet--communicates very

well--laughs appropriately--is fun to be silly with and actually teases me,

sometimes--and will say, " Mom, you're silly. " I understand your sadness

about Tara, Gail, I have those moments, too; such as last week when I

registered her for Kindergarten--I know there are already " groups " of little

girls who have played together for a number of years--that has not

necessarily happened with Sara--two of her best little friends are three and

four, so I wonder what that will be like for her next year. The other day,

she was running down our lane with her twin brother and a girlfriend of

hers--they were both much faster. Sara just sat down and seemed sad--she

said " I slow " . I gave her a love and said, " Mommy is slow, too, when I jog

with some of my friends, and it is o.k. " I so want her to know it is O.K. to

go at her own pace and to enjoy herself just where she is--I want her to have

a healthy self-esteem and to be able to say, " I am giving it all I have and

it is the best I can do, now and that is o.k. " If I can teach her that, I

will have no reason to feel sad, nor will she. As I have said before, she

brings delight to our lives in some way each day and as you know, by now,

with Tara, each accomplishment seems so worth celebrating!

Hope this helps--if you have any more specific questions, let me know.

Marcia

Mom to Sara (DS) and 5 and Lucas 9

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Marcia, that was such a great post. I love to read about your family, because it

reminds me of my three kidos. I hope I can be as sensitive to as you are

to your Sara. You are an awesome mom!

Diane, Mom to Adam 8, and (ds) 3 1/2.

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Boy, camping brings the OCD out in my youngest daughter. I have finally

started bringing sleeping pills to get her to go to sleep! Kelley in NV

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Well this might not be quite so popular but I will add my 2 cents to the

discussion about the camping trip. I think you should let her go but I also

think you need to make sure that they know her life after 3:00 and before 8:00

like you said. It is a scary thing for us parents to let any of our children go

without us. But we want them to grow up ultimately and be as independent as

they can be. is now 22yo but she started going to camps when she was

much younger . Being included all of her school years, she was included in the

8th grade Georgia trip. It is a 3 night excursion at different sites around

Georgia. They didn't send me the paperwork until I asked for it! But once they

knew I expected her to go with the other 8th graders we met and put some safety

measures in place. They did send a para to keep an eye on her. And her

roommates were briefed and able to ask questions. I packed her clothes in

layers so she could put them on

without looking funny. She didn't come home looking like when I helped fixed

her but she came home and had a blast. The worse that happened was they said

she was hard to get up in the am (not a surprise they were on the move

constantly) and when she took a shower one night she didn't put the shower

curtain inside the tub so water got on the floor. I was THRILLED that nothing

in my eyes happened. And it was a great experience for all. We as parents need

to let our kids grow while putting in place some safety measures. Good luck! I

hope she has fun!

Kathy Everett

678 230-6985

Kathy Everett Consulting

www.KathyEverett.com

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{smile} I did this for my typically developing 10 year old when he went to camp

earlier this school year. He says it worked well for him. A bonus - it helped

keep his clothes dry when he changed in the shower area.

We used Ziploc Large bags - three gallon size - because we needed to pack long

pants (a camp requirement) and a couple of layers for shirts. The bags even

have a handle like a shopping bag.

San

>

> You mentioned that you layered the clothes.

>

> I've used an idea that works well for us. I put one day's 'set' of clothes in

a zip-lock bag...one for each day. I press the air out and get a slim little

package. Usually a 1 gallon size storage bag works well. As clothes get larger

sometimes I use a larger size.

>

> I also do it when we are on family vacations....so I don't have to worry about

it either.

>

> Hope this helps someone.

> Have a great day!!!

>

> Shirley, mom to Josiah 20 yo

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