Re: dismissing our kids early

[Guest guest]

Oooh, I hate when the schools do this. I had the same thing happen a

few years ago. I got home from work (in plenty of time to meet the

bus) and Nick was already home and the bus driver was mad at me for

not being here. I then got a call from the transportation department

and was told I had to be there or sign a form stating Nick could come

home by myself (which he now does). I asked them how the bus got home

before school was even out and was told that the busses leave early so

they don't have to mess with the traffic! I had a meeting with the

school and had totaled up the amount of time Nick was missing from the

school day and what that worked out to be per school year and asked

for the missed time to be covered by ESY. They didn't want to do that

so the policy was changed and the kids had to stay in school until the

final bell rang. It is so sad that we even have to think about this.

Mom to Nick and Noah both with Down syndrome

Colorado

On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:50 AM, Di wrote:

> I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on

> 's law about it....

> Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed

> his class 10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have

> this happen to them?

>

> Di

>

> Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not

> be condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

> Luke 6:37

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kenzie also gets dismissed 15 minutes before the other 900 kids...I love

it!!! She doesn't have the chance to get on the wrong bus or in a car with a

friend and I miss the traffic jam!

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In a message dated 9/11/2008 4:38:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

michdock@... writes:

Maverick has never ridden the sped bus. He rides the reg ed bus with a

monitor. He gets out of class at the same time the reg ed kids get out.

You might want to check that out.

That's what we do also! Besides I like the idea tha he is with his

neighborhood kids who can kind of let me know what goes on instead of on a bus

where

most of the kids are non-verbal. Call it insurance lol!

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[Guest guest]

My point exacly, If anyone needs every minute of instructional time, It's Nic.

Those 10 minutes a day adds up. 10 X 180 school days = 1800 minutes. divided by

60 minutes = 30 !!!!

That's a lot of time wasted to accomodate the van driver.

Di

From: Harmon <jharmon@...>

Date: 2008/09/11 Thu AM 07:01:41 CDT

Di <drf218@...>

Cc:

Subject: Re: dismissing " our " kids early

Oooh, I hate when the schools do this. I had the same thing happen a

few years ago. I got home from work (in plenty of time to meet the

bus) and Nick was already home and the bus driver was mad at me for

not being here. I then got a call from the transportation department

and was told I had to be there or sign a form stating Nick could come

home by myself (which he now does). I asked them how the bus got home

before school was even out and was told that the busses leave early so

they don't have to mess with the traffic! I had a meeting with the

school and had totaled up the amount of time Nick was missing from the

school day and what that worked out to be per school year and asked

for the missed time to be covered by ESY. They didn't want to do that

so the policy was changed and the kids had to stay in school until the

final bell rang. It is so sad that we even have to think about this.

Mom to Nick and Noah both with Down syndrome

Colorado

On Sep 11, 2008, at 5:50 AM, Di wrote:

> I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on

> 's law about it....

> Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed

> his class 10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have

> this happen to them?

>

> Di

>

> Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not

> be condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

> Luke 6:37

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes.? While Nick was in elementary school he typically got out 10 minutes

before the rest of the school did.? Originally, this happened because it was

either let him out 10 minutes early or he would be sitting at the school for an

hour waiting on the bus.? Neither the staff nor my husband and I felt this was a

good idea (the hour wait), so the plan was Nick would get on his bus at 3:00

while the walkers (which were dismissed first) got out at 3:10.? At first this

worked well, then we began noticing that there were times he actually arrived

home at 3:00 (we live less than 5 minutes from the school).? Well, when his

younger brother started school I requested that he be allowed to ride the

special ed bus with Nick.? First complaint was they couldn't dismiss

that early.? Well, needless to say that got me started with " If can't

leave school at 3:00 then neither can Nick -- readjust the special ed bus

pick-up so it is suitable. " ? (Well, I don't think they ever did totally adjust

the special ed bus schedule, but they didn't stop from leaving.)?

Just recently, the special ed bus aide informed me that they might be later

bringing Nick home as the other middle school in town was refusing to let their

special ed students leave early.? I informed her by law they can't.? Special ed

students can not miss out on instructional time just to benefit the bus

schedule.? (Nick's Jr. High principal agrees and his teacher has been informed

that if she is doing instructional time she is to keep Nick no matter what time

the aide shows up, if school is still in session for the other students.)

If any regular ed students are typically dismissed 10 minutes early, then

technically that 10 minute time period shouldn't be instructional (which when we

initially started it with Nick we were informed was basically their get stuff

ready to go home time, which the aide would have Nick's stuff gathered earlier

and waiting in his backpack).

Cari

dismissing " our " kids early

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's law

about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class 10

minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

Maverick has never ridden the sped bus. He rides the reg ed bus with a monitor.

He gets out of class at the same time the reg ed kids get out.

You might want to check that out.

[Guest guest]

My 10yo son does the same thing. Our school doesn't separate the kids. They

all ride the same bus.

Marcia

drf218@...; ; CMancari@...:

michdock@...: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:37:07 -0700Subject: Re:

dismissing " our " kids early

Maverick has never ridden the sped bus. He rides the reg ed bus with a monitor.

He gets out of class at the same time the reg ed kids get out. You might want to

check that out.

[Guest guest]

They do this all the time in the county where I live here in WV. It's just

understood and nobody thinks anything of it.  I asked if I needed to sign

out in the office when I picked him up early and was told no (even tho

it was a half hour before school let out) because that was when the bus (special

education bus) takes the special ed students home. rides the reg ed bus

and so he doesn't get released early.  I remember reading about this sorta thing

several years back on a civil rights website. Can't remember now where. I was in

a situation at that time where my child was riding the bus for too long and

arriving late to school and home. After writing a 4 page letter and sending it

to everyone and anyone was put on the reg ed bus with a support aide.

Here's what wrightslaw has to say about shortened day:

http://www.wrightslaw.com/advoc/ltrs/kids_sent_home.htm

 

Barb mom to (15ds) and Tyler 13

From: Di <drf218@...>

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " < >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's law

about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class 10

minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the link. Our schools do this too. For the most part I'm OK with

it, except that they have been picking up late in the AM too. I called and

complained so it is getting a little better. BUT if it doesn't I will need

to use this!! J They have been picking Myah up at 8:45-that's when the tardy

bell rings. The kids still have to get to school (5 minute ride if Myah is

the last pickup-I don't know) and eat breakfast. The rest of the kids are at

school by 8:30. Then they dismiss our kids to their buses at 3:05, while the

rest of the school gets out at 3:20. The 15 minutes at the end of the day

doesn't really bother me, but pair it with the lost time in the AM and I

think it's pushing it.

Spilios

Mom to Myah 7 (DS, Diabetic), Shianne 3, and Isabella !!

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Barb Dillon

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:40 PM

Upsndowns; Di

Subject: Re: dismissing " our " kids early

They do this all the time in the county where I live here in WV. It's just

understood and nobody thinks anything of it. I asked if I needed to sign

out in the office when I picked him up early and was told no (even

tho it was a half hour before school let out) because that was when the bus

(special education bus) takes the special ed students home. rides

the reg ed bus and so he doesn't get released early. I remember reading

about this sorta thing several years back on a civil rights website. Can't

remember now where. I was in a situation at that time where my child was

riding the bus for too long and arriving late to school and home. After

writing a 4 page letter and sending it to everyone and anyone was

put on the reg ed bus with a support aide.

Here's what wrightslaw has to say about shortened day:

http://www.wrightslaw.com/advoc/ltrs/kids_sent_home.htm

Barb mom to (15ds) and Tyler 13

From: Di <drf218@... <mailto:drf218%40verizon.net> >

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <

<mailto:%40> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

When I experienced this problem in Virginia, the SPED director immediately

offered compensatory time. She said transportation always tries this. The

bus driver wanted to get out first due to traffic backup-I told her to call

the police if she needed traffic help. Now this happens here..I haven't

pinned down the times yet- but a teacher said they can do that for our kids

because they aren't losing time - the regular kids get 4 minutes between

classes and our kids don't. Therefore, they think that is ok.

--

cindysue@...

dismissing " our " kids early

> " Upsndowns " <

> <mailto:%40> >

> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

>

> I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on

> 's

> law about it....

> Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his

> class

> 10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to

> them?

>

> Di

>

> Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

> condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

> Luke 6:37

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and everyone-

Why would children who have DS have to ride a different bus to school?  I am

nieve I guess...next year when my daughter goes to kindergarden, wont she just

ride the bus with her sister who will in 2nd grade?  It would be stupid to have

them on a different bus when they are going to the same school.  Am I in for a

fight next year????!!!!

Dawn

From: Di <drf218verizon (DOT) net <mailto:drf218% 40verizon. net> >

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

I, too, live in WV and kind of expected to have a problem, but we didn't.

But I also didn't tell them I was going to send her on the bus - I just did

it. I put her on the bus with her brother and neighborhood kids and it was

no big deal. In fact, I rode the bus for the first 3 days morning and night

to make sure it went ok and the bus drivers had no problem with it. They

were very cool, so by the time anyone (if anyone even would have) could have

protested, it was running smoothly, so they couldn't exactly fix something

that wasn't broken - imho. Two years later, all is well. No big deal. Before

that, I drove her to school daily. I needed to make sure she was fine door

to door and I didn't want her on the 'short bus,' plus I'd seen aides who

weren't very good with the kids on buses.

Eleanor

_____

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Of D

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:36 PM

blaise_25053@...; 'Upsndowns'; 'Di'; kelly

Subject: RE: dismissing " our " kids early

Hi and everyone-

Why would children who have DS have to ride a different bus to school? I am

nieve I guess...next year when my daughter goes to kindergarden, wont she

just ride the bus with her sister who will in 2nd grade? It would be stupid

to have them on a different bus when they are going to the same school. Am

I in for a fight next year????!!!!

Dawn

From: Di <drf218verizon (DOT) net <mailto:drf218% 40verizon. net> >

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

When we lived in Alabama, 's school was 5 minutes from our house by car, 30

minutes by bus, so I picked her up at car pool. She was dismissed at the same

time as all the other students, sat in the same car pool lines, and was expected

to behave as all the children were.

Since we moved to SC, she rode the bus one year. We were last stop before

school, first stop in afternoon. Wonderful! She rode the regular bus. They

offered the special bus, as they call it, and I declined. No problem. This was

the 4th year we were here.

The first year we were here, I arrived at school in the car pool line,

waiting out front with all the other kids, back by the door to the school

with a parapro and the sped teacher. They wanted to know where I was at 2:10,

(school is out at 2:30). I said, at home. They said, " all of the kids in our

class are bus riders except for , and they all ride the special bus and

they all leave at 2:10. " I said " is a car rider, and the school

dismissal time is 2:30, so I would like her in the classroom, learning until the

dismissal bell rings " . They said " We don't do it that way " . I said " I am not

picking her up early " . I investigated a little, wondering if this was used as

planning time or whatever, and it wasn't. They had planning time already

earlier in the day. It was one of those things, it had been done this way for

years, and they wanted it to continue. I offered to speak to the principal

about it, and they quickly declined. Now the 2:00-2:20 time is DEAR time (Drop

Everything and Read). Amazingly enough, several weeks later was in the

Accelerated Reader 10 point club and continued to gain points for the rest of

the year. So in my opinion, she was losing instructional time.

Now, I pick her up at high school at the same dismissal time as everyone else,

she is out at the carpool line enjoying herself.

Sharon H.

Mom to , (16, DS) and , (13)

South Carolina

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" Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of

battle. "

" Life is too short for drama & petty things, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely,

love truly and forgive quickly. "

dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

My son rides the special needs bus because it has seat

belts. He is small for his age and also has a pacemaker.

I don't want him on the bigger bus with all ages. He is

happy on the special bus with an aid that helps these

children buckle up, get on and off the bus, etc. He can

climb up the steps but getting off of the bus he really

needs an adult to assist so that he does not do a face

plant! lol That is why we use the special bus.

I don't know what will be the policy when we move soon to

Texas but here in land, I have been pretty pleased with

transportation and Alden's experience at school, for the

most part. I am a bit nervous now with the move coming

soon.

kiersten

--- D <christina7@...> wrote:

> Hi and everyone-

> Why would children who have DS have to ride a different

> bus to school?  I am nieve I guess...next year when my

> daughter goes to kindergarden, wont she just ride the bus

> with her sister who will in 2nd grade?  It would be

> stupid to have them on a different bus when they are

> going to the same school.  Am I in for a fight next

> year????!!!!

> Dawn

>

>

>

> From: Di <drf218verizon (DOT) net <mailto:drf218% 40verizon.

> net> >

> Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

> " Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

> <mailto:% 40groups. com> >

> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

>

> I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1

> thing on 's

> law about it....

> Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school

> dismissed his class

> 10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have

> this happen to them?

>

> Di

>

> Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and

> ye shall not be

> condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

> Luke 6:37

>

>

[Guest guest]

attends class as per normal. We walk to school. End of school I

pick up from his classroom this year, and walk to meet Natasha-

she starts walking towards 's end of school ,as they are in

separate sections.

When starts next term I will be picking him up 5 mins early, as

has a habit of wandering off, so he cannot be trusted yet to

meet in front of 's classroom.

Next year I may push to have him walk to 's class, but I quite

enjoy having a few mins to speak with his teacher about how his day

went. Some teachers are more verbal then writers, and this year I have

found more out by speaking to his teacher for 2 mins a day than what

goes int he diary. Works for this year We will need to work on

's independence, but right now he still wanders, and I feel safer

knowing exactly where he is.

On Thursdays I pick up to go swimming, and he goes back to

school for Out of Hours School Care. I stop in the carpark, and he walks

to the OHSC building-I do call them on the phone so they expect him ,

but I am working in building up his walking solo.

Aussie Leis- mum to , Natasha, and Liliana

If you don't know where you are, a map won't help

[Guest guest]

I agree unless there is some unusual reason that a child would need to ride a

different bus. In our district, fortunately, we don't have a " special ed "

bus...all of the kids with special needs ride the bus their peers do--even our

two student who use wheelchairs. I also am against the arriving a little late

or getting out a little early. They wouldn't suggest that for a typical kid so

why is it okay for our kids? In most cases our kids need to be in school MORE

than the typical kids anyway, but when it's convenient for bussing reasons or

whatever they don't hesitate to suggest our kids change their schedules to

accommodate theirs. Besides more discrimination and segregation I believe it is

also illegal.

Jill

Mom to Mac & Kit

dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2008 10:36:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

christina7@... writes:

Am I in for a fight next year????!!!!

i think it depends on where you live and what your district's policy is.

Does your district have Special ed buses? Call your transportation department

or administration and ask them if you don't know. We have Sped buses but i

told the district my son would not be riding on it. They gave me a little

trouble but not much. It would be a violation of his rights to put him on a

special bus if I want him on regular bus.

Loree

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/11/2008 10:44:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

eig6@... writes:

I just did

it. I put her on the bus with her brother and neighborhood kids and it was

no big deal.

You see how different things are around the country. Here (on Long Island)

they make a placement for your child on the SPED bus when you have your CSE

meeting (IEP). I wouldn't have had the opportunity to just put Micah on the

the bus I would have to follow what is in his IEP. It has worked to our

advantage though as he sits in the front seat by bus driver. In fact I laughed

out loud tha tyou got to go ON the bus for three days. I had to call my state

assemblyperson (she is a woman I know) in order to get on the bus to buckle

him into his seatbelt when he started school. Policy is no parent allowed on

bus AT ALL! I raised hell. Micah was all of 20 pounds and wearing a size 18

month clothing when he started school. After my assemblywoman called the

super of schools it just " kinda happened " without any acknowledgement from

anyone that I could get on the bus and bucklue him in. His aide did the return

trip. I had written a letter telling them that I had told them I would sign

any waiver they wanted to absolve them from any liability from my actions or

getting hurt on the bus, in order to buckle him in. I then told them that

sionce they stillrefused to allow me to buckle him in that I was putting them

on

notice that they would be liable for any injury he incurred. And that at 20

pounds of weight i the school bus stopped short he was GONNA get hurt.

SIGH~~~the things we have to go through

Loree

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[Guest guest]

I really think it's your choice. We live in town and our buses pick up at

the street corners. Taking Myah down the street to the corner to get on the

bus every day would not be the best time. She doesn't wait well at all. Most

of the other kids just walk from their houses, wait together and then get on

the bus. Our SPED bus comes to each house and will stop and allow transition

time if you need it. There is also a rider on the bus to help. I would

imagine that if I wanted Myah to ride the " regular " bus that would be fine.

I think it's a bit different too when your child with DS is the oldest.

There's no one else to kinda lead the way for the child with DS and help

keep look out in your absence. I think you'll be fine.

Spilios

Mom to Myah 7 (DS, Diabetic), Shianne 3, and Isabella 1!!

From: D [mailto:christina7@...]

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:36 PM

blaise_25053@...; 'Upsndowns'; 'Di'; kelly

Subject: RE: dismissing " our " kids early

Hi and everyone-

Why would children who have DS have to ride a different bus to school? I am

nieve I guess...next year when my daughter goes to kindergarden, wont she

just ride the bus with her sister who will in 2nd grade? It would be stupid

to have them on a different bus when they are going to the same school. Am

I in for a fight next year????!!!!

Dawn

From: Di <drf218verizon (DOT) <mailto:drf218%40verizon.net> net <mailto:drf218%

40verizon. net> >

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:%40>

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

Forgot to mention that sometime we have been known to have to carry Myah off

the bus in the afternoon because she will not get off!! LOL

Spilios

Mom to Myah 7 (DS, Diabetic), Shianne 3, and Isabella 1!!

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of D

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:36 PM

blaise_25053@...; 'Upsndowns'; 'Di'; kelly

Subject: RE: dismissing " our " kids early

Hi and everyone-

Why would children who have DS have to ride a different bus to school? I am

nieve I guess...next year when my daughter goes to kindergarden, wont she

just ride the bus with her sister who will in 2nd grade? It would be stupid

to have them on a different bus when they are going to the same school. Am

I in for a fight next year????!!!!

Dawn

From: Di <drf218verizon (DOT) net <mailto:drf218% 40verizon. net> >

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

Dawn,

Sorry, I guess it's early and I don't have my thoughts together! Lol I also

wanted you remember that Myah doesn't just have DS. She also has other

mental health issues that make her a little " different " than some other kids

with DS. Please take this into consideration and don't worry about your next

year. I have met Elise once and bet she will do just fine!

Spilios

Mom to Myah 7 (DS, Diabetic), Shianne 3, and Isabella 1!!

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of D

Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:36 PM

blaise_25053@...; 'Upsndowns'; 'Di'; kelly

Subject: RE: dismissing " our " kids early

Hi and everyone-

Why would children who have DS have to ride a different bus to school? I am

nieve I guess...next year when my daughter goes to kindergarden, wont she

just ride the bus with her sister who will in 2nd grade? It would be stupid

to have them on a different bus when they are going to the same school. Am

I in for a fight next year????!!!!

Dawn

From: Di <drf218verizon (DOT) net <mailto:drf218% 40verizon. net> >

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

-

Yes- I can see it just depends on how the bus pick up is done.  Our bus picks up

right in front of our house and so they wait inside with me and then just walk

to the driveway.  

Dawn

From: Di <drf218verizon (DOT) net <mailto:drf218% 40verizon. net> >

Subject: dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

Okay, I have Nick ride the special ed bus for several reasons, however, the

main one is his behaviors.? When we first moved into our house one feature I

liked about the special ed bus was it came to our house (the regular ed bus stop

is at the end of our road) and since I had a baby (and the following year had

another one) this worked best as I didn't have to load babies into car seats to

drive their brother to the bus stop.? Another reason, I like Nick riding the

special ed bus is there are less people on it and therefore less things that

might set him off (he can get into enough trouble on his own).

We have had him ride the regular ed bus home once (the special ed bus had broken

down and they weren't sure when they would be able to pick him up).? He did

okay, but I'm told he talked the bus driver's ear off (I requested he be put in

the seat immediately behind the bus driver).? Also, in our county they don't

like to put aides on the regular ed buses, if you push for an aide they want the

special ed bus utilized.? I don't feel comfortable allowing Nick to ride

unsupervised.

Another reason I preferred the special ed bus to the regular ed bus was Nick was

able to get home earlier and didn't have an hour's wait for his bus ride home.?

(We live less than 5 minutes' drive from the school, but since this county

utilizes their buses by running 2 routes (high school & jr.high/elementary) the

elementary children often spend longer at school at the end of the day waiting

on their bus to arrive after it's high school run.)? Example:? My younger two

attend the elementary school, it releases at 3:10pm; however, the boys' bus

doesn't get to their school until 3:55 (or later) and they don't get home until

4:00 (or later).? That was too long a wait for Nick without the schedule/routine

of school work.

Cari

dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

That's great for her to have a sib on the same bus, for those of us who

don't, it's less attractive. I don't particularly want to walk to the bus

stop every morning and wait with Noah. I would absolutely not let him do it

alone, and I have no trust in the neighborhood kids. Even the sweetest ones

can turn ugly when puberty strikes! My older son got into more trouble on

the bus than he ever did at school. Not an environment I want my son

exposed to. Besides, he loves the " big yellow limousine " that comes to pick

him up at his doorstep every day! Not to mention the really big bonus of

mom not having to get out of her jammies until she's good and ready!

Karla in Texas

dismissing " our " kids early

" Upsndowns " <@grou ps.com

<mailto:% 40groups. com> >

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 7:50 AM

I know this has been brought up before. I can only find 1 thing on 's

law about it....

Nic got home early yesterday. The driver said the school dismissed his class

10 minutes early. I think this is unlawful, anyone have this happen to them?

Di

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be

condemned. Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.

Luke 6:37

[Guest guest]

yes- things sure do differ even from school to school

My daughter's sp ed preschool parents are not allowed to walk a child to class

or visit the class the first 30 days of school.  Last week, we were late because

of a long and upsetting morning day at the hospital for tests....they would not

even let me walk her to her room 20 feet away from the office.  I have been

allowed to even see her room.

  Just a few miles away in another district, parent can walk their child to the

preschool and parents are welcome as long as they sign in.

Dawn 

From: Loree5@... <Loree5@...>

Subject: Re: dismissing " our " kids early

eig6@..., christina7@..., blaise_25053@...,

, drf218@..., kspilious@...

Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 10:31 AM

In a message dated 9/11/2008 10:44:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eig6@...

writes:

I just did

it. I put her on the bus with her brother and neighborhood kids and it was

no big deal.

You see how different things are around the country.  Here (on Long Island) they

make a placement for your child on the SPED bus when you have your CSE meeting

(IEP).  I wouldn't have had the opportunity to just put Micah on the the bus I

would have to follow what is in his IEP.  It has worked to our advantage though

as he sits in the front seat by bus driver.  In fact I laughed out loud tha tyou

got to go ON the bus for three days.  I had to call my state assemblyperson (she

is a woman I know) in order to get on the bus to buckle him into his seatbelt

when he started school.  Policy is no parent allowed on bus AT ALL!  I raised

hell.  Micah was all of 20 pounds and wearing a size 18 month clothing when he

started school.  After my assemblywoman called the super of schools it just

" kinda happened " without any acknowledgement from anyone that I could get on the

bus and bucklue him in.  His aide did the return trip.  I had written a letter

telling them that I had told them I would sign any waiver they wanted to

absolve them from any liability from my actions or getting hurt on the bus, in

order to buckle him in.  I then told them that sionce they stillrefused to allow

me to buckle him in that I was putting them on notice that they would be liable

for any injury he incurred.  And that at 20 pounds of weight i the school bus

stopped short he was GONNA get hurt.  SIGH~~~the things we have to go through

 

Loree

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