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Emails I submitted on the forum did not go through. I never cursed on

a posts Tom. Now your lieing!

I think if you want a real debate without the games you play we will

have to go on another forum. You have attached everythign about my

self-advocacy while I get supported elsewhere. Your not even relevent

to these cotnracts, services or my specific micro-minority group.

And no, no one stole my password and posted things I did'nt either.

Produce the post that cursed as evidence with my I.P. Otherwise

enough with it, Tom your a bit manipulative.

I've already apologised in hpes you might just reconsider and stop

jumping all over what I am doing with every little things. From the

title, to the advocacy, to saying I have a temper to other all out

attacks. From the start you have been a total behind.

This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent..

>

> " Seems as though Tom only allows certain emails through. The emails

> he does not let through he argues by turning it around on me the

same

> things I argue about him. It's like a punching bag in a way, I have

> my hands tied behind my back and he punches without allowing me to

> defend myself. "

>

> Every single e-mail you have sent since you resumed posting has

gone

> through. During your past visits I have deleted some due to

> profanity.

>

> " It is unfortunite the only two people out of 1,200 that have had

> problems with an innocent press release. It's just creative self-

> advocacy. I've been called brave in my efforts in advocacy by people

> who work with individuals with autism and me and other developmental

> disabilities.

>

> " It's estranging. I've already apologised for the confussions but he

> won't let the email go through. Likely becuase he has me framed as

> someone with a temper and wants me seen that way. "

>

> Nope. I was offline. I told you in one of the prior posts that you

> were still on moderation, and if your posts did not go through

right

> away, it was because I did not have time to review them. That is

the

> case here.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>

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"And no, no one stole my password and posted things I did'nt either.Produce the post that cursed as evidence with my I.P. Otherwiseenough with it, Tom your a bit manipulative."

Those posts were deleted the last time you were here because I had you on moderation, but I imagine Raven still has the e-mails where you called her names.

However, you have provided your own evidence below in which you call me a "total behind." Of course, that is not as nasty as you have been, but it is close. I my opinion it is poor strategy to revert to name calling even as you allege you do not do so in the same post.

"I've already apologised in hpes you might just reconsider and stopjumping all over what I am doing with every little things."

I have reconsidered everything you have said, and I still hold the same opinions. I see nothing wrong with holding my own view since holding one's viewpoints is what YOU are clamoring for in your Big Brother initiative. Why do you have a problem when people refute your viewpoint ?

"From the title, to the advocacy, to saying I have a temper to other all out attacks. From the start you have been a total behind.""This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent.."

I know. Whenever someone disagrees with you, they then become irrelevant. Which begs the question, how can you advocate for people whom you deem irrelevant ?

Tom

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Damn right time.. You are a back stabber and will make up stories and even block my posts... I want you to prove these accusations becuase you are going well out of your way to damn what I do fro mthe start and then accuse me falsly. PErhaps people see a part of you they have not before. I've gotten support emails in the past for standing up to you as well.Just you tom not them but just you who are irrelevent. You like inventing into me when I talk to you that I do this to others when I argue becuase you want to play the victim.environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: "And no, no one stole my password and posted things I did'nt either.Produce the post that cursed as evidence with my I.P. Otherwiseenough with it, Tom your a bit manipulative." Those posts were deleted the last time you were here because I had you on moderation, but I imagine Raven still has the e-mails where you called her names. However, you have provided your own evidence below in which you call me a "total behind." Of course, that is not as nasty as you have been, but it is close. I my opinion it is poor strategy to revert to name calling even as you allege you do not do so in the same post. "I've already apologised in hpes you might just reconsider and

stopjumping all over what I am doing with every little things." I have reconsidered everything you have said, and I still hold the same opinions. I see nothing wrong with holding my own view since holding one's viewpoints is what YOU are clamoring for in your Big Brother initiative. Why do you have a problem when people refute your viewpoint ? "From the title, to the advocacy, to saying I have a temper to other all out attacks. From the start you have been a total behind.""This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent.." I know. Whenever someone disagrees with you, they then become irrelevant. Which begs the question, how can you advocate for people whom you deem irrelevant ? Tom Administrator Turning In Big BrotherMy

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" Damn right time.. You are a back stabber and will make up stories and

even block my posts... I want you to prove these accusations becuase

you are going well out of your way to damn what I do fro mthe start

and then accuse me falsly. "

Not falsely .

" PErhaps people see a part of you they have not before. I've gotten

support emails in the past for standing up to you as well.

" Just you tom not them but just you who are irrelevent. You like

inventing into me when I talk to you that I do this to others when I

argue becuase you want to play the victim. "

, you are the one playing the victim here. You have a history of

it.

I've put you on moderation, has, and I am not sure who else

has.

You have a history of taking issue with everyone who does not agree

with you and then whining that WE play the victim when we post proof

to hold up our arguments.

You also tend to hound the moderators here...

Post 28245...

Re: Re: Why Money Is The Root of Allot of Evil

(bad)

You said....

In a message dated 12/17/2006 7:02:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nathaninfortuna@... writes:

has gone as far as defending slave owners treatment of African

Americans. As if they were treated so kindly by there white masters

working sde by side. I just can't respect him for his defence of a

time when human rights violations were ignored, the essencial

liberties of black americans non-existent and arragont remarks about

Yankee propaganda against slavery.

I think if Sir. in his prestige and now clear reverse

discrimination against N.T's is an accepted philosphy I'd prefer to be

no longer here. Really, it's a bad representation of the leadership of

this group.

When he speaks of N.T's and damns this so called neuro-typological

group it's shows his ignorance. The pattern of behaviour is quite

clear, the man is discrimatory towards multiple groups, the last the

N.T group which includes the great majority of people. It's a pumpus

attitude of a superiorist narcisist and needs to be spoken against.

And replied....

, Give it a rest. I stood down from discussing this with you but

you obviously won't let go. You insist on twisting my words and

continuing to insult me.

Therefore, since you show you can not behave with decorum, if you act

like this again, I will put you on moderation.

And I personally don't have the energy to keep this up. It is time for

you to be banned.

Tom

Administrator

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" Damn right time.. You are a back stabber and will make up stories and

even block my posts... I want you to prove these accusations becuase

you are going well out of your way to damn what I do fro mthe start

and then accuse me falsly. "

Not falsely .

" PErhaps people see a part of you they have not before. I've gotten

support emails in the past for standing up to you as well.

" Just you tom not them but just you who are irrelevent. You like

inventing into me when I talk to you that I do this to others when I

argue becuase you want to play the victim. "

, you are the one playing the victim here. You have a history of

it.

I've put you on moderation, has, and I am not sure who else

has.

You have a history of taking issue with everyone who does not agree

with you and then whining that WE play the victim when we post proof

to hold up our arguments.

You also tend to hound the moderators here...

Post 28245...

Re: Re: Why Money Is The Root of Allot of Evil

(bad)

You said....

In a message dated 12/17/2006 7:02:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

nathaninfortuna@... writes:

has gone as far as defending slave owners treatment of African

Americans. As if they were treated so kindly by there white masters

working sde by side. I just can't respect him for his defence of a

time when human rights violations were ignored, the essencial

liberties of black americans non-existent and arragont remarks about

Yankee propaganda against slavery.

I think if Sir. in his prestige and now clear reverse

discrimination against N.T's is an accepted philosphy I'd prefer to be

no longer here. Really, it's a bad representation of the leadership of

this group.

When he speaks of N.T's and damns this so called neuro-typological

group it's shows his ignorance. The pattern of behaviour is quite

clear, the man is discrimatory towards multiple groups, the last the

N.T group which includes the great majority of people. It's a pumpus

attitude of a superiorist narcisist and needs to be spoken against.

And replied....

, Give it a rest. I stood down from discussing this with you but

you obviously won't let go. You insist on twisting my words and

continuing to insult me.

Therefore, since you show you can not behave with decorum, if you act

like this again, I will put you on moderation.

And I personally don't have the energy to keep this up. It is time for

you to be banned.

Tom

Administrator

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That's it... It's clear Tom.. It's racial issues that are the problem.. I thought so as ever since those arguements (which people emailed me saying william was a bigot and I thought that was harsh) things got bad between you, I and . Also stop reversing things on me, you have to be more original. also saying I am whinning is an insult. I don't whin I advocate.Seeming you made the issue clear with me with concern to the "racial issue" and my having so many supporters with it this arguement is finished. I understand now..environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: "Damn right time.. You are a back stabber and will make up stories and even block my posts... I want you to prove these accusations becuase you are going well out of your way to damn what I do fro mthe start and then accuse me falsly."Not falsely ."PErhaps people see a part of you they have not before. I've gotten support emails in the past for standing up to you as well."Just you tom not them but just you who are irrelevent. You like inventing into me when I talk to you that I do this to others when I argue becuase you want to play the victim.", you are the one playing the victim here. You have a history of it.

I've put you on moderation, has, and I am not sure who else has.You have a history of taking issue with everyone who does not agree with you and then whining that WE play the victim when we post proof to hold up our arguments.You also tend to hound the moderators here...Post 28245...Re: Re: Why Money Is The Root of Allot of Evil (bad) You said....In a message dated 12/17/2006 7:02:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nathaninfortuna writes: has gone as far as defending slave owners treatment of African Americans. As if they were treated so kindly by there white masters working sde by side. I just can't respect him for his defence of a time when human rights violations were ignored, the essencial liberties of black americans non-existent and arragont remarks about Yankee propaganda

against slavery.I think if Sir. in his prestige and now clear reverse discrimination against N.T's is an accepted philosphy I'd prefer to be no longer here. Really, it's a bad representation of the leadership of this group.When he speaks of N.T's and damns this so called neuro-typological group it's shows his ignorance. The pattern of behaviour is quite clear, the man is discrimatory towards multiple groups, the last the N.T group which includes the great majority of people. It's a pumpus attitude of a superiorist narcisist and needs to be spoken against.And replied...., Give it a rest. I stood down from discussing this with you but you obviously won't let go. You insist on twisting my words and continuing to insult me. Therefore, since you show you can not behave with decorum, if you act like this again, I will put you on moderation. And I

personally don't have the energy to keep this up. It is time for you to be banned.TomAdministrator

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That's it... It's clear Tom.. It's racial issues that are the problem.. I thought so as ever since those arguements (which people emailed me saying william was a bigot and I thought that was harsh) things got bad between you, I and . Also stop reversing things on me, you have to be more original. also saying I am whinning is an insult. I don't whin I advocate.Seeming you made the issue clear with me with concern to the "racial issue" and my having so many supporters with it this arguement is finished. I understand now..environmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: "Damn right time.. You are a back stabber and will make up stories and even block my posts... I want you to prove these accusations becuase you are going well out of your way to damn what I do fro mthe start and then accuse me falsly."Not falsely ."PErhaps people see a part of you they have not before. I've gotten support emails in the past for standing up to you as well."Just you tom not them but just you who are irrelevent. You like inventing into me when I talk to you that I do this to others when I argue becuase you want to play the victim.", you are the one playing the victim here. You have a history of it.

I've put you on moderation, has, and I am not sure who else has.You have a history of taking issue with everyone who does not agree with you and then whining that WE play the victim when we post proof to hold up our arguments.You also tend to hound the moderators here...Post 28245...Re: Re: Why Money Is The Root of Allot of Evil (bad) You said....In a message dated 12/17/2006 7:02:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, nathaninfortuna writes: has gone as far as defending slave owners treatment of African Americans. As if they were treated so kindly by there white masters working sde by side. I just can't respect him for his defence of a time when human rights violations were ignored, the essencial liberties of black americans non-existent and arragont remarks about Yankee propaganda

against slavery.I think if Sir. in his prestige and now clear reverse discrimination against N.T's is an accepted philosphy I'd prefer to be no longer here. Really, it's a bad representation of the leadership of this group.When he speaks of N.T's and damns this so called neuro-typological group it's shows his ignorance. The pattern of behaviour is quite clear, the man is discrimatory towards multiple groups, the last the N.T group which includes the great majority of people. It's a pumpus attitude of a superiorist narcisist and needs to be spoken against.And replied...., Give it a rest. I stood down from discussing this with you but you obviously won't let go. You insist on twisting my words and continuing to insult me. Therefore, since you show you can not behave with decorum, if you act like this again, I will put you on moderation. And I

personally don't have the energy to keep this up. It is time for you to be banned.TomAdministrator

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That's it... It's clear Tom.. It's racial issues that are the

problem..

<Snip>

I'm involved in an inter-racial, inter-religious romantic relationship

.

No racism is tolerated here and never was.

Tom

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That's it... It's clear Tom.. It's racial issues that are the

problem..

<Snip>

I'm involved in an inter-racial, inter-religious romantic relationship

.

No racism is tolerated here and never was.

Tom

Administrator

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I didn’t say you were a racist but the sensitive topic was sourced from your psyche with regards to our current argument. You know me to idolize Luther King Jr. Some of the things said seemed to take a liking to the history of slavery. Its likely best not to discuss the topic as it is worth to many hours of writing. It all comes down to a histological embarrassment of slavery and the need to feel to protect the American image. environmental1st2003 <no_reply >

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I didn’t say you were a racist but the sensitive topic was sourced from your psyche with regards to our current argument. You know me to idolize Luther King Jr. Some of the things said seemed to take a liking to the history of slavery. Its likely best not to discuss the topic as it is worth to many hours of writing. It all comes down to a histological embarrassment of slavery and the need to feel to protect the American image. environmental1st2003 <no_reply >

wrote: That's it... It's clear Tom.. It's racial issues that are the problem.. <Snip>I'm involved in an inter-racial, inter-religious romantic relationship . No racism is tolerated here and never was. TomAdministrator

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" Some of the things said seemed to take a liking to the

history of slavery. "

is a history buff. His mother is a history teacher.

was talking about the advantages to slavery during that period in

time. He was not approving of it. Merely stating that at that point in

time in history, slavery was acceptable to the people in that era for

the reasons he gave.

Tom

Administrator

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" Some of the things said seemed to take a liking to the

history of slavery. "

is a history buff. His mother is a history teacher.

was talking about the advantages to slavery during that period in

time. He was not approving of it. Merely stating that at that point in

time in history, slavery was acceptable to the people in that era for

the reasons he gave.

Tom

Administrator

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The opinion of many civil rights era folks I have beared witness to is any positive inclination towards it are racist. In many ways the way in which it was being said here was in a way softening what it really was. People being on two different levels of perception could cuase arguments. That's why I thought calling him a bigot was a bit to much. I'm someone who will proudly bash a bigot and get that tingling good feeling. Youngenvironmental1st2003 <no_reply > wrote: "Some of the things said seemed to take a liking to the history of slavery." is a history buff. His mother is a history teacher. was talking about the advantages to slavery during that period in time. He was not approving of it. Merely stating that at that point in time in history, slavery was acceptable to the people in that era for the reasons he gave.TomAdministrator

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>

>

> This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent..

Obviously this is not goodbye or we wouldn't see more posts on the same

threads over and over and over. I'm sick of seeing the messages Tom

tries to convey in the most clearly written way possible ignored again

and again as though has not READ, really READ what has been

written at ALL.

None of the posts denied that has rights or disagreed that he

should stick up for his rights. So what if anyone did have opposing

views about the heading of the original article, it was just a

difference of OPINION. Unless you value the other persons opinion this

shouldn't make you upset.

I'd like to say more but I know that it won't help. I see why others

have steered clear of responding to any of these at all.

Kim

Kim

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I just feel that how the topic was approached in accusational ways was wrong. the title was not misleading and was very relevent. Having both Tom and Raven pounce on my advocacies in the same way was strange yet ultimately to be expected. They made a big deal out of something when if percieved in how it was attended I was the autism sueing. Opinions can be expressed in cotnructive ways such as not saying I am using my autism to win a case and compaing me to murderers that use autism as a defence. I am self-advocating and I truelly believe Tom's approach was intending to harm me. Everything in the story has to do with autism including: 1. I have autism. 2. The service is for people with autism. 3. The case concerns an person with autism whom is sueing a service for autism. I said goodbye becuase of my frustration from constant

insults and accusations. My mental mind frame was that of a self-advocate protecting others like myself. Then when showing others on this board what I was doing I felt to be attacked for it which was entirely unexpected. I was placed on the defensive instead of what was expected to be like preaching to the choir. I really don't believe I have enough interest to learn or get to know the people on any other forum.This is the only forum I chat on and it has been a long time since I have. I don't often chat to people online and even delted most people from my chat lists on instant messenger. Was not just a difference of opinion.. Not with Tom and Raven.. No way.. Kim <6emini@...> wrote: >>> This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent..Obviously this is not goodbye or we wouldn't see more posts on the samethreads over and over and over. I'm sick of seeing the messages Tomtries to convey in the most clearly written way possible ignored againand again as though has not READ, really READ what has beenwritten at ALL.None of the posts denied that has rights or disagreed that heshould stick up for his rights. So what if anyone did have opposingviews about the heading of the original

article, it was just adifference of OPINION. Unless you value the other persons opinion thisshouldn't make you upset.I'd like to say more but I know that it won't help. I see why othershave steered clear of responding to any of these at all.KimKim

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I just feel that how the topic was approached in accusational ways was wrong. the title was not misleading and was very relevent. Having both Tom and Raven pounce on my advocacies in the same way was strange yet ultimately to be expected. They made a big deal out of something when if percieved in how it was attended I was the autism sueing. Opinions can be expressed in cotnructive ways such as not saying I am using my autism to win a case and compaing me to murderers that use autism as a defence. I am self-advocating and I truelly believe Tom's approach was intending to harm me. Everything in the story has to do with autism including: 1. I have autism. 2. The service is for people with autism. 3. The case concerns an person with autism whom is sueing a service for autism. I said goodbye becuase of my frustration from constant

insults and accusations. My mental mind frame was that of a self-advocate protecting others like myself. Then when showing others on this board what I was doing I felt to be attacked for it which was entirely unexpected. I was placed on the defensive instead of what was expected to be like preaching to the choir. I really don't believe I have enough interest to learn or get to know the people on any other forum.This is the only forum I chat on and it has been a long time since I have. I don't often chat to people online and even delted most people from my chat lists on instant messenger. Was not just a difference of opinion.. Not with Tom and Raven.. No way.. Kim <6emini@...> wrote: >>> This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent..Obviously this is not goodbye or we wouldn't see more posts on the samethreads over and over and over. I'm sick of seeing the messages Tomtries to convey in the most clearly written way possible ignored againand again as though has not READ, really READ what has beenwritten at ALL.None of the posts denied that has rights or disagreed that heshould stick up for his rights. So what if anyone did have opposingviews about the heading of the original

article, it was just adifference of OPINION. Unless you value the other persons opinion thisshouldn't make you upset.I'd like to say more but I know that it won't help. I see why othershave steered clear of responding to any of these at all.KimKim

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In a message dated 7/22/2007 1:22:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, graham.bedwell@... writes:

Hi kimI usually only sit and watch what goes on,for reasons that are generally obvious, I am here to learn, but you have hit it on the head. All this going round in circles helps no one.I for one will be glad to see an end to it, as it only harms the groups interest. I have met what I call the stuborn side of Aspies before but will never be able to understand it, just as I can't understand it in my NT friends.Thanks for being Honest all of you on this group,graham

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> >

> >

> > This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent..

>

>

>

> Obviously this is not goodbye or we wouldn't see more posts on the

same

> threads over and over and over. I'm sick of seeing the messages Tom

> tries to convey in the most clearly written way possible ignored

again

> and again as though has not READ, really READ what has been

> written at ALL.

>

> None of the posts denied that has rights or disagreed that he

> should stick up for his rights. So what if anyone did have opposing

> views about the heading of the original article, it was just a

> difference of OPINION. Unless you value the other persons opinion

this

> shouldn't make you upset.

>

> I'd like to say more but I know that it won't help. I see why

others

> have steered clear of responding to any of these at all.

>

> Kim

>

>

>

> Kim

>

Hi kim

I usually only sit and watch what goes on,for reasons that are

generally obvious, I am here to learn, but you have hit it on the

head. All this going round in circles helps no one.I for one will be

glad to see an end to it, as it only harms the groups interest. I

have met what I call the stuborn side of Aspies before but will never

be able to understand it, just as I can't understand it in my NT

friends.

Thanks for being Honest all of you on this group,

graham

[Guest guest]

Thats why I invited Tom to my forum which is not being used for other things. The conversation can be organized in one place without filling email boxes. Its hard not responding as I feel compelled to defend myself.grahambedwell <graham.bedwell@...> wrote: > > > > > > This is goodbye tom.. I deem you irrelevent.. > > > > Obviously this is not goodbye or we wouldn't see more posts on the same > threads over and over and over. I'm sick of seeing the messages Tom > tries to convey in the most clearly written way possible ignored again > and again as though has not READ, really READ what has been > written at ALL. > > None of the posts denied that has rights or disagreed that he > should stick up for his rights. So what if anyone did have opposing > views about the heading of the original article, it was just a > difference of OPINION. Unless you value the other persons opinion this > shouldn't make you upset. >

> I'd like to say more but I know that it won't help. I see why others > have steered clear of responding to any of these at all. > > Kim > > > > Kim > Hi kim I usually only sit and watch what goes on,for reasons that are generally obvious, I am here to learn, but you have hit it on the head. All this going round in circles helps no one.I for one will be glad to see an end to it, as it only harms the groups interest. I have met what I call the stuborn side of Aspies before but will never be able to understand it, just as I can't understand it in my NT friends. Thanks for being Honest all of you on this group, graham Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.

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Kim and Graham,

You will notice by the time I post this that has responded.

Since he is on moderation, they arrive in the " Pending Messages "

folder that only the moderators can see and await approval until I

get online.

Now that I am here, I have approved them all, in their entirity.

and , being moderators, can see the pending messages

also so they can confirm that all the posts that has made

this time around have gone through.

All that requires to understand everything exists in past

posts on the board, and in recent posts, I have dredged some of them

up for him.

I am very busy and have little time to waste arguing with so

Raven is still on vacation and it is doubtful she will have access

to the forums regularly, so I doubt she will respond either.

If wants to join in the regular conversations, that is fine.

But if he persists in disrupting the board, he will be banned, much

as I hate to do it.

Tom

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Obviously this is not goodbye or we wouldn't see more posts on the

same threads over and over and over. I'm sick of seeing the

messages Tom tries to convey in the most clearly written way

possible ignored again and again as though has not READ,

really READ what has been written at ALL.

None of the posts denied that has rights or disagreed that he

should stick up for his rights. So what if anyone did have opposing

views about the heading of the original article, it was just a

difference of OPINION. Unless you value the other persons opinion

this shouldn't make you upset.

I'd like to say more but I know that it won't help. I see why

others have steered clear of responding to any of these at all.

Kim

Hi kim

I usually only sit and watch what goes on,for reasons that are

generally obvious, I am here to learn, but you have hit it on the

head. All this going round in circles helps no one.I for one will be

glad to see an end to it, as it only harms the groups interest. I

have met what I call the stuborn side of Aspies before but will never

be able to understand it, just as I can't understand it in my NT

friends.

Thanks for being Honest all of you on this group,

graham

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Tom,

You have some responsibility with my need to defend myself. Your

opinions weren ot just opinions. Most lacked constructive bases and

were really accusational, needlessly negative and some even deamening.

I will not be definedas someone whom distrupts as you define me as. If

you want to re-visit the the slavery issue we can but I suggest on my

board where in a months time the posts can be deleted. You can be just

as nasty if not more nasty then you think I am at times.

If your going to bring up past issues then bring forth all of the

details. Not just aspects which I wa moderated for becuase of a

difference of opinion. The special issue has been my interest on and

off and I usually listen to KGO Radio..

http://www.kgoam810.com/complexshowdj.asp?DJID=3450

I sponsor his show and he would definitly concern some of

views as racist. Moderatine me for standing up to his histological

hardy views of slavery I consider racially biased. I did not curse at

him or anything. I think I did a fine job of de-popularitizing the

views justly, but he's your admin and friend so I understand the

affiliated bias.

Also, no, not all of my post have gone through. It is truelly

frustrating seeing some of the things being said against me then

having to wait hours to defend myself. I'm in slow motion while the

admins in full motion play attack my advocacy and intents.

http://www.turninginbigbrother.org/community if you want an uncensored

and without delay conversation with regards to issues that must fill

your members email boxes if we were to talk about it here. I welcome

william and tom but not necessarly the members other then to view as

the intents of the venue do not match this one.

P.S I have 1/2 million pages in christian literature about to be

uploaded!

>

> Obviously this is not goodbye or we wouldn't see more posts on the

> same threads over and over and over. I'm sick of seeing the

> messages Tom tries to convey in the most clearly written way

> possible ignored again and again as though has not READ,

> really READ what has been written at ALL.

>

> None of the posts denied that has rights or disagreed that he

> should stick up for his rights. So what if anyone did have opposing

> views about the heading of the original article, it was just a

> difference of OPINION. Unless you value the other persons opinion

> this shouldn't make you upset.

>

> I'd like to say more but I know that it won't help. I see why

> others have steered clear of responding to any of these at all.

>

> Kim

>

>

> Hi kim

>

> I usually only sit and watch what goes on,for reasons that are

> generally obvious, I am here to learn, but you have hit it on the

> head. All this going round in circles helps no one.I for one will be

> glad to see an end to it, as it only harms the groups interest. I

> have met what I call the stuborn side of Aspies before but will never

> be able to understand it, just as I can't understand it in my NT

> friends.

>

> Thanks for being Honest all of you on this group,

> graham

>

[Guest guest]

" Not just aspects which I was moderated for becuase of a difference

of opinion. "

You were never moderated for a difference of opinion. In the past

you were moderated for discussing topics not permitted on this

forum, e-mails to Raven which contained profanity, and posts to this

board which were rejected due to profanity. You are moderated now to

prevent profanity from posting here.

" I sponsor his show and he would definitly concern some of

views as racist. "

That discussion ended a long time ago. Stop taunting .

" Moderatine me for standing up to his histological hardy views of

slavery I consider racially biased. I did not curse at him or

anything. I think I did a fine job of de-popularitizing the

views justly, but he's your admin and friend so I understand the

affiliated bias. "

You were modeated at that time because you called him a bigot and

you acted then the way you were acting now, meaning that because you

could not get him to agree with your point of view you hounded him

endlessly. It disrupted the board.

" Also, no, not all of my post have gone through. "

Yes they have, as I explained earlier.

" P.S I have 1/2 million pages in christian literature about to be

uploaded! "

Even as you taunt both and I (and Raven earlier) you plug

your forum's attributes.

Now this is IT, . No more disruptions or you will be banned.

, Kim, Raven, and Graham have complained about this and

I won't have you start driving off members because of your behavior.

Tom

Administrator

[Guest guest]

I posted no profanity Tom. I seldom curse and you yourself one time

when refering to the autistics.org owner called her the *ich from hell

in an email to me once. That sort of pissed me off at the time as I I

usually hear from you is negaitivites with respects to other groups.

Yet you showed me a blog where the owner ( I'm not sure if it's really

the owner) calls herself that. I don't pay attention to the site, I've

read mostly just the front page.

If your moderating me for profanity then take me off moderation. I

won't curse as I don't. It's not a typical aspect of my vocabulary.

You act as if your admins are the victims of me which is petty. You

can't handle a debate at all and especially ones you just don't win.

You yourself bring up the issue of med-pot when I don't nor care to.

He lost a dabate Tom and I had email supporters. You were even called

a bigot by some. Also some views with regards to black folk getting

over it (slavery)were later in the media concerned as bigoted. I'm not

sure who said remarks with concern to that here. I really think

should reconsider some opinions he has with regard. Yet I

believe the intolerance might be derived from false histological

documentations which paint a view that is really false.

Stop playing the victim of good arguement styles by me.

>

> " Not just aspects which I was moderated for becuase of a difference

> of opinion. "

>

> You were never moderated for a difference of opinion. In the past

> you were moderated for discussing topics not permitted on this

> forum, e-mails to Raven which contained profanity, and posts to this

> board which were rejected due to profanity. You are moderated now to

> prevent profanity from posting here.

>

> " I sponsor his show and he would definitly concern some of

> views as racist. "

>

> That discussion ended a long time ago. Stop taunting .

>

> " Moderatine me for standing up to his histological hardy views of

> slavery I consider racially biased. I did not curse at him or

> anything. I think I did a fine job of de-popularitizing the

> views justly, but he's your admin and friend so I understand the

> affiliated bias. "

>

> You were modeated at that time because you called him a bigot and

> you acted then the way you were acting now, meaning that because you

> could not get him to agree with your point of view you hounded him

> endlessly. It disrupted the board.

>

> " Also, no, not all of my post have gone through. "

>

> Yes they have, as I explained earlier.

>

> " P.S I have 1/2 million pages in christian literature about to be

> uploaded! "

>

> Even as you taunt both and I (and Raven earlier) you plug

> your forum's attributes.

>

> Now this is IT, . No more disruptions or you will be banned.

> , Kim, Raven, and Graham have complained about this and

> I won't have you start driving off members because of your behavior.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>

[Guest guest]

It's like if I defend myself I am hounding. Yet I don't think most

people would agree with you Tom. Also stop threatening me.. My

behaviours are me and I have had enough with you behaving your way oh

so negatively and accusationaly but that's ok but not for me to defend

myself.

It goes two ways Tom.. Not just your way as mr. perfect as the victim

but equally until you see yourself as part of the problem.

>

> " Not just aspects which I was moderated for becuase of a difference

> of opinion. "

>

> You were never moderated for a difference of opinion. In the past

> you were moderated for discussing topics not permitted on this

> forum, e-mails to Raven which contained profanity, and posts to this

> board which were rejected due to profanity. You are moderated now to

> prevent profanity from posting here.

>

> " I sponsor his show and he would definitly concern some of

> views as racist. "

>

> That discussion ended a long time ago. Stop taunting .

>

> " Moderatine me for standing up to his histological hardy views of

> slavery I consider racially biased. I did not curse at him or

> anything. I think I did a fine job of de-popularitizing the

> views justly, but he's your admin and friend so I understand the

> affiliated bias. "

>

> You were modeated at that time because you called him a bigot and

> you acted then the way you were acting now, meaning that because you

> could not get him to agree with your point of view you hounded him

> endlessly. It disrupted the board.

>

> " Also, no, not all of my post have gone through. "

>

> Yes they have, as I explained earlier.

>

> " P.S I have 1/2 million pages in christian literature about to be

> uploaded! "

>

> Even as you taunt both and I (and Raven earlier) you plug

> your forum's attributes.

>

> Now this is IT, . No more disruptions or you will be banned.

> , Kim, Raven, and Graham have complained about this and

> I won't have you start driving off members because of your behavior.

>

> Tom

> Administrator

>