HPAA dysfunction

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an anti-fear protocol at FP02 seems to have turned off my adrenal

function. FP02 was key in helping to alleviate an inflammatory

condition from a pantothenic acid backfire that was causing a lot of

immune problems and cortisol stress damage, but apparently it went too

far in the other direction and shut off something. i have chronic

fatigue syndrome and weakened heart function from an antidepressant

side effect a couple of years ago, so this development is extremely

unwelcome.

i've tried beta reward training at C3 followed by 10 minutes of

SMR/C4, and today SMR at T3-T4, neither of which helped. blood

pressure 88/50, i'm basically only surviving on adrenal cortex extract

and an inositol form of niacin, which for some reason is boosting me

-- i'm barely able to move without them. most neurofeedback protocols

i can find seem to be about calming the adrenal function, whereas i

need to activate it. recommendations welcome, thanks.

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anyone? Pete?

to elaborate a little, the FPO2 site is roughly between the bridge of

the nose and the right eyebrow. A2/A1 ref/ground. the protocol is

standard SMR, i.e., ~3-7 inhibit, 12-15/11-14 (etc.) reward, ~20-38

inhibit.

i had massive swollen glands, white blood count depression,

inflammatory joint and muscle pain, and general flu-like symptoms from

too much pantothenic acid taken one day for the adrenals (i have CFS

to begin with), and FPO2 started to reverse that. my brainmaster,

however, had been increasingly malfunctioning for probably a year or

more, and i sent it back to Tom C./Brainmaster Tech for them to check

out. they fixed it, and when i got it back, the training was 100 times

more intense -- more than i was used to b/c of the malfunctioning.

apparently that last FPO2 session was too much, and it turned off the

neurological control of the adrenals (it definitely is an " anti-fear "

protocol, among other things).

C3 beta training followed by 10 minutes or so of standard SMR at C4

seems to " calm and brighten " a little, but it is not affecting the

adrenal axis that was turned off by the FPO2. T3-T4 " grounds " and

worsens the symptoms (low blood pressure, low blood sugar, massive

fatigue, dizziness, etc. -- i.e., hypoadrenal). so now i am out of

ideas, and i appreciate any suggestions, including assessment

guidance.

thanks,

jeff w.

> an anti-fear protocol at FP02 seems to have turned off my adrenal

> function. FP02 was key in helping to alleviate an inflammatory

> condition from a pantothenic acid backfire that was causing a lot of

> immune problems and cortisol stress damage, but apparently it went

too

> far in the other direction and shut off something. i have chronic

> fatigue syndrome and weakened heart function from an antidepressant

> side effect a couple of years ago, so this development is extremely

> unwelcome.

>

> i've tried beta reward training at C3 followed by 10 minutes of

> SMR/C4, and today SMR at T3-T4, neither of which helped. blood

> pressure 88/50, i'm basically only surviving on adrenal cortex

extract

> and an inositol form of niacin, which for some reason is boosting me

> -- i'm barely able to move without them. most neurofeedback

protocols

> i can find seem to be about calming the adrenal function, whereas i

> need to activate it. recommendations welcome, thanks.

[Guest guest]

just to follow up a little -- FYI, FWIW -- on wednesday i trained

4-8Hz up at FPO2 for about 7-8 minutes, no other inhibits or rewards,

and that started to reverse things somewhat and restored some energy.

the 4-8Hz affected my sleep (couldn't fall asleep, was awake most of

the night) so today i bumped it up to 5-8Hz and did about 7 minutes. i

was shooting for 10min., but i started getting a weird headache

feeling in the front, so i stopped it short.

i haven't noticed any more energy improvements from the second

training yet over the first, so that might be all i'm going to get at

that site. i do have delayed reactions there, however, with results

usually taking up to 24 hours to actually kick-in. to tie in with

another thread, whenever i did FPO2 i *always* felt definitely worse

for up to a day afterward, and then suddenly it would begin to kick in

and i would feel great from it. it's almost as if the brain has to

process things for a while before being able to integrate the changes

-- well, that is how i tended to conceptualize it, at least. anyway, i

just wanted to say that in my experience there is *no doubt* that

there can be delayed reactions to training, where the symptoms

actually worsen for a while (or new ones arise) before things resolve

in a much better way.

i think i will give it a few days to see how things stabilize, then

cautiously implement some of the suggestions Pete gave me offlist and

see if those can shift things some more. i'll probably do a complete

assessment at that point, too, to try to see where i stand overall and

determine what else might be indicated.

jeff w.

> anyone? Pete?

>

> to elaborate a little, the FPO2 site is roughly between the bridge

of

> the nose and the right eyebrow. A2/A1 ref/ground. the protocol is

> standard SMR, i.e., ~3-7 inhibit, 12-15/11-14 (etc.) reward, ~20-38

> inhibit.

>