Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Once you save your file in BioExplorer (there will be a total of 5 files, one for each placement F,C,M,P,T), then you want to look at them in BioReview. Pete’s designed a great assessment file called TLCassess.rpt that you run on each individual file. I save those, I guess that’s always an option. My feeling is that the more I cross reference, the more I discover what’s happening in the head. I use the person name, date, etc, much like with the BM software. Like DK1201F.rpt, or DK1201C.rpt. Once those are done, you’ll need to export the information to a .txt file, which is piece of cake. Just click on View, Click Export, and save the report (.rpt) as a .txt file. I save it in the same folder. Once all files are done and exported, then I open up the TLC assessBEXP file in excel (downloadable form the files section of the list) You need to make sure that you have the TLC assess BEXP (if you’re using XP) file and not the assessment file we used with the Brainmaster. I believe you either received the instructions with Pete’s protocols, or you can download the “How To” sheet from the files on the listserv. Just in case, I’m going send a copy of this direct to your email address and attach the full instructions. I left out a part about the export from rpt, to .txt files. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 paul, I've done my last several TLC assessments with BioExplorer. Here is the saving routine I have used. 1) when the client is hooked up and I have verified signal quality I click on the button with the red circle (record button) A dialogue comes up that allows me to save info about that recording. I enter the initials of client. Click OK 2) A standard save dialouge comes up. I click on the new folder icon and create a folder for that clients assessment. 3) name the session to be recorded with the location of electrode placement. (f3 f4) 4) click ok 5) start session after 3 minutes are up stop the session 6) place electrodes for next run start a session to verify signal quality. 7) when signal quality is good, begin the save process again. It should go right into the assessment folder you created in the first step. 8) repeat from step 5 until all sites are finished. You should end up with one recorded session for each site. You have to open each run in the TLC- QDS BioReview report and export each run in order for the excel worksheet to process the data. Once you open the report in BioReview select " run on session " from the reports menu. You have to run the report on each saved session. Run the report, export as text, tab delimited. Save the export with the placement information so you can identify it later. (You may want ot create a folder fpr the dclient as you did in the save session step above) BioReview by default will place the exported report in the Exports folder inside the BioExplorer folder. When you go to export there is a small box for " header " information. It should have two lines of text in it. That makes sure there is a two line header in the data exported. BrainMaster does this by default, BioReview had to add two lines of text to match this. Select the text and hit enter two carriage returns (enter key). You onlu have to do this step for the first export. If you export all the reports before quitting BioReview the header information will remain. If for some reason you close BioReview then you have to repeat the step with the header information. The first time I did a BioReview export I entered the carriage returns every time I exported and got garbage for all but hte first run! Once you have exported all the runs quit BioReview. Open the TLC assessment for BioExplorer and enter the data as usual. At 8:29 AM -0500 12/1/03, Goldring wrote: Lets say i wanted to take a chance on using a new program for doing an assessment, just for the sake of asking. If I use that software what do i do to save each period? Stop it with the white square button? then it will automatically be saved to the previously created patient folder? then I begin another capture by pressing the red button? and save in the same way five times ? Then in the XL file I navigate to bioex instead of 1.9? And plug those numbers into TLCAssess? Big question: what do i do with the TLC Assess file in the Bioreport folder? Is that needed or involved int he assessment or is that just an extra? I figured someone else might also have these questions so I posted it on the list. I never looked at the design for Assessment before. that is one comprehensive Instruments screen! On Nov 30, 2003, at 8:48 PM, Van Deusen wrote: , Please change my e-mail address in your address book. The one you used will only work for another week or so. You really need to start doing your assessments in BioExplorer. You'll get more and better information, and it's a piece of cake to do. -- <mailto:gmartin@...> ------ USFamily.Net - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 , and , The BioExplorer package includes (as does the BrainTrainer homepage Files section) the instructions step-by-step for performing the assessment from start to finish. The package also includes the processing file, and Larry has included a version of it (the one mentioned) in the BE package for those those who don't care to buy the protocols from me. One thing I would add to the excellent answers that have been given by and : One of the coolest things about the assessment in BE is the ability to Pause the data-gathering. I almost always Pause at the end of a minute, then have the client open eyes or hand him/her the book or give instructions again, etc. Once they have settled into the new state, I just click on Play again and restart the data gathering. I've also been able to use it when a client was starting to cough or yawn (I keep the cursor right over the Pause key), to avoid getting some excess artifact in the sample. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Pete, i agree the pause is a great feature. my clients have really liked the histogram in the BE assessment. It makes explaining findings much easier. At 3:49 PM -0500 12/1/03, Van Deusen wrote: , and , The BioExplorer package includes (as does the BrainTrainer homepage Files section) the instructions step-by-step for performing the assessment from start to finish. The package also includes the processing file, and Larry has included a version of it (the one mentioned) in the BE package for those those who don't care to buy the protocols from me. One thing I would add to the excellent answers that have been given by and : One of the coolest things about the assessment in BE is the ability to Pause the data-gathering. I almost always Pause at the end of a minute, then have the client open eyes or hand him/her the book or give instructions again, etc. Once they have settled into the new state, I just click on Play again and restart the data gathering. I've also been able to use it when a client was starting to cough or yawn (I keep the cursor right over the Pause key), to avoid getting some excess artifact in the sample. Pete Groups Sponsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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