Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 In a message dated 3/8/01 9:38:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, okieleah@... writes: << hey chicadees and roosteradoo's, has anyone ever heard of or experienced the lindamood-bell reading program or the picture it reading program...www,pictureitreading.com??????? >> LOL Are you okay Leah or did you totally lose it? LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 In a message dated 3/8/01 10:14:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, okieleah@... writes: << gail, actually i think i have lost it....long time ago, about nine years ago at the age of 18 when i gave birth to a baby girl with ds.....:-) okay another question, does anyone use the a)phonics program by sra b)hooked on phonics c)phonics junior or D) hooked on math????????tc leah-aka insane leah should i say >> LOL Leah! Add 20 years to your life and then you will know how insane I am! LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 gail, actually i think i have lost it....long time ago, about nine years ago at the age of 18 when i gave birth to a baby girl with ds.....:-) okay another question, does anyone use the a)phonics program by sra b)hooked on phonics c)phonics junior or D) hooked on math????????tc leah-aka insane leah should i say >From: smilinggail@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: reading program >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:01:04 EST > >In a message dated 3/8/01 9:38:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, >okieleah@... writes: > ><< hey chicadees and roosteradoo's, > has anyone ever heard of or experienced the lindamood-bell reading >program > or the picture it reading program...www,pictureitreading.com??????? >> > >LOL Are you okay Leah or did you totally lose it? LOL >Gail _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 I don't know who wrote this, I think that the elementry school where I do my lab at, I think they use phonics worksheets. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2001 Report Share Posted March 8, 2001 No, I haven't heard of that website or anything about those reading programs. > ><< hey chicadees and roosteradoo's, > > has anyone ever heard of or experienced the > lindamood-bell reading > >program > > or the picture it reading > program...www,pictureitreading.com??????? >> > > > >LOL Are you okay Leah or did you totally lose it? > LOL > >Gail > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 In a message dated 3/8/01 10:14:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, okieleah@... writes: << gail, actually i think i have lost it....long time ago, about nine years ago at the age of 18 when i gave birth to a baby girl with ds.....:-) okay another question, does anyone use the a)phonics program by sra b)hooked on phonics c)phonics junior or D) hooked on math????????tc leah-aka insane leah should i say >> LOL Leah. Well, all my kids have done the sra in school and I remember doing it well. My friend has done the hooked on phonics and swears by it. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Gail, many studies show that ds children don't do well with phonics. My 5 kids with ds all had phonics for years (15-20years) and never learned to read but with the two younger ones we used a site word method and they can both read. Getting the school to use a different method is another story..there is a great book " Teaching Children with DS to Read " I found it very helpful and used it to " help " the school try another method. Also reading and comprehension are two different things. My teens can read at a 1st -3rd grade level but the comprehension is much lower. The best class they ever had was when they were in jr. high and I got them into a Kindergarten reading class. They taught reading by writing letters in sand and pudding and macaroni, they laid on the floor and made letters out of their bodies, my girls learned more in that class that they ever did in special ed. I have never found another teacher that taught this way. Good thing they were the same size as the K kids so no one ever suspected they were older.:-) I had to sign a waiver with the school dist. saying if they became psychologically damaged being with younger children it was my fault....I laugh at the whole thing now :-) Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Leah.... LOLOLOL Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 In a message dated 3/9/01 10:41:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, Judithrehling@... writes: << I had to sign a waiver with the school dist. saying if they became psychologically damaged being with younger children it was my fault....I laugh at the whole thing now :-) Judy >> You are kidding?!?! And they didn't make that a future program after your did so well? Go figure! LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 In a message dated 3/9/01 11:15:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, Imaddenmom@... writes: << Leah, There's a song from the 60's entitled, " They're coming to take me away, HA HA! " You are probably too young to remember it, but I bet Gail and Donna do! LOL Most days I feel like that song could be my life's anthem! LOL Terry - who they would probably take away if they could find somebody else to put up with ! >> Terry LOL!!! That's my theme song! Kids never know if I'm serious or not! They about died when they heard it on the radio one day! LOL Love...where life is beautiful all day long!!!!!! Oh, and the clean white coats!!!!!! LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 In a message dated 3/9/01 11:15:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, Imaddenmom@... writes: << There's a song from the 60's entitled, " They're coming to take me away, HA HA! " You are probably too young to remember it, but I bet Gail and Donna do! LOL Most days I feel like that song could be my life's anthem! >> ...............to the Funny Farm where life is gay and......YEP. Unfortunately, I remember it well....LOLOL Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:12:40 -0500 " leah leah " <okieleah@...> writes: > gail, > actually i think i have lost it....long time ago, about nine years > ago at > the age of 18 when i gave birth to a baby girl with ds.....:-) okay > another > question, does anyone use the a)phonics program by sra b)hooked on > phonics > c)phonics junior or D) hooked on math????????tc leah-aka insane leah > should > i say > > Leah, I had the Hooked on phonics. An older edition that included the SRA reading labs. I tried it briefly with Matt, but I gave up. He is doing well with reading (reading 1st grade books) and they have used the " sight word " reading method with him. We are beginning to introduce some phonics-like an S at the end of the word says " SSSSSSS " , but I really think the entired phonics approach would be tooo abstract for Matt. We noticed that he began to read some words by sight and decided to take advantage of the amazing power to memorize that he has. As for Math, We are using Math-U-See. I would strongly encourage you to look at that. they have a web site (Mathusee.com) The guy who designed it is a homeschooling math teacher, who has a son with Down syndrome. I started using it for all my kids this year (It goes through Trig!) and we love it. I got the " foundations " level for Matt, which is approx equal to 1-3 grades. I figured if we could get all of this by graduation, we would be doing great! It includes place value to 100 (We will have to go a little farther than that, maybe 1000, or 10,000.) money, time, addition, subtraction and multiplication. They use a lot of manipulatives that really make us all able to " see " math. I got the set, (like I said for my older kids too that we homeschool) and took the books into Matt's resource room. I told the teacher that this is what I wanted to use. She agreed, then didnt' use it for while. When I asked for it back, (Until I could get it on his IEP next year, I didnt' want to call another IEP just to add that!) she said they would use it and they are. It is very slow at the beginning. They stress totally understanding a concept before you move on. Place value to 100 is the first thing! This is a difficult concept. They give you lots of ideas for games to do to reinforce this. We are working on it during track break. IF you do order it, get the supplemental workbook, too. They wrote this for children who may need some extra practice on paper. IF you tell them that your child is handicapped, they will give you permission to copy the pages for extra worksheets for that child. I just cant' say enough about this program. One of the best things is that it has higher than imaginable resale on homeschooling bulletin boards. If you got the program and didnt' like it, it would sell for very close to the original price in a very short (like hours) time! Ok, I've rambled enough. Do go and look at it! http://mathusee.com S ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Donna, Yep, that would be the one! LMAO (figuratively speaking, hehehehe) Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 , Any chance you live in the Antelope Valley in California? Just wondering... Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 > gail, > actually i think i have lost it....long time ago,..... Leah, There's a song from the 60's entitled, " They're coming to take me away, HA HA! " You are probably too young to remember it, but I bet Gail and Donna do! LOL Most days I feel like that song could be my life's anthem! LOL Terry - who they would probably take away if they could find somebody else to put up with ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 mary, thanks for the info about mathucansee...my friend has 15yrold ds daughter and she just ordered the catalog for them...now i have a testimonial to pass onto her..... lmao not to be nosy mary, but what is matt's level of cognition for math and reading skills.... first second th ird grade??????just curious..i have some of the touchmath addition stuff and cameron likes it but ashton, we have to use backdoor approach always.... just had meeting her with her teacher over my complaint.,, she basically said to trust her and give her time...ashton has only been in her class three months and is writing her name, doing basic money and math blah blah blah...... i had to stop and think for a minute and regroup my th oughts...i want so much for her and want it NOW...i forget that you must take baby steps along the way...... i tend on the other hand to jump and not walk, so go figure.... okay i shall shutup...mary thanks again for sharing about the math...leah >From: J Stolz <stolzfamily@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: reading program >Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:43:39 -0800 > > >On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:12:40 -0500 " leah leah " <okieleah@...> >writes: > > gail, > > actually i think i have lost it....long time ago, about nine years > > ago at > > the age of 18 when i gave birth to a baby girl with ds.....:-) okay > > another > > question, does anyone use the a)phonics program by sra b)hooked on > > phonics > > c)phonics junior or D) hooked on math????????tc leah-aka insane leah > > should > > i say > > > > >Leah, >I had the Hooked on phonics. An older edition that included the SRA >reading labs. I tried it briefly with Matt, but I gave up. He is doing >well with reading (reading 1st grade books) and they have used the " sight >word " reading method with him. We are beginning to introduce some >phonics-like an S at the end of the word says " SSSSSSS " , but I really >think the entired phonics approach would be tooo abstract for Matt. We >noticed that he began to read some words by sight and decided to take >advantage of the amazing power to memorize that he has. > >As for Math, We are using Math-U-See. I would strongly encourage you to >look at that. they have a web site (Mathusee.com) The guy who designed >it is a homeschooling math teacher, who has a son with Down syndrome. I >started using it for all my kids this year (It goes through Trig!) and we >love it. I got the " foundations " level for Matt, which is approx equal to >1-3 grades. I figured if we could get all of this by graduation, we would >be doing great! It includes place value to 100 (We will have to go a >little farther than that, maybe 1000, or 10,000.) money, time, addition, >subtraction and multiplication. They use a lot of manipulatives that >really make us all able to " see " math. I got the set, (like I said for my >older kids too that we homeschool) and took the books into Matt's >resource room. I told the teacher that this is what I wanted to use. She >agreed, then didnt' use it for while. When I asked for it back, (Until I >could get it on his IEP next year, I didnt' want to call another IEP just >to add that!) she said they would use it and they are. It is very slow at >the beginning. They stress totally understanding a concept before you >move on. Place value to 100 is the first thing! This is a difficult >concept. They give you lots of ideas for games to do to reinforce this. >We are working on it during track break. IF you do order it, get the >supplemental workbook, too. They wrote this for children who may need >some extra practice on paper. IF you tell them that your child is >handicapped, they will give you permission to copy the pages for extra >worksheets for that child. I just cant' say enough about this program. >One of the best things is that it has higher than imaginable resale on >homeschooling bulletin boards. If you got the program and didnt' like it, >it would sell for very close to the original price in a very short (like >hours) time! > >Ok, I've rambled enough. Do go and look at it! >http://mathusee.com > > S >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 terry, sorry dearest but in 1960 i wasnt even planned....1972 was the glorious year of my birth.....i do know who john denver is and hall and oates....does that count??????? john denver song " take me home " well change the country road to nut house and i will be there....tc leah-aka youngest mommy of the bunch...heheheh >From: Imaddenmom@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: reading program >Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:12:58 -0000 > > > > gail, > > actually i think i have lost it....long time ago,..... > >Leah, >There's a song from the 60's entitled, " They're coming to take me >away, HA HA! " You are probably too young to remember it, but I bet >Gail and Donna do! LOL Most days I feel like that song could be my >life's anthem! LOL >Terry - who they would probably take away if they could find somebody >else to put up with ! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 In a message dated 3/9/01 5:53:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, mashawnag@... writes: << nathan does a reading program on the computer, his aid hasnt got the info i requested yet abut his programs, but i also have another one on file for reading etc, a family that has a son w/ds makes these programs for the computer, and one is reading, has pics etc, they have dressing ones and opposites and day at the zoo, its something like geddesproducts, i will have to look in my files if you are interested. shawna. >> I am a. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 Leah, Matt's " level " for Math and reading are so hard to pin point. He can read fairly well, especially yesterday when I gave him some ritalin! He used to be on it, but has developed a tic from it. I had leftovers and I tried it again. Back to the tic, but concentration is great! He is reading in a " primer " level-basically about the beginning of first grade. I have purchased the readers from our homeschool company (Seton homestudy school-we are Catholic, this is a VERY Catholic curriculum) and have talked him into reading these at home by telling him that these are our " Jesus books " and we dont' read " Jesus books at school. Only at home " . FOr now, he is buying that! (That stubborn putting every action and every person into a " box " and that is the only place you can experience that action or person thing!) The books are the 1st grade level, and they really start " reading " in the 31st week of the program. So, toward the end. Of course, they go much quicker through the books than we are, but that is ok. We will go as fast as we need to. I try to get him to look at the pictures too to help answer my questions. Part of the problem is that I'm not sure he understands the questions. Those " Who, what, where " type words, he gets mixed up, all the time! So it is not fair to say he does or doesn't understand because I cant' realistically test him. I do know that he reads much quicker than he can say the words. He scans the lines and will say end words before reading the line. Or, some lines say " up, up, up " or " No, no, no " or some other equally great literary words, and he will immediately laugh and say " 3 up " . He knows, and knows it is funny because it is not expected! As for Math, they have taught him to do some basic addition facts and say them. Sounds cute 'one pwus two eqwaus free " . But does he have any idea at all what he did? Nope. I can say to him> " You have one apple and I have two apples. How many all together? " He has no clue. That is where Math U see is great. They emphasize that the reason we learn math at all is to do word problems. We have to make sure he gets some kind of idea of what to do, and when to do it. He can recognize numbers to about 100, but that is good some days and not good other days. He can write all the numerals except a 6. He knows our phone number and address, and is working on writing the street name. Of course, our street is " Antelope Valley Avenue " . Couldnt' be anything easy, could it? Hope I answered your questions. I have great hope that he will continue to progress. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:27:43 EST Imaddenmom@... writes: > , > Any chance you live in the Antelope Valley in California? Just > wondering... > Terry > > Nope, but close. Our STREET is Antelope Valley Ave. We are in Vegas! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 nathan does a reading program on the computer, his aid hasnt got the info i requested yet abut his programs, but i also have another one on file for reading etc, a family that has a son w/ds makes these programs for the computer, and one is reading, has pics etc, they have dressing ones and opposites and day at the zoo, its something like geddesproducts, i will have to look in my files if you are interested. shawna. >From: duffey48@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: reading program >Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:20:26 EST > >In a message dated 3/8/01 10:14:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, >okieleah@... writes: > ><< gail, > actually i think i have lost it....long time ago, about nine years ago at > the age of 18 when i gave birth to a baby girl with ds.....:-) okay >another > question, does anyone use the a)phonics program by sra b)hooked on >phonics > c)phonics junior or D) hooked on math????????tc leah-aka insane leah >should > i say >> > >LOL Leah. Well, all my kids have done the sra in school and I remember >doing it well. My friend has done the hooked on phonics and swears by it. >Donna _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 learns to read by sight word method too, its part of his computer program, they have pics for the words and he learns them with the pics then matches them and then by themselves etc, he has over 40 reading words in his book allready and he just started this program this year, it also has books it makes on the computer with the same words learning and he reads thruogh them, loving them, and apparently understanding them. ive also read that phonics are not for those with ds. shawna. >From: Judithrehling@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: reading program >Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:39:37 EST > >Gail, many studies show that ds children don't do well with phonics. My 5 >kids with ds all had phonics for years (15-20years) and never learned to >read >but with the two younger ones we used a site word method and they can both >read. Getting the school to use a different method is another story..there >is >a great book " Teaching Children with DS to Read " I found it very helpful >and >used it to " help " the school try another method. Also reading and >comprehension are >two different things. > >My teens can read at a 1st -3rd grade level but the comprehension is much >lower. The best class they ever had was when they were in jr. high and I >got >them into a Kindergarten reading class. They taught reading by writing >letters in sand and pudding and macaroni, they laid on the floor and made >letters out of their bodies, my girls learned more in that class that they >ever did in special ed. I have never found another teacher that taught >this >way. Good thing they were the same size as the K kids so no one ever >suspected they were older.:-) I had to sign a waiver with the school dist. >saying if they became psychologically damaged being with younger children >it >was my fault....I laugh at the whole thing now :-) >Judy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2001 Report Share Posted March 9, 2001 sure, i will lookit up tonight or tomarrow, ok, the programs arnt exspensive either, really nice, i was thinking of buying some for home use. shawna. >From: smilinggail@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: reading program >Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:59:26 EST > >In a message dated 3/9/01 5:53:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, >mashawnag@... writes: > ><< nathan does a reading program on the computer, his aid hasnt got the >info >i > requested yet abut his programs, but i also have another one on file for > reading etc, a family that has a son w/ds makes these programs for the > computer, and one is reading, has pics etc, they have dressing ones and > opposites and day at the zoo, its something like geddesproducts, i will >have > to look in my files if you are interested. shawna. >> > >I am a. >Gail _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I have a question. What are your kids in the upper grades (Middle/Jr. and High School) doing for Reading? I just had a meeting at school and the reading is just occasional hit and miss as with holiday stories and such. I just feel so defeated since we entered middle school and now high school. Just sweep the floors and clean a few tables and your good to go. Sorry just needed to vent a little too. Thanks, Barb mom to (16ds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 We are using a combination of Orton Gillingham and Read Naturally. Both work on decoding, fluency and phonics. I love them. They do require a little training to implement at home (esp OG), but likes them and I do too. She has definitely improved this year. Small gains, perhaps, but gains to be sure. The OG program was recommended to us by the educational specialist at the DS clinic in Cincy Children's Hosp. Hope this helps, Eleanor From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of blaise_25053 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:04 PM Subject: Reading Program I have a question. What are your kids in the upper grades (Middle/Jr. and High School) doing for Reading? I just had a meeting at school and the reading is just occasional hit and miss as with holiday stories and such. I just feel so defeated since we entered middle school and now high school. Just sweep the floors and clean a few tables and your good to go. Sorry just needed to vent a little too. Thanks, Barb mom to (16ds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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