Re: Equipment, HRV, Breathing, Metronome

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Fred,

Only have a little time here. Got to get prepared for a class on NF and home

trainer units for next weekend. If anyone is interested in this I will be

doing another one in Mt. Vernon in January.

Ok, I love this Oximeter issue. When you go into a hospital today, they take

your vitals regularily and nowadays they use an oximeter. Nurses are getting

lazy or hospital financial officers are saying,

" Hey, we can charge the patient $39 everytime you walk in the room and " count

respirations " . " There is probably not a nurse around who was ever trained in

this. They think that if you get 99% saturation, that is good. Wrong. It means

you are hyperventilating. Probably 95-98% is good. Remember the 100 yard

dasher who hyperventilates before running. No other distance runner does this.

Why? Because the 100 yrd dasher runs it in less than 5 seconds. What's he

doing the whole time? Probably breath holding. In breath holding he is raising

his C02 level and thus unloading 02 off the hemoglobin molecule. He can afford

to breath hold for such a short distance. Actually part of the stress response.

Hyperventilate, well oxygenate oneself and take off running or fighting.

However, if the stress continues, then the tables turn. We go into respiratory

alkalosis initially and finally overtime, metabolic acidosis.

So, do you need both? It is fun to play with the dynamics. I have been dearly

waiting for Jan's capnograph for years.

Any medical oximeter is pretty accurate.

If anyone is interested, I am thinking of doing a workshop in late Jan. on

breathing, C02, O2, HRV and Jan's new capnograph. Let me know if you might be

interested and I will keep you posted.

Rosemary

Re: Equipment, HRV, Breathing, Metronome

Rosemary:

You wrote:

" Fred,

In summary and succinctness, I suspect you are asking if my breathing will get

to HRV better than training on a machine? I think both work and each has it's

merits. "

Actually, I agree with you. What I'm still trying to do is learn how to

integrate the blood chemistry and HRV approaches. I've devised my own ways of

doing this, and some of your ideas are increasing my options. And, I'm eager to

learn more.

Your posts about Sherpa breathing has stimulated my interests in a pulse

oximeter, and I've found an interesting and relatively inexpensive one at:

http://www.bio-medical.com/oximeter.html .

I have several questions: First of all, is an oximeter really useful in an

outpatient clinical practice? If so, what are the practical applications? I

suspect it would be useful for atheletes who are trying to learn better ways of

breathing during exertion, but how would one integrate this in an office

setting, and are there other uses for it? Like, is it useful for cardiac

rehabilitation, or with asthma patients? Or, is the capnometer all one really

needs for most practical purposes? Finally, does the unit I mentioned above look

like it would be useful?

Thanks for any of your thoughts......

Fred