Butch

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I'm not a big cheese, Butch, haven't been on this Group but 6 months, but have learned that plenty go through depression and this is a good place to talk about it, folks can help and steer you in the right direction.. Hang In! Hugs, Sheena elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Like Jackie said , we are here to support no matter what . And we all go through times

when we need each other , that is our purpose . sorry Hey Jax,Sheena and who else runs this site, Also to everyone on site if you post this. There is no need to post unless you want. If I haven't already I will start writing sad and depressing post's, I do not want to

do that so I think in my case if ok by you all I will only respond if something catch's my eye or tugs at my heart. I will try and keep things brief and upbeat "if possible".I am worried I will where out my welcome here and do not want to, this has been a very helpfull site for me. The problem is I used to be this fun loveing happy guy that everyone liked to hang with. I found life and dove in eyes wide open and had an unbelievable adventure.There was nothing I could not do. Positive thaughts bring positive results. I went from a ninth grade drop out to running highly scientific research ships, I owned or managed small and large buisness's and corporations,I was living proof it can be done if you set your mind to it. Now that I have been fighting this fight for so long I have been beaten down and become this miserable person that I don't even like. I try and try but it's just not working,I know I will eventually

spread this poisen to your site if I am not carefull.I very much want to be part of this and do solemly swear to keep posts short and positive.My life has been amazing and have no regrets.Thank you so much,I have not given up I just know me.Hope you all have half the adventure I have had in life,It truly is an amazing thing.take care....Butch

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I'm not a big cheese, Butch, haven't been on this Group but 6 months, but have learned that plenty go through depression and this is a good place to talk about it, folks can help and steer you in the right direction.. Hang In! Hugs, Sheena elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Like Jackie said , we are here to support no matter what . And we all go through times

when we need each other , that is our purpose . sorry Hey Jax,Sheena and who else runs this site, Also to everyone on site if you post this. There is no need to post unless you want. If I haven't already I will start writing sad and depressing post's, I do not want to

do that so I think in my case if ok by you all I will only respond if something catch's my eye or tugs at my heart. I will try and keep things brief and upbeat "if possible".I am worried I will where out my welcome here and do not want to, this has been a very helpfull site for me. The problem is I used to be this fun loveing happy guy that everyone liked to hang with. I found life and dove in eyes wide open and had an unbelievable adventure.There was nothing I could not do. Positive thaughts bring positive results. I went from a ninth grade drop out to running highly scientific research ships, I owned or managed small and large buisness's and corporations,I was living proof it can be done if you set your mind to it. Now that I have been fighting this fight for so long I have been beaten down and become this miserable person that I don't even like. I try and try but it's just not working,I know I will eventually

spread this poisen to your site if I am not carefull.I very much want to be part of this and do solemly swear to keep posts short and positive.My life has been amazing and have no regrets.Thank you so much,I have not given up I just know me.Hope you all have half the adventure I have had in life,It truly is an amazing thing.take care....Butch

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I'm not a big cheese, Butch, haven't been on this Group but 6 months, but have learned that plenty go through depression and this is a good place to talk about it, folks can help and steer you in the right direction.. Hang In! Hugs, Sheena elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Like Jackie said , we are here to support no matter what . And we all go through times

when we need each other , that is our purpose . sorry Hey Jax,Sheena and who else runs this site, Also to everyone on site if you post this. There is no need to post unless you want. If I haven't already I will start writing sad and depressing post's, I do not want to

do that so I think in my case if ok by you all I will only respond if something catch's my eye or tugs at my heart. I will try and keep things brief and upbeat "if possible".I am worried I will where out my welcome here and do not want to, this has been a very helpfull site for me. The problem is I used to be this fun loveing happy guy that everyone liked to hang with. I found life and dove in eyes wide open and had an unbelievable adventure.There was nothing I could not do. Positive thaughts bring positive results. I went from a ninth grade drop out to running highly scientific research ships, I owned or managed small and large buisness's and corporations,I was living proof it can be done if you set your mind to it. Now that I have been fighting this fight for so long I have been beaten down and become this miserable person that I don't even like. I try and try but it's just not working,I know I will eventually

spread this poisen to your site if I am not carefull.I very much want to be part of this and do solemly swear to keep posts short and positive.My life has been amazing and have no regrets.Thank you so much,I have not given up I just know me.Hope you all have half the adventure I have had in life,It truly is an amazing thing.take care....Butch

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I'm not a big cheese, Butch, haven't been on this Group but 6 months, but have learned that plenty go through depression and this is a good place to talk about it, folks can help and steer you in the right direction.. Hang In! Hugs, Sheena elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Like Jackie said , we are here to support no matter what . And we all go through times

when we need each other , that is our purpose . sorry Hey Jax,Sheena and who else runs this site, Also to everyone on site if you post this. There is no need to post unless you want. If I haven't already I will start writing sad and depressing post's, I do not want to

do that so I think in my case if ok by you all I will only respond if something catch's my eye or tugs at my heart. I will try and keep things brief and upbeat "if possible".I am worried I will where out my welcome here and do not want to, this has been a very helpfull site for me. The problem is I used to be this fun loveing happy guy that everyone liked to hang with. I found life and dove in eyes wide open and had an unbelievable adventure.There was nothing I could not do. Positive thaughts bring positive results. I went from a ninth grade drop out to running highly scientific research ships, I owned or managed small and large buisness's and corporations,I was living proof it can be done if you set your mind to it. Now that I have been fighting this fight for so long I have been beaten down and become this miserable person that I don't even like. I try and try but it's just not working,I know I will eventually

spread this poisen to your site if I am not carefull.I very much want to be part of this and do solemly swear to keep posts short and positive.My life has been amazing and have no regrets.Thank you so much,I have not given up I just know me.Hope you all have half the adventure I have had in life,It truly is an amazing thing.take care....Butch

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I'm not a big cheese, Butch, haven't been on this Group but 6 months, but have learned that plenty go through depression and this is a good place to talk about it, folks can help and steer you in the right direction.. Hang In! Hugs, Sheena elizabethnv1 <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Like Jackie said , we are here to support no matter what . And we all go through times

when we need each other , that is our purpose . sorry Hey Jax,Sheena and who else runs this site, Also to everyone on site if you post this. There is no need to post unless you want. If I haven't already I will start writing sad and depressing post's, I do not want to

do that so I think in my case if ok by you all I will only respond if something catch's my eye or tugs at my heart. I will try and keep things brief and upbeat "if possible".I am worried I will where out my welcome here and do not want to, this has been a very helpfull site for me. The problem is I used to be this fun loveing happy guy that everyone liked to hang with. I found life and dove in eyes wide open and had an unbelievable adventure.There was nothing I could not do. Positive thaughts bring positive results. I went from a ninth grade drop out to running highly scientific research ships, I owned or managed small and large buisness's and corporations,I was living proof it can be done if you set your mind to it. Now that I have been fighting this fight for so long I have been beaten down and become this miserable person that I don't even like. I try and try but it's just not working,I know I will eventually

spread this poisen to your site if I am not carefull.I very much want to be part of this and do solemly swear to keep posts short and positive.My life has been amazing and have no regrets.Thank you so much,I have not given up I just know me.Hope you all have half the adventure I have had in life,It truly is an amazing thing.take care....Butch

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Butch, Have you consulted another attorney? I had a friend that used Binder and Binder [1-800-66BINDER] after she was denied twice. They ddin't charge a cent until the case was won.. They do use their own doctors. Best of luck to you.. Sheena butchholland2002 <butchholland2002@...> wrote: Thanks Sheena and Jax,Sheena: Not a whole lot of hope in my world, Thanks for

careingJax: From what I understood after you started treatment your bones went bad,This is my problem too,Had small bone problem that turned into cripling after first injection.I had three rounds of intrerferion and at start of each round bones went off the charts and stayed there,At this point just one injection and an hour later I would be whealchair bound.I don't kmow what you meant by tx, guessing interferion with ribovarion? My insurance was private insurance through company I worked for on research ships. I tried to appeal but did not work,My Ex dr. kept blocking it by saying people can work with hep even at stage 2 and possibly 3 cerossis. Ther doctor and my doctor talked a lot,Theres is from florida and I never met him but putting 2and2 together my doctor is probably driving a new lexus now ??? I am getting too close to liver transplant stage so time for me to go, They did it at christmas so I would be broke

and not be able to go to anymore doctors, Now no attorney will touch it because I can't go to more dr's. Anyway on second try with ssdi and may get an income in 5 months or turned down,Texas is a hard state expecialy for single male.I will never go to dr.s again till forced but that is whole other letter, Told you all I have a short novel to tell and this is just the easy part. Thank you both so muchButch > Thank you for letting me join, I should have done it a long time ago.> My name is Butch and my story is very long.I don't want to have you > read a small novel right now so I will do it in smaller amounts.> I have had Hep C Geniotype i-A since jan,3rd 1995 at 3:35 PM when I > started gettting a pain in my liver. It must have come from a blood > transfusion when I was 6.Last year I was stage 2 cerossis. I can't > take interferion, Tried 3 times and each time it sends a bone problem > thru the roof.This year my Amonia levels went too high and on medicine > to help

but not working.Been on private disability since end of 1999 > when I had to be flown back to the states because I could not do my > job On research ships.The day after christmas 2006 a letter that I > was cancled because I look good? I was in extreme shape before is why > I look good? I'll stop for now but would like to ask one question.> Has anyone had a sevier bone problem that systematacly worked it's way > thru there body's over many years of fighting Hep C. I feel like the > first person to survive a limb chipper. 1 Dr. says it is the Hep and > the next DR. says imposible.anyone with any bone problems please let > me know.Thanks again and have a fantastic day...Butch> > > > > > > Jackie>

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Butch, Have you consulted another attorney? I had a friend that used Binder and Binder [1-800-66BINDER] after she was denied twice. They ddin't charge a cent until the case was won.. They do use their own doctors. Best of luck to you.. Sheena butchholland2002 <butchholland2002@...> wrote: Thanks Sheena and Jax,Sheena: Not a whole lot of hope in my world, Thanks for

careingJax: From what I understood after you started treatment your bones went bad,This is my problem too,Had small bone problem that turned into cripling after first injection.I had three rounds of intrerferion and at start of each round bones went off the charts and stayed there,At this point just one injection and an hour later I would be whealchair bound.I don't kmow what you meant by tx, guessing interferion with ribovarion? My insurance was private insurance through company I worked for on research ships. I tried to appeal but did not work,My Ex dr. kept blocking it by saying people can work with hep even at stage 2 and possibly 3 cerossis. Ther doctor and my doctor talked a lot,Theres is from florida and I never met him but putting 2and2 together my doctor is probably driving a new lexus now ??? I am getting too close to liver transplant stage so time for me to go, They did it at christmas so I would be broke

and not be able to go to anymore doctors, Now no attorney will touch it because I can't go to more dr's. Anyway on second try with ssdi and may get an income in 5 months or turned down,Texas is a hard state expecialy for single male.I will never go to dr.s again till forced but that is whole other letter, Told you all I have a short novel to tell and this is just the easy part. Thank you both so muchButch > Thank you for letting me join, I should have done it a long time ago.> My name is Butch and my story is very long.I don't want to have you > read a small novel right now so I will do it in smaller amounts.> I have had Hep C Geniotype i-A since jan,3rd 1995 at 3:35 PM when I > started gettting a pain in my liver. It must have come from a blood > transfusion when I was 6.Last year I was stage 2 cerossis. I can't > take interferion, Tried 3 times and each time it sends a bone problem > thru the roof.This year my Amonia levels went too high and on medicine > to help

but not working.Been on private disability since end of 1999 > when I had to be flown back to the states because I could not do my > job On research ships.The day after christmas 2006 a letter that I > was cancled because I look good? I was in extreme shape before is why > I look good? I'll stop for now but would like to ask one question.> Has anyone had a sevier bone problem that systematacly worked it's way > thru there body's over many years of fighting Hep C. I feel like the > first person to survive a limb chipper. 1 Dr. says it is the Hep and > the next DR. says imposible.anyone with any bone problems please let > me know.Thanks again and have a fantastic day...Butch> > > > > > > Jackie>

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Butch, Have you consulted another attorney? I had a friend that used Binder and Binder [1-800-66BINDER] after she was denied twice. They ddin't charge a cent until the case was won.. They do use their own doctors. Best of luck to you.. Sheena butchholland2002 <butchholland2002@...> wrote: Thanks Sheena and Jax,Sheena: Not a whole lot of hope in my world, Thanks for

careingJax: From what I understood after you started treatment your bones went bad,This is my problem too,Had small bone problem that turned into cripling after first injection.I had three rounds of intrerferion and at start of each round bones went off the charts and stayed there,At this point just one injection and an hour later I would be whealchair bound.I don't kmow what you meant by tx, guessing interferion with ribovarion? My insurance was private insurance through company I worked for on research ships. I tried to appeal but did not work,My Ex dr. kept blocking it by saying people can work with hep even at stage 2 and possibly 3 cerossis. Ther doctor and my doctor talked a lot,Theres is from florida and I never met him but putting 2and2 together my doctor is probably driving a new lexus now ??? I am getting too close to liver transplant stage so time for me to go, They did it at christmas so I would be broke

and not be able to go to anymore doctors, Now no attorney will touch it because I can't go to more dr's. Anyway on second try with ssdi and may get an income in 5 months or turned down,Texas is a hard state expecialy for single male.I will never go to dr.s again till forced but that is whole other letter, Told you all I have a short novel to tell and this is just the easy part. Thank you both so muchButch > Thank you for letting me join, I should have done it a long time ago.> My name is Butch and my story is very long.I don't want to have you > read a small novel right now so I will do it in smaller amounts.> I have had Hep C Geniotype i-A since jan,3rd 1995 at 3:35 PM when I > started gettting a pain in my liver. It must have come from a blood > transfusion when I was 6.Last year I was stage 2 cerossis. I can't > take interferion, Tried 3 times and each time it sends a bone problem > thru the roof.This year my Amonia levels went too high and on medicine > to help

but not working.Been on private disability since end of 1999 > when I had to be flown back to the states because I could not do my > job On research ships.The day after christmas 2006 a letter that I > was cancled because I look good? I was in extreme shape before is why > I look good? I'll stop for now but would like to ask one question.> Has anyone had a sevier bone problem that systematacly worked it's way > thru there body's over many years of fighting Hep C. I feel like the > first person to survive a limb chipper. 1 Dr. says it is the Hep and > the next DR. says imposible.anyone with any bone problems please let > me know.Thanks again and have a fantastic day...Butch> > > > > > > Jackie>

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Sheena, thats a great idea,, I could only remember the name of the group I used,, but Binder and Binder is another good one.. thanks for posting this! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Butch, Have you consulted another attorney? I had a friend that used Binder and Binder [1-800-66BINDER] after she was denied twice. They ddin't charge a cent until the case was won.. They do use their own doctors. Best of luck to

you.. Sheena butchholland2002 <butchholland2002 > wrote: Thanks Sheena and Jax,Sheena: Not a whole lot of hope in my world, Thanks for careingJax: From what I understood after you started treatment your bones went bad,This is my problem too,Had small bone problem that turned into cripling after first injection.I had three rounds of intrerferion and at start of each round bones went off the charts and stayed there,At this point just one injection and an hour later I would be whealchair bound.I don't kmow what you meant by tx, guessing interferion with ribovarion? My insurance was private insurance through company I worked for on research ships. I tried to appeal but did not work,My Ex dr. kept blocking it by

saying people can work with hep even at stage 2 and possibly 3 cerossis. Ther doctor and my doctor talked a lot,Theres is from florida and I never met him but putting 2and2 together my doctor is probably driving a new lexus now ??? I am getting too close to liver transplant stage so time for me to go, They did it at christmas so I would be broke and not be able to go to anymore doctors, Now no attorney will touch it because I can't go to more dr's. Anyway on second try with ssdi and may get an income in 5 months or turned down,Texas is a hard state expecialy for single male.I will never go to dr.s again till forced but that is whole other letter, Told you all I have a short novel to tell and this is just the easy part. Thank you both so muchButch > Thank you for letting me join, I should have done it a long time ago.> My name is Butch and my story is very long.I don't want to have you > read a small novel right now so I will do it in smaller amounts.> I have had Hep C Geniotype i-A

since jan,3rd 1995 at 3:35 PM when I > started gettting a pain in my liver. It must have come from a blood > transfusion when I was 6.Last year I was stage 2 cerossis. I can't > take interferion, Tried 3 times and each time it sends a bone problem > thru the roof.This year my Amonia levels went too high and on medicine > to help but not working.Been on private disability since end of 1999 > when I had to be flown back to the states because I could not do my > job On research ships.The day after christmas 2006 a letter that I > was cancled because I look good? I was in extreme shape before is why > I look good? I'll stop for now but would like to ask one question.> Has anyone had a sevier bone problem that systematacly worked it's way > thru there body's over many years of fighting Hep C. I feel like the > first person to survive a limb chipper. 1 Dr. says

it is the Hep and > the next DR. says imposible.anyone with any bone problems please let > me know.Thanks again and have a fantastic day...Butch> > > > > > > Jackie> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Jackie

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Butch, you WILL NOT wear out your welcome here. We're all here to Bi--- about some aspect of this dang disease. That's what the group is for---to give the best info available on HepC and to give as much emotional support that we can. We've all had to battle some how or other.

It took my about 2 years, I think to get my disability in place. I went to a lawyer right off and willingly paid her fee when it was over. I started trying myself, but the bearuacracy that handles that sort of thing is a mindless machine. NO human feeling or interaction at all. The lawyer was well worth her fee. I also got back pay for allll the months of waiting while the machine churned my case out, which was a great bonus.

Sharon

Hey Jax,Sheena and who else runs this site, Also to everyone on site if you post this. There is no need to post unless you want. If I haven't already I will start writing sad and depressing post's, I do not want to do that so I think in my case if ok by you all I will only respond if something catch's my eye or tugs at my heart. I will try and keep things brief and upbeat "if possible".I am worried I will where out my welcome here and do not want to, this has been a very helpfull site for me. The problem is I used to be this fun loveing happy guy that everyone liked to hang with. I found life and dove in eyes wide open and had an unbelievable adventure.There was nothing I could not do. Positive thaughts bring positive results. I went from a ninth grade drop out to running highly scientific research ships, I owned or managed small and large buisness's and corporations,I was living proof it can be done if you set your mind to it. Now that I have been fighting this fight for so long I have been beaten down and become this miserable person that I don't even like. I try and try but it's just not working,I know I will eventually spread this poisen to your site if I am not carefull.I very much want to be part of this and do solemly swear to keep posts short and positive.My life has been amazing and have no regrets.Thank you so much,I have not given up I just know me.Hope you all have half the adventure I have had in life,It truly is an amazing thing.take care....Butch

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Last Thursday we had to put our cat, Butch down. He had cancer of the liver and

in 1 1/2 months had lost 1/2 his body weight. You could feel every bone in his

body. I tried to hold off but he was suffering, his urine was a vary dark burnt

orange color........he just laid around, could barely walk and had stopped

eating...... anyway.....Nic keeps looking for him and asking about him. I tell

him Butch was sick. Nic said take to Dr., I say we did but Dr couldn't make him

better. Finally I told him " Butch died " . He yells " NO! " and continues to look

for him. I don't know what else to tell him....

Di

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Di, I am so sorry to hear this. We have 2 cats too, and I am sure Olivia doesn't

understand death, and I don't know how she would react if one of these guys were

to suddenly not be here. I hope Nic gets better with time.

 

Patty

From: Di <drf218@...>

Subject: Butch

" Upsndowns " < >

Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 7:47 AM

 

Last Thursday we had to put our cat, Butch down. He had cancer of the liver and

in 1 1/2 months had lost 1/2 his body weight. You could feel every bone in his

body. I tried to hold off but he was suffering, his urine was a vary dark burnt

orange color....... .he just laid around, could barely walk and had stopped

eating...... anyway.....Nic keeps looking for him and asking about him. I tell

him Butch was sick. Nic said take to Dr., I say we did but Dr couldn't make him

better. Finally I told him " Butch died " . He yells " NO! " and continues to look

for him. I don't know what else to tell him....

Di

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yesterday morning we came down stairs and in the dim light he thought he saw

Butch (it was really his tshirt he left lying on the floor. Hey ran over,

made an excited gasp (like, there you are) then when he realized it wasn't

him, he was sad. I said, " Nic, Butch is not coming home " and he yelled at

me so I guess he is entering the anger stage.

Di

Re: Butch

> Nic is in the first stage of grief ... denial. Next comes anger, then

> bargaining, then acceptance. Just give him time to go through those stages

> and he will be okay. Grieving is part of the healing process.

>

> granny

>

> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Di <drf218@...> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Last Thursday we had to put our cat, Butch down. He had cancer of the

>> liver

>> and in 1 1/2 months had lost 1/2 his body weight. You could feel every

>> bone

>> in his body. I tried to hold off but he was suffering, his urine was a

>> vary

>> dark burnt orange color........he just laid around, could barely walk and

>> had stopped eating...... anyway.....Nic keeps looking for him and asking

>> about him. I tell him Butch was sick. Nic said take to Dr., I say we did

>> but

>> Dr couldn't make him better. Finally I told him " Butch died " . He yells

>> " NO! "

>> and continues to look for him. I don't know what else to tell him....

>>

>> Di

>>

>>