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Fred,

Actually I used a protocol that went up and down between 10 and 18 Hz, so we did use ramping. I would always do that rather than use a single frequency to increase flexibility.

Pete

AVS

:I read in one of your previous posts about treating seniors that you often use audio/visual stimulation for 20 to 30 min. before the NF session, often at a 12 Hz frequency. Have you ever tried ramping through various frequencies (novel stimulation)as opposed to entraining one frequecy? I guess another way to do it would be to possibly ramp around in a particular band of activity, like 12 to 15 Hz or so. I'm very interested in how to integrate AVS with NF (being somewhat leary of the Roshi because of its Amiga platform), and I use to use it more than I do now. Tom Budzynski's article on brain brightening in the elderly re-kindled my interest. In a phone conversation with Tom, I believe he said he thought that ramping to create novel stimulation might be more effective. I curious about your experience in this regard.Fred

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Do you think that AVS might possibly be an application for very young clients, let's say 5 or 6 years old. This is an age that I find it very difficult to do NF with....difficult to sustain their motivation over the weeks of training. Have you ever tried to use AVS with children of this age?

Fred

AVS

:I read in one of your previous posts about treating seniors that you often use audio/visual stimulation for 20 to 30 min. before the NF session, often at a 12 Hz frequency. Have you ever tried ramping through various frequencies (novel stimulation)as opposed to entraining one frequecy? I guess another way to do it would be to possibly ramp around in a particular band of activity, like 12 to 15 Hz or so. I'm very interested in how to integrate AVS with NF (being somewhat leary of the Roshi because of its Amiga platform), and I use to use it more than I do now. Tom Budzynski's article on brain brightening in the elderly re-kindled my interest. In a phone conversation with Tom, I believe he said he thought that ramping to create novel stimulation might be more effective. I curious about your experience in this regard.Fred

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I'v seen mention of the Budzynski article frequently, but haven't been able to find it. Anybody got a reference? Thanks, Marged

AVS

:I read in one of your previous posts about treating seniors that you often use audio/visual stimulation for 20 to 30 min. before the NF session, often at a 12 Hz frequency. Have you ever tried ramping through various frequencies (novel stimulation)as opposed to entraining one frequecy? I guess another way to do it would be to possibly ramp around in a particular band of activity, like 12 to 15 Hz or so. I'm very interested in how to integrate AVS with NF (being somewhat leary of the Roshi because of its Amiga platform), and I use to use it more than I do now. Tom Budzynski's article on brain brightening in the elderly re-kindled my interest. In a phone conversation with Tom, I believe he said he thought that ramping to create novel stimulation might be more effective. I curious about your experience in this regard.Fred

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I've usually found that these are usually clients with Filtering problems, distractible, impulsive, labile, etc. When I've tried to use AVS with them, they cannot keep their eyes closed. You could try, but that always worried me, though the clients seemed to like it (like anything new).

In Atlanta, we kept these kids engaged by adding games like Domino Stacking, Buckingham Palace Guard, Tracing, Mirror and various breathing games to the session (while feedback was being given) to keep things interested. Usually, if you could get them through the first 15-20 sessions, to the point where training is having a fairly stable effect, continuation is not so much of a problem.

Pete

AVS

:I read in one of your previous posts about treating seniors that you often use audio/visual stimulation for 20 to 30 min. before the NF session, often at a 12 Hz frequency. Have you ever tried ramping through various frequencies (novel stimulation)as opposed to entraining one frequecy? I guess another way to do it would be to possibly ramp around in a particular band of activity, like 12 to 15 Hz or so. I'm very interested in how to integrate AVS with NF (being somewhat leary of the Roshi because of its Amiga platform), and I use to use it more than I do now. Tom Budzynski's article on brain brightening in the elderly re-kindled my interest. In a phone conversation with Tom, I believe he said he thought that ramping to create novel stimulation might be more effective. I curious about your experience in this regard.Fred

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Fred,

I have been using Roshi 2 standalone in conjunction with the

Brainmaster (no need for amiga!) for almost a year now and find it

to be a powerfull combination. It is possible to run the Roshi and

BMr off the same set of leads so you can train and monitor from the

same sites. I've developed a couple scripts for teh BMScope that

seem to create a nice interaction between the Roshi " disentrainment "

and training on the BMr. Grant Bright gave a couple presentations at

SNR this year on how he has intergrated the Roshi with Val Brown's

NeuroCare Pro, so there are some ideas out there about integrating

systems. If you would like to know more feel free to get in touch. .

At 2:16 PM +0000 9/25/02, fbramble1 wrote:

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>

>I read in one of your previous posts about treating seniors that you

>often use audio/visual stimulation for 20 to 30 min. before the NF

>session, often at a 12 Hz frequency. Have you ever tried ramping

>through various frequencies (novel stimulation)as opposed to

>entraining one frequecy? I guess another way to do it would be to

>possibly ramp around in a particular band of activity, like 12 to 15

>Hz or so. I'm very interested in how to integrate AVS with NF (being

>somewhat leary of the Roshi because of its Amiga platform), and I use

>to use it more than I do now. Tom Budzynski's article on brain

>brightening in the elderly re-kindled my interest. In a phone

>conversation with Tom, I believe he said he thought that ramping to

>create novel stimulation might be more effective. I curious about

>your experience in this regard.

>

>Fred

>

>

>

>

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Marged:

The article is:Reversing Age-Related Cognitive Decline: Use of Neurofeedback and Audio-Visual Stimulation by Budzynski, Ph.D., and Helen Kogan Budzynski, Ph.D., Seattle, Washington. It is found in the Fall, 2000 issue of Biofeedback Magazine (an AAPB publication), Vol. 28, No.3.

Fred

AVS

:I read in one of your previous posts about treating seniors that you often use audio/visual stimulation for 20 to 30 min. before the NF session, often at a 12 Hz frequency. Have you ever tried ramping through various frequencies (novel stimulation)as opposed to entraining one frequecy? I guess another way to do it would be to possibly ramp around in a particular band of activity, like 12 to 15 Hz or so. I'm very interested in how to integrate AVS with NF (being somewhat leary of the Roshi because of its Amiga platform), and I use to use it more than I do now. Tom Budzynski's article on brain brightening in the elderly re-kindled my interest. In a phone conversation with Tom, I believe he said he thought that ramping to create novel stimulation might be more effective. I curious about your experience in this regard.Fred

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:

I am curious about the Roshi 2 standalone unit. How much does it cost? I have heard that it cannot do all the things that the original Roshi does. Is this true? Do you know the differences between the two? I'm assuming the standalone unit will interface with the Multitrace (I have a multitrace and a neuropathways unit)....true? I'm curious about hearing more about your experience using the Roshi 2 standalone unit. Were you able to attend Grant Bright's presentation at SNR this year (I was unable to attend)? If you heard it, can you share anything about it? Thanks for any information you can provide.

Fred

Re: AVS

Fred,I have been using Roshi 2 standalone in conjunction with the Brainmaster (no need for amiga!) for almost a year now and find it to be a powerfull combination. It is possible to run the Roshi and BMr off the same set of leads so you can train and monitor from the same sites. I've developed a couple scripts for teh BMScope that seem to create a nice interaction between the Roshi "disentrainment" and training on the BMr. Grant Bright gave a couple presentations at SNR this year on how he has intergrated the Roshi with Val Brown's NeuroCare Pro, so there are some ideas out there about integrating systems. If you would like to know more feel free to get in touch. . At 2:16 PM +0000 9/25/02, fbramble1 wrote:>:>>I read in one of your previous posts about treating seniors that you>often use audio/visual stimulation for 20 to 30 min. before the NF>session, often at a 12 Hz frequency. Have you ever tried ramping>through various frequencies (novel stimulation)as opposed to>entraining one frequecy? I guess another way to do it would be to>possibly ramp around in a particular band of activity, like 12 to 15>Hz or so. I'm very interested in how to integrate AVS with NF (being>somewhat leary of the Roshi because of its Amiga platform), and I use>to use it more than I do now. Tom Budzynski's article on brain>brightening in the elderly re-kindled my interest. In a phone>conversation with Tom, I believe he said he thought that ramping to>create novel stimulation might be more effective. I curious about>your experience in this regard.>>Fred>>>>

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Debie

Sounds like you getting a handle on all the other things you need to do like the

sandostatin tx.

I was so much worse after AVS for WEEKS. ACTH really Jacked me up big time,

unfunctional, I saw flashing lights in a dark room for 3 days after AVS and had

to take valium for a week every night to sleep. What A mess.

This odd burning sensation is strange but I have read it to be related to

catacholmines being high.And when I was on HC the burning stuff left. I get to

go on CCB and ACE as soon as I get to the pharmacy today.

My shoulder didnt like AVS either it hurt the entire time AVS was being done i

figured my veins were tender and AVS was really disturbing my space. And it took

weeks for my groin cut to stop tingling it did feel like something crawling on

me or liquid. Well hope to hear from you soon on your result..

ita

during the AVS, my

> gastro touched me where it hurts and a pain shot up to my left shoulder. He

said

> it is more than likely my spleen. Maybe the CT will show something. I told him

it feels like something wet under my skin and I find myself trying to wipe

> it off. I don't think it must be anything serious or by now, I would be in

> worse shape than I am. I will be curious to see what the AVS results are of

my right adrenal (the

> one with the 1.2 cm nodule). I'll keep you posted.

>

> Debi

>

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If it was cortisol it means they were in the adrenal vein on the high side (right) but not on the left. but need to see numbers when you get them. Clarence Grimlowerbp2@... On Sep 15, 2009, at 8:33 PM, georgewbill wrote: I thought that high cortisol was Cushing's syndrome. > > Had the procedure yesterday. I'm a little swollen, but am home from NIH. > > Aldo was sent to Mayo for processing, however cortisol was done at NIH. It was normal on left side and through the roof on the right. We all know what that means. > > > > > > > Bindner > > Web Directory (links to my sites and blogs): > http://www.geocities.com/mikeybdc/index.html > http://mikeybdc.blogspot.com > > >

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What does that mean?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of

Bindner

Aldo was sent to Mayo for processing, however cortisol was

done at NIH. It was normal on left side and through the roof on the

right. We all know what that means.

Bindner

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It means that I probably have Conn's Syndrome rather than binary hyperplasia (that they will take out the right adrenal after I get a job with sick leave and accumulate enough so that I don't go broke in doing so). Final results are pending.

Bindner

Web Directory (links to my sites and blogs):

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From: Valarie <val@...>Subject: RE: AVShyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 11:26 AM

What does that mean?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldost eronism@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bindner

Aldo was sent to Mayo for processing, however cortisol was done at NIH. It was normal on left side and through the roof on the right. We all know what that means.

Bindner