Re: Re: wild claims for tonics

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Did you read this? The guy is a scientist noting there is little if

any study on this, yet wild claims for it as a tonic. Almost none, but

not quite. . .I found his citations on the work upon green tea even

more interesting.

Dave

On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:25 PM, lowerbp2@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 1/9/07 2:06:59 PM, riothamus20@... writes:

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> http://chetday.com/gojijuice.htm

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> Snake oil at its best.

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> May your pressure be low!

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> Clarence E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D.

> Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

> and the Physiology and History of Survival During

> Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

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In a message dated 1/11/07 12:30:11 AM, cjant@... writes:

It's an interesting article Dave.  I found the green tea thing intriguing as well.  I have lots of green tea in my cupboard too.  I haven't signed up for Goji yet.  Someone has given me some to try.  I'm not to thrilled about the cost. 

DASH should do it all and is inexpensive and is tested and shown to work.

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D.

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

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I'm not thrilled about how little is known about its use - especially

in industrial socieities.

Dave

On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:24 PM, lyndyst wrote:

> It's an interesting article Dave.  I found the green tea thing

> intriguing as well.  I have lots of green tea in my cupboard too.  I

> haven't signed up for Goji yet.  Someone has given me some to try. 

> I'm not to thrilled about the cost. 

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In a message dated 1/11/07 2:37:55 AM, riothamus20@... writes:

I'm not thrilled about how little is known about its use - especially

in industrial socieities.

Dave

Once again we need good trials to document what it does and does not do. Are its effects as good as, better than or worse than doing nothing?

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D.

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

[Guest guest]

Exactly.

Dave

On Jan 11, 2007, at 7:33 AM, lowerbp2@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 1/11/07 2:37:55 AM, riothamus20@... writes:

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> I'm not thrilled about how little is known about its use - especially

> in industrial socieities.

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> Dave

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> Once again we need good trials to document what it does and does not

> do.  Are its effects as good as, better than or worse than doing

> nothing?

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> May your pressure be low!

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> Clarence E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D.

> Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

> and the Physiology and History of Survival During

> Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

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