Question about Alpha Asymmetry

[Guest guest]

Jane,

There really isn't yet a way to do this to my knowledge using BrainMaster

software. You would need to use BioExplorer or Scope MP software packages

to do alpha coherence training. You could do a 2-channel approximation of

this by, as you suggest, training alpha up and beta down at F4/Cz and

training beta up and alpha down at F3/Cz. Make sure you actually have a

significant alpha asymmetry (higher at F3 than F4) before doing this.

Pete

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Question about Alpha Asymmetry

Pete,

For reversal, your sheet suggests trying the alpha asymmetry protocol at

F3/F4 referenced to Cz. I don't know what the means re: setting up the

machine. Is it just training alpha up at F3/F4? And there are no inhibits?

Thanks,

Jane

[Guest guest]

Pete and Jane,

Actually, we have some good progress to report

on alpha asymmetry using the BrainMaster. As it

turns out, the ratio-based training is not necessary,

and actually seems to be inferior to a robust amplitude-based

method that uses asymmetry. I rethought this method,

and came up with a method that works even faster,

without using a formula-based approach. I've discussed

it with Rosenfeld, the creator of the ratio-based

approach, at length, and it seems that we have a very

novel and powerful method. The aggregate rate of

feedback is in the 10% vicinity, which is also very

different from conventional wisdom. We are breaking

some rules here, and breaking new ground in the process.

Elsa Baehr and I did a workshop at ISNR last week,

showing the protocol we developed for the BrainMaster

2.0 software. It seems to do in 5 to 10 sessions what

the classical ratio-based training takes 20 to 40 sessions

to do. So we're very enthusiastic, and are submitting

research proposals to fund controlled studies.

The protocol, " asym " , is built into the new 2.0SE

software which is free to download and use by any

2.0 users. Just go to

www.brainm.com/software/2.0SE

and download and install the new software. Use

the new built-in protocol " asym " and use the leads

recommended. Use with care, this is a very powerful

protocol.

Tom

Question about alpha coherence

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> Here's an old note from Pete. I'm wondering if anyone has since

> figured out how to alpha assymetry training on bioexplore.

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> Jane

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> I know has been working with Elsa Baehr on developing a

> protocol that meets her criteria on Scope MP, which would, of course,

> work on BrainMaster. I think Tom may also have been trying to

> develop a protocol for it, but currently the Bio Explorer version is

> the only one.

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> The problem is that you need to give feedback on alpha at (F4 minus

> F3) divided by (F4 plus F3), giving feedback when the result is

> greater than zero. Both sites referenced to Cz. I'm not sure why

> just training F4 minus F3 greater than zero wouldn't give you the

> same result.

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> The Bio Explorer's ability to train on formulas like that makes it

> ideal. The problem with the feedback can be resolved by changing the

> feedback. I've played with it since spending some time with Elsa in

> ton in June, and it's not difficult to make the feedback more

> usable for the client (even if less impressive sonically.)

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> Pete

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[Guest guest]

Tom,

Can you please describe what the amplitude-based method does in more detail?

The sensor sites are F3 and F4?.

The reference is Cz?

The amplitude of F3-Cz is compared to F4-Cz in the alpha range and set so that F3-Cz is smaller than F4-Cz?

Thanks,

M. Goldstein, Ph.D.

Question about alpha coherence> ,> > Here's an old note from Pete. I'm wondering if anyone has since > figured out how to alpha assymetry training on bioexplore.> > Jane> > > ******************> > I know has been working with Elsa Baehr on developing a > protocol that meets her criteria on Scope MP, which would, of course, > work on BrainMaster. I think Tom may also have been trying to > develop a protocol for it, but currently the Bio Explorer version is > the only one.> > The problem is that you need to give feedback on alpha at (F4 minus > F3) divided by (F4 plus F3), giving feedback when the result is > greater than zero. Both sites referenced to Cz. I'm not sure why > just training F4 minus F3 greater than zero wouldn't give you the > same result. > > The Bio Explorer's ability to train on formulas like that makes it > ideal. The problem with the feedback can be resolved by changing the > feedback. I've played with it since spending some time with Elsa in > ton in June, and it's not difficult to make the feedback more > usable for the client (even if less impressive sonically.)> > Pete> > > > > > >