Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Dr. Grim, I recently noticed recurrent little sharp pain in the head. They seem to be short duration of about a minute or less. There is no definite spot as sometimes it is in the are behind the left ear, sometimes in the opposite side on the right, sometimes on top portion. Another observation, when I seem to have diffuclty in bowel movement, I feel tightness around the nape area and an indescribable feeling in the head too. I have not really connected it to bowel trouble but it seems that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 How is the BP doing and exactly which meds and when are you taking? In a message dated 9/19/06 11:18:01 PM, bayabas76@... writes: Dr. Grim, I recently noticed recurrent little sharp pain in the head. They seem to be short duration of about a minute or less. There is no definite spot as sometimes it is in the are behind the left ear, sometimes in the opposite side on the right, sometimes on top portion. Another observation, when I seem to have difficulty in bowel movement, I feel tightness around the nape area and an indescribable feeling in the head too. I have not really connected it to bowel trouble but it seems that way. May your pressure be low! C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 BP is 140/90 and daily meds are Spiro 150mg and a CCB 6mg per day only. The pain in my mastodynia is lesser, but now itchyness in the nipples is noticed. What is the most likely scenario if and when Spiro is stopped? > > How is the BP doing and exactly which meds and when are you taking? > > > In a message dated 9/19/06 11:18:01 PM, bayabas76@... writes: > > > > > > Dr. Grim, > > > > I recently noticed recurrent little sharp pain in the head. They seem > > to be short duration of about a minute or less. There is no definite > > spot as sometimes it is in the are behind the left ear, sometimes in > > the opposite side on the right, sometimes on top portion. > > > > Another observation, when I seem to have difficulty in bowel movement, > > I feel tightness around the nape area and an indescribable feeling in > > the head too. I have not really connected it to bowel trouble but it > > seems that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May your pressure be low! > > C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. > Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure > and the Physiology and History of Survival During > Hard Times and Heart Disease today. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 In a message dated 9/21/06 8:27:17 PM, bayabas76@... writes: What is the most likely scenario if and when Spiro is stopped? Masto problems will go away, BP up and K down unless you DASH to the MAX May your pressure be low! C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt recipes and have minimized fatty meats. DAvid > > > In a message dated 9/21/06 8:27:17 PM, bayabas76@... writes: > > > > > > What is the most likely scenario if and when Spiro is stopped? > > > > Masto problems will go away, BP up and K down unless you DASH to the MAX > > > > May your pressure be low! > > C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. > Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure > and the Physiology and History of Survival During > Hard Times and Heart Disease today. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 There is a good deal more to it, I'm afraid, including enhanced potassium content. The DASH Diet has the most science behind it of any I've seen - and I looked. That's before you get to low Na. 's little paperback has the whole story, including on the NIH trials. Dave On Sep 23, 2006, at 11:26 AM, bayabas76 wrote: > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. > > DAvid > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 In a nutshell DASH diet is about a nutritional program that includes foods with high potassium, high magnesium, high calcium, low fat, low or no salt(1000-2000 mg/day depending on your situation), less red meats, no processed foods. More fish, green vegetables, fruit and lots of water.(I think I have covered it all). Hope you will be DASHING soon. On 9/24/06, Uncle Dave <riothamus20@...> wrote: There is a good deal more to it, I'm afraid, including enhancedpotassium content. The DASH Diet has the most science behind it of any I've seen - and I looked. That's before you get to low Na. 's little paperback has the whole story, including on the NIHtrials.DaveOn Sep 23, 2006, at 11:26 AM, bayabas76 wrote: > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt> recipes and have minimized fatty meats.>> DAvid> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I have learned about DASHing from one of our files here. I tried to order that book, but it never arrived. It would have been nice if there was some simple recipes to follow. My priority is limit salt intake such that now, and my taste has adjusted that I find an ordinary big Mac sooo salty. > > > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt > > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. > > > > DAvid > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I have to be careful about foods with lots of potassium intake as my K level is increasing with Spiro. > > > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt > > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. > > > > DAvid > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 > > > > > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt > > > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. > > > > > > DAvid > > > > > > You can get the DASH diet online at http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/public/heart/hbp/dash/ kim in MN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 :You should not be eating an ordinary big mac Also for those of you who have a tough time adjusting to lowering the sodium from your diet, you can add a little balsomic vinegar and a dash of cayane pepper to your food and you won't notice that the salt is missing. But as mentioned, after a while you get totally adjusted. Even my kids now refuse to eat something that has so much salt. Their taste buds have totally changed to only wanting unprocessed foods made fresh and lots of fruit and vegetable. They would not step inside a fast food place except for the occasional only bean burritos when they run out of choices. Happy DASHING Farah On 9/24/06, bayabas76 <bayabas76@...> wrote: I have learned about DASHing from one of our files here. I tried toorder that book, but it never arrived. It would have been niceif there was some simple recipes to follow.My priority is limit salt intake such that now, and my taste has adjusted that I find an ordinary big Mac sooo salty. > > > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt> > recipes and have minimized fatty meats.> >> > DAvid> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Just tried it once after more than 3 years without it. Yes, the taste buds can surely adjust. And I am even just working on a low salt diet since I have difficulty following the recipes in the dowloaded pdf file we have on DASH. Lately, I began to add pepper and little vinegar to my favorite fresh tomato salad with each meal. > > > > > > > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt > > > > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. > > > > > > > > DAvid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 In a message dated 9/25/06 8:24:07 PM, bayabas76@... writes: Just tried it once after more than 3 years without it. Yes, the taste buds can surely adjust. And I am even just working on a low salt diet since I have difficulty following the recipes in the dowloaded pdf file we have on DASH. Lately, I began to add pepper and little vinegar to my favorite fresh tomato salad with each meal. Good reason to get the book. May your pressure be low! C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I had a hard time doing low sodium at first because I tried to reduce the sodium in foods that were traditionally salty and the end result tasted terrible. Then I started trying some new recipes that were weren't trying to imitate something I had eaten regularly in the past and I've great luck. I also started baking my own bread using low sodium recipes. Here is one of my favorite low sodium recipes (and I never liked sweet potatoes before but I love them this way and they are a great source of potassium). Of course, the sugar isn't the best so I save this for special occassions: 4 Sweet Potatoes,Peeled And Sliced 2 lb lean Pork Roast or thick pork chops 1 c orange juice 1/2 c Brown Sugar 1/4 t Cayenne 1/4 t Black Pepper 1/4 t Garlic Powder 1/2 t Onion Powder Put the potatoes on the bottom of a slow cooker, put the pork on the sweet potatoes, mix the remaining ingredients together and poor over the top. Slow cook several hours until pork is fully cooked and sweet potatoes are tender. Farah Rahbar wrote: > : > You should not be eating an ordinary big mac > > Also for those of you who have a tough time adjusting to lowering the > sodium from your diet, you can add a little balsomic vinegar and a > dash of cayane pepper to your food and you won't notice that the salt > is missing. > But as mentioned, after a while you get totally adjusted. Even > my kids now refuse to eat something that has so much salt. Their taste > buds have totally changed to only wanting unprocessed foods made > fresh and lots of fruit and vegetable. They would not step inside a > fast food place except for the occasional only bean burritos when they > run out of choices. > > Happy DASHING > > Farah > > > On 9/24/06, *bayabas76* <bayabas76@... > <mailto:bayabas76@...>> wrote: > > I have learned about DASHing from one of our files here. I tried to > order that book, but it never arrived. It would have been nice > if there was some simple recipes to follow. > > My priority is limit salt intake such that now, and my taste has > adjusted that I find an ordinary big Mac sooo salty. > > > > >> >> > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low > salt >> > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. >> > >> > DAvid >> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Aside from simple low salt diet, I do at least 10 minutes on the inclined plane treadmill every day. I think diet and exercise makes a good combination. It is just the transient headaches that worries me. > > > In a message dated 9/25/06 8:24:07 PM, bayabas76@... writes: > > > > > > Just tried it once after more than 3 years without it. Yes, the taste > > buds can surely adjust. And I am even just working on a low salt diet > > since I have difficulty following the recipes in the dowloaded pdf > > file we have on DASH. > > > > Lately, I began to add pepper and little vinegar to my favorite fresh > > tomato salad with each meal. > > > > > > > > Good reason to get the book. > > > > May your pressure be low! > > C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. > Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure > and the Physiology and History of Survival During > Hard Times and Heart Disease today. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 Yes, the book is a cheap little paperback, and when you see the testing they did with the basic diet (before the hypertension trilas), it makes you wonder why the darn thing isn't in all the media daily. A science-based general diet! Recipes for low-Na HTN are thoughtful too. My taste buds adjusted so as to make junk food taste like a salt-lick. Yuck! I do see, however, that Mcs and 's Soups, other large producers, etc are starting to come out with low Na stuff. The quiet riot. Dave On Sep 25, 2006, at 11:53 PM, lowerbp2@... wrote: > > In a message dated 9/25/06 8:24:07 PM, bayabas76@... writes: > > > > Just tried it once after more than 3 years without it. Yes, the taste > buds can surely adjust. And I am even just working on a low salt diet > since I have difficulty following the recipes in the dowloaded pdf > file we have on DASH. > > Lately, I began to add pepper and little vinegar to my favorite fresh > tomato salad with each meal. > > > > > Good reason to get the book. > > > > May your pressure be low! > > C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. > Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure > and the Physiology and History of Survival During > Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Dave, Are you saying that you can have up to 2000 mg of salt on the DASH diet?? I certainly don't call that low salt. Fran > > > > > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt > > > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. > > > > > > DAvid > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Not only have I not heard of it in the news, but NO doctor that I went to (including 6 endos and 2 cardios) has ever mentioned the DASH diet or told me to lower my salt intake. Fran > > > > > In a message dated 9/25/06 8:24:07 PM, bayabas76@... writes: > > > > > > > > Just tried it once after more than 3 years without it. Yes, the taste > > buds can surely adjust. And I am even just working on a low salt diet > > since I have difficulty following the recipes in the dowloaded pdf > > file we have on DASH. > > > > Lately, I began to add pepper and little vinegar to my favorite fresh > > tomato salad with each meal. > > > > > > > > > > Good reason to get the book. > > > > > > > > May your pressure be low! > > > > C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. > > Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure > > and the Physiology and History of Survival During > > Hard Times and Heart Disease today. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I'll go you one more - the director of ACF's endocrinology clinic, hen asked about lowering dietary sodium for lowering BP (in anyone, but by a PA patient in particular), said " I don't know, do you want me to write you a referral to the dietician? " People go to UCSF from all over for PA and related problems. He actually had never seen 's book, nor had any awareness of the NIH trials. I left him with a copy. My best guess is that as soon as you mention the word " diet, " political walls go up. Dave On Sep 30, 2006, at 6:43 PM, pagirl1946 wrote: > Not only have I not heard of it in the news, but NO doctor that I > went to (including 6 endos and 2 cardios) has ever mentioned the DASH > diet or told me to lower my salt intake. > > Fran > > > > > > Yes, the book is a cheap little paperback, and when you see the > testing > > they did with the basic diet (before the hypertension trilas), it > makes > > you wonder why the darn thing isn't in all the media daily. A > > science-based general diet! Recipes for low-Na HTN are thoughtful > > too. > > > > My taste buds adjusted so as to make junk food taste like a salt- > lick. > > Yuck! I do see, however, that Mcs and 's Soups, > other > > large producers, etc are starting to come out with low Na stuff. > The > > quiet riot. > > > > Dave > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 When I went to Mayo clinic I was surprised to see so many sample booklets of the DASH diet everywhere at the waiting areas for the patients to pick up for free. Even my endo there asked me about my diet and I told him I was Dashing. He was quite happy about it. My mom was hospitalized here at Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek few months ago and I was playing around with various channels on tv and noticed one of the local hospital channels was all about DASH diet and how to prepare the food. So although many of the doctors and hospitals have chosen to keep their heads in the sand, there are others that are actually making a difference for their patients. UCSF and Stanford Hospitals have a long way to go as they are still living in the stone age. Farah On 10/1/06, Uncle Dave <riothamus20@...> wrote: I'll go you one more - the director of ACF's endocrinology clinic, henasked about lowering dietary sodium for lowering BP (in anyone, but by a PA patient in particular), said " I don't know, do you want me towrite you a referral to the dietician? " People go to UCSF from allover for PA and related problems.He actually had never seen 's book, nor had any awareness of the NIH trials. I left him with a copy.My best guess is that as soon as you mention the word " diet, " politicalwalls go up.DaveOn Sep 30, 2006, at 6:43 PM, pagirl1946 wrote:> Not only have I not heard of it in the news, but NO doctor that I > went to (including 6 endos and 2 cardios) has ever mentioned the DASH> diet or told me to lower my salt intake.>> Fran>> > >> > Yes, the book is a cheap little paperback, and when you see the> testing> > they did with the basic diet (before the hypertension trilas), it > makes> > you wonder why the darn thing isn't in all the media daily. A> > science-based general diet! Recipes for low-Na HTN are thoughtful> > too.> >> > My taste buds adjusted so as to make junk food taste like a salt- > lick.> > Yuck! I do see, however, that Mcs and 's Soups,> other> > large producers, etc are starting to come out with low Na stuff.> The> > quiet riot. > >> > Dave> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Muir gets top ratings by the raters. . .interesting. Thanks for the tip. Dave On Oct 1, 2006, at 12:52 AM, Farah Rahbar wrote: > When I went to Mayo clinic I was surprised to see so many sample > booklets of the DASH diet everywhere at the waiting areas for the > patients to pick up for free. Even my endo there asked me about my > diet and I told him I was Dashing. He was quite happy about it. > My mom was hospitalized here at Muir Medical Center in Walnut > Creek few months ago and I was playing around with various channels on > tv and noticed one of the local hospital channels was all about DASH > diet and how to prepare the food. So although many of the doctors and > hospitals have chosen to keep their heads in the sand, there are > others that are actually making a difference for their patients. > UCSF and Stanford Hospitals have a long way to go as they are still > living in the stone age. > Farah >  > On 10/1/06, Uncle Dave <riothamus20@...> wrote: I'll go you one > more - the director of ACF's endocrinology clinic, hen >> asked about lowering dietary sodium for lowering BP (in anyone, but by >> a PA patient in particular), said " I don't know, do you want me to >> write you a referral to the dietician? "   People go to UCSF from all >> over for PA and related problems. >> >> He actually had never seen 's book, nor had any awareness of the >> NIH trials.  I left him with a copy. >> >> My best guess is that as soon as you mention the word " diet, " >> political >> walls go up. >> >> Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 In a message dated 9/24/06 10:48:26 AM, bayabas76@... writes: > > What is the basic DASHing procedure? I have my wife prepare low salt > > recipes and have minimized fatty meats. The basic procedure is to get the book and read it like your life depended on it. May your pressure be low! C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 In a message dated 9/24/06 10:44:18 AM, bayabas76@... writes: I have learned about DASHing from one of our files here. I tried to order that book, but it never arrived. It would have been nice if there was some simple recipes to follow. My priority is limit salt intake such that now, and my taste has adjusted that I find an ordinary big Mac sooo salty. Go to your local book store ahd have them order it. It has tons of recipes. May your pressure be low! C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 > Go to your local book store ahd have them order it. It has tons of recipes. > which i did with our local bookstore but the book did not materialize. i made a second order, with the same results. anyhow, ill find some way to get a copy. thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 In a message dated 10/3/06 2:04:22 AM, bayabas76@... writes: which i did with our local bookstore but the book did not materialize. i made a second order, with the same results. Go to another bookstore. May your pressure be low! C.E. Grim, B.S., M.S., M.D. Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure and the Physiology and History of Survival During Hard Times and Heart Disease today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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